Re: IBM book prices - Printer?
Though not necessarily meeting your requirements, I just bought a Canon MX330 all in one (printer, scanner, fax) just for the purpose of using the sheet feed scanner to scan documents directly to PDFs, although I use it occasionally for color printing.It works great with my Linux box, but also supports Windoze and Mac. I only mention it because you can get this thing cheap from newegg for $79 with free shipping, or $69 for a refurbished model. I got the refurbished unit and it looked brand new to me. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: Speaking of printing books, I'm looking for recommendations for a new home printer. I can probably give some ideas, but what is your requirements for this: - Speed - color / black+white. Speed dependend on print area. - Papersize handling and recognition - A3, A4, Letter, etc. - Paper thickness - standard, envelope, etc - Heat applied to paper. - Think of glue in envelopes for example. - Duplex handling of work to be scanned? Ability of printer to send you PDF, TIFF or other format of printed/scanned work via e-mail? Thanks for any suggestions. What suppliers are in your area? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
(When I don't have any old newspaper or junkpaper to light a fire for a nice barbeque, some old obsolete manuals are just fine for that purposes...) This gives a complete new sense to the acronym FM: the Fire-lightning Manual ;-) -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices - Printer?
Speaking of printing books, I'm looking for recommendations for a new home printer. To avoid cluttering the list, please e-mail me if you have any ideas. (I can post a follow-up summary.) I'm looking for the following attributes: Strongly desired: - automatic duplex printing - worldwide voltage (100-240 volts, 50/60 Hz) - low consumables cost - Mac compatibility - USB connection (a given, presumably) Moderately desired: - Linux compatibility - built-in wireless connectivity - compact size/small footprint - color printing support - copier/scanner function Weakly desired: - reasonable photo printing (e.g. color dye inks) - memory card and/or USB memory key direct attachment - save scanned documents directly to USB memory key - small built-in LCD screen (printer menus, previews, etc.) Thanks for any suggestions. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices - Printer?
Timothy Sipples wrote: Speaking of printing books, I'm looking for recommendations for a new home printer. I can probably give some ideas, but what is your requirements for this: - Speed - color / black+white. Speed dependend on print area. - Papersize handling and recognition - A3, A4, Letter, etc. - Paper thickness - standard, envelope, etc - Heat applied to paper. - Think of glue in envelopes for example. - Duplex handling of work to be scanned? Ability of printer to send you PDF, TIFF or other format of printed/scanned work via e-mail? Thanks for any suggestions. What suppliers are in your area? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Gerhard Postpischil pisze: Eric Chevalier wrote: Out of curiosity, why would the developer want hardcopy of the Principles of Operation when it can be downloaded for free as a PDF? 1) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. 2) It's faster to flip back and forth among bookmarked pages in hardcopy than on screen 3) It makes a great doorstop 4) Recreational reading of hardcopy produces significantly less neck strain than viewing a screen 5) It can be read even when there is bright sunlight in your room That's why we have smart device called PRINTER. It can print on both sides of paper, then I can bind the pages and have a book. It takes significantly less time than ordering process in IBM. Of course it's much cheaper. Ad5: we have venetian blinds (louvres). Ad4: My monitor have an adjustment and it is set up to be comfortable to my neck and backbone. Ad3: except for commercial products there are bricks or cheaper books (maybe already no longer needed). Ad2: It depends. I strongly prefer Bookreader for browsing, while sequential reading is better (for me) in paper form. Ad1: Notebook and redundant roll ;-) My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: That's why we have smart device called PRINTER. [ ... snipped ... ] Very entertaining thread... hehehe One question: Did some one invent a PDF doc where you can tear out a paper to light a REAL and HOT fire with it? ;-D (When I don't have any old newspaper or junkpaper to light a fire for a nice barbeque, some old obsolete manuals are just fine for that purposes...) ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Of course not. You would have to print it first, just so you can throw it in the fire;) Just throw the ream of paper into the fire. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM book prices Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: That's why we have smart device called PRINTER. [ ... snipped ... ] Very entertaining thread... hehehe One question: Did some one invent a PDF doc where you can tear out a paper to light a REAL and HOT fire with it? ;-D (When I don't have any old newspaper or junkpaper to light a fire for a nice barbeque, some old obsolete manuals are just fine for that purposes...) ;-D This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM book prices ) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. Funny thing. You can print a PDF and have all the glories of a hard copy. SNIP Assuming: 1) you have 3 holed paper 2) if 1 is false, you have a paper drill 3) for either 1 or 2, your printer handles duplex printing properly 4) for color pages, your printer actually prints color 5) your printer can hold enough paper in the input tray to print the whole manual while you do other things besides baby sit the printer 6) looking at 5, your printer can hold all the output... Perhaps getting some oxygen will help with your gas problem? Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
And it ain't Friday, yet. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM book prices ) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. Funny thing. You can print a PDF and have all the glories of a hard copy. SNIP Assuming: 1) you have 3 holed paper 2) if 1 is false, you have a paper drill 3) for either 1 or 2, your printer handles duplex printing properly 4) for color pages, your printer actually prints color 5) your printer can hold enough paper in the input tray to print the whole manual while you do other things besides baby sit the printer 6) looking at 5, your printer can hold all the output... Perhaps getting some oxygen will help with your gas problem? Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- I am as you, in you, for you. One as you in all, as all, forever. My call is your call. Who am I? I am nobody and everybody! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Thompson, Steve pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM book prices ) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. Funny thing. You can print a PDF and have all the glories of a hard copy. SNIP Assuming: 1) you have 3 holed paper 2) if 1 is false, you have a paper drill We use 2 holes in Europe. I have hole maker. I see it in every office. Mine is a little big more serious. 3) for either 1 or 2, your printer handles duplex printing properly I have one. Real cost: approx. $50 (used). It is much less than book from IBM. 4) for color pages, your printer actually prints color Are there any color pages in the MENTIONED book? 5) your printer can hold enough paper in the input tray to print the whole manual while you do other things besides baby sit the printer Mine holds 500 sheets - this is minimum for this model (additional trays can be added). 6) looking at 5, your printer can hold all the output... Yes, it can. The only problem I have when I print redbooks is to separate one book from another - sometimes I print more than 1 book at a time. Last but not least: besides plain money saving I also save my time. Unfortunately ordering the book in IBM plus getting acceptance in my company would take much more time than printing. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Close, but not quite. The paper used for laser or ink jet printers is quite a bit heaver. My company has a print shop that converts annoyed electrons into dead trees. The paper they use makes for a much lighter, thinner book with a much better look and feel. And, as we all know, feelings are important :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM book prices ) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. Funny thing. You can print a PDF and have all the glories of a hard copy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Fred is buying a vineyard? As a business investment or as a convenience? In one of my previous houses I had a grape arbor. I did not make wine, but I did grow a lot of grapes. In fact at that house I had a pretty large vegetable garden. But the deer got more vegetables than I did, except for zucchini. That and mint grow at astonishing rates. But you can only eat so much zucchini and mint. Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
5) your printer can hold enough paper in the input tray to print the whole manual while you do other things besides baby sit the printer You do not have to print the entire manual at once. Acrobat allows print ranges. 6) looking at 5, your printer can hold all the output... See above. Ranges can be decided by you based on the size of your trays. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM book prices
I keep copies of frequently referenced manuals on networked storage. Everyone seems to like it. It seems to me that we are among the last generations who are more comfortable with hard books than soft. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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For most manuals, softcopy is fine. But having a hardcopy Reference Summary is *useful*. It's the number one manual I refer to, by a long shot, and in the time it would take me to open a softcopy version and lookup what I want, I can be long since finished with the hardcopy version. Printing out the softcopy version is not the same, by the way. Not even close. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gainsford, Allen allen.gainsf...@hp.com wrote: For most manuals, softcopy is fine. But having a hardcopy Reference Summary is *useful*. It's the number one manual I refer to, by a long shot, and in the time it would take me to open a softcopy version and lookup what I want, I can be long since finished with the hardcopy version. Printing out the softcopy version is not the same, by the way. Not even close. This is a pointless discussion. Hardcopy and softcopy have different uses. Always have, always will. The OP wanted a hardcopy; telling him That's not what you want is obnoxious, makes y'all sound like UNIX weenies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:39:54 -0400, Pierre Fichaud pr...@videotron.com wrote: I've just talked to a Canadian product developer who wanted to order Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-06) and the Reference Summary (SA22-7871-05). He was quoted CAD 274.48 and CAD 50.46 respectively. I read in this newsgroup, late last year, that this was to be corrected. Does anyone have a status on this? These prices are ridiculous. Out of curiosity, why would the developer want hardcopy of the Principles of Operation when it can be downloaded for free as a PDF? Eric -- Eric Chevalier E-mail: et...@tulsagrammer.com Web: www.tulsagrammer.com Is that call really worth your child's life? HANG UP AND DRIVE! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
Eric Chevalier wrote: Out of curiosity, why would the developer want hardcopy of the Principles of Operation when it can be downloaded for free as a PDF? 1) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. 2) It's faster to flip back and forth among bookmarked pages in hardcopy than on screen 3) It makes a great doorstop 4) Recreational reading of hardcopy produces significantly less neck strain than viewing a screen 5) It can be read even when there is bright sunlight in your room Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
) It's easier to take hardcopy to the bathroom, and it has all these chapters you'll never read anyway, just in case. Funny thing. You can print a PDF and have all the glories of a hard copy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM book prices
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:15:53 -0500 Eric Chevalier et...@tulsagrammer.com wrote: :On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:39:54 -0400, :Pierre Fichaud pr...@videotron.com wrote: :I've just talked to a Canadian product developer who wanted to order :Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-06) and the Reference Summary :(SA22-7871-05). He was quoted CAD 274.48 and CAD 50.46 respectively. I :read in this newsgroup, late last year, that this was to be corrected. :Does anyone have a status on this? These prices are ridiculous. :Out of curiosity, why would the developer want hardcopy of the :Principles of Operation when it can be downloaded for free as a PDF? It may be cheaper than printing it. And it comes nicely bound. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
