No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
Please join with me in complaining to IBM that there are no more migration guides for z/OS JES2 and JES3, beginning with z/OS 1.7. These _extremely useful_ books were scrapped because some genius erroneously believed that the z/OS 1.7 Introduction and Release Guide would provide equivalent information. See for yourselves, it doesn't even come close! http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2A117/ AFAICT, all of that great JES2/JES3 migration information has been lost! And, at the worst possible time too! (Look how much JES2 exit rewrite is required due to the extensive JES2 infrastructure changes in z/OS 1.7 needed to support large data sets and TCP/IP over NJE! JES3 installations are lucky because no drastic JES3 rewrite was/is needed to support these features. But there will almost certainly come a time for them as well.) The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/exploiting them. They were an invaluable resource! We need them back! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
I did mention this at least a couple times at JES2 SHARE sessions. The good news is that there's a JES2 migration guide on the z/OS 1.7 DVD; the bad news is that it's for JES2 1.5. How useful! By the by, the JES2 1.7 Installation Exits book needs to be read with a salt shaker nearby, e.g. R11 at entry to exit 52 does not really point to the HCT... http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/installation/zos17_jes2_migration.html is the only salvation for us JES2 folk. Bob Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Please join with me in complaining to IBM that there are no more migration guides for z/OS JES2 and JES3, beginning with z/OS 1.7. These _extremely useful_ books were scrapped because some genius erroneously believed that the z/OS 1.7 Introduction and Release Guide would provide equivalent information. See for yourselves, it doesn't even come close! http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2A117/ AFAICT, all of that great JES2/JES3 migration information has been lost! And, at the worst possible time too! (Look how much JES2 exit rewrite is required due to the extensive JES2 infrastructure changes in z/OS 1.7 needed to support large data sets and TCP/IP over NJE! JES3 installations are lucky because no drastic JES3 rewrite was/is needed to support these features. But there will almost certainly come a time for them as well.) The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/exploiting them. They were an invaluable resource! We need them back! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:15:14 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and TCP/IP over NJE! ... Ooh! Neat trick! The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/exploiting them. They were an invaluable resource! We need them back! ... Don't worry. They'll be back ... right after the PLMs. :-( Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
Ed, Have you checked the z/os 1.7 migration guides? I believe that it was IBM's intention to consolidate ALL the migration information into a single document. Lynette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward E. Jaffe Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!! Please join with me in complaining to IBM that there are no more migration guides for z/OS JES2 and JES3, beginning with z/OS 1.7. These _extremely useful_ books were scrapped because some genius erroneously believed that the z/OS 1.7 Introduction and Release Guide would provide equivalent information. See for yourselves, it doesn't even come close! http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2A117/ AFAICT, all of that great JES2/JES3 migration information has been lost! And, at the worst possible time too! (Look how much JES2 exit rewrite is required due to the extensive JES2 infrastructure changes in z/OS 1.7 needed to support large data sets and TCP/IP over NJE! JES3 installations are lucky because no drastic JES3 rewrite was/is needed to support these features. But there will almost certainly come a time for them as well.) The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/exploiting them. They were an invaluable resource! We need them back! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
Tom Wasik from JES2 development was at SHARE in Seattle the whole week. In once case where we cited missing doc for exit conversion, Tom logged on via wireless during the session and made some manual updates on the spot. Complaints about doc do get attention. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 03/29/2006 12:38 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!! I did mention this at least a couple times at JES2 SHARE sessions. The good news is that there's a JES2 migration guide on the z/OS 1.7 DVD; the bad news is that it's for JES2 1.5. How useful! By the by, the JES2 1.7 Installation Exits book needs to be read with a salt shaker nearby, e.g. R11 at entry to exit 52 does not really point to the HCT... http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/installation/zos17_jes2_migration.html is the only salvation for us JES2 folk. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!
On Mar 29, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Please join with me in complaining to IBM that there are no more migration guides for z/OS JES2 and JES3, beginning with z/OS 1.7. These _extremely useful_ books were scrapped because some genius erroneously believed that the z/OS 1.7 Introduction and Release Guide would provide equivalent information. See for yourselves, it doesn't even come close! http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2A117/ AFAICT, all of that great JES2/JES3 migration information has been lost! And, at the worst possible time too! (Look how much JES2 exit rewrite is required due to the extensive JES2 infrastructure changes in z/OS 1.7 needed to support large data sets and TCP/IP over NJE! JES3 installations are lucky because no drastic JES3 rewrite was/is needed to support these features. But there will almost certainly come a time for them as well.) The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/ exploiting them. They were an invaluable resource! We need them back! Ed, Talk to your friendly SE:-) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
