Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. In this case, there's no great mystery: we have solid wage/salary data in most developed countries. For example, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) publishes wage data annually by occupation. Even Forbes should be able to understand basic price theory. So let's take a look together, shall we? As background, BLS publishes its Occupational Employment Statistics based on the month of May each year. The most recent data are from May, 2014, as I write this. You can find BLS's OES statistics here: http://www.bls.gov/oes/tables.htm So let's look at the National median salaries for occupational group 15-, Computer and Mathematical Occupations. For reference, less than 4% of that occupational category consists of the second part (Mathematical Occupations), so we're really looking at IT occupations here with reasonable precision. Here are the median nominal wages (month of May each year, annualized) for the past 10 years along with nominal growth percentages year to year: 2014: $79,420 (+2.0%) 2013: $77,860 (+2.1%) 2012: $76,270 (+1.6%) 2011: $75,080 (+1.8%) 2010: $73,720 (+1.1%) 2009: $72,900 (+2.3%) 2008: $71,270 (+3.2%) 2007: $69,070 (+4.4%) 2006: $66,130 (+3.4%) 2005: $63,940 Also for reference, if you take the 2005 figure ($63,940) and plug it into BLS's Consumer Price Index inflation calculator, the 2014 figure would be $77,506. Thus the 2014 median wage in this occupational category is less than 2.5% above what the CPI-U inflation rate would predict if wages merely kept pace with inflation. As we can also see the rate of median wage increase in this occupational category has generally slowed over the past few years. I should also point out an important footnote: it appears that these statistics assume a fixed number of hours worked per year. There is some evidence that hours worked per year have increased somewhat over this time period. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. We could also look at productivity data -- perhaps one could argue that employers are getting less output for the same wage input -- but (to summarize briefly) the productivity statistics argue the opposite. My views are my own, as always here. The statistics are the Bureau's. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CICS Upgrade
Samat, I have included a link to the CICS TS product documentation. Here you will find PDFs which cover migrating to the current release from many different levels. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.2.0/com.ibm.cics.proddoc.doc/topics/PDF.html Hope this gives you a start. Cheers, Tom On 7/2/2015 4:30 AM, zos reader wrote: Hi All, We are planning to Upgrade CICS 3.1 to current level in our Shop running on z/OS 1.13. Can someone help me by sharing any manuals or documents or any ideas for upgrading CICS. Since i am from z/OS background and CICS guy is on Medical leave and we are in need in implementing on Sandbox before August. Appreciate your help on this Thanks, Samat -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- ___ Regards, Thomas DunlapChief Technology Officert...@themisinc.com Themis, Inc.http://www.themisinc.com1 (800) 756-3000 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:38:31 +0100, Toni Cecil wrote: Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their applications. That's a living. No, not strange at all - customers ask for the damnest things. These sort of questions belong to the days of real spinning DASD, not modern storage controllers. If your clients are prepared to accept that as evidence, well and good. I stand by my previous post. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EMCS Console identities
In SDSF, you can set the console name using Set Console name from the Options drop down or by using the primary command SET CONSOLE x -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Terry Sambrooks Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EMCS Console identities Hi I ned advice on where to look for information on how the names of an EMCS Console is assigned, as the manuals and Google searches have not helped much. The situation I have is that the name of the EMCS console which gets assigned when I start an SDSF session under TSO is different to the TSO Userid. This has probably been happening for some time but I have only just noticed it. It doesn't cause a problem but is confusing when I issue an MVS Command from SDSF, and the IEA630I message which indicates the EMCS session is open contains a different userid. (I am wondering if could relate in some way to the use of RACF variable for command authorisation.) Kind Regards - Terry Director KMS-IT Limited 228 Abbeydale Road South Dore Sheffield S17 3LA UK Reg : 3767263 Outgoing e-mails have been scanned, but it is the recipients responsibility to ensure their anti-virus software is up to date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Rocket Software, Inc. and subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA 02451 ■ +1 800.966.3270 ■ +1 781.577.4321 Unsubscribe From Commercial Email – unsubscr...@rocketsoftware.com Manage Your Subscription Preferences - http://info.rocketsoftware.com/GlobalSubscriptionManagementEmailFooter_SubscriptionCenter.html Privacy Policy - http://www.rocketsoftware.com/company/legal/privacy-policy This communication and any attachments may contain confidential information of Rocket Software, Inc. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Rocket Software immediately and destroy all copies of this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
EMCS Console identities
Hi I ned advice on where to look for information on how the names of an EMCS Console is assigned, as the manuals and Google searches have not helped much. The situation I have is that the name of the EMCS console which gets assigned when I start an SDSF session under TSO is different to the TSO Userid. This has probably been happening for some time but I have only just noticed it. It doesn't cause a problem but is confusing when I issue an MVS Command from SDSF, and the IEA630I message which indicates the EMCS session is open contains a different userid. (I am wondering if could relate in some way to the use of RACF variable for command authorisation.) Kind Regards - Terry Director KMS-IT Limited 228 Abbeydale Road South Dore Sheffield S17 3LA UK Reg : 3767263 Outgoing e-mails have been scanned, but it is the recipients responsibility to ensure their anti-virus software is up to date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?
Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their applications. That's a living. Regards, A.Cecilio. 2015-06-27 5:47 GMT+01:00 Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au: I've decided to use RMF: DINTV(2400) That's like asking for the average speed for all the taxi drivers in a company over an entire day. It might be the one number you may have been asked for, but it's useless. You need to educate your users/managers. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
CICS Upgrade
Hi All, We are planning to Upgrade CICS 3.1 to current level in our Shop running on z/OS 1.13. Can someone help me by sharing any manuals or documents or any ideas for upgrading CICS. Since i am from z/OS background and CICS guy is on Medical leave and we are in need in implementing on Sandbox before August. Appreciate your help on this Thanks, Samat -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:27:27 +, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! ;-) editing in vi is easy - getting out of the session is the challenge. As for emacs, the origin should be somewhere above the proficiency level of vi. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?
Toni, Just some observations on today's storage array and DASD Volumes. And some points to consider when doing DASD response time analysis. Basically, DASD is emulated across flash/spinning disk in a storage array. The only difference, in my understanding, is the size of the volume and how the storage array is behaving. Going back to my point earlier. A storage array (IBM, HDS, EMC, etc.) is pretending to be the old fashion spinning disk. It is really emulating that size disk inside the array. So when you create a MOD3/9/27/54 it is laid out across spinning disk or flash drives across the storage array. You use ICKDSF to initialize a 3390 Mod3. This creates a picture of 3339 cylinders for that dasd volume. It looks like a 3390 Mod3 when you display the volume. However, in the Storage Array, it is actually spread out over multiple spinning/flash disk. This does not take up any storage at that point. Later a dataset is created on that volume. The Storage array assigns tracks to your volume from the free pool. And this process continues until all 3339 cylinders are assigned - making it a full 3390 Mod3 volume. This is why the storage used for the volumes may not match the storage you have actually allocated for volumes within the Storage Array. Due to this process you have to be careful about over subscription of the storage array. It is not hard to have a 550 GB storage array that has 1000 Mod 54's created. At some point the Storage array will complain there is insufficient storage to allocate another dataset because the storage array is full. That is why I asked if you needed to know about how the storage array was working as well as how z/OS was seeing the response time. Currently I have an EMC VMAX40K. It is made up of all volume sizes. I have both flash and spinning disk inside the array. When I use EMC Unisphere to look at the performance of the storage array I do not see any hot spots which means the array is performing very well. I now go look at the RMF reports. They show acceptable performance from z/OS's perspective of how the DASD is performing. So overall both areas are showing good dasd performance report. I had an older VMAX device before that was not doing well on the inside, but z/OS was not reporting issues. We had to add more engines, memory and disk and then rebalance the array so it was performing optimally again. Depending on what your clients expect. You should have little difference on the size of dasd for access. Also, the virtual MOD3/9/27/54 are not full volumes until you fill up the volume. So you may have created a Mod 3 with 3339 cylinders. But if only 100 cylinders of it has been used, then that is all that is on that volume. It is not until you create enough data on the volume that it will fill out to 3339 cylinders. So the DASD only uses the amount of storage it has. Not what you think it is created as. Same with Virtual tape. Since the Storage Array performs very well in emulating disk, I would think that would leave most I/O and response time questions to other areas of exploration. How does the application handle the I/O? Do I have enough engines and memory and controllers inside the Storage Array for the workload? Do I have enough paths to the dasd from z/OS side (Hyperpavs)? Do you have Hyperpavs for the disk? Do you have SLAs for dasd performance? Have you seen any increase in response time to any application? Are you using MIDAW? Do you share your Storage Array with open system functions? That can impact your response time. Some of my triggers that dasd may not be performing well is the Health Checker for CMR Response time, the DB2 DBAs saying the response time on their DB2 Response time is questionable, or my review of the Unisphere shows Hot Spots. How do your clients perceive an issue for their applications for dasd issues? What is the response time they expect? Yes - I always give my clients what they ask for. But in the background, I am monitoring other areas that are better able to predict issues for dasd response time. This may fall under SaaS (Storage as a Service) - and there are a lot of detail on the internet for this concept. Bottom line - you should not see any impact due to device size. It is emulated and all being handled by the storage array. If you do see a difference it may be due to hot spots, lack of memory/buffers, engines/cpus, or other elements within the storage array. Hope this helps Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Toni Cecil Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ? Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Similar in style, correctness, and entertainment value is the following (whose topic does not necessarily pertain to the list); http://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg I remember using it once to describe the learning curve associated with z/OS to college students getting ready to pick optionals. _Jan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: donderdag 2 juli 2015 5:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: OT: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors OK, nothing about z/OS, but still both amusing and somewhat true. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI4TUTMWEAAXiog.png:large -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
Jan, I took the comic as just the opposite. The learning curve for VI is very high right from the beginning, in that you have to learn a lot about vi before you can do anything with it. I know the first time (several times???) I was exposed to vi by thoughts were along the lines of what were they smoking when they came up with this thing? :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cannaerts, Jan Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Similar in style, correctness, and entertainment value is the following (whose topic does not necessarily pertain to the list); http://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg I remember using it once to describe the learning curve associated with z/OS to college students getting ready to pick optionals. _Jan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: donderdag 2 juli 2015 5:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: OT: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors OK, nothing about z/OS, but still both amusing and somewhat true. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI4TUTMWEAAXiog.png:large -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
On 2015-07-02, at 07:27, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Pedant! But, yes, that's exactly what the graph shows, but perhaps the opposite of what the artist intended. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve#In_culture I could care less. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ?
Statistics can always show what you think you want. But, showing 24-hour averages doesn't prove a lack of performance impact. You're doing your customers a disservice if you don't demonstrate the impact during peak times. 10-15 minute duration. - -teD - Original Message From: Toni Cecil Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 05:38 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: z/OS DASD: Way to gather DASD Response Time ? Hi Shane, it might sound strange to you, but we need to demonstrate to one our clients that moving data from mod3, or mod9 to mod27 didn't cause any dasd performance problems for their applications. That's a living. Regards, A.Cecilio. 2015-06-27 5:47 GMT+01:00 Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au: I've decided to use RMF: DINTV(2400) That's like asking for the average speed for all the taxi drivers in a company over an entire day. It might be the one number you may have been asked for, but it's useless. You need to educate your users/managers. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Leap Second today!
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:30:16 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: On the red Hat page Linus Torvil tries to explain that much of the application software was designed and built in an ERA(1999-2005) that had no leap seconds. 'It's always something' R. Rosanadan ??? The first (two?) leap seconds were in 1972. Diachronicity provides no excuse. In a message dated 7/1/2015 10:52:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hal9001 writes: A better solution would be to have the program read a record with the date of the next leap second (once it is announced - there is adequate warning to update the record. ... It's even easier than that. On a Linux system, play with the entries in /usr/share/zoneinfo/right and localtime(). Cygwin similar with different pathname. The hard part is that POSIX intrudes. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Downgrading ENQ
I believe that prior to z/OS 2.1 the enqueue would *never* be downgraded. This is also the default behavior in z/OS 2.1. However in z.OS 2.1 the option to downgrade the enqueue exists with some JCL changes. I haven't looked for the JCL keywords/syntax, but here is a quote from the z/OS 2.1 Announcement letter. quote z/OS V2.1 Global Resource Serialization (GRS) supports synchronously changing an exclusive enqueue to a shared enqueue, in addition to the existing support for changing an enqueue from shared to exclusive. Corresponding support is available in JCL for a new JOB statement keyword to enable you to specify that access to data sets can transition from exclusive to shared after the last step in which they are allocated with a disposition of OLD, NEW, or MOD. Also, support is available for a JES2 initialization statement to specify whether this function should be allowed, and whether it should be used by default if not specified in JCL. This function is intended to permit more parallelism in resource processing by allowing resources to be available for read access before the process that originally requested exclusive use ends in single-system and GRS Star environments. /quote HTH, snip Suppose: ALLOCATE DD(DDSHR) DSN(FOO.BAR) SHR There is now an ENQ SHR SYSDSN FOO.BAR Then: ALLOCATE DD(DDEXC) DSN(FOO.BAR) OLD The ENQ is upgraded to EXC ... some stuff ... Then: FREE DD(DDEXC) is the ENQ downgraded back to SHR? Why or why not? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Downgrading ENQ
Suppose: ALLOCATE DD(DDSHR) DSN(FOO.BAR) SHR There is now an ENQ SHR SYSDSN FOO.BAR Then: ALLOCATE DD(DDEXC) DSN(FOO.BAR) OLD The ENQ is upgraded to EXC ... some stuff ... Then: FREE DD(DDEXC) is the ENQ downgraded back to SHR? Why or why not? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
vi takes me back to the days of TSO line EDIT via teletype before the days of 3270 and SPF. A nasty port from MVS to Unix??? ;-) Mike Wawiorko Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this e-mail or its attachments. Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. Barclays Bank PLC. Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. Barclays Bank PLC is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority (Financial Services Register No. 122702). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
I learned programming in high school on one of those. involuntary_shudder/ -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. ~ attributed to Mark Twain -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Wawiorko Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors vi takes me back to the days of TSO line EDIT via teletype before the days of 3270 and SPF. A nasty port from MVS to Unix??? ;-) Mike Wawiorko P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this e-mail or its attachments. Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. Barclays Bank PLC. Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. Barclays Bank PLC is authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority (Financial Services Register No. 122702). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Funny learning curve for various, UNIX, editors
For me, the graph is correct as long as you assume the vertical scale is really low. I learned about 20 commands the first day I used vi, and I still only know about 20 commands - 10 years later. Cannaerts, Jan wrote: Wow, anyone that touches Vi is instantly proficient and insanely productive with it! Similar in style, correctness, and entertainment value is the following (whose topic does not necessarily pertain to the list); http://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg I remember using it once to describe the learning curve associated with z/OS to college students getting ready to pick optionals. _Jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. Which makes IBM's response to Senator Charles Grassley even more preposterous: The high skilled visa programs provide a limited but necessary means for IBM to meet the near to medium term needs of its U.S clients and our own business. The technology industry's shift to new, higher value growth areas such as cloud, analytics, mobile, security and social technologies is placing a greater premium on a new set of skills. These changes are exacerbating the skills shortage that we discussed with you during your 2013 visit to IBM's Dubuque center. We bring goreign workers to the U.S. because those workers have specific profiles and expertise that we cannot source locally in a timely way to fulfill client contract requirements. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
The REAL reason they bring foreign workers to the U.S. is because they can pay them LESS money to do the work. Thank You. Len Sasso RDC Applications Management - Professional: System Administrator Backup QMR - Production Operations CSC Vacation Alert: ? 327 Columbia TPKE, Rensselaer NY 12144 NES | t: 518.257-4209 | m: 518-894-0879 | f: 257-4300 | lsa...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 11:49 AM Subject:Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. Which makes IBM's response to Senator Charles Grassley even more preposterous: The high skilled visa programs provide a limited but necessary means for IBM to meet the near to medium term needs of its U.S clients and our own business. The technology industry's shift to new, higher value growth areas such as cloud, analytics, mobile, security and social technologies is placing a greater premium on a new set of skills. These changes are exacerbating the skills shortage that we discussed with you during your 2013 visit to IBM's Dubuque center. We bring goreign workers to the U.S. because those workers have specific profiles and expertise that we cannot source locally in a timely way to fulfill client contract requirements. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE
So a few options. Buy product from DTS Software called SRS/ACC - easy control through these products If ALL users, then ACS code or ALLOCxx If Some users, then maybe an Allocation Exit. Lizette -Original Message- From: Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com Sent: Jul 2, 2015 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:14:05 -0500 Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: :http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam900/bv1184w.htm Yes, I recognize that is the normal behavior. I do not want it. :When the secondary extent is specified as zero for a PDS to PDSE copy, the secondary extent is set to one unit of the space unit that is specified as the primary allocation, to allow the copy to proceed. A PDSE is likely to run slightly larger than a PDS, and the user might not have allocated the PDSE any larger. At the end of processing, the secondary extent is set back to zero. :On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Binyamin Dissen :bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: : But I do not want it to be set/increased. : How can I force it so that secondary extents are not allocated? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: Help finding on-line SAS training
Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online class, something like: MS SYSTEMS TECHNICAL TRAINING INTRODUCTION TO SAS WORKSHOP. I think its three days. I Looked online and found I must have a group of three people to even get started in looking at on-line education. OK, but who provides a good SAS class? I called one place and it sure sounded like I wound up off-shore :( Others require a running copy of SAS on my PC, but I have no admin rights. It would be great if they had a discount for us government types, and hopefully I can have some kind of text book in hardcopy to reference at the completion of the course. Many thanks in advance, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training
If you are familiar with SAS, then I would just get some of their books and study. otherwise WWW.SAS.COME/TRAINING Lots of virtual, e training and physical classroom there. they have eliminated some of their training session and added others. probably that one is either different or not available. I have also sent emails directly to sas training to find out if a class is available or not. There use to be SAS Le (LEARNING EDITION) but SAS has scrapped that for Universities/Colleges to provide the access. I have been told more than one - go take a college course from SAS Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online class, something like: MS SYSTEMS TECHNICAL TRAINING INTRODUCTION TO SAS WORKSHOP. I think its three days. I Looked online and found I must have a group of three people to even get started in looking at on-line education. OK, but who provides a good SAS class? I called one place and it sure sounded like I wound up off-shore :( Others require a running copy of SAS on my PC, but I have no admin rights. It would be great if they had a discount for us government types, and hopefully I can have some kind of text book in hardcopy to reference at the completion of the course. Many thanks in advance, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training
Thank you, Lizette. Haven't opened up a book yet. It's a direction and our education must be formal, not just YouTube contributions. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube. They just recently let us have access to YouTube. Have a great weekend, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training If you are familiar with SAS, then I would just get some of their books and study. otherwise WWW.SAS.COME/TRAINING Lots of virtual, e training and physical classroom there. they have eliminated some of their training session and added others. probably that one is either different or not available. I have also sent emails directly to sas training to find out if a class is available or not. There use to be SAS Le (LEARNING EDITION) but SAS has scrapped that for Universities/Colleges to provide the access. I have been told more than one - go take a college course from SAS Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online class, something like: MS SYSTEMS TECHNICAL TRAINING INTRODUCTION TO SAS WORKSHOP. I think its three days. I Looked online and found I must have a group of three people to even get started in looking at on-line education. OK, but who provides a good SAS class? I called one place and it sure sounded like I wound up off-shore :( Others require a running copy of SAS on my PC, but I have no admin rights. It would be great if they had a discount for us government types, and hopefully I can have some kind of text book in hardcopy to reference at the completion of the course. Many thanks in advance, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training
Dave, Best of luck. You only have the selection that is on the sas training website. Not much else out there other than universities/colleges Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training Thank you, Lizette. Haven't opened up a book yet. It's a direction and our education must be formal, not just YouTube contributions. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube. They just recently let us have access to YouTube. Have a great weekend, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training If you are familiar with SAS, then I would just get some of their books and study. otherwise WWW.SAS.COME/TRAINING Lots of virtual, e training and physical classroom there. they have eliminated some of their training session and added others. probably that one is either different or not available. I have also sent emails directly to sas training to find out if a class is available or not. There use to be SAS Le (LEARNING EDITION) but SAS has scrapped that for Universities/Colleges to provide the access. I have been told more than one - go take a college course from SAS Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online class, something like: MS SYSTEMS TECHNICAL TRAINING INTRODUCTION TO SAS WORKSHOP. I think its three days. I Looked online and found I must have a group of three people to even get started in looking at on-line education. OK, but who provides a good SAS class? I called one place and it sure sounded like I wound up off-shore :( Others require a running copy of SAS on my PC, but I have no admin rights. It would be great if they had a discount for us government types, and hopefully I can have some kind of text book in hardcopy to reference at the completion of the course. Many thanks in advance, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not amp;WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Just to be clear: you are only interested in temporary data sets where the system generated the name? You do not care about temporary data sets where the user specified the name fully, by using something like: DSNAME=X.Y,DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=... If you really want ALL temporary data sets then you cannot definitively find them by name. It would help if we knew what you were really trying to accomplish :) -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Why not go after volumes / storage group where OS-temps are? Rob Schramm On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 8:12 PM Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not amp;WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Just to be clear: you are only interested in temporary data sets where the system generated the name? You do not care about temporary data sets where the user specified the name fully, by using something like: DSNAME=X.Y,DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=... If you really want ALL temporary data sets then you cannot definitively find them by name. It would help if we knew what you were really trying to accomplish :) -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Leap Second today!
It depends on how much a z/OS site needs, or doesn't need, precise timing. Server Timer Protocol can add a leap second at the appropriate time (goes into a wait for the second), or it can gradually 'steer' the time over seven hours, gradually correcting the system time. Attached is nice document that explains STP's handling of leap seconds in fairly gentle terms. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=tss1wp102081aid=1 So the answer to both questions isn't necessarily Yes, and that's not necessarily a bug. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, 3 July 2015 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Leap Second today! On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:36:26 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: Yikes. Too much hasenpfeffer... http://www.wired.com/2012/07/leap-second-glitch-explained/ In my time zone, the leap second occurred at 17:59:60. So, I wonder about the z/OS STIMER macro: If, at 17:59:59 I had issued STIMER WAIT,LT=[18:000:01] would the wait have expired in 3 seconds? If, at 17:59:59 I had issued STIMER WAIT,BINTVL=[3 seconds] would the wait have expired at 18:00:01? Unless the answer to both questions is Yes, there's a bug. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Leap Second today!
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:36:26 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: Yikes. Too much hasenpfeffer... http://www.wired.com/2012/07/leap-second-glitch-explained/ In my time zone, the leap second occurred at 17:59:60. So, I wonder about the z/OS STIMER macro: If, at 17:59:59 I had issued STIMER WAIT,LT=[18:000:01] would the wait have expired in 3 seconds? If, at 17:59:59 I had issued STIMER WAIT,BINTVL=[3 seconds] would the wait have expired at 18:00:01? Unless the answer to both questions is Yes, there's a bug. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CICS Upgrade
Thanks Tom.! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Dunlap thomas.dun...@att.net wrote: Samat, I have included a link to the CICS TS product documentation. Here you will find PDFs which cover migrating to the current release from many different levels. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGMCP_5.2.0/com.ibm.cics.proddoc.doc/topics/PDF.html Hope this gives you a start. Cheers, Tom On 7/2/2015 4:30 AM, zos reader wrote: Hi All, We are planning to Upgrade CICS 3.1 to current level in our Shop running on z/OS 1.13. Can someone help me by sharing any manuals or documents or any ideas for upgrading CICS. Since i am from z/OS background and CICS guy is on Medical leave and we are in need in implementing on Sandbox before August. Appreciate your help on this Thanks, Samat -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- ___ Regards, Thomas DunlapChief Technology Officert...@themisinc.com Themis, Inc.http://www.themisinc.com1 (800) 756-3000 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
SMF 15 reports a dataset output CLOSE. SMF 42 reports a member update or delete. Is this a file integrity event? Is this worth correlating, or is it noise? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not amp;WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Just to be clear: you are only interested in temporary data sets where the system generated the name? You do not care about temporary data sets where the user specified the name fully, by using something like: DSNAME=X.Y,DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=... If you really want ALL temporary data sets then you cannot definitively find them by name. It would help if we knew what you were really trying to accomplish :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
At 14:25 -0700 on 07/02/2015, Charles Mills wrote about Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by n: Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on SYSHELLO.THEATRE.RA000.FOO.BAR but I would think you are kind of asking for trouble if you name your dataset that. Charles Why not SYS15%%%.T%%.RA000.** ? Change the 15 to 16 next year. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
I've heard that L1 visas are a way around H1B visa limits. -Original Message- From: Dana Mitchell [mailto:mitchd...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. Which makes IBM's response to Senator Charles Grassley even more preposterous: The high skilled visa programs provide a limited but necessary means for IBM to meet the near to medium term needs of its U.S clients and our own business. The technology industry's shift to new, higher value growth areas such as cloud, analytics, mobile, security and social technologies is placing a greater premium on a new set of skills. These changes are exacerbating the skills shortage that we discussed with you during your 2013 visit to IBM's Dubuque center. We bring goreign workers to the U.S. because those workers have specific profiles and expertise that we cannot source locally in a timely way to fulfill client contract requirements. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE
But I do not want it to be set/increased. How can I force it so that secondary extents are not allocated? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES Hallo All, I am stuck with trying to figure out how I can code the variable for a Batch userid. For examle users aren't allowed to create a PDSe. I thought by coding the condition for the user's batch id it would solve the problem. However, I looked at all the SMS ACS read variable list but there is none for a batch id. Could anyone suggest how I can go about this? How does USER not satisfy your needs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
Less money usually means less skill, too. So it seems from my experience up here in Canada. (less care, too) - -teD - Original Message From: Leonard Sasso Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 13:36 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants The REAL reason they bring foreign workers to the U.S. is because they can pay them LESS money to do the work. Thank You. Len Sasso RDC Applications Management - Professional: System Administrator Backup QMR - Production Operations CSC Vacation Alert: ? 327 Columbia TPKE, Rensselaer NY 12144 NES | t: 518.257-4209 | m: 518-894-0879 | f: 257-4300 | lsa...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. Which makes IBM's response to Senator Charles Grassley even more preposterous: The high skilled visa programs provide a limited but necessary means for IBM to meet the near to medium term needs of its U.S clients and our own business. The technology industry's shift to new, higher value growth areas such as cloud, analytics, mobile, security and social technologies is placing a greater premium on a new set of skills. These changes are exacerbating the skills shortage that we discussed with you during your 2013 visit to IBM's Dubuque center. We bring goreign workers to the U.S. because those workers have specific profiles and expertise that we cannot source locally in a timely way to fulfill client contract requirements. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Leap Second today!
Yikes. Too much hasenpfeffer... http://www.wired.com/2012/07/leap-second-glitch-explained/ In a message dated 7/2/2015 11:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jayare...@hotmail.com writes: Ah, yes, Torvil! Quite the ice dancer in her day, too. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Query for Destination z article -- sysprog attributes
What attributes do system programmers absolutely need? Which are nice to have? Are there kiss-of-death traits for system programmers? Attributes can be skills, instincts, knowledge, etc. What's critical, what works, what doesn't matter, what's best never shown or seen? Perhaps at least as important, which attributes are innate and which can be learned (or, when necessary, unlearned)? Do these vary across different systems supported/maintained/developed? Thanks. As usual, please copy replies to me directly so they're not buried in list digests. -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. g...@gabegold.com 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042 (703) 204-0433 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabegoldTwitter: GabeG0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES
Hallo All, I am stuck with trying to figure out how I can code the variable for a Batch userid. For examle users aren't allowed to create a PDSe. I thought by coding the condition for the user's batch id it would solve the problem. However, I looked at all the SMS ACS read variable list but there is none for a batch id. Could anyone suggest how I can go about this? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES
USER is the User ID associated with the batch job. If you have a FILTLIST of the User IDs called, say, NOPDSES, then you can code: WHEN (USER EQ NOPDSES AND DSNTYPE EQ 'LIB') THEN DO WRITE 'NOT ALLOWED FOR PDSE' EXIT CODE(12) END HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMS ACS ROUTINE VARIABLES Hallo All, I am stuck with trying to figure out how I can code the variable for a Batch userid. For examle users aren't allowed to create a PDSe. I thought by coding the condition for the user's batch id it would solve the problem. However, I looked at all the SMS ACS read variable list but there is none for a batch id. Could anyone suggest how I can go about this? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam900/bv1184w.htm When the secondary extent is specified as zero for a PDS to PDSE copy, the secondary extent is set to one unit of the space unit that is specified as the primary allocation, to allow the copy to proceed. A PDSE is likely to run slightly larger than a PDS, and the user might not have allocated the PDSE any larger. At the end of processing, the secondary extent is set back to zero. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: But I do not want it to be set/increased. How can I force it so that secondary extents are not allocated? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Forbes: IT Professionals Don't Have What The Tech Industry Wants
On 7/2/2015 11:49 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:16:44 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: The absolute, sure fire way to determine whether there's a specific shortage is to look at the price of the product or service in alleged short supply relative to general inflation. To net it out, we don't see evidence in these data that there's an IT labor shortage in the United States. Or, if there is a shortage, it isn't getting materially worse. Which makes IBM's response to Senator Charles Grassley even more preposterous: The high skilled visa programs provide a limited but necessary means for IBM to meet the near to medium term needs of its U.S clients and our own business. The technology industry's shift to new, higher value growth areas such as cloud, analytics, mobile, security and social technologies is placing a greater premium on a new set of skills. These changes are exacerbating the skills shortage that we discussed with you during your 2013 visit to IBM's Dubuque center. We bring goreign workers to the U.S. because those workers have specific profiles and expertise that we cannot source locally in a timely way to fulfill client contract requirements. Dana This is, to be polite, horse hockey. The foreign workers can be paid less, and they learn on the job. They don't have the skills when they get off the boat. If there was a shortage, bill rates and salaries would be going up, but they're relatively flat and have been for years now. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Leap Second today!
On the red Hat page Linus Torvil ... Ah, yes, Torvil! Quite the ice dancer in her day, too. === Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 00:30:16 -0400 From: 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Leap Second today! To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On the red Hat page Linus Torvil tries to explain that much of the application software was designed and built in an ERA(1999-2005) that had no leap seconds. 'It's always something' R. Rosanadan In a message dated 7/1/2015 10:52:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hal9...@panix.com writes: A better solution would be to have the program read a record with the date of the next leap second (once it is announced - there is adequate warning to update the record. Until then it is the last leap second) to set the It is going to occur TODAY flag. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01184W SECONDARY EXTENT QUANTITY TEMPORARILY SET TO ONE
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:14:05 -0500 Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: :http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam900/bv1184w.htm Yes, I recognize that is the normal behavior. I do not want it. :When the secondary extent is specified as zero for a PDS to PDSE copy, the secondary extent is set to one unit of the space unit that is specified as the primary allocation, to allow the copy to proceed. A PDSE is likely to run slightly larger than a PDS, and the user might not have allocated the PDSE any larger. At the end of processing, the secondary extent is set back to zero. :On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Binyamin Dissen :bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: : But I do not want it to be set/increased. : How can I force it so that secondary extents are not allocated? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on SYSHELLO.THEATRE.RA000.FOO.BAR but I would think you are kind of asking for trouble if you name your dataset that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b6b1/12.22.2. 6? All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
I'm aware. Thanks. It's not a RACF question; I was just using RACF notation to express my logic. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? If you were not aware, there is a RACF list that might be more helpful. To subscribe to the RACF-L discussion in order to receive postings, send a note to: lists...@listserv.uga.edu Include the following line in the body of the note, substituting your first name and last name as indicated: subscribe racf-l first_name last_name To post a question or response to the RACF-L forum, send a note to: rac...@listserv.uga.edu Please include an appropriate subject line in your posting. Lizette -Original Message- From: Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com Sent: Jul 2, 2015 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b6b1/12.22.2.6? All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname where: yy indicates the year ddd indicates the Julian day hh indicates the hour mm indicates the minute ss indicates the second jjobname indicates the name of the job Thanks Kolusu From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 01:56 PM Subject:How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Have you activated TEMPDSN? I think this will provide the process you would need. To activate the TEMPDSN class, enter: SETROPTS CLASSACT(TEMPDSN) Lizette -Original Message- From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b6b1/12.22.2.6? All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname where: yy indicates the year ddd indicates the Julian day hh indicates the hour mm indicates the minute ss indicates the second jjobname indicates the name of the job Thanks Kolusu From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 01:56 PM Subject:How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
If you were not aware, there is a RACF list that might be more helpful. To subscribe to the RACF-L discussion in order to receive postings, send a note to: lists...@listserv.uga.edu Include the following line in the body of the note, substituting your first name and last name as indicated: subscribe racf-l first_name last_name To post a question or response to the RACF-L forum, send a note to: rac...@listserv.uga.edu Please include an appropriate subject line in your posting. Lizette -Original Message- From: Sri h Kolusu skol...@us.ibm.com Sent: Jul 2, 2015 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b6b1/12.22.2.6? All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname where: yy indicates the year ddd indicates the Julian day hh indicates the hour mm indicates the minute ss indicates the second jjobname indicates the name of the job Thanks Kolusu From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 01:56 PM Subject:How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specified? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I couldn't sleep. Signed, Old Guy Easily Frightened. On 7/2/2015 4:25 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do yyddd but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on SYSHELLO.THEATRE.RA000.FOO.BAR but I would think you are kind of asking for trouble if you name your dataset that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your search list 'SYSyyddd.T*.R*.**' Here is a link to naming convention of temp datasets http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2b6b1/12.22.2. 6? All temporary data set names begin as follows: SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RA000.jjobname -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training
http://www.sas.com/en_us/software/university-edition.html Free SAS Software. An interactive, online community. Superior training and documentation. And the analytic skills you need to secure your future Barry Merrill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training If you are familiar with SAS, then I would just get some of their books and study. otherwise WWW.SAS.COME/TRAINING Lots of virtual, e training and physical classroom there. they have eliminated some of their training session and added others. probably that one is either different or not available. I have also sent emails directly to sas training to find out if a class is available or not. There use to be SAS Le (LEARNING EDITION) but SAS has scrapped that for Universities/Colleges to provide the access. I have been told more than one - go take a college course from SAS Lizette -Original Message- From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov Sent: Jul 2, 2015 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FW: Help finding on-line SAS training Hi, I sent this out and haven't heard back. I thought I'd try IBM-MAIN. Thank you, Dave From: Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:39 AM To: 'sa...@listserv.uga.edu' Subject: Help finding on-line SAS training Dear Group, I am looking for an online class, something like: MS SYSTEMS TECHNICAL TRAINING INTRODUCTION TO SAS WORKSHOP. I think its three days. I Looked online and found I must have a group of three people to even get started in looking at on-line education. OK, but who provides a good SAS class? I called one place and it sure sounded like I wound up off-shore :( Others require a running copy of SAS on my PC, but I have no admin rights. It would be great if they had a discount for us government types, and hopefully I can have some kind of text book in hardcopy to reference at the completion of the course. Many thanks in advance, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
If exactly what were in place? Again, this is *not* for a RACF profile. I am just expressing the rule using EGN. Would SYS?.T??.RA000.* make people happier? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony's Outlook via Mozilla Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I couldn't sleep. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?
Maybe he thinks once you find them you're going to delete them. Charles Mills wrote: If exactly what were in place? Again, this is *not* for a RACF profile. I am just expressing the rule using EGN. Would SYS?.T??.RA000.* make people happier? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony's Outlook via Mozilla Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I couldn't sleep. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
