Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390

2007-01-31 Thread Birger Heede

I also find Batchpipes V2 R1 as the only release for Version 2.
Program number is 5655-D45. Available May 2000.

I find nothing later.

For some non-IBM information see:
http://www.jpaulmorrison.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BatchPipes


Birger Heede 
IBM Denmark

oktg wrote:

Hi,

In an earlier posting I asked if somebody could tell me the latest 
available release of Smartbatch for OS/90. I have now found an IBM  
PAL which says:


Programming Announcement letter ZP01-0183 dated March 06, 2001
Versions to be withdrawn from service April 04, 2004:
Product Name   Version  Product
 Number

IBM SmartBatch for OS/390  15655-A17

So Smartbatch is discontinuedbut now my want to know the latest 
available releasenr of BatchPipes OS/390 ???


On IBM booksshelves i found documents for:

 IBM BatchPipes OS/390 V2R1

Many thanks in advance

Frank Silven



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Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390

2007-01-31 Thread David Betten
I don't remember all the specifics but initially IBM offered Batchpipes as
a standalone product.  It was later merged into the Smartbatch product
which was a combination of Batchpipes with some automatic buffering and
parallel processing tools.  Then after a few years, Smartbatch was
withdrawn and but the Batchpipes component was again offered by itself.   I
believe Batchpipes is still supported.

Have a nice day,
Dave Betten
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IBM Corporation
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 01/31/2007
08:41:40 AM:

> I also find Batchpipes V2 R1 as the only release for Version 2.
> Program number is 5655-D45. Available May 2000.
>
> I find nothing later.
>
> For some non-IBM information see:
> http://www.jpaulmorrison.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BatchPipes
>
>
> Birger Heede 
> IBM Denmark
>
> oktg wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In an earlier posting I asked if somebody could tell me the latest
> > available release of Smartbatch for OS/90. I have now found an IBM
> > PAL which says:
> >
> > Programming Announcement letter ZP01-0183 dated March 06, 2001
> > Versions to be withdrawn from service April 04, 2004:
> > Product Name   Version  Product
> >  Number
> >
> > IBM SmartBatch for OS/390  15655-A17
> >
> > So Smartbatch is discontinuedbut now my want to know the latest
> > available releasenr of BatchPipes OS/390 ???
> >
> > On IBM booksshelves i found documents for:
> >
> >  IBM BatchPipes OS/390 V2R1
> >
> > Many thanks in advance
> >
> > Frank Silven
> >
>
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Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390

2007-01-31 Thread Knutson, Sam
Making PIPES an automatically entitled part of the base z/OS product
would allow users and vendors to build function that depends on it and
add a great deal of value to z/OS as a platform.  I remember how excited
I was when I stumbled on one of the "Plumber's" sessions at SHARE years
ago and how quickly that excitement faded when I realized the hurdles I
felt I could not overcome to get it acquired.  

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
Performance and Availability Management 
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withdrawn and but the Batchpipes component was again offered by itself.
I
believe Batchpipes is still supported.

Have a nice day,
Dave Betten
DFSORT Development, Performance Lead
IBM Corporation
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1-240-715-4655, tie line 268-1499
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Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390

2007-01-31 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:07 AM
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> Subject: Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390
> 
> 
> Making PIPES an automatically entitled part of the base z/OS product
> would allow users and vendors to build function that depends on it and
> add a great deal of value to z/OS as a platform.  I remember 
> how excited
> I was when I stumbled on one of the "Plumber's" sessions at 
> SHARE years
> ago and how quickly that excitement faded when I realized the 
> hurdles I
> felt I could not overcome to get it acquired.  
> 
> Best Regards, 
> 
> Sam Knutson, GEICO 

I don't know anything about the PIPES being discussed here. However, you
can "pipe" information from one job to another using standard JCL. Run
the following two jobs together, in separate initiators (of course!).
Oh, and make any JCL changes necessary!

//useridGW JOB (H0I),'TESTPIPE1',CLASS=D,MSGCLASS=X,
// TYPRUN=HOLD,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TIME=NOLIMIT
//STEP002  EXEC  PGM=ICEGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT1   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MACLIB(READ)
//SYSUT2 DD PATH='/tmp/MCKOWNPIPE',
// PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
// PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR),
// PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,OWRONLY),
// DSNTYPE=PIPE,
// LRECL=80,RECFM=F,BLKSIZE=80
//
/*EOF
//useridGR JOB (H0I),'TESTPIPE2',CLASS=D,MSGCLASS=X,
// TYPRUN=HOLD,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TIME=NOLIMIT
//STEP002  EXEC  PGM=ICEGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT1 DD PATH='/tmp/MCKOWNPIPE',
// PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
// PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR),
// PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,ORDONLY),
// DSNTYPE=PIPE,
// LRECL=80,RECFM=F,BLKSIZE=80
//SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
//

The GW job will "pipe" SYS1.MACLIB(READ) to /tmp/MCKOWNPIPE, which will
be read and printed by the GR job. Whichever one starts first will wait
for the second one to start. When the GW job signals EOF, then both jobs
will terminate.

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Re: Smartbatch for OS/390 vs Batchpipes OS/390

2007-02-01 Thread jim harrison
Interesting... after a few false starts I actually got this working.  Had to 
change ICEGENER to IEBGENER (ICEGENER was getting a RC=12) and use a 
different PATH, but it works as advertised.But does this buy you 
anything?  Looks like it's just routing the data through a USS file although 
I suppose with a large file you could have two jobs running concurrently and 
cut down on total elapsed time.



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I don't know anything about the PIPES being discussed here. However, you
can "pipe" information from one job to another using standard JCL. Run
the following two jobs together, in separate initiators (of course!).
Oh, and make any JCL changes necessary!

//useridGW JOB (H0I),'TESTPIPE1',CLASS=D,MSGCLASS=X,
// TYPRUN=HOLD,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TIME=NOLIMIT
//STEP002  EXEC  PGM=ICEGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT1   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MACLIB(READ)
//SYSUT2 DD PATH='/tmp/MCKOWNPIPE',
// PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
// PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR),
// PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,OWRONLY),
// DSNTYPE=PIPE,
// LRECL=80,RECFM=F,BLKSIZE=80
//
/*EOF
//useridGR JOB (H0I),'TESTPIPE2',CLASS=D,MSGCLASS=X,
// TYPRUN=HOLD,
// NOTIFY=&SYSUID,TIME=NOLIMIT
//STEP002  EXEC  PGM=ICEGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT1 DD PATH='/tmp/MCKOWNPIPE',
// PATHDISP=(KEEP,KEEP),
// PATHMODE=(SIRUSR,SIWUSR),
// PATHOPTS=(OCREAT,ORDONLY),
// DSNTYPE=PIPE,
// LRECL=80,RECFM=F,BLKSIZE=80
//SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
//

The GW job will "pipe" SYS1.MACLIB(READ) to /tmp/MCKOWNPIPE, which will
be read and printed by the GR job. Whichever one starts first will wait
for the second one to start. When the GW job signals EOF, then both jobs
will terminate.

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Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
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Administrative Services Group
Information Technology


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