Re: 1401 and MUSIC
--snip Printers were fun sometimes. I once saw an IBM engineer who'd been told by his boss to clean the 1043s. I came upon the scene just after the event, but it was obvious he dodn't know what he was doing. The usual way was to take the ribbon off, put cleaning paper in the tractors (funny stuff with a coating of tiny stiff nylon bristles), close the gate and run a test pattern while manually advancing the cleaning paper. The little bristles would prod out the slugs and carry off the old ink. Not this guy. He opened the gate, took the ribbon off. sprayed (a lot of - must have been) tape cleaner on the train and worked the gate interlock with his thumb to power up the train. I heard the scream. He was standing there, completely black across the waist, shading to grey for inches above and below. The train had siezed and the train motor overload had tripped. It was a custom train, too. -unsnip-- Did that myself once, in my early days. It wasn't a custom train, just a standard QN; but we ended up printing everything on a TN train for several weeks while we waited for train repairs. Came out of my paycheck. :-( And I don't believe there's ANYTHING to take that ink out of a white shirt! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and MUSIC
Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern you could hear on the radio. Some has written some autocoder progarm which played the same music over and over again...The first music on a cpu...way back before PC's. Yes, I wrote code for 7070-7090 and the 1400 series machines...those were really great days. --- Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --snip Printers were fun sometimes. I once saw an IBM engineer who'd been told by his boss to clean the 1043s. I came upon the scene just after the event, but it was obvious he dodn't know what he was doing. The usual way was to take the ribbon off, put cleaning paper in the tractors (funny stuff with a coating of tiny stiff nylon bristles), close the gate and run a test pattern while manually advancing the cleaning paper. The little bristles would prod out the slugs and carry off the old ink. Not this guy. He opened the gate, took the ribbon off. sprayed (a lot of - must have been) tape cleaner on the train and worked the gate interlock with his thumb to power up the train. I heard the scream. He was standing there, completely black across the waist, shading to grey for inches above and below. The train had siezed and the train motor overload had tripped. It was a custom train, too. -unsnip-- Did that myself once, in my early days. It wasn't a custom train, just a standard QN; but we ended up printing everything on a TN train for several weeks while we waited for train repairs. Came out of my paycheck. :-( And I don't believe there's ANYTHING to take that ink out of a white shirt! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and MUSIC
Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern you could hear on the radio. Back about 1966, Carnegie-Mellon Univ had an RCA RACE mass storage unit, with a computer acting as a storage control unit to interface to a Bendix/CDC G-21 processor. I think it was an RCA computer (model number escapes me) but I could be wrong. The programmer set it up to play Flight of the Bumblebee in its entirety, over a nearby radio. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.innovationdp.fdr.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and Music
Yes, and 1-part paper gave a sharper steel band effect while 5-part
was closer to a steam-calliope playing in a circus tent! Ahh, those
old chain 1403s..
In my early Service Bureau days ('66/'67) we regularly did processing
for the various wool brokers (and for the Wheat Board too), and some
of their stationary was magnificent.. beautiful colours, engraved
paper, aromatic carbon sheet inks.. m.. it was a pleasure to come
in for graveyard shift and linger lovingly around the decollator! (I
wonder if a Chemical Hazard sign might be required at the decollator
station these days?)
Graeme.
At 09:37 PM 14/11/2006, you wrote:
She'll be coming round the mountain on a 1403. You had to disengage
the tractor clutch and
wind the paper through slowly by hand.
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Re: 1401 and Music
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2006 at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF. Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and Music
Yes, that is the MUSIC I know. It's what we used in college, for get this, interactive coding of programs, submitting batch jobs, etc. It was still pretty new to the college, and the college still made all new computer students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was like in case they were still in use in business when we graduated.. This was in the early 80's. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 1401 and Music In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2006 at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF. Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and Music
It's still available from McGill. Some of the Hercules folks play with it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] 1401 and Music Yes, that is the MUSIC I know. It's what we used in college, for get this, interactive coding of programs, submitting batch jobs, etc. It was still pretty new to the college, and the college still made all new computer students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was like in case they were still in use in business when we graduated.. This was in the early 80's. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 1401 and Music In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2006 at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF. Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and Music
In a message dated 11/15/2006 8:48:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: computer students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was like in case they were still in use in business when we graduated.. This was in the early 80's. What I remember it was the successor to RAX. Big improvement over cards, but somebody dropped the APL ball and couldn't motor for two days...some where the Tektronic came into play and was able to do graphics interactively although maybe it was a dialup connection. Still beat cards to pieces. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1401 and Music
Yes, MUSIC was McGill University System (for) Interactive Computing. BTW, I believe that MUSIC is now public domain. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 1401 and Music In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/14/2006 at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF. Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
