Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-16 Thread Chris Mason

Wayne

How time flies! It seems only yesterday I was reflecting on the novelty of 
actually having the TN3270 server function running as an "external client" 
as is the relationship of all the other server - and indeed *real* client - 
functions associated with TCP/IP for MVS - as I first knew it - to the main 
address space. Actually it seems only the day before yesterday I was 
wrestling with this novel networking software, its peculiar ways and its 
cavalier approach to terminology when the same component was sometimes a 
"server" and sometimes a "client", whether "internal" or "external".


Chris Mason

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Chris,
All true, except, "encouragement" should be replaced by "long term
requirement" as z/OS 1.8 is the last version of CS that supports the
TN3270 running as a subtask of the TCPIP stack.  The sooner you get to
running the TN3270 in a separate address space, the sooner you eliminate
a migration task.
Wayne Driscoll
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JME Software LLC
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Tom

The encouragement today is to split the "internal client", namely the
TN3270 server function, from the main CS IP address space and run it in
its own address space. Thus "recycling" the TN3270 server is not
necessarily going to involve "recycling" the whole of CS IP. Perhaps the
need sometimes to "recycle" the TN3270 server is one of the reasons why
the split is encouraged.

Chris Mason 


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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-16 Thread Alan Scott
Either way, Subtask of TCPIP or seperate address space, doesn't matter. To 
reload the SSL cert for TN3270 all secureports must be stopped. Can be done 
with OBEYFILE commands, but will disrupt all secure TN3270 connections.

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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-16 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Chris,
All true, except, "encouragement" should be replaced by "long term
requirement" as z/OS 1.8 is the last version of CS that supports the
TN3270 running as a subtask of the TCPIP stack.  The sooner you get to
running the TN3270 in a separate address space, the sooner you eliminate
a migration task.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer 
JME Software LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (630) 663-0719
Mobile: (630) 247-1632  

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Tom

The encouragement today is to split the "internal client", namely the
TN3270 server function, from the main CS IP address space and run it in
its own address space. Thus "recycling" the TN3270 server is not
necessarily going to involve "recycling" the whole of CS IP. Perhaps the
need sometimes to "recycle" the TN3270 server is one of the reasons why
the split is encouraged.

Chris Mason

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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Chris Mason

Tom

The encouragement today is to split the "internal client", namely the TN3270 
server function, from the main CS IP address space and run it in its own 
address space. Thus "recycling" the TN3270 server is not necessarily going 
to involve "recycling" the whole of CS IP. Perhaps the need sometimes to 
"recycle" the TN3270 server is one of the reasons why the split is 
encouraged.


Chris Mason

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...
Make no mistake, varying the port offline will kill existing sessions, but 
it is less

disruptive than recycling all of TCP/IP.

Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Conley
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:37:49 -0400, Matt Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal
>certificate.  Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a
>connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is
>updated?  Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is
>started, so that some action is necessary to reload  it?  And if it has
>to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it?  I assume
>restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the
>phones ring.

Matt,

First things first.  Did you update RACF or gskkyman with the new certificate?  
Make no mistake, varying the port offline will kill existing sessions, but it 
is less 
disruptive than recycling all of TCP/IP.

Regards,
Tom Conley 

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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Matt Simpson
In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Longnecker, Dennis) wrote:

> TO load this certificate without recycling.
> 
> 1)Take the port offline:
> V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001
> 
> 2)Now activate it: 


Thanks.  Does this disrupt existing sessions?  Or does it just prevent 
new connections for the brief time that the port is being restarted?
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Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Here are my notes to install a new certificate (port 23001 is my SSL
port).

TO load this certificate without recycling.

1)  Take the port offline:
V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001

2)  Now activate it: 
v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS1.TCPPARMS($$dennis)  
v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS1.TCPPARMS($$dennit) for Test LPAR   

Where the obeyfile member has the necessary begin VTAM and TELNETPARMS
section in it.

If you need more detailed examples, send me a note.

Dennis

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Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal 
certificate.  Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a 
connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is 
updated?  Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is 
started, so that some action is necessary to reload  it?  And if it has 
to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it?  I assume 
restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the 
phones ring.
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219 McVey Hall  -- (859) 257-2900 x300
University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506
http://jms.cc.uky.edu/  

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How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Matt Simpson
Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal 
certificate.  Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a 
connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is 
updated?  Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is 
started, so that some action is necessary to reload  it?  And if it has 
to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it?  I assume 
restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the 
phones ring.
-- 
Matt Simpson --  z/OS Support
219 McVey Hall  -- (859) 257-2900 x300
University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506
http://jms.cc.uky.edu/  

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