EMC Centera for HSM?
Is anyone is using an EMC Centera device as a target for HSM ML1 or ML2 data. The vendor claims some of you are, if so, I would like to hear from you. Did you do anything special, does it perform okay, or other opinions you can to share. I'll stress 'opinions' to alleviate your concerns that I am not looking to sell you something else, I will not hold our possible future experience up against yours and feel you led us astray. We just have this nagging concern based on past claims from some vendors that they have no one else doing the solution they want to sell us when they are unable to provide a real reference. So, anyone doing this? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EMC Centera for HSM?
Kenneth E Tomiak pisze: Is anyone is using an EMC Centera device as a target for HSM ML1 or ML2 data. The vendor claims some of you are, if so, I would like to hear from you. Did you do anything special, does it perform okay, or other opinions you can to share. I'll stress 'opinions' to alleviate your concerns that I am not looking to sell you something else, I will not hold our possible future experience up against yours and feel you led us astray. We just have this nagging concern based on past claims from some vendors that they have no one else doing the solution they want to sell us when they are unable to provide a real reference. So, anyone doing this? At least two companies in Poland have it, one of them is using it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EMC Centera for HSM?
Two have a Centerra? One is using it? Does that mean neither are using it for HSM? Would like to get in touch with someone who is doing it? So far just getting responses from people who know someone who might be doing it. Broker the person who is and I will steer them to someone who wants to. I'm not really interested in being in the middle, nor talking to someone who wants to sell me something (nor does the person I am trying to help want to be sold some other solution). On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:12:26 +0100, R.S. wrote: >Kenneth E Tomiak pisze: >> Is anyone is using an EMC Centera device as a target for HSM ML1 or ML2 >> data. The vendor claims some of you are, if so, I would like to hear from you. >> Did you do anything special, does it perform okay, or other opinions you can >> to share. > >At least two companies in Poland have it, one of them is using it. > > >-- >Radoslaw Skorupka >Lodz, Poland > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EMC Centera for HSM?
From what I know of the Centera, I doubt if HSM has any code that talks to the "native" Centera interface (via EMC's SDK). So, it would seem that a hardware adapter like the BusTek MDL would be needed to make the Centera look like an array of tape devices and volumes, which would then be used just like normal tape by HSM. I would think that EMC could provide some references. If not, what about BusTech? At 07:29 PM 3/9/2009, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: >Two have a Centerra? One is using it? Does that mean neither are using it for >HSM? Would like to get in touch with someone who is doing it? So far just >getting responses from people who know someone who might be doing it. > >Broker the person who is and I will steer them to someone who wants to. I'm >not really interested in being in the middle, nor talking to someone who wants >to sell me something (nor does the person I am trying to help want to be sold >some other solution). [...snip...] == Art Celestini Celestini Development Services Phone: 201-670-1674Wyckoff, NJ = http://celestini.com = Mail sent to the "From" address used in this post will be rejected by our server. Please send off- list email to: ibmmaincelestinicom. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
AW: EMC Centera for HSM?
In this case the Centera is connected via OSA-Adapter. There is no need for any adapter (emulator) like Bus-Tech MAS.The Centera Mainframe HSM Migrator operates within the existing DFSMShsm address space. It uses three HSM exits (ARCMDEXT, ARCPEXT, ARCINEXT). Dietmar Ley -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Im Auftrag von Art Celestini Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 02:05 An: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Betreff: Re: EMC Centera for HSM? From what I know of the Centera, I doubt if HSM has any code that talks to the "native" Centera interface (via EMC's SDK). So, it would seem that a hardware adapter like the BusTek MDL would be needed to make the Centera look like an array of tape devices and volumes, which would then be used just like normal tape by HSM. I would think that EMC could provide some references. If not, what about BusTech? At 07:29 PM 3/9/2009, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: >Two have a Centerra? One is using it? Does that mean neither are using it for >HSM? Would like to get in touch with someone who is doing it? So far just >getting responses from people who know someone who might be doing it. > >Broker the person who is and I will steer them to someone who wants to. I'm >not really interested in being in the middle, nor talking to someone who wants >to sell me something (nor does the person I am trying to help want to be sold >some other solution). [...snip...] == Art Celestini Celestini Development Services Phone: 201-670-1674Wyckoff, NJ = http://celestini.com = Mail sent to the "From" address used in this post will be rejected by our server. Please send off- list email to: ibmmaincelestinicom. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Thanks for what looks like a real response to my post. Offline I was contacted by opentechsystems who wants to sell a solution we are not looking to buy and offered they have hundreds of customers but came up with none actually doing what I asked. A suggestion EMC should provide a reference - duh! If we had a reference from them then I would not be asking the community at large. And even if EMC had a reference I would rather find someone on our own as they maybe more willing to speak openly. Had one person check within his organization and found they don't. Had one real response of someone doing it - thanks for that! On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:26:00 +0100, Dietmar Ley wrote: >In this case the Centera is connected via OSA-Adapter. There is no need for >any adapter (emulator) like Bus-Tech MAS.The Centera Mainframe HSM Migrator >operates within the existing DFSMShsm address space. It uses three HSM exits >(ARCMDEXT, ARCPEXT, ARCINEXT). > >Dietmar Ley > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
