Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Issue
Hello, I tried using Sample.Lis to create to working dataset and it worked fine. But when I try with real data, it always gives me error that not able to locate file in specified address as below. I have report listing name of MVS.RMF.D234.lis in local resource and file is placed in C:\Documents and Settings\saukhand\Application Data\RMF\RMF Spreadsheet Reporter\rmflistings. Please suggest. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: > The Help is pretty good for each process. Back when we were running this, > new versions got pretty slack. Last time I tried it the File transfer thing > never would work and I couldn't get enough information to fix it(I think > Bob Shannon reported similar observations). The whole process is 'folder > based'. So once I got the sample thingy to work I just FTP'd the MVS > report > into the correct folder and everything was happy. I forget the limits of > EXCEL > but it runs out pretty quickly in a moderately sized environment. > > > In a message dated 9/29/2012 11:27:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com writes: > > The underlying window says 'Transferring the Report Listing' and the > progress bar keeps cycling from blank to full. When I click on OK the > message changes to 'Process failed' > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Thanks & Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
047 in TSO command processor
Hi, I am running a TSO command processor which needs to be APF authorized The load library is in PROG00 marked as APF authorized The command name is both in AUTHPGM and AUTHNAMES in IKJTSO00 I know that both PROG00 and IKJTSO00 are the active members how ever I stil get a 047 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Issue
The Help is pretty good for each process. Back when we were running this, new versions got pretty slack. Last time I tried it the File transfer thing never would work and I couldn't get enough information to fix it(I think Bob Shannon reported similar observations). The whole process is 'folder based'. So once I got the sample thingy to work I just FTP'd the MVS report into the correct folder and everything was happy. I forget the limits of EXCEL but it runs out pretty quickly in a moderately sized environment. In a message dated 9/29/2012 11:27:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com writes: The underlying window says 'Transferring the Report Listing' and the progress bar keeps cycling from blank to full. When I click on OK the message changes to 'Process failed' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
Mike Schwab wrote:
DCL LLIB(10) CHAR(44) INIT(' ');
Could have 10 blank literals seperated by commas?
DCL DISP(20) FIXED BIN(15) INIT(0);
Could have 20 zero literals seperated by commas?
String and coded-arithmetic initializations are somewhat different.
Here, to initialize all of the elements of both arrays, write
declare llib(20) character(44) initial((20)(1)' ') ;
declare disp(10) fixed binary(15,0) initial((20)0) ;
The first has three components: an element-repetition factor, a
string-repetition factor, and a string value. Since padding on the
right with blanks occurs anyway in character strings it is not
strictly necessary to write it so: but a better, more explicit version
of the first declaration would be
declare llib(20) character(44) initial((20)(44)' ') ;
in which the initial specification is in effect: initialize each of
the 20 elements of this array with 44 instances of a single blank
concatenated together. Or again one could write,
declare llib(20) character(44)
initial((20)(1)'') /*
44 blanks */ ;
But note that even here the string repetition factor must appear.
The code as it stands initializes only the first element of each array.
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RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Issue
Hello Group, Does anyone know the solution to this problem? I've created a listing dataset on the host and when I try to create a working set from it I get a message window which says : Report for specified options cannot be found in Report Listing ... The underlying window says 'Transferring the Report Listing' and the progress bar keeps cycling from blank to full. When I click on OK the message changes to 'Process failed' I have noticed that same problem has been posted in IBM main before but not solution has been provided. Please suggest. -- Thanks & Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
Here is the library page for Enterprise PL/I
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/pli/plizos/library/
The Compiler and Run time migration books should contain what changes
you need between versions.
There is a DCL STR BUILTIN, but it is not actually refered to by
anything. You can remove it.
DCL LLIB(10) CHAR(44) INIT(' ');
Could have 10 blank literals seperated by commas?
DCL DISP(20) FIXED BIN(15) INIT(0);
Could have 20 zero literals seperated by commas?
Looks like there is some missing code in LOAD_DIR: PROC;
This is routine to read a PDS directory, and P is an pointer within
the directory block.
But I don't see a definition or how the pointer is assigned.
('DCL 1 ENTRY BASED(P), ' but you don't define P
DCL P POINTER; should be added.)
After the read and before the loop, the P should be set to the start
of the block, then at the end of the loop it should be incremented to
the next entry, or to read the next block.
Not quite sure what to add here.
Perhaps this was the last saved version, they fixed it out of their
personal library and didn't save the final version. If they have a
printed version, you could rekey the changes.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Cifani, Domenic wrote:
> Tony
>
> I attached the code and compile msgs. The user told me that the last
> compile may have been completed years ago.
>
> Domenic
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Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
The option choices NOSOURCE, etc., etc., would almost seem to have been designed to make it impossible for us to help you. Change the option NOSOURCE to SOURCE and let us know what kind of target mainframe the program is to be executed on so that we can recommend an alternative to ARCH(5). --jg On 9/29/12, Cifani, Domenic wrote: > Tony > > I attached the code and compile msgs. The user told me that the last > compile may have been completed years ago. > > Domenic > > Domenic Cifani > Technology Consultant III > Network Software Canada > HP Enterprise Services > Telephone (905) 383-7864 > HP Cell (905) 869-3279 > Email domenic.cif...@hp.com > 242 Upper Mount Albion RD Unit 12 Stoney Creek On L8J 0B1 > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tony Harminc > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 4:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols > > On 28 September 2012 16:13, Cifani, Domenic wrote: > >> I have a user running PL/I implementation in Endevor, and the PL/1 compile >> step has a return code=008. I don't have much experience with this, does >> anyone who what libraries need to be added to the SYSLIB concatenation for >> the unresolved symbols? > > I suggest that you should fix your compile-time errors before > worrying about unresolved modules at bind time. But posting only the > error messages is not very helpful. Please post the actual statements > that provoke them. > > As for the IEW messages, you need to have the Language Environment > modules available to the binder. These are typically in CEE.SCEELKED, > but you should not just stick that library in and assume that > everything will be fine. > > Tony H. > >> 5655-W67 IBM(R) Enterprise PL/I for z/OS /* >> 2012.09.28 13:13:12 Page >> 4 >> Compiler Messages >> Message Line.File Message Description >> IBM1389I E 13.0The identifier STR is not the name of a >> built-in >> function. The BUILTIN attribute will be >> ignored. >> IBM1482I E 13.0The variable STR is declared without any data >> attributes. >> IBM1300I E 222.0P is contextually declared as POINTER. >> IBM1208I W 25.0INITIAL list for the array LLIB contains only >> one >> item. >> IBM1208I W 38.0INITIAL list for the array DISP contains only >> one >> item. >> IBM1058I I 239.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be >> done by >> library call. >> IBM2812I I 242.0Argument number 2 to VERIFY built-in would lead >> to >> much better code if declared with the VALUE >> attribute. >> IBM1058I I 252.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be >> done by >> library call. >> File Reference Table >> FileIncluded From Name >>0 ASMS.DEV1TEST.STAGE1.PLI($PK2A) >> ComponentReturn CodeMessages (Total/Suppressed)Time >> Compiler 88 / 0 1 secs >> End of compilation of $PK2A >> z/OS V1 R13 BINDER 13:13:14 FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 >> BATCH EMULATOR JOB(VAN7032@) STEP(NDVRBAT ) PGM= IEWL >> IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - XREF >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEBETBL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEROOTA UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEOPIPI UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQEFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFWR UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFOP UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFRD UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQCPBX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFNT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFPT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPOFCX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPINPL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED >> FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. >> IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEESG011 UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDE
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
Some additional questions 1) Did you recently upgrade the compiler? yes If yes, are the options same as before the upgrade? yes 2) When was the last time this program was compiled correctly? From what im told from the user several years 3) What source changes were made that required this compile? No source changes were made. Thanks Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf > Of Cifani, Domenic > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols > > Hi > > I have a user running PL/I implementation in Endevor, and the PL/1 compile step has a > return code=008. I don't have much experience with this, does anyone who what > libraries need to be added to the SYSLIB concatenation for the unresolved symbols? > > Domenic > > 5655-W67 IBM(R) Enterprise PL/I for z/OS /* > 2012.09.28 13:13:12 Page 4 > Compiler Messages > Message Line.File Message Description > IBM1389I E 13.0The identifier STR is not the name of a built-in > function. The BUILTIN attribute will be ignored. > IBM1482I E 13.0The variable STR is declared without any data > attributes. > IBM1300I E 222.0P is contextually declared as POINTER. > IBM1208I W 25.0INITIAL list for the array LLIB contains only one > item. > IBM1208I W 38.0INITIAL list for the array DISP contains only one > item. > IBM1058I I 239.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by > library call. > IBM2812I I 242.0Argument number 2 to VERIFY built-in would lead to > much better code if declared with the VALUE > attribute. > IBM1058I I 252.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by > library call. > File Reference Table > FileIncluded From Name >0 ASMS.DEV1TEST.STAGE1.PLI($PK2A) > ComponentReturn CodeMessages (Total/Suppressed)Time > Compiler 88 / 0 1 secs > End of compilation of $PK2A > z/OS V1 R13 BINDER 13:13:14 FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 > BATCH EMULATOR JOB(VAN7032@) STEP(NDVRBAT ) PGM= IEWL IEW2278I B352 > INVOCATION PARAMETERS - XREF IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEBETBL UNRESOLVED. > MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEROOTA UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEOPIPI UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQEFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFWR UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE > INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFOP UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFRD UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQCPBX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFNT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFPT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPOFCX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPINPL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEESG011 UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY.CALL LIBRARY. > > Domenic Cifani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
Some additional questions 1) Did you recently upgrade the compiler? If yes, are the options same as before the upgrade? 2) When was the last time this program was compiled correctly? 3) What source changes were made that required this compile? Thanks Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf > Of Cifani, Domenic > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols > > Hi > > I have a user running PL/I implementation in Endevor, and the PL/1 compile step has a > return code=008. I don't have much experience with this, does anyone who what > libraries need to be added to the SYSLIB concatenation for the unresolved symbols? > > Domenic > > 5655-W67 IBM(R) Enterprise PL/I for z/OS /* > 2012.09.28 13:13:12 Page 4 > Compiler Messages > Message Line.File Message Description > IBM1389I E 13.0The identifier STR is not the name of a built-in > function. The BUILTIN attribute will be ignored. > IBM1482I E 13.0The variable STR is declared without any data > attributes. > IBM1300I E 222.0P is contextually declared as POINTER. > IBM1208I W 25.0INITIAL list for the array LLIB contains only one > item. > IBM1208I W 38.0INITIAL list for the array DISP contains only one > item. > IBM1058I I 239.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by > library call. > IBM2812I I 242.0Argument number 2 to VERIFY built-in would lead to > much better code if declared with the VALUE > attribute. > IBM1058I I 252.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by > library call. > File Reference Table > FileIncluded From Name >0 ASMS.DEV1TEST.STAGE1.PLI($PK2A) > ComponentReturn CodeMessages (Total/Suppressed)Time > Compiler 88 / 0 1 secs > End of compilation of $PK2A > z/OS V1 R13 BINDER 13:13:14 FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 > BATCH EMULATOR JOB(VAN7032@) STEP(NDVRBAT ) PGM= IEWL IEW2278I B352 > INVOCATION PARAMETERS - XREF IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEBETBL UNRESOLVED. > MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEROOTA UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEOPIPI UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQEFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFWR UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE > INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFOP UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFRD UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQCPBX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFNT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFPT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPOFCX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPINPL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. > IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEESG011 UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED > FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY.CALL LIBRARY. > > Domenic Cifani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
My guess is that this is an older PL/1 programm which has previously been compiled (successfully?) by another compiler using other compile options. Especially the message concerning the pointer P was IMO not an error during the former compiles. DCL P PTR; should help. The same goes for the BUILTIN function STR. This may have been misspelled, but there may well have been a function called STR in another implementation of PL/1. I would take a look at the source and try to guess what the function STR is supposed to do. These are the only errors, as far as I see, which lead to the RC of 8 in the compile step. Kind regards Bernd Am 28.09.2012 22:13, schrieb Cifani, Domenic: Hi I have a user running PL/I implementation in Endevor, and the PL/1 compile step has a return code=008. I don't have much experience with this, does anyone who what libraries need to be added to the SYSLIB concatenation for the unresolved symbols? Domenic 5655-W67 IBM(R) Enterprise PL/I for z/OS /* 2012.09.28 13:13:12 Page 4 Compiler Messages Message Line.File Message Description IBM1389I E 13.0The identifier STR is not the name of a built-in function. The BUILTIN attribute will be ignored. IBM1482I E 13.0The variable STR is declared without any data attributes. IBM1300I E 222.0P is contextually declared as POINTER. IBM1208I W 25.0INITIAL list for the array LLIB contains only one item. IBM1208I W 38.0INITIAL list for the array DISP contains only one item. IBM1058I I 239.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by library call. IBM2812I I 242.0Argument number 2 to VERIFY built-in would lead to much better code if declared with the VALUE attribute. IBM1058I I 252.0Conversion from BIT to FIXED BIN(31) will be done by library call. File Reference Table FileIncluded From Name 0 ASMS.DEV1TEST.STAGE1.PLI($PK2A) ComponentReturn CodeMessages (Total/Suppressed)Time Compiler 88 / 0 1 secs End of compilation of $PK2A z/OS V1 R13 BINDER 13:13:14 FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 28, 2012 BATCH EMULATOR JOB(VAN7032@) STEP(NDVRBAT ) PGM= IEWL IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - XREF IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEBETBL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEROOTA UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEEOPIPI UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQEFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFWR UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFOP UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFRD UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQCPBX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFSH UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFNT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMQOFPT UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPOFCX UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL IBMPINPL UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY. IEW2456E 9207 SYMBOL CEESG011 UNRESOLVED. MEMBER COULD NOT BE INCLUDED FROM THE DESIGNATED CALL LIBRARY.CALL LIBRARY. Domenic Cifani Technology Consultant III Network Software Canada HP Enterprise Services Telephone (905) 383-7864 HP Cell (905) 869-3279 Email domenic.cif...@hp.com 242 Upper Mount Albion RD Unit 12 Stoney Creek On L8J 0B1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Another Light goes out
We should be able to agree that a license to run the .NET Framework is (currently) available at no additional charge when you purchase a license for a suitable Microsoft Windows product. Not free -- no additional charge. Is this distinction overly pedantic? I agree with Shmuel Metz and John McKown: it is a very important distinction. Note that the .NET Framework is *both* bundled with Windows products and available for download. (Downloading is for older versions of Windows and/or for version updates.) Also, I was nodding in agreement with John McKown up until he wrote that "most successful migration projects [from mainframes] deliver a positive ROI." (Or is John being ironic in his use of the word "successful"?) Some much smarter people than I who've looked at this question, repeatedly, can't get the numbers to work in most cases. I've looked at their analyses, and they're quite careful in properly allocating costs. A bit more often you can make the ROI weakly positive if you stretch out the analysis period to, say, a century. But it's pretty tough otherwise. And that's typically without incorporating proper risk adjustments. It's quite common for migration projects (of any sort) to have significant cost overruns. It's fair to say that the vast bulk of mainframe shops are running them for very good reasons, including financial reasons. I'm beginning to wonder if good cost accounting and financial analysis are lost arts in many "western" corporations, in the "production" and "production-related" portions of their businesses. For many decades now the best and the brightest financial wizards have been going into banking -- to work on Wall Street and in The City. So they're applying their smarts to very different optimization problems, such as squeezing a few more points out of derivatives trades -- or inventing increasingly more exotic derivatives. That's my hypothesis, although that's after watching an internal (now public) Bain Capital video yesterday. :-) In all seriousness, though, I wonder whether there are too many smart people engaged in unproductive rent seeking. Timothy Sipples Consulting Enterprise IT Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
