What's with IBMLINK now??
Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
snip www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. /snip Here's my response form IBM FeedBack about it. I find that it goes away after a while but happens mostly with Firefox. When I get it, I go to IE and get in OK. I had an offline line email from someone else who's had the problem and they accepted the site and apparently got in. -PARASURAM, RAJESH -5700URSF0 -L789/IBMLNK-P3S3-10/02/24-19:17- Hi John , Can you please give a try by deleting the cookies by going to Tools- options -delete - delete cookies in Internet Explorer.I would like to inform you that if do that saved website address will be erased.Please d elete if you are ok with and try to access the website . Regards, Rajesh Parasuram . -IL70570 -5700URSF0 -ETRPRO -P4S3-10/02/25-15:34- Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
I'm getting the classic: 500 Internal Server Error Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
John, I just tried www.ibm.com/ibmlink and I got the www-304.ibm.com/... like I always get. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What's with IBMLINK now?? Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
Wow! Many times, I've heard of people not being able to get a site to load properly with IE, but when they used Firefox all was well. I've never heard the story told this way around; where Firefox had problems, but IE was all good. Chalk one up for MS, I guess. All the best, Scott T. Harder Mainframe Services, Inc. Naples, FL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kelly Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What's with IBMLINK now?? snip www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. /snip Here's my response form IBM FeedBack about it. I find that it goes away after a while but happens mostly with Firefox. When I get it, I go to IE and get in OK. I had an offline line email from someone else who's had the problem and they accepted the site and apparently got in. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
BTW, this is using firefox... Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What's with IBMLINK now?? John, I just tried www.ibm.com/ibmlink and I got the www-304.ibm.com/... like I always get. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What's with IBMLINK now?? Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov (John Kelly) writes: Here's my response form IBM FeedBack about it. I find that it goes away after a while but happens mostly with Firefox. When I get it, I go to IE and get in OK. I had an offline line email from someone else who's had the problem and they accepted the site and apparently got in. it isn't so much that it is an invalid certificate ... it is an incorrect certificate. the whole point is that the domain name in the certificate is supposed to correspond to the URL that the browser is using. browsers have some rules about wild-card (fuzzy) match between what is in the certificate and what the URL they are using ... in general, domain names have to EXACTLY match the URL ... or for wild-card, the trailing part (in the certificate) has to match the corresponding field in the URLs used by the browser. long ago and far away, we were brought in to consult with small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server ... and they had invented this technology called SSL that they wanted to use (the result is now frequently called electronic commerce). As part of the effort, we had to do some in-depth review of the protocol and browser operation ... as well as business processor walkthrus with some of the new operations calling themselves Certification Authorities. misc. past posts about ssl digital certificates http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sslcerts it turns out that there were several security assumptions about how all the pieces actually fit together and worked ... in some number of cases, some of those security assumptions were almost immediately violated (which can be considered at the root of some number of current compromises). -- 42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
Same here. Working as expected with FF. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote: John, I just tried www.ibm.com/ibmlink and I got the www-304.ibm.com/... like I always get. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What's with IBMLINK now?? Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
I just deleted the bluecoat string from the address in the address window and got in, so the original URI apparently is still working. Makes me wonder where the bluecoat is coming from, and why. pause OK, just exited IBMLINK and re-entered via www.ibm.com/ibmlink, and got the normal www-304.ibm.com/. . . URI (no bluecoat). C'est la vie, I guess. -jc- -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What's with IBMLINK now?? Same here. Working as expected with FF. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote: John, I just tried www.ibm.com/ibmlink and I got the www-304.ibm.com/... like I always get. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What's with IBMLINK now?? Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
mpac...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) writes: Same here. Working as expected with FF. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#19 What's with IBMLINK now?? one issue is that people may be actually going to different machines/gateways I've seen it with ibm greater connection ... there are various webhosting services ... with multiple physical locations around the world ... where connection is directed to the closest facility. Lots of big coporations will outsource some part of their operation to such a facility (in part because they have these massive operations at several places around the planet). at various times when something is going on ... i've had SSL certificates come back from the underlying webhosting facility ... rather the SSL certificate for the ibm server that I'm trying to connect to. there are lots of tricks played mapping URL to multiple different physical pieces of hardware .. (like load balancing, server with the least number of internet hops, etc). sometimes maintenance on all these pieces can get out of sync (as well as the setup for the alias identities for possible different physical boxes). complicating this was item a month or so ago about reports of attacks on some number of (well-known) SSL servers. -- 42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
I go to http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2 for my attempts. Just tried with Firefox and I.E. Both OK. Both end up at: https://www-304.ibm.com/usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp?persistPage=truepage=/ibmlinkPD-REFERER=noneerror= -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: What's with IBMLINK now?? Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
Sounds like classic internet redirection spoofing. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:30:38 -0500, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like classic internet redirection spoofing. [rant] Yeah but honestly I am a bit fedup with Ibmlink I cannot believe it is in the hands of professionals We do not have half of the problems on other professional sites or on the sites we manage ourselves. It looks like it is is in the hands of amateurs or first year students But we are customers and we bring billion dollars of revenue to big blue We deserve some respect [/rant] Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: What's with IBMLINK now?? I just deleted the bluecoat string from the address in the address window and got in, so the original URI apparently is still working. Makes me wonder where the bluecoat is coming from, and why. pause OK, just exited IBMLINK and re-entered via www.ibm.com/ibmlink, and got the normal www-304.ibm.com/. . . URI (no bluecoat). C'est la vie, I guess. -jc- SNIPPAGE I just battled with it. I logged on to deal with some ETRs and what it did was put me into the last SIS session I had, while giving me nasty grams that my session had timed out. So, I went to my bookmarks and clicked on that and instantly went to the menu screen I had expected. Then I signed out and back in again. And I got to play the same game again. Houston, I think you have a problem. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What's with IBMLINK now??
Classic? Its antiquated. With the proper edge servers, it is completely unnecessary to redirect to different host names for load balancing. IBM's practice of doing this is lame, and demonstrates that they don't know how to run a large scale web site. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:30 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like classic internet redirection spoofing. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: Hi, All, Apparently somebody at IBM is monkeying with the IBMLINK URI. When I try to go there via www.ibm.com/ibmlink my request gets redirected to www-304bluecoat.ibm.com/. . . instead of www-304.ibm.com/. . . . Firefox dutifully warns me: www-304bluecoat.ibm.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for www-304.ibm.com Anybody know for sure whether this bluecoat URI is the real deal? TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
