Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
STOP-X37 was originally from Empact Software in Georgia. They sold it to Boole and Babbage, now part of BMC. It does not do allocation...that is Mainview SRM, IIRC. SAMS:Allocate was originally from Sterling Software prior to their acquisition by CA in 2000. It was incorporated in to CA's BrightStor brand of storage management-related products. In 1994, STOPX-37's original developers decided to reenter this market with a new company called DTS Software and their software is called SRS, a very good product. History lesson over. At varying points in my career, I've used all of them (and more). Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. If I recall correctly, CA-Allocate was part of BrightStor(e), and called SAMS-Allocate. STOPx37 is a much older product, and, prior to CA acquiring BrightStor(e) a much more expensive product. I worked with STOPx in the 1980's; and CA (still called) SAMS in the early 2000's. Except for cost, and a few implementation details, I didn't find many differences in effectiveness. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
...we use a //NOPLD DD DUMMY statement to bypass... John Donnelly National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 408-721-5640 408-721-8364 Cell cjp...@nsc.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
I thought it was //VDSBYPAS DD DUMMY. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM ...we use a //NOPLD DD DUMMY statement to bypass... John Donnelly National Semiconductor Corporation 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 408-721-5640 408-721-8364 Cell cjp...@nsc.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
We get a console message every time StopX37 does a recovery for us. I'd expect to see some of them in the joblog for your allocating job. They all start with SVM. Although cryptic, if you understand StopX, they'll tell you what actions it performed and/or attempted. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Attention: The information contained in this message and or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. (GWCC) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Is DFSMS doing this? Do you use an ACS code that might change the location of the volume? Look for IGD messages in the job messages section after the JCL. Lizette Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Lizette, I checked there were no IGD messages. I did a double check, none of the volumes in that group are SMS or CA-ALLOCATE managed. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:53 AM Is DFSMS doing this? Do you use an ACS code that might change the location of the volume? Look for IGD messages in the job messages section after the JCL. Lizette Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. If I recall correctly, CA-Allocate was part of BrightStor(e), and called SAMS-Allocate. STOPx37 is a much older product, and, prior to CA acquiring BrightStor(e) a much more expensive product. I worked with STOPx in the 1980's; and CA (still called) SAMS in the early 2000's. Except for cost, and a few implementation details, I didn't find many differences in effectiveness. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
You're welcome. If there are no SVM* messages on the original allocation, then StopX37/II is probably not involved. StopX37/II by itself does not determine the volume for allocation. This would be in the IBM OS SRM (System Resource Manager) algorithms. Part of the SVM message text will display the type of StopX37/II Function that is being invoked. Something similar to the following: SVM4855I SET SECONDARY SPACE USING 50% OF PRIMARY ( 2 CYLS) : 1 CYLS When you increased the allocation amount from 1 cyl to 5000, StopX37/II would have been invoked to prevent the allocation from abending, either on the initial allocation request or as part of the EOV call when the allocation ran out of space. Your Eligible Device Table (EDT) is used for the esoteric definitions. The user can code a volser in the JCL, but the UNIT parameter in the JCL will first determine the volume(s) to be used during allocation based on the volumes defined to the esoteric. IBM SRM selects the volume for allocation. I would check the UNIT parameter being used, and determine the volumes that are eligible to be used for that esoteric. One last item is volume level security. I do not see it much anymore, but there are locations that still use it to prevent certain volumes from being used by unauthorized users. You can directly email me the information in the users joblog. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Esmie, Why don't you post the sysout or some of it and see if someone can see what your not. just a possibility I know that works for me. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:50:52 PM EDT From: esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM
Esmie, Is there a chance that you have more of the BMC SRM suite, and the volume is being changed by BMC MainView SRM Allocation software, and not Stop-X37? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Lizette, I checked there were no IGD messages. I did a double check, none of the volumes in that group are SMS or CA-ALLOCATE managed. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:53 AM Is DFSMS doing this? Do you use an ACS code that might change the location of the volume? Look for IGD messages in the job messages section after the JCL. Lizette Mike, Thanks for clearing this up. I looked at the job which created the dsns but there was no SVM* messages displayed. I ran a test and when I increased the size from 1 cyl to 5000, the SVM messages were displayed. My question is what rule is bypassing the allocation. I verified my jcl and I do not have any parms to bypass the volser. --- On Thu, 6/24/10, Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote: From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 5:11 AM StopX37 is NOT CA-Allocate. Two different vendors. Please post facts, not postulates. You can bypass StopX37 routines by coding a DD DUMMY statement in the users job to determine the outcome of the allocation without StopX37/II being involved. Unless you have changed the value in the StopX37/II Global Member, the statement to code would be //PROIGN DD DUMMY. The //NOPLD DD DUMMY is a holdover from the original StopX37 and POOLDASD products back in the Empact Software days. Folks still use it by changing the Global Member parameter of IGNOREDD=PROIGN to IGNOREDD=NOPLD. In addition, unless messaging is turned off or the message prefix has been changed by the user, the joblog should display a message prefix of SVM* whenever StopX37 is invoked to take an action. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Stop X37 is now CA-Allocate which controls allocation of files. Look at the started task under SDSF and look for this message: CA Allocate ASR ROUTINE IS. This will display the library with all the routines that are getting executed. The answer should be there. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of esmie moo Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which may be related to StopX37. The user is creating a VSAM file and is specifying the VOLSER. For some reason the dsn is being allocated on another volume. The environment does NOT have SMS or CA-ALLOCATE or any other software except for StopX37 which raises my suspicion. If somebody is familiar with StopX37 could you point me to look at the specific parm in the StopX37 Parmlib. Thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
