Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

[Jerry Whitteridge]

We are trying to see if that will work but currently our FTP server is coded to 
have AUTH required, and so AT-TLS doesn't help (at least that's what we think - 
I have my network guy working on brainstorming as I type) 

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> > 
> > Has any progress been bade to make SoftCopy Librarian 
> security aware?
> (Using FTP/TLS specifically). We
> > are not allowed to use non secure FTP to the mainframe due to PCI
> constraints.
> 
> Might AT-TLS be a consideration?
> 
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Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
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> 
> Has any progress been bade to make SoftCopy Librarian security aware?
(Using FTP/TLS specifically). We
> are not allowed to use non secure FTP to the mainframe due to PCI
constraints.

Might AT-TLS be a consideration?

   -jc-

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Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

[Jerry Whitteridge]

Has any progress been bade to make SoftCopy Librarian security aware? (Using 
FTP/TLS specifically). We are not allowed to use non secure FTP to the 
mainframe due to PCI constraints. 

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> >Date:Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:03:02 -0500
> >From:    "John P. Baker" 
> >Subject: IBM SoftCopy Librarian>
> >
> >All,
> >Has anyone had any success getting the IBM SoftCopy Librarian to run 
> >under Windows 7?
> >IBM updated version 4.3 was made to run under Windows Vista.
> >However, when attempting to run it under Windows 7, I receive the 
> >following error message -
> >
> >IOException opening log file:java.io.FileNotFoundException: 
> C:\Program 
> >Files (x86)\IBM\SoftCopy Librarian\log.txt
> >
> >Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >John P. Baker
> >Chief Software Architect
> >HFD Technologies
> 
> A new version of IBM SoftCopy Librarian, that supports 
> Windows 7, will be on the V1R11 Refresh Collections being 
> shipped in early April.  
> 
> It will, of course, also be made available for download.  As 
> soon as I have an availability date, I will post it, (and the 
> appropriate URL).
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Re: IBM SoftCopy Librarian

[John P. Baker]

Richard,

Thanks for the update.

John P. Baker

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A new version of IBM SoftCopy Librarian, that supports Windows 7, will be on

the V1R11 Refresh Collections being shipped in early April.  

It will, of course, also be made available for download.  As soon as I have
an 
availability date, I will post it, (and the appropriate URL).

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IBM SoftCopy Librarian

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>Date:Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:03:02 -0500
>From:"John P. Baker" 
>Subject: IBM SoftCopy Librarian>
>
>All,
>Has anyone had any success getting the IBM SoftCopy Librarian to run under
>Windows 7?
>IBM updated version 4.3 was made to run under Windows Vista.
>However, when attempting to run it under Windows 7, I receive the following
>error message -
>
>IOException opening log file:java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Program Files
>(x86)\IBM\SoftCopy Librarian\log.txt
>
>Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>John P. Baker
>Chief Software Architect
>HFD Technologies

A new version of IBM SoftCopy Librarian, that supports Windows 7, will be on 
the V1R11 Refresh Collections being shipped in early April.  

It will, of course, also be made available for download.  As soon as I have an 
availability date, I will post it, (and the appropriate URL).

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IBM SoftCopy Librarian

[John P. Baker]

All,

 

Has anyone had any success getting the IBM SoftCopy Librarian to run under
Windows 7?

 

IBM updated version 4.3 was made to run under Windows Vista.

 

However, when attempting to run it under Windows 7, I receive the following
error message -

 

IOException opening log file:java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Program Files
(x86)\IBM\SoftCopy Librarian\log.txt

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

John P. Baker

Chief Software Architect

HFD Technologies


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IBM Softcopy Librarian cannot seem to access all z1.10 files

[Binyamin Dissen]

When I select DFSort-L in the PDf section I get 

java.io IOException: Server returned HTTP response code 403 for URL:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/zosv1r10p5.des

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Re: Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jerry Whitteridge]

Yes -- and I'd love for Linux and z/OS support too.

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> That's the entire question. Well, with a secondary question of "Does
> anybody else wish it would run on Linux or a Mac? Or maybe 
> even on z/OS
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Re: Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

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> 
> I just took a look to see what the current release is, in 
> case I've missed
> one.  And WOW! the site is showing a LINUX version available.
> 
> So happy demo'ing John!
> 

Where? I only see a Windows download at:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/applications/office/bkmgr/librarian.html

I see a __READER__ for Linux, but not the __LIBRARIAN__.

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Re: Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Matthew Stitt]

I just took a look to see what the current release is, in case I've missed
one.  And WOW! the site is showing a LINUX version available.

So happy demo'ing John!

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>:>That's the entire question. Well, with a secondary question of "Does
>:>anybody else wish it would run on Linux or a Mac? Or maybe even on z/OS
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>Yes. Windows.
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Re: Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:34:19 -0500 "McKown, John"
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:>That's the entire question. Well, with a secondary question of "Does
:>anybody else wish it would run on Linux or a Mac? Or maybe even on z/OS
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Yes. Windows.

Great stuff.

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Re: Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Kurt Gramling]

Yup, strictly on windows - just fine with me.



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Anybody use IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[McKown, John]

That's the entire question. Well, with a secondary question of "Does
anybody else wish it would run on Linux or a Mac? Or maybe even on z/OS
itself under TSO or a UNIX shell or both?"

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian? (what was he drinking?)

[McKown, John]

OK, I'm the original idiot that brought this up. I've looked a Python
and it has some nice things in it. I especially like how I can route the
data from an HTTP GET directly into an ftp session without an
intermediate file.

I now have another consideration. Should I try to make this a "drop in"
replacement which can understand the current software's files (so that a
person could switch back and forth)? I ask because the "CAT" file is, to
me, an abomination. And difficult to read as well. Take a look at it (in
C:\Program Files\IBM\IBM SoftCopy Librarian V4\output\ subdirectory). I
guess it is an attempt to store data that is crossed referenced into
itself like an RDMS without an RDMS. It's giving me a headache just
looking at it. The same goes for the repository information
(repository.fil in the "output" subdirectory). I can't even find where
the "source" information is stored.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:16:54PM -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/06/2005
>at 09:12 AM, Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >I can't speak to Ruby, but Python does.
> Perl runs (mostly) happily on OS/2; does Python?

Yes. See http://www.pcug.org.au/~andymac/python.html .

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/06/2005
   at 09:12 AM, Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I can't speak to Ruby, but Python does.

Perl runs (mostly) happily on OS/2; does Python?
 
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
09/06/2005
   at 08:31 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I might write
>for the "Librarian" functionality would probably be written in Perl.
>Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
>modules from CPAN for utility functions (such an ftp and http
>functions). I don't know how portable the various CPAN modules are.
>It most likely varies greatly.

I've only run into one nasty portability issue in Perl, involving the
CGI module. The code "require CGI" messes up line-end handling even if
you don't explicitly[1] call any of the CGI code. The bug may have
been fixed by now.

[1] The require implicitly calls it.
 
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/06/2005
   at 06:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Linux for what hardware platform?

I'd like to see binaries for at least AMD and Intel; zSeries would be
nice, but as long as there is a z/OS version a z/Linux version
wouldn't add that much.

>I'd hope portable for all.

That would be ideal, given acceptable performance.
 
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

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Does the subjunctive mean you perceive Java has failed to meet its
objective?  Has Java become platform-sensitive, outcome of lawsuits
notwithstanding?

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Ted MacNEIL]

>However, I have seen considerable discussion over the last couple of years
in which a desire for a version for Linux has been mentioned.

So far, I have observed no response out of IBM.

...

Has anybody made a request?
IBM doesn't usually troll the various discussion lists for requirements.
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shane Ginnane]

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:50:16 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
>>
>> You might take a look at Python, which includes a lot of the
>> things that you
>> need to go to CPAN to get for Perl in its standard distribution.
>
>Well, I like Perl. I have also used Python in the past and think well of
>it as well.

I'm with Jay - I picked up Python as a quick "proto-typer". Very impressed,
especially with wxPython giving access to the wxWindows widget set.
I find Python has some limitation with it's sockets implementation, but of
course you can overload that in need.
All up a (generally) nice solution.

Shane ...

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jay Maynard]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:50:16AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> I guarantee that I will __not__ even consider writing it in APL (yes, I
> have an APL on Linux) .

Really? I assume it uses an X window to display in. Is it freely available?

> I was wanting something fairly portable. Perl exists on almost every UNIX
> in the known universe, as well as Windows and MAC OS/X. I do not know know
> if Python or Ruby has such an extensive reach.

I can't speak to Ruby, but Python does.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Paul Gilmartin]

In a recent note, Jay Maynard said:

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:36:28 -0500
> 
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> > Parsing up these files should be so simple that even I could write a
> > program to do it. But the legalities stymie me. I'm a coward, I guess.
> 
> No, I don't think you are. IBM's lawyers are justifiably feared.
> 
There's a T&C page at:

   Linkname: z/OS and OS/390 Internet Library terms and conditions
URL: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/license.html

Which states, first and foremost:

   The z/OS and OS/390 Internet libraries are intended for use by IBM's
   z/Architecture and S/390 customers; other usages are prohibited.

Deep links that bypass that page abound in the WWW.  There are plenty
in the archives of this list.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

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> 
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> > Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I 
> might write
> > for the "Librarian" functionality would probably be written in Perl.
> > Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
> > modules from CPAN for utility functions (such an ftp and http
> > functions). I don't know how portable the various CPAN 
> modules are. It
> > most likely varies greatly.
> 
> PLEASE don't use CPAN. You think DLL hell is a problem on 
> Windows? You ain't
> seen nothing yet.

I use CPAN for some things, but not extensively. Only for one project
and I have had no problems so far. 

> 
> You might take a look at Python, which includes a lot of the 
> things that you
> need to go to CPAN to get for Perl in its standard distribution.

Well, I like Perl. I have also used Python in the past and think well of
it as well. Hum, perhaps I should use this as a "learning experience"
for Ruby. I will refrain from using GCC or Java (although Java is not
really too bad). I guarantee that I will __not__ even consider writing
it in APL (yes, I have an APL on Linux) . I was wanting something
fairly portable. Perl exists on almost every UNIX in the known universe,
as well as Windows and MAC OS/X. I do not know know if Python or Ruby
has such an extensive reach.

If I wanted to be UNIX specific, I could possibly even use "standard"
utilities in a shell script. (wget is so nice for fetching stuff via
http and ftp).

> 
> > Parsing up these files should be so simple that even I could write a
> > program to do it. But the legalities stymie me. I'm a 
> coward, I guess.
> 
> No, I don't think you are. IBM's lawyers are justifiably feared.
> 

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Martin Kline]

> That is a very simple text document which lists the other
> descriptor files. Parsing up these files should be so
> simple that even I could write a program to do it. But the
> legalities stymie me. I'm a coward, I guess.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jay Maynard]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:37AM -0500, McKown, John wrote:
> Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I might write
> for the "Librarian" functionality would probably be written in Perl.
> Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
> modules from CPAN for utility functions (such an ftp and http
> functions). I don't know how portable the various CPAN modules are. It
> most likely varies greatly.

PLEASE don't use CPAN. You think DLL hell is a problem on Windows? You ain't
seen nothing yet.

You might take a look at Python, which includes a lot of the things that you
need to go to CPAN to get for Perl in its standard distribution.

> Parsing up these files should be so simple that even I could write a
> program to do it. But the legalities stymie me. I'm a coward, I guess.

No, I don't think you are. IBM's lawyers are justifiably feared.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[McKown, John]

Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I might write
for the "Librarian" functionality would probably be written in Perl.
Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
modules from CPAN for utility functions (such an ftp and http
functions). I don't know how portable the various CPAN modules are. It
most likely varies greatly.

My main concern at this point, beyond my ability, is whether IBM
corporation could sue me. I've read so much about this sort of thing
that I'm intimidated (as was the intent). Also, could IBM do something
due to the fact that my code would need to access their, publicly
accessable, web pages? For an example, the first "load" to do is via 

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/df/ebrscrt.des

That is a very simple text document which lists the other descriptor
files. Parsing up these files should be so simple that even I could
write a program to do it. But the legalities stymie me. I'm a coward, I
guess.


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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Thomas Kern]

A source RPM for Linux, then I could build the binaries on my RedHat laptop, my
Novell Linux Desktop workstation, my SLES9x server on the z/890 etc.

/Tom Kern

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> > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:55:28 -0300
> > 
> > I'd love a Linux version.
> > 
> Linux for what hardware platform?  z/Series?  Power PC?  SPARC?
> Other (specify)?  I'd hope portable for all.
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jay Maynard]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:07:39AM -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> In a recent note, Jay Maynard said:
> > Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
> > platform, IBM is not about to do anything for Mac OS X specifically, but
> Because OS X abandoned the Power PC?  (In turn because the Power PC
> ceased to meet the requirements of laptops)

Pretty much, yeah. I'd be greatly surprised if IBM went out of its way to do
anything at all for Apple in the future (not like it did before, but...).

> > a platform-independent Java version (you know, what Java was supposed to be
> > all about) woul let me run it there anyway.
> Does the subjunctive mean you perceive Java has failed to meet its
> objective?  Has Java become platform-sensitive, outcome of lawsuits
> notwithstanding?

Java itself is not platform-sensitive (AFAIK); IBM's software, however, is.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[McKown, John]

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Cartwright
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:27 AM
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> 
> 
> John,
> Have you tried it under WINE? I have not myself worked with 
> WINE, I just
> know how to spell it.
> 
> Dave

Yes, I tried WINE. The install failed with many error messages.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[McKown, John]

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fenner, Jim
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:43 PM
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> 
> 
> John,
>   Always enjoy your posts!
> Have you considered buying VMWare for Linux and running (a 
> licensed copy
> of) Windows under Linux as an application?
> It's attractive because (i) you can run any windows app (ii) 
> and if that
> app insists on an older version of Windows, install that version of
> windows into a VM and bob's your uncle (iii) it is just S-O 
> C-O-O-L
> 
> Jim
> 

I already have a PC dedicated to Windows (a low powered PC). VMWare
actually costs more than that PC did. However, I have used VMWare and
agree that it is nice. Having multiple PCs is no problem to me. I have a
LAN and a KVM switch to switch my keyboard/mouse between PCs. I also
have used VNC to have access to my Windows system on my Linux system, if
I am being too lazy to push the KVM button . However, for personal
reasons, I would prefer to be totally off of Windows. I know that I will
never get to that point due to our wonderful LAN people designing "web"
applications which demand .NET in order to use them. I am trying to get
MONO on Linux to do these functions, but it is not there yet (probably
due to my ignorance).

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Paul Gilmartin]

In a recent note, Jay Maynard said:

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:52:46 -0500
> 
> Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
> platform, IBM is not about to do anything for Mac OS X specifically, but
> 
Because OS X abandoned the Power PC?  (In turn because the Power PC
ceased to meet the requirements of laptops)

> a platform-independent Java version (you know, what Java was supposed to be
> all about) woul let me run it there anyway.
> 
Does the subjunctive mean you perceive Java has failed to meet its
objective?  Has Java become platform-sensitive, outcome of lawsuits
notwithstanding?

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jay Maynard]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:03:57AM -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:
> I tried the (Linux) reader a while back, and it went to hell in a handbasket
> - didn't like the Blackdown JRE I had installed IIRC.

Ah, yes, I'd forgotten there was a Linux version. I brought up a Red Hat
system after discovering that's what it wanted (platform independent? Ha.),
and it did indeed run. That doesn't do me any good, though, and writing
Linux-dependent Java is as wrong-headed as writing Windows-dependent Java.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shane Ginnane]

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:52:46 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:

>> > I'd love a Linux version.
>> Linux for what hardware platform?  z/Series?  Power PC?  SPARC?
>> Other (specify)?  I'd hope portable for all.
>
>Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
>platform, IBM is not about to do anything for Mac OS X specifically, but
>a platform-independent Java version (you know, what Java was supposed to be
>all about) woul let me run it there anyway.

 - Java; "write once, run nowhere".
I tried the (Linux) reader a while back, and it went to hell in a handbasket
- didn't like the Blackdown JRE I had installed IIRC.

Yet another instance to re-enforce my dis-enchantment with the abject
con-job that is Java.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Jay Maynard]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 06:47:27AM -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said:
> > I'd love a Linux version.
> Linux for what hardware platform?  z/Series?  Power PC?  SPARC?
> Other (specify)?  I'd hope portable for all.

Heck, I'd settle for a Java version that wasn't tied to the Windows
platform, IBM is not about to do anything for Mac OS X specifically, but
a platform-independent Java version (you know, what Java was supposed to be
all about) woul let me run it there anyway.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Paul Gilmartin]

In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said:

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:55:28 -0300
> 
> I'd love a Linux version.
> 
Linux for what hardware platform?  z/Series?  Power PC?  SPARC?
Other (specify)?  I'd hope portable for all.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

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>Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based,
>or even Linux based version of this utility.

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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Dave Cartwright]

John,
Have you tried it under WINE? I have not myself worked with WINE, I just
know how to spell it.

Dave



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>John,
> Always enjoy your posts!
>Have you considered buying VMWare for Linux and running (a licensed copy
>of) Windows under Linux as an application?
>It's attractive because (i) you can run any windows app (ii) and if that
>app insists on an older version of Windows, install that version of
>windows into a VM and bob's your uncle (iii) it is just S-O C-O-O-L
>
>Jim
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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Fenner, Jim]

John,
Always enjoy your posts!
Have you considered buying VMWare for Linux and running (a licensed copy
of) Windows under Linux as an application?
It's attractive because (i) you can run any windows app (ii) and if that
app insists on an older version of Windows, install that version of
windows into a VM and bob's your uncle (iii) it is just S-O C-O-O-L

Jim




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Subject: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based, or
even Linux based version of this utility. Is there one? If not, how much
trouble would I be in if I were to try to create one? I am running the
Windows based one on my home system. But it uses my Linux based HTTP
proxy (squid) because I don't let my Windows system out onto the
Internet. I have reviewed my Squid logs and found the host name of the
IBM server as well as the names of the control files. I have looked at
the control files and they are simply text files with more variable
information in them. It is fairly likely that even I could write a
replacement program. Most likely in Perl, but maybe even in Java. Both
Perl and Java are available for both the z/OS and Linux systems (Windows
too, of course). I guess that it will depend on how irritated I get with
Windows again.

If you're wondering why I'm using my home system for this, it is because
my work has a "packet shaper" which reduces my ftp speed to about 4Kb/s
in order to conserve bandwidth for higher priority work.


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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[John P Baker]

The only version of the IBM Softcopy Librarian now available is for the
Windows platform.

However, I have seen considerable discussion over the last couple of years
in which a desire for a version for Linux has been mentioned.

So far, I have observed no response out of IBM.

John P Baker
Software Engineer

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Subject: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based, or
even Linux based version of this utility. Is there one? If not, how much
trouble would I be in if I were to try to create one? I am running the
Windows based one on my home system. But it uses my Linux based HTTP
proxy (squid) because I don't let my Windows system out onto the
Internet. I have reviewed my Squid logs and found the host name of the
IBM server as well as the names of the control files. I have looked at
the control files and they are simply text files with more variable
information in them. It is fairly likely that even I could write a
replacement program. Most likely in Perl, but maybe even in Java. Both
Perl and Java are available for both the z/OS and Linux systems (Windows
too, of course). I guess that it will depend on how irritated I get with
Windows again.

If you're wondering why I'm using my home system for this, it is because
my work has a "packet shaper" which reduces my ftp speed to about 4Kb/s
in order to conserve bandwidth for higher priority work.


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Re: Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[Mark Blain]

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 13:59 John McKown wrote (in part), 

> Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based, or even 
> Linux based version of this utility. Is there one? If not, how much trouble 
> would I be in if I were to try to create one?

I'm working at a much lower level (Softcopy Reader alone meets my 
needs), but these links may clarify what's available and for which 
platform(s):

"BookManager Family of Products - Family Overview"
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/applications/office/bkmgr/

"Highlights: Library Server replaces BookServers"
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/applications/office/bkmgr/libserver.html

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Non-Windows version of IBM Softcopy Librarian?

[McKown, John]

Is there such a beastie? I would really prefer to have a z/OS based, or
even Linux based version of this utility. Is there one? If not, how much
trouble would I be in if I were to try to create one? I am running the
Windows based one on my home system. But it uses my Linux based HTTP
proxy (squid) because I don't let my Windows system out onto the
Internet. I have reviewed my Squid logs and found the host name of the
IBM server as well as the names of the control files. I have looked at
the control files and they are simply text files with more variable
information in them. It is fairly likely that even I could write a
replacement program. Most likely in Perl, but maybe even in Java. Both
Perl and Java are available for both the z/OS and Linux systems (Windows
too, of course). I guess that it will depend on how irritated I get with
Windows again.

If you're wondering why I'm using my home system for this, it is because
my work has a "packet shaper" which reduces my ftp speed to about 4Kb/s
in order to conserve bandwidth for higher priority work.


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