Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
My guess is that a previous IEBGENER/COPY or FileAid attempt changed the file attributes, or overwrote a control block at the beginning of the Panlib. The other posters are correct in that there are special Pan* programs to add members (or even whole PDS files) to Panlibs. If you have the Panvalet subsystem installed, you can treat Panlibs sort of like a PDS, and that may be useful for some people. *don* On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:55 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Lizette, I tried using the ISPF Panvalet utility and encountered the problem as well. When I try to copy the member from my PDS to the Standard CA-Panvalet library I get the error message INVALID PANVALET LIBRARY The library has incorrect DSORG, RECFM, or is not a compatible version --- On Mon, 7/4/11, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Monday, July 4, 2011, 11:42 PM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE- AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? Thanks in advance. I have not used Panvalet in a long time. But if it is still this way, only Pan Utilities can update Panvalet datasets. If you have the Panvalet manuals, there are ++ control cards in PANVALET that you use in batch with Pan Programs. Panvalet, IIRC, cannot use any utility to access it. It can only be updated with PGM=PAN# type program names. You cannot use FILEAID, IDCAMS, IEBCOPY when working with Panvalet datasets. Panvalet has utilities to access Pan datasets. Do you have the ISPF Interface available? If so, you should be able to use those to do what you want. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
Panvalet does not use a PDS to store the data. I have extensive experience w/Librarian. Librarian had a SUBSYS feature which allowed the Librarian file to be accessed as thought it were a PDS. The general rule was to refer to the Librarian dataset with SUBSYS=xxx (usually LAM... Librarian Access Method) ISTR that Panvalet had a similar feature, however, I have not used Panvalet since the late 70's, so I may be mistaken. I am uninformed as to the details. HTH, snip I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE- AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? Thanks in advance. I have not used Panvalet in a long time. But if it is still this way, only Pan Utilities can update Panvalet datasets. If you have the Panvalet manuals, there are ++ control cards in PANVALET that you use in batch with Pan Programs. Panvalet, IIRC, cannot use any utility to access it. It can only be updated with PGM=PAN# type program names. You cannot use FILEAID, IDCAMS, IEBCOPY when working with Panvalet datasets. Panvalet has utilities to access Pan datasets. Do you have the ISPF Interface available? If so, you should be able to use those to do what you want. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
Lizette, I tried using the ISPF Panvalet utility and encountered the problem as well. When I try to copy the member from my PDS to the Standard CA-Panvalet library I get the error message INVALID PANVALET LIBRARY The library has incorrect DSORG, RECFM, or is not a compatible version --- On Mon, 7/4/11, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Monday, July 4, 2011, 11:42 PM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE- AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? Thanks in advance. I have not used Panvalet in a long time. But if it is still this way, only Pan Utilities can update Panvalet datasets. If you have the Panvalet manuals, there are ++ control cards in PANVALET that you use in batch with Pan Programs. Panvalet, IIRC, cannot use any utility to access it. It can only be updated with PGM=PAN# type program names. You cannot use FILEAID, IDCAMS, IEBCOPY when working with Panvalet datasets. Panvalet has utilities to access Pan datasets. Do you have the ISPF Interface available? If so, you should be able to use those to do what you want. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
I tried using the ISPF Panvalet utility and encountered the problem as well. When I try to copy the member from my PDS to the Standard CA-Panvalet library I get the error message INVALID PANVALET LIBRARY The library has incorrect DSORG, RECFM, or is not a compatible version Is it possible someone used a utility other than Panvalet and broke the dataset? Can you just browse a member in the Pan Library? Can you issue a batch ++WRITE and get a member out of it? What does info on Option 3.4 indicate the library attributes are? Lrecl, RECFM, DSORG, etc.? Do you have a backup incase you need to recover the file? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
I don't know Panvalet. Given the message, you likely need to use a Panvalet supplied utility. Try looking up the LAM or PANV subsystem. -- John McKown Maranatha! Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. On Jul 4, 2011 6:29 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. However I get the error message Unsupported Type for the to dataset which is the Panvalet pds. ER792-Panvalet/Librarian/GEM datasets not allowed as TO dataset. Is there a way of copying a member from a PDS to a Panvalet PDS? Could someone suggest a work around? Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
In 1309778979.80697.yahoomailclas...@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 07/04/2011 at 04:29 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca said: I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. FILE-AID has no code to handle Panvalet. Does CA provide an enhancement to FILE-AID to support Panvalet? If so, has that support been installed? Have you checked with CA support? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
My long iffy memory says you create a pan step that looks something like this plus plus option, input Plus plus add,name,alc. (or what ever format) -data-- // Sorry my iPads plus sign isn't working as I thought it would. Ed Sent from my iPad On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 1309778979.80697.yahoomailclas...@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 07/04/2011 at 04:29 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca said: I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. FILE-AID has no code to handle Panvalet. Does CA provide an enhancement to FILE-AID to support Panvalet? If so, has that support been installed? Have you checked with CA support? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY
File-Aid is a CompuWare product. I used to be the installer for it in my shop. Because we use PanValet to store production members, we have FileAid configured so that its access to PanValet libraries is read only. Allowing updates outside of PanValet utilities can cause problems. In my shop, updates to the PanValet libraries are allowed by batch only - because of the audit trail we need to maintain for production processes. CA will have full documentation on their support site for PanValet. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 8:00:07 AM Subject: Re: PROBLEM COPYING PDS MEMBER TO A PANVALET LIBRARY In 1309778979.80697.yahoomailclas...@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 07/04/2011 at 04:29 AM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca said: I am trying to copy a jcl from my PDS to a Panvalet pds library using FILE-AID. FILE-AID has no code to handle Panvalet. Does CA provide an enhancement to FILE-AID to support Panvalet? If so, has that support been installed? Have you checked with CA support? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
