Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Just want to give an udpate on this issue. IBM has opened OA26013 for me, if anyone else is interested. Curt IBM opened for me OA24615 a while ago and they had us test PK69442 week before last which did not help the issues. They are back looking at traces, dumps, etc, we supplied. It is that time of the month when we generate our WLC reports to send into IBM. I am paying particular attention to figuring out how much this problem has cost me as far as MSUs and deducting it off my SCRT report. I may not be able to quantify but I just gotta give it the ole college try. jim marshall -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Correction: the PTF was AK69442.jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Just want to give an udpate on this issue. IBM has opened OA26013 for me, if anyone else is interested. Curt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.9 SDSF (Was: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9)
Skip Robinson wrote: There was a fundamental and as far as I know undocumented change in SDSF for 1.9. [snip] All users of SDSF at 1.9+ should look at OA25498 , which mentions the new Extended Status SSI interface. A number of anomalies are or might be attributable to this functional change. Yup. SSI 80 is the quickest way to achieve JES neutrality. Unfortunately, fundamental programming changes nearly always create fundamental problems. And, based on recent postings to IBM-MAIN, it seems that *someone* at IBM should have noticed this high degree of performance degradation before the customers did in production. And, why the rush to release such fundamental and undocumented internal changes with bad performance no obvious external benefit to existing customers? The whole exercise seems a bit hurried and sloppy to me. I guess the cowboys are now in charge ... O:-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Hi, POS appears to be working fine for us (with 5 jobs waiting in class O, and 27 in class P). There is also a Wpos column for positions within WLM service classes, but that appears sensibly filled as well. I presume you reworked any ISFPRM customisation from the ISFPRM01 defaults. This particular system isn't in a sysplex though. Best regards, David Tidy Tel:(31)115-67-1745 IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf Fax:(31)115-67-1762 Dow Benelux B.V.Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. I did a quick search on IBMLink and IBM-Main, and found no hits. I also reviewed the 1.9 migration manual and found no reference to this SDSF screen. I am curisous if others who have migrated to z/OS 1.9 have encountered this, and if so, what has been your reaction. I have also opened a PMR with IBM. Thanks, Curt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Hello, I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. I did a quick search on IBMLink and IBM-Main, and found no hits. I also reviewed the 1.9 migration manual and found no reference to this SDSF screen. I am curisous if others who have migrated to z/OS 1.9 have encountered this, and if so, what has been your reaction. I have also opened a PMR with IBM. Thanks, Curt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Curt Thompson Hello, I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. Different sort key, perhaps? At the moment I can't say whether we'd see something similar, because there are no jobs awaiting execution on either the 1.7 or 1.9 images. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
Have you re-assemed ISFPARMS, any exits, umods, etc with the correct macro levels? Have you removed module ISFLPA from LPALIB/LPALST? snip I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:31:33 -0500, Curt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. I did a quick search on IBMLink and IBM-Main, and found no hits. I also reviewed the 1.9 migration manual and found no reference to this SDSF screen. I am curisous if others who have migrated to z/OS 1.9 have encountered this, and if so, what has been your reaction. I have also opened a PMR with IBM. Nope. I did notice that dup jobs get a POS number under z/OS 1.9 and not on 1.8 from what I can tell. If you type ARRANGE ? in the command line is the POS width the same on both your 1.8 and 1.9 systems? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9
There was a fundamental and as far as I know undocumented change in SDSF for 1.9. The change affected primarily the 'ST' and 'I' displays because of the mechanism used to collect information from JES2. We were an ESP customer for 1.9 and noticed early on that the 'I' and 'ST' displays were pretty much identical. In other words, 'I' displayed way more than it should have. That was fixed via APAR, but I can't find it at the moment. All users of SDSF at 1.9+ should look at OA25498 , which mentions the new Extended Status SSI interface. A number of anomalies are or might be attributable to this functional change. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Curt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] INCIPAL.COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU SDSF I (Input) Screen with z/OS 1.9 07/16/2008 01:31 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Hello, I migrated my first system to z/OS v1.9 this past weekend, and my Operations staff noticed that the SDSF I screen, and its column labeled POS appears to be broken. In looking at this same screen on a 1.8 system (in the same plex), the numbering sequence of jobs waiting appears correct (sequential). However, this same set of jobs on the 1.9 system has a POS numbering scheme that appears to be random, with position numbers missing. I did a quick search on IBMLink and IBM-Main, and found no hits. I also reviewed the 1.9 migration manual and found no reference to this SDSF screen. I am curisous if others who have migrated to z/OS 1.9 have encountered this, and if so, what has been your reaction. I have also opened a PMR with IBM. Thanks, Curt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
