Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Holst
Somewhere stuck in the back of mymemory is a restriction that the source 
catalog for a REPRO MERGECAT cannot be the active master catalog. However, I am 
not able to find something in the documentation to back up this memory.

Maybe this is an old restriction that has since been removed; maybe I cannot 
find the doc to prove this; maybe I am just getting old.

If this is a restriction, you can always bring up the system with another 
master catalog and connect this master catalog to it and treat it as a user 
catalog.

Jeff Holst 

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-03-01 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
On z/OS 1.11 and probably as far back as OS/390 2.10, I have had no problem 
using the MERGECAT operand specifying the active master catalog in either 
direction (source or destination).

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Somewhere stuck in the back of mymemory is a restriction that the source 
catalog for a REPRO MERGECAT cannot be the active master catalog. However, I am 
not able to find something in the documentation to back up this memory.

Maybe this is an old restriction that has since been removed; maybe I cannot 
find the doc to prove this; maybe I am just getting old.

If this is a restriction, you can always bring up the system with another 
master catalog and connect this master catalog to it and treat it as a user 
catalog.

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-03-01 Thread Larry Crilley
The sample below will do the job.  As others have mentioned, products like
T-REX can perform this task exponentially faster.  It would also offer you a
SIMULATE feature to verify what entries would be moved.

 

If you have any questions on the process, or would like to bounce ideas off
me, feel free to call anytime.

 

Larry Crilley

Dino-Software Corporation

800.480.DINO

412.366.3566

www.dino-software.com

 

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On 2/29/2012 6:43 AM, Martin, Larry D wrote:

 You can also use IDCAMS MERGECAT to move the catalog entries and then
define the ALIAS(s).

 

 

Here is a sample to do it.

 

//MOVCAT   JOB

//*

//PRINT   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

//*

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=A

//SYSIN DD *

  REPRO -

 LEVEL(@ ) -

 INDATASET(CATALOG.MSTCAT) -

 OUTDATASET(CATALOG.USRCAT) -

 MERGECAT

  DEFINE ALIAS(NAME(@ ) -

 RELATE(CATALOG.USRCAT)) -

 CAT(CATALOG.MSTCAT)

 

 

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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-03-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5467422117818390.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
02/29/2012
   at 01:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

I have a question on terminology: someone stated here lately that
user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.

Are you sure? Perhaps they stated that VSAM catalogs or STEPCAT were
anceint history.

 Is this so?

No.
 
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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
You use IDCAMS to to a REPRO LEVEL(userid) MERGECAT from the master to the 
correct user catalog and then DEFINE the ALIAS.

There are Catalog enhancing utilities (Catalog Recovery Plus and the other one) 
that do this faster than IDCAMS if you have a large number of entries to move.
 

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 I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with alias relating to 
 user
 catalog.
 
  typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating to user
 catalog.
 
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 From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:11 AM
 Subject: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue
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 Hi,
 
 Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
 Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
 catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
 is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to 
 understand if it
 is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under master catalogue
 to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in big number.
 
 Jake
 
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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Anthony Thompson
I think the reference is to REPRO MERGECAT... doubt that will help here.

Might be easiest to use DF/DSS to dump/delete datasets, then establish the 
proper catalogue alias, then RESTORE/catalogue the files. I imagine FDR can do 
the same thing.

I was looking at a piece of software here called T-Rex (by Dino-soft), but all 
it would help with is an INTEGRITYCHECK command to compare catalogues and 
verify the alias' are all correct and accounted for.

Ant.


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Subject: Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

Robert,

I am unable to find any Information on MIGRATECAT on google search..

Is there someone who can point me to some Fine manuals relating to MIGRATCAT?

Jake

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com
 wrote:

 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message 
 news:5467422117818390.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu...
  On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:14:36 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
  
   typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias
 relating to
  user catalog.
  
  To my understanding, that's half right.  It happens when  a userid 
  is
  *not* defined with alias relating to user catalog _and_ the master 
  catalog is *not* suitably protected.
 
  I have a question on terminology:  someone stated here lately that 
  user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.  Is this so?  If 
  so, how are user data sets catalogued?
 
  -- gil
 

 This was probably about CVOL catalogs, I remember this remark.

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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
Just uncat them (with nscr) define the alias, recat.
No need to mess with the data itself.

See RCNVTCAT on the cbt. And yes, it works on SMS datasets as well. You'll need 
to massage the file RCNVTCAT generates so as not to hit innocent bystanders, 
but its just a mindless edit. Feed the file into IDCAMS.
Worked fine last time I had to do it - a while ago admittedly.

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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
REPRO MERGECAT will certainly work, but Shane's also correct if the datasets 
aren't SMS.
Even if they are SMS, with proper authority, you could DELETE dsn NOSCRATCH and 
DEFINE RECATALOG 

If it was me, I'd use MERGECAT (I have that job  already in my library) unless 
it was a really large number of datasets, then since I have CR+, I'd use it.

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 Subject: Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master
 Catalogue
 
 I think the reference is to REPRO MERGECAT... doubt that will help
 here.
 
 Might be easiest to use DF/DSS to dump/delete datasets, then establish
 the proper catalogue alias, then RESTORE/catalogue the files. I imagine
 FDR can do the same thing.
 
 I was looking at a piece of software here called T-Rex (by Dino-soft),
 but all it would help with is an INTEGRITYCHECK command to compare
 catalogues and verify the alias' are all correct and accounted for.
 
 Ant.
 
 
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 Subject: Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master
 Catalogue
 
 Robert,
 
 I am unable to find any Information on MIGRATECAT on google search..
 
 Is there someone who can point me to some Fine manuals relating to
 MIGRATCAT?
 
 Jake
 
 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
 kees.verno...@klm.com
  wrote:
 
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  news:5467422117818390.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu...
   On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:14:36 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
   
typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias
  relating to
   user catalog.
   
   To my understanding, that's half right.  It happens when  a userid
   is
   *not* defined with alias relating to user catalog _and_ the master
   catalog is *not* suitably protected.
  
   I have a question on terminology:  someone stated here lately that
   user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.  Is this so?  If
   so, how are user data sets catalogued?
  
   -- gil
  
 
  This was probably about CVOL catalogs, I remember this remark.
 
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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 Hi,
 
 Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users
 datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under
 Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with
alias relating
 to user catalog. I am just trying to understand if it is possible to move
all the users
 dataset catalogued under master catalogue to a user catalogue since the
Number of
 datasets are in big number.
 
 Jake
 

If the datasets are not migrated, then you can use DFDSS to dump/delete,
create the alias, restore the files with CATALOG.  
If they are migrated, then recall them, DFDSS dump/delete, create the alias,
restore with CATALOG option.  If they are migrated and you cannot recall
them, then keep the list of migrated files, and recover them with DFHSM
after you correct the alias. 

I do not think you can do a repromergcat if the alias does not already
exist.

This should work.  I have used this technique in the past.

Lizette

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Martin, Larry D
You can also use IDCAMS MERGECAT to move the catalog entries and then define 
the ALIAS(s).

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Subject: Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

 
 Hi,
 
 Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration 
 the
Users
 datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under
 Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid is defined 
 with
alias relating
 to user catalog. I am just trying to understand if it is possible to 
 move
all the users
 dataset catalogued under master catalogue to a user catalogue since 
 the
Number of
 datasets are in big number.
 
 Jake
 

If the datasets are not migrated, then you can use DFDSS to dump/delete, create 
the alias, restore the files with CATALOG.  
If they are migrated, then recall them, DFDSS dump/delete, create the alias, 
restore with CATALOG option.  If they are migrated and you cannot recall them, 
then keep the list of migrated files, and recover them with DFHSM after you 
correct the alias. 

I do not think you can do a repromergcat if the alias does not already exist.

This should work.  I have used this technique in the past.

Lizette

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Hervey Martinez
Yes, it is possible to move files cataloged to the master onto an alias under a 
user catalog.

It's been a while since I've done this but you probably have to define an alias 
different from the first level of your files. For example, if you have files, 
aaa.bbb that are defined to the master; then, the new alias can't be aaa; 
it has to be something different like aa1. Once the new alias has been 
defined, then the catalog pointers need to be merged onto the new user cat. If 
you have a utility such as TREX or Catalog Solutions, these utilities make this 
work much easier but IDCAMS can also do the merge of these records. Being user 
files, you may be able to just rename the files to your new alias provided 
these are not in use and there are no VSAM files involved; you can't rename a 
VSAM to an alias that's in a different catalog than the original vsam. 

Thanks,
 
Hervey


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Subject: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

 typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

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Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Subject: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu


Hi,

Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under
master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in
big number.

Jake

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread retired-mainfra...@q.com
Responses to a question with different opinions about the best way to solve a 
problem are nothing new to this list.  But the amount of misinformation you 
received for a relatively simple question probably sets a high water mark I 
hope we don't challenge ever again.

Fortunately you did recieve some workable solutions.  The REPRO MERGECAT 
command reference is in the Access Methods Services manual.  If you need 
further explanatory material, see the Managing Catalogs manual.  The DSS 
commands are described in the DFSMSdss Storage Administration manual.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:44:36 PM
Subject: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

 typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Subject: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu


Hi,

Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under
master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in
big number.

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Richard L Peurifoy

On 2/29/2012 6:43 AM, Martin, Larry D wrote:

You can also use IDCAMS MERGECAT to move the catalog entries and then define 
the ALIAS(s).



Here is a sample to do it.

//MOVCAT   JOB
//*
//PRINT   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//*
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=A
//SYSIN DD *
 REPRO -
LEVEL(@ ) -
INDATASET(CATALOG.MSTCAT) -
OUTDATASET(CATALOG.USRCAT) -
MERGECAT
 DEFINE ALIAS(NAME(@ ) -
RELATE(CATALOG.USRCAT)) -
CAT(CATALOG.MSTCAT)


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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 13:24 +0530 on 02/29/2012, Jake anderson wrote about Re: Fwd: User 
datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Cata:



Robert,

I am unable to find any Information on MIGRATECAT on google search..

Is there someone who can point me to some Fine manuals relating to
MIGRATCAT?

Jake


OOPS - As Dave Gibney responded the command I was thinking of is 
MERGECAT. I mistyped/misremembered the command name but had the right 
idea. I did however add the or something like that caveat to cover 
the wrong name case.


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User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Jake anderson
Hi,

Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under
master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in
big number.

Jake

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Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Jake anderson
I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

 typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating to
user catalog.

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Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:11 AM
Subject: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu


Hi,

Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under
master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in
big number.

Jake

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:11 +0530 on 02/29/2012, Jake anderson wrote about User datasets 
wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue:



Hi,

Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration the
Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets are
catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a userid
is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued under
master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are in
big number.

Jake


I seem to have an impression that there is a command called 
MIGRATECAT (or something like that) which will move the catalog 
entries from one catalog to another. If you follow that by a define 
of the alias you should get your desired result). Assuming that I am 
correct the only Gotcha is if the command will accept a From Here 
On wild card (ie: HLQ.* means ALL Datasets and Clusters under HLQ no 
matter how many levels).


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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:14:36 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:

 typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating to
user catalog.
 
To my understanding, that's half right.  It happens when  a userid is
*not* defined with alias relating to user catalog _and_ the master
catalog is *not* suitably protected.

I have a question on terminology:  someone stated here lately that
user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.  Is this so?  If
so, how are user data sets catalogued?

-- gil

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Re: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Still: we do not allow a restore/recall to update the Master catalog, we
rather let it fail to clearly indicate the problem.

Kees.


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...
 I agree that this happens when a userid is defined with alias
relating to
 user catalog.
 
  typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias relating
to
 user catalog.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:11 AM
 Subject: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue
 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Recently We have installed a new system Z/OS 1.13. During migration
the
 Users datasets were restored and unfortunately all the user datasets
are
 catalogued under Master catalogue. I agree that this happens when a
userid
 is defined with alias relating to user catalog. I am just trying to
 understand if it is possible to move all the users dataset catalogued
under
 master catalogue to a user catalogue since the Number of datasets are
in
 big number.
 
 Jake
 
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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
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 On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:14:36 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
 
  typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias
relating to
 user catalog.
  
 To my understanding, that's half right.  It happens when  a userid is
 *not* defined with alias relating to user catalog _and_ the master
 catalog is *not* suitably protected.
 
 I have a question on terminology:  someone stated here lately that
 user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.  Is this so?  If
 so, how are user data sets catalogued?
 
 -- gil
 

This was probably about CVOL catalogs, I remember this remark.

Kees.

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Re: Fwd: User datasets wrongly catalogued under Master Catalogue

2012-02-28 Thread Jake anderson
Robert,

I am unable to find any Information on MIGRATECAT on google search..

Is there someone who can point me to some Fine manuals relating to
MIGRATCAT?

Jake

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com
 wrote:

 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
 news:5467422117818390.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu...
  On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:14:36 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
  
   typo - it happens when  a userid is *not* defined with alias
 relating to
  user catalog.
  
  To my understanding, that's half right.  It happens when  a userid is
  *not* defined with alias relating to user catalog _and_ the master
  catalog is *not* suitably protected.
 
  I have a question on terminology:  someone stated here lately that
  user catalogs are ancient history; no longer used.  Is this so?  If
  so, how are user data sets catalogued?
 
  -- gil
 

 This was probably about CVOL catalogs, I remember this remark.

 Kees.
  
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