Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
I have one card - punched with the eternal single finger salute! Fun times ... On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Anyone remember the 96-column cards? I'd like to find a box of them. Rick --**-- On 1/16/2012 10:13 PM, Mohd Rizwan wrote: Quite interesting On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Scott Fordscott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Linda, This development is simply amazingas a dinosaur of the original 80 column card age ...things have really changed, big time Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 AM, Linda MooneyLinda.lstsrv@COMCAST.**NETlinda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zManzedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda MooneyLinda.lstsrv@comcast.** net linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--**-- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
In 8457a39f-5e00-40d7-9f52-3128d654d...@yahoo.com, on 01/16/2012 at 09:30 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Knew a guy 15 yrs a go made a lot of money still writing auto coder I might believe AUTOCODER. Would that be 1401, 1410, 7070[1] or 7080 AUTOCODER? [1] By far the most sophisticated of the lot. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Later ones did. I was on one of the first. Available with 4K or8K words of storage. Rick On 1/16/2012 4:21 PM, Tom Harper wrote: 1620s came with either 20, 40, or 60K. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Anyone remember the 96-column cards? I'd like to find a box of them. Rick On 1/16/2012 10:13 PM, Mohd Rizwan wrote: Quite interesting On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Scott Fordscott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Linda, This development is simply amazingas a dinosaur of the original 80 column card age ...things have really changed, big time Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooneylinda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zManzedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooneylinda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Anyone remember the 96-column cards? I'd like to find a box of them. Sure. Send your address offlist and I will send a few. Sorry, they are punched already! -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Rick, I believe you are thinking of a different machine. The 1620 did not have any words. It had individually addressable digits. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Later ones did. I was on one of the first. Available with 4K or8K words of storage. Rick On 1/16/2012 4:21 PM, Tom Harper wrote: 1620s came with either 20, 40, or 60K. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Linda, A good question, I think he liked the 1100. He was completely self - taught, no college, came straight out of WW2 and sent to work for then Remington Rand. He working on typewriters and adding machines before computers made a big splash. It was an interesting time. He was that school there wasn't anything he really couldn't do. I was amazed. My mother also was in the industry when keypunch came into the industry. Unfortunately, lost my dad in Jan 2011 , at age 91. He was also a pretty tough old, gentle guy who would give you the shirt off his back. He grew in southern Indiana pretty poor. So you can say I have vested interest in this crazy industry. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, Sounds like your Dad had quite a career. Did he have a favorite machine? This particular Univac had a tough beginning. It was too heavy for the elevator, so they rigged up some plywood and planned to slide it down the stairs. I wasn't there for the big event, but I saw the evidence. They didn't even add support under the plywood, so when they started it down the stairs, the leading wheels when through, the machine tipped over, slid down the plywood to the bottom of the stairs and slammed into the concrete wall hard enough to take a divot out of it. It must have been quite a fea t to get it righted and into the machine room after that. Ever after, it would occassionaly post a page fault on (dev) message to the console and lock up. When that would happen, we would go over to the machine, open the door and give it just a little boot in the right place. About 80% of the time, it would pick right up and go on. Rest of the time it would crash, and I would get to IPL. :)) It had core memory and a bootstrap tape. Only machine I ever worked! with that had that . The Univac taught me a lot. Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 6:24:23 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, Wow I remember a lot my dad worked on but no the 90, been awhile, he retired working at ft Harrison in Indianapolis on univac 1100s. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Yes, and univacs 90 col cards Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:14 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone remember the 96-column cards? I'd like to find a box of them. Sure. Send your address offlist and I will send a few. Sorry, they are punched already! -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Omg, I initially skimmed your note. That was some experience. I have heard of ppl looking under raised flooring to see water running over the top of the bug and tag cables...that was a tad scary. But to drop a machine, tap it and have it keep going amazing ...lol Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:18 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, Sounds like your Dad had quite a career. Did he have a favorite machine? This particular Univac had a tough beginning. It was too heavy for the elevator, so they rigged up some plywood and planned to slide it down the stairs. I wasn't there for the big event, but I saw the evidence. They didn't even add support under the plywood, so when they started it down the stairs, the leading wheels when through, the machine tipped over, slid down the plywood to the bottom of the stairs and slammed into the concrete wall hard enough to take a divot out of it. It must have been quite a fea t to get it righted and into the machine room after that. Ever after, it would occassionaly post a page fault on (dev) message to the console and lock up. When that would happen, we would go over to the machine, open the door and give it just a little boot in the right place. About 80% of the time, it would pick right up and go on. Rest of the time it would crash, and I would get to IPL. :)) It had core memory and a bootstrap tape. Only machine I ever worked! with that had that . The Univac taught me a lot. Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 6:24:23 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, Wow I remember a lot my dad worked on but no the 90, been awhile, he retired working at ft Harrison in Indianapolis on univac 1100s. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
In 4f15effc.1050...@ync.net, on 01/17/2012 at 04:02 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: Anyone remember the 96-column cards? You mean the business cards? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
1620s came with either 20, 40, or 60K. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I 'started' my life on a 1401, with 8K memory at a major UK bank. Driving a 1419 MICR cheque (check) sorter, a tape deck, and a printer. Noisy? What? -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Linda, Wow I remember a lot my dad worked on but no the 90, been awhile, he retired working at ft Harrison in Indianapolis on univac 1100s. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Alec, Knew a guy 15 yrs a go made a lot of money still writing auto coder Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: I 'started' my life on a 1401, with 8K memory at a major UK bank. Driving a 1419 MICR cheque (check) sorter, a tape deck, and a printer. Noisy? What? -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Scott One of my friends from the 'old' days acquired a 1401 when it was decommissioned. He installed it in his garage. His wife only found out about it when she saw the electric bill! Wonderful machine, you could almost watch the data going around! I was 'promoted' to a 5 tape system - still on an 8K 1401. We used to run a tape sort on night-shift. Took at least an hour, sometimes three hours at month end. We used to go outside and play cricket (not yet popular in the US - give it time, I'm working on it) in the car park (parking lot) while this sort went on. I rigged an alarm that was triggered when a message came to the console. This alarm would be loud enough to be heard during any howzats as we left a window open, shock, horror! 'Nostalgia ain't what it used to be'. ALH -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 9:44 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Alec, Knew a guy 15 yrs a go made a lot of money still writing auto coder Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: I 'started' my life on a 1401, with 8K memory at a major UK bank. Driving a 419 MICR cheque (check) sorter, a tape deck, and a printer. Noisy? What? -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Alec, I love it ..that's great Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: Scott One of my friends from the 'old' days acquired a 1401 when it was decommissioned. He installed it in his garage. His wife only found out about it when she saw the electric bill! Wonderful machine, you could almost watch the data going around! I was 'promoted' to a 5 tape system - still on an 8K 1401. We used to run a tape sort on night-shift. Took at least an hour, sometimes three hours at month end. We used to go outside and play cricket (not yet popular in the US - give it time, I'm working on it) in the car park (parking lot) while this sort went on. I rigged an alarm that was triggered when a message came to the console. This alarm would be loud enough to be heard during any howzats as we left a window open, shock, horror! 'Nostalgia ain't what it used to be'. ALH -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 9:44 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Alec, Knew a guy 15 yrs a go made a lot of money still writing auto coder Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: I 'started' my life on a 1401, with 8K memory at a major UK bank. Driving a 419 MICR cheque (check) sorter, a tape deck, and a printer. Noisy? What? -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Quite interesting On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Linda, This development is simply amazingas a dinosaur of the original 80 column card age ...things have really changed, big time Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- *Mohd Rizwan 9538451750* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Sorry Darren et al, but Nostalgia does exist... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQcaYvbwLPo Wonderful times! ALH -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 9:44 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Alec, Knew a guy 15 yrs a go made a lot of money still writing auto coder Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: I 'started' my life on a 1401, with 8K memory at a major UK bank. Driving a 419 MICR cheque (check) sorter, a tape deck, and a printer. Noisy? What? -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 7:01 pm Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Rick, Your an old timer . Sent from my iPad cott Ford enior Systems Engineer ww.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: Or an 8k 1620 ??? Rick On 1/15/2012 6:28 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi Scott, Sounds like your Dad had quite a career. Did he have a favorite machine? This particular Univac had a tough beginning. It was too heavy for the elevator, so they rigged up some plywood and planned to slide it down the stairs. I wasn't there for the big event, but I saw the evidence. They didn't even add support under the plywood, so when they started it down the stairs, the leading wheels when through, the machine tipped over, slid down the plywood to the bottom of the stairs and slammed into the concrete wall hard enough to take a divot out of it. It must have been quite a fea t to get it righted and into the machine room after that. Ever after, it would occassionaly post a page fault on (dev) message to the console and lock up. When that would happen, we would go over to the machine, open the door and give it just a little boot in the right place. About 80% of the time, it would pick right up and go on. Rest of the time it would crash, and I would get to IPL. :)) It had core memory and a bootstrap tape. Only machine I ever worked with that had that . The Univac taught me a lot. Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 6:24:23 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, Wow I remember a lot my dad worked on but no the 90, been awhile, he retired working at ft Harrison in Indianapolis on univac 1100s. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. Wait until Gen X+1 gets its hand on the 2.5PB machine. They would only weep that their machine does not have an EB of storage ! Nagesh -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In CAFO-8tooGjrKVnYo3Dt5yv0nfdAn=ckkmebbkl86-0nsnnt...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/15/2012 at 12:13 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... 32 GiB of auxillary storage, perhaps, but I seriously doubt 8 GiB of processor storage. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. It's a start, until we figure out how to make it denser. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Linda, This development is simply amazingas a dinosaur of the original 80 column card age ...things have really changed, big time Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Indeed--we've all made that typo! The good news is that I'm not aware of any environment in which both are a simultaneous options, so we're unlikely to wind up with 1/1000 of what we wanted... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Zman, Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:20 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Indeed--we've all made that typo! The good news is that I'm not aware of any environment in which both are a simultaneous options, so we're unlikely to wind up with 1/1000 of what we wanted... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda Mooney) writes: That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. In the 90s, I had done a project that required ten high-end rs/6000 servers (to handle workload that couldn't be handled by half-dozen large 3090s). However by middle of last decade ... there was that much processor power (one BIPS) in cell-phone processor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale by comparison, recent z196 announce claims 50BIPS in maximum configured (80 processor) system http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/ my first programming class was student fortran on 709. my first programming job was porting 1401 MPIO to 360/30 that had 64kbytes ... I got to design implement my own monitor, devices drivers, interrupt handlers, error recovery, storage management, etc. low-end 360 were 0.0018 to 0.034 MIPs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360 and http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2030.html -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Greetings All! Found this article on the BBC today. IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Teeny-tiny, itsy-bitsy, chilly-willy...Said it may take 100-200 atom antimagnetic compound to stabilize at room temperature. In a message dated 1/14/2012 9:06:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, linda.lst...@comcast.net writes: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Linda, What is interesting about this development is that according to Dr. Loth, by increasing the number of atoms from 12 to perhaps 200 it may be possible to make the storage technology stable at room temperatures. AFAIK, the highest density RDIMM storage currently available provides 16 GB per module. This technology could theoretically push that to 128 TB per module. The largest motherboard memory capacity I have seen is 288 GB (18 RDIMMs of 16 GB each). In a few years, this technology could permit the production of computers have a storage capacity as high as 2.5 Petabytes (2.5 x 10^15 bytes). John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Greetings All! Found this article on the BBC today. IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. Linda - Original Message - From: John P. Baker hfdte...@comporium.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:08:48 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, What is interesting about this development is that according to Dr. Loth, by increasing the number of atoms from 12 to perhaps 200 it may be possible to make the storage technology stable at room temperatures. AFAIK, the highest density RDIMM storage currently available provides 16 GB per module. This technology could theoretically push that to 128 TB per module. The largest motherboard memory capacity I have seen is 288 GB (18 RDIMMs of 16 GB each). In a few years, this technology could permit the production of computers have a storage capacity as high as 2.5 Petabytes (2.5 x 10^15 bytes). John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Greetings All! Found this article on the BBC today. IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
On 1/14/2012 6:58 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Their only mistake was spelling the word 'THINK' as 0x5448494E4B instead of 0xE3C8C9D5D2. ;-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
