Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-11-11 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Amazing too, that you chose to type the file name when CUT&PASTE would 
have gotten you on the right path even quicker.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:04:04 -0500, Ron Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>running 1.7 >>> amazing when you call it what it suppose to be I had
>fpts.rc  >> DAH
>works as advertized
>

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-31 Thread Ron Wells
started reading and see that for a Anonymous user a chroot is issued if 
setting up for this type of user..
any means of doing the same for a normal user ?? >> 

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-31 Thread Ron Wells
Thanks for everyone's help.slowly getting this stuff

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
running 1.7 >>> amazing when you call it what it suppose to be I had 
fpts.rc  >> DAH
works as advertized

now...question ...

most commands can be entered here for setup...? >> is there a 
restriction
is there a better way to set a profile for a user no matter what he gets 
into..ftp/telnet..?

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Aaron Walker
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:37:11 -0500, McKown, John 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wells
>>
>> ok---have following in ftps.rc
>>
>> cd /u/agttxfr/catalog/n020
>>
>> >> did not work ...
>>
>> tried ftpd.rc as well ..
>
>What version of z/OS are you running? I ask because it worked for 
me on
>z/OS 1.8. My id on z/OS is TSH009. I create an MVS file called
>'TSH009.FTPS.RC' containing the single line:
>
>cd 'TSH001'
>
>when I logged into the z/OS ftp server from my desktop, and did 
a "dir",
>I saw the TSH001 MVS datasets. I then deleted that file and created 
the
>file "ftps.rc" in my $HOME (/home1000/TSH009) directory in UNIX. It
>contained the single line:
>
>cd /home1000/TSH009
>
>I logged into the z/OS ftp server from my desktop again and ended 
up in
>the /home1000/TSH009 directory, just as advertised.
>
>In the words of Vinnie Barbarino: "I'm so confused!"
>
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I just did it on my zOS 1.7 system with the hfs file.  Works great.

User (some.host.name:(none)): userx
331 Send password please.
Password:
230-Processing FTPS.RC configuration file - /u/userx/ftps.rc
230-HFS directory /etc/WebSphere is the current working directory
230 USERX is logged on.  Working directory is "/etc/WebSphere".
ftp>

That was from a DOS prompt (or whatever it's called now).  Worked 
fine with FileZilla too.
Did you get this kind of output, suggesting that it was running through 
the config file?  And, if you are expecting it to keep the user at that 
directory (can't change directory, etc.) then this won't do it.  You could 
try to do it with permissions, but that's a bear.  It's much easier with 
the FTP exit.

Aaron

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> ok---have following in ftps.rc
> 
> cd /u/agttxfr/catalog/n020
> 
> >> did not work ...
> 
> tried ftpd.rc as well ..
> 

I just tried one more thing, which raises a question. Does the directory
/u/agttxfr/catalog/n020 already exist? If so, does the user have access
to it? I ask, because I changed the "cd" in my last test to be:

cd /home1000/TSH009x

where /home1000/TSH009x does not exist. I got messages:

230-CWD command failed : EDC5129I No such file or directory.
(errno2=0x05190050)
230 TSH009 is logged on. Working directory is "TSH009."

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Please capture session output from FTP client session and show us the error
message that goes with that CD command


Regards,
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ok---have following in ftps.rc

cd /u/agttxfr/catalog/n020

>> did not work ...

tried ftpd.rc as well ..

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> ok---have following in ftps.rc
> 
> cd /u/agttxfr/catalog/n020
> 
> >> did not work ...
> 
> tried ftpd.rc as well ..

What version of z/OS are you running? I ask because it worked for me on
z/OS 1.8. My id on z/OS is TSH009. I create an MVS file called
'TSH009.FTPS.RC' containing the single line:

cd 'TSH001'

when I logged into the z/OS ftp server from my desktop, and did a "dir",
I saw the TSH001 MVS datasets. I then deleted that file and created the
file "ftps.rc" in my $HOME (/home1000/TSH009) directory in UNIX. It
contained the single line:

cd /home1000/TSH009

I logged into the z/OS ftp server from my desktop again and ended up in
the /home1000/TSH009 directory, just as advertised.

In the words of Vinnie Barbarino: "I'm so confused!"

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
ok---have following in ftps.rc

cd /u/agttxfr/catalog/n020

>> did not work ...

tried ftpd.rc as well ..

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Steve Comstock

Ulrich Krueger wrote:

CD 'u/agttxfr/catalog'



Remove the quotes around the path and try again ...


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Well, yes, and enter the command in lower case.


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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ulrich Krueger
> CD 'u/agttxfr/catalog'

Remove the quotes around the path and try again ...


Regards,
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ok---create ftps.rc
put in following.don't laugh if wrongjust snicker...

CD 'u/agttxfr/catalog' 

did not setup directory path

dir / >> shows root
dir \ >> shows home directory>>setup in racf
ls -a >> shows same as above

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> ok---create ftps.rc
> put in following.don't laugh if wrongjust snicker...
> 
> CD 'u/agttxfr/catalog' 
> 
> did not setup directory path
> 
> dir / >> shows root
> dir \ >> shows home directory>>setup in racf
> ls -a >> shows same as above
> 

Is that EXACTLY what you entered? If so, then what you really need is:

cd /u/agttxfr/catalog

exactly that. By putting the operand to the "cd" command in quotes, you
said "This is an MVS dataset name". Of course there is not dataset name
called 'U/AGTTXFR/CATALOG' because that is not valid. The MVS ftp server
switched between MVS and HFS by looking at the first character of the
operand. If the first character is a ', then the ftp server switches to
MVS datasets. If the first character is a /, then the ftp server
switches to HFS files. If it is neither, then the ftp server stays in
either MVS or HFS mode and just changes the MVS qualifier level, or
subdirectory.

dir /

will always show the root directory.

dir

with no operand shows the current directory if in HFS mode, or the
datasets catalog to the current MVS qualifer level if in MVS mode. In my
test

dir \

showed the same as the plain "dir" command. "ls" and "dir" are basically
synonyms in the ftp server world.

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
ok---create ftps.rc
put in following.don't laugh if wrongjust snicker...

CD 'u/agttxfr/catalog' 

did not setup directory path

dir / >> shows root
dir \ >> shows home directory>>setup in racf
ls -a >> shows same as above

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Ron,
The mainframe's FTP task handles both standard MVS datasets and USS files. 
Please try that $HOME/ftps.rc file and let us know how it works for you.


Regards,
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Sounds like that will work...dummy question...
does it make any difference since I run FTPD .. statrted task...or is this 
only if I have FTP under uss only?

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Fw: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
Sounds like that will work...dummy question...
does it make any difference since I run FTPD .. statrted task...or is this 
only if I have FTP under uss only?
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Ron,
If you crack open the CS IP Users Guide, you will see the description of 
the
FTPS.RC file.
You don't need to specify TSO access for the user. You just need to create 
a
"userID.FTPS.RC" file for the user.
If you can't or don't want to do that, all is not lost, however ...
The manual says that an FTPS.RC file can also be specified in the user's
HOME directory, "$HOME/ftps.rc"
That means, if your user's RACF OMVS specification says: Home directory is
/application/userID, then create a file /application/userID/ftps.rc and 
put
the required "CD /target/directory" in there.
Unless I totally am not getting the picture, doesn't that do it?


Regards,
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User not setup for tso >>no>> id/files/cat. entry for tso access.only uss 
access with HOME dir setup in RACF..
This is the only way??




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Ron,
What some of the folks on this list have been trying to say is:
Have you tried using a "userID.FTPS.RC" dataset on the mainframe? 
You can put CD (or CWD) and SITE commands into this file.
When FTP-client "userID" connects to the mainframe's FTP server, contents 
of
this file are executed. If there's a command, e.g. "CD /application/xyz" 
in
the file, then that's going to be the user's default directory.
Doesn't that solve your problem?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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So there is no way to setup a user... using .profile or profile in a 
directory I setup as there Home Dir..
to alter what is displayed as Root for that user??

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Ron,
If you crack open the CS IP Users Guide, you will see the description of the
FTPS.RC file.
You don't need to specify TSO access for the user. You just need to create a
"userID.FTPS.RC" file for the user.
If you can't or don't want to do that, all is not lost, however ...
The manual says that an FTPS.RC file can also be specified in the user's
HOME directory, "$HOME/ftps.rc"
That means, if your user's RACF OMVS specification says: Home directory is
/application/userID, then create a file /application/userID/ftps.rc and put
the required "CD /target/directory" in there.
Unless I totally am not getting the picture, doesn't that do it?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger


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User not setup for tso >>no>> id/files/cat. entry for tso access.only uss 
access with HOME dir setup in RACF..
This is the only way??




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Ron,
What some of the folks on this list have been trying to say is:
Have you tried using a "userID.FTPS.RC" dataset on the mainframe? 
You can put CD (or CWD) and SITE commands into this file.
When FTP-client "userID" connects to the mainframe's FTP server, contents 
of
this file are executed. If there's a command, e.g. "CD /application/xyz" 
in
the file, then that's going to be the user's default directory.
Doesn't that solve your problem?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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So there is no way to setup a user... using .profile or profile in a 
directory I setup as there Home Dir..
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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
ok---will give it a shot...thanks...

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> 
> User not setup for tso >>no>> id/files/cat. entry for tso 
> access.only uss 
> access with HOME dir setup in RACF..
> This is the only way??
> 

YES. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY. 

The user must have a RACF id, even if they don't have a TSO segment. So,
the dataset to create is:

racfid.FTPS.RC



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Fw: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
User not setup for tso >>no>> id/files/cat. entry for tso access.only uss 
access with HOME dir setup in RACF..
This is the only way??




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Ron,
What some of the folks on this list have been trying to say is:
Have you tried using a "userID.FTPS.RC" dataset on the mainframe? 
You can put CD (or CWD) and SITE commands into this file.
When FTP-client "userID" connects to the mainframe's FTP server, contents 
of
this file are executed. If there's a command, e.g. "CD /application/xyz" 
in
the file, then that's going to be the user's default directory.
Doesn't that solve your problem?


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So there is no way to setup a user... using .profile or profile in a 
directory I setup as there Home Dir..
to alter what is displayed as Root for that user??

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Ron,
What some of the folks on this list have been trying to say is:
Have you tried using a "userID.FTPS.RC" dataset on the mainframe? 
You can put CD (or CWD) and SITE commands into this file.
When FTP-client "userID" connects to the mainframe's FTP server, contents of
this file are executed. If there's a command, e.g. "CD /application/xyz" in
the file, then that's going to be the user's default directory.
Doesn't that solve your problem?


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-30 Thread Ron Wells
So there is no way to setup a user... using .profile or profile in a 
directory I setup as there Home Dir..
to alter what is displayed as Root for that user??

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread Ron Wells
John..

Guess I'm missing something then...

I thought there was a way to set the home directory(which we do in RACF) 
but when you issue a slash '/' the home directory set(in RACF) would show 
up/display

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> 
> John..
> 
> If my HOME directory is /u/agfttxfr/catalog/n020
> and I have a ' .profile' setup under the userid directory and 
> I have the 
> following...should it not get what I need??
> 
> PATH=/u/agttxfr/catalog 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME: 
> export PATH 

NO. 

>From what I have read, you can only do as I said in the previous emails,
as documented in the URLs supplied. That's just the way that it is. The
~/.profile is only read by a "login shell". It is not read by the ftp
server. You're ftp client session does not have any access to the user's
"environment variables" which might be set up for a UNIX shell
environment.

I think that I may have missed something along the line. Of what use is
the PATH environment variable for an ftp client connection? That is
simply the UNIX equivalent to a STEPLIB or JOBLIB, i.e. where executable
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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread Ron Wells
John..

If my HOME directory is /u/agfttxfr/catalog/n020
and I have a ' .profile' setup under the userid directory and I have the 
following...should it not get what I need??

PATH=/u/agttxfr/catalog 
PATH=$PATH:$HOME: 
export PATH 

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> seen email on ftps.rc...?? FTPD is running as started task on the 
> system...not under uss..all my config files are in one 
> PDS...sys1.tcpparms 
> 

The FTPS.RC can reside in either a sequential MVS data or a UNIX file.

.FTPS.RC
.FTPS.RC
$HOME/ftps.rc

Is the order of search. But, no, I don't see a way to put it in
SYS1.TCPPARMS. The only things that can be in it are CWD (or CD)
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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread Ron Wells
seen email on ftps.rc...?? FTPD is running as started task on the 
system...not under uss..all my config files are in one PDS...sys1.tcpparms 

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> 
> STARTDIRECTORY works just fine...problem is users that 
> normally work with 
> MVS datasets/files..PDS's..now have to be specific of there 
> names they 
> enter..
> Example...WS-FTP client..If default was MVS and all I enter 
> is HLQ all 
> datasets..PDS's..display..I can select the dataset(MVS) if a 
> PDS and then 
> the members will list..
> Can not do that if default of STARTDIRECTORY is HFS...I have 
> to enter the 
> fully Quilified name of the dataset before I get the member list..
> 
> SOSTARTDIRECTORY works but defaulting to HFS for all will mess up 
> others..
> Is there possibly a override by user somewhere I'm missing??

Did you see the email about the FTPS.RC file?

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b370/2.3.
7.1

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b970/4.3.
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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-29 Thread Ron Wells
STARTDIRECTORY works just fine...problem is users that normally work with 
MVS datasets/files..PDS's..now have to be specific of there names they 
enter..
Example...WS-FTP client..If default was MVS and all I enter is HLQ all 
datasets..PDS's..display..I can select the dataset(MVS) if a PDS and then 
the members will list..
Can not do that if default of STARTDIRECTORY is HFS...I have to enter the 
fully Quilified name of the dataset before I get the member list..

SOSTARTDIRECTORY works but defaulting to HFS for all will mess up 
others..
Is there possibly a override by user somewhere I'm missing??

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:13:53 -0500, Ron Wells wrote:
>
>2.)Is there a means to make responses back to the CLIENT(PC)be in Lower case
>instead of Uppercase?
>
Why?  This really shouldn't matter unless you're attempting some
sort of automated operation, in which case be aware that the
message texts are not guaranteed; only the numeric codes.

If your concern is merely esthetic, I'll add an esthetic whine of
my own: Is there a means to make the user input commands be echoed
on the same line as the prompt instead of on the following line?

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:02:50 -0500, Aaron Walker wrote:
>
>If you want to change directory to a z/OS Unix location, remove the tick
>marks:
>
>cd /some/directory/
>
Apparently not generally so, as for example with a Solaris
client and a z/OS server:

ftp> put |date ./foo.bar
200 Port request OK.
501 Invalid data set name "./foo.bar". Use MVS Dsname conventions.

Far more annoying is that the "lcd" command doesn't really
change your local directory as chdir() would:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:132$ cd /tmp 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:133$ ftp localhost
220-FTPD1 IBM FTP CS V1R7 at MVS, 21:13:31 on 2007-10-26.

Command:
lcd /etc
HFS directory /etc is the current working directory.

Command:
! pwd
/u/user

... so I can't do an LCD then a shell escape to list the
contents of the directory I changed to as I could on a
normal UNIX system.

Command:
quit
>>> QUIT 
221 Quit command received. Goodbye.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:134$ pwd
/SYSTEM/tmp

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Aaron Walker
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:29:43 -0500, Ron Wells 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Michael
>
>not dos I gather is the problem...it is somewhere in setup for m/f
>user...home directory and path when they log in ..
>


The z/OS Unix home directory is set in the RACF OMVS segment HOME 
entry for that user.  That will be the same location that they end up if 
they telnet/ssh in to the system.

In the config file referenced by the SYSFTPD card in your FTP proc, you 
will have a STARTDIRECTORY entry which either set to MVS (for a MVS-
dataset home for the user) or HFS (for a z/OS Unix home for the user).  

On a z/OS system, whether you are client or server, you change 
directory to MVS datasets by surrounding your destination in tick 
marks:

cd 'MY.MVS.DATASET'

or

cd 'MY.MVS.PDS'

If you want to change directory to a z/OS Unix location, remove the tick 
marks:

cd /some/directory/

Aaron

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> Ron,
> 
> "dir /" will ALWAYS show system root filesystem; that's a 
> unix standard. There are several ftp clients - even  for free 
> - that do allows you to setup local and remote homes and run 
> commands after startup. Another way is to use -s:file flag 
> with windows command line ftp. The downside of this approach 
> is that first 2 lines of the file must be the userid and password.  
> 
> Walter Trovijo Jr.

Some ftp servers (in particular vsfptd) do a chroot() to change the
client process's "root" to be the user's home subdirectory. In this
case, "/" is not the global root, but is the base of the chroot()'ed
subdirectory.

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread wtrovijo
Ron,

"dir /" will ALWAYS show system root filesystem; that's a unix standard. There 
are several ftp clients - even  for free - that do allows you to setup local 
and remote homes and run commands after startup. Another way is to use -s:file 
flag with windows command line ftp. The downside of this approach is that first 
2 lines of the file must be the userid and password.  

Walter Trovijo Jr.

> Michael
> 
> Is there not a way to have that PATH set when they login??
> so if they do a dir / it will show up as what is equal to there home dir 
> specified?? 
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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Ron Wells
Michael

not dos I gather is the problem...it is somewhere in setup for m/f 
user...home directory and path when they log in ..

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Ron Wells
Michael

Is there not a way to have that PATH set when they login??
so if they do a dir / it will show up as what is equal to there home dir 
specified?? 

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Michael J Flores
Ron,
Here's a link for a list of DOS commands

http://www.michael-thomas.com/tech/ftpinfo/dosftpnotes.htm


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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Michael J Flores
To change your directory use LCD  whatever path you want
this identifies your Local Directory

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Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)

2007-10-26 Thread Ron Wells
1.)Is there a command to alter the STARTDIRECTORY(FTPparms) when a user 
log's in?
I have been using MVS and usr wants HFS..But can not seem to get back my 
MVS setting when I login..

2.)Is there a means to make responses back to the CLIENT(PC)be in Lower 
case
instead of Uppercase?

3.)Home Directory is set when logged in..but..when issuing a PUT(example)
I still have to specify full path names on the command or it assumes "/" 
??
Maybe another means to setup??

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