AW: Re: DFsort and zIIP

2016-07-18 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>DFSORT can use zIIP on behalf of DB2 utilities, but not otherwise. Here's
>more information:
 >
>At this time, IBM has no plan for enabling DFSORT to exploit the system z9 
>Integrated Information Processor (zIIP).  IBM realizes DFSORT remains a
>prominent component of our customers' batch workloads.  However,  the
>added controls that would need to be implemented in order to maintain our
>high standards for performance, reliability and system integrity are not
>justified in view of estimations that there is a low offload potential and 
>the value to clients may be marginal.[snip]





Interesting statement. I seem to remember that SyncSort offers an Add-On 
package that allows certain SyncSort processing to be offloaded to zIIPs. The 
above statement suggest that SyncSort's perfocmance is suffering from using 
zIIPs (simplified and exagerated, I know).


Also "IBM Sort for DB2 for z/OS" (can't remember the exact name), is offloading 
to zIIPs, if I remember correctly. This procuct is based on SyncSort code as 
far as I understand.


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Re: FAMS?

2016-07-18 Thread Steve Smith
FAMS is a secret interface.  IBM may or may not provide the 
documentation upon receipt of a signed NDA, and presumably, a "nominal" fee.


sas

On 7/18/2016 12:18, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

After my questions in a couple fora went unanswered, I looked further
into NFS documentation:

 z/OS Network File System Guide and Reference
 SC26-7417-13

 ... File time stamps in UNIX format are part of the attributes required
 by the NFS protocol for NFS client/server communication. ...

 2. MVS maintains the PDSE member create/change time stamp (mtime) in the
 PDSE AX cell. The Server uses a FileAccessMethodService (FAMS) call ...

A Google search for FAMS returns the NFS reference, a SHARE presentation, a RFE,
and several APARs.

Where is this thing documented?  It should be useful.

Also, from the NFS Guide:

 ... The server uses the following main time stamp sources to generate
 UNIX time stamps for MVS z/OS conventional (legacy) file systems:

 DSCB (data set control block)
 Master Catalog data set attribute extension (AX) cell
 PDSE member attribute extension (AX) cell
 ISPF member statistics
 TOD (current time_of_day on the server side).

Rube Goldberg.

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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have not done so, and you would like to join the RACF List, use this url
RACFhttp://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html

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Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks

2016-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
If I needed a macro, then given the below I would have a macro about as fast
as I could write a note

 MACRO
 CCB
CCB  DSECT
CCBCODE  DSXL2
CCBTLEN  DSH
CCBRMID  DSX
...

Charles

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these structures look about the right size, I have these structures in both
DB2 and MQ dumps but no macro ??? 
2
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From: Ron hesketh 
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Subject: Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:23:00 +0800

Hi ,
  Have a look in member DSNWCBDS in your DB2 SDSNSAMP dataset,  the
definition is in there.
Its not a macro, but a description of the fields  eg


CCB : COMPOSITE CAPABILITY BLOCK

 OFFSET   OFFSET
DECIMAL HEX  TYPELENGTH  NAME (DIM)
     ==  ==
  0  (0) STRUCTURE 1152  CCB
  0  (0) BIT(16)  2   CCBCODE
  2  (2) SIGNED   2   CCBTLEN
  4  (4) UNSIGNED 1   CCBRMID
  5  (5) UNSIGNED 1   CCBFCOD
  6  (6) UNSIGNED 1   CCBWTNG

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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Wai Choi
In RACF:
1. Only Certificate Authority(CA) certificate SHOULD issue certificates for 
others - for a user, for a server, for another CA. 

2. For a self-signed CA certificate, we call it a root certificate. 

3. A CA certificate signed by another CA is called an intermediate CA. 

4. CA certificates including root or intermediate are owned by a special ID 
CERTAUTH.

5. User certificates are owned by an ordinary RACF user ID.

6. Server certificates can be owned by an ordinary RACF user ID or by a special 
ID SITE.

7. In the original support when the FACILITY class is used to control the 
access of the private key of the certificate in the keyring, we need the 
certificate owned by SITE in order to share the private key by giving the ID of 
the application CONTROL access to IRR.DIGTCERT.GENCERT. That's the reason of 
having SITE as the owner. But in V1R10 when RDATALIB class was introduced, this 
restriction was lifted, the owner does not need to be SITE. 

8. Having SITE as the owner of a server certificate is logical. Having an 
ordinary ID as the owner of a server certificate has the benefit of enabling 
the same ID to own the key ring. Key ring can not be owned by the SITE ID.

9. In validation process, SITE certificate can be used by a certificate 
validation application that honors it without checking the whole chain of CAs. 
But I don't know if any common certificate validation application running on 
z/OS honors it yet.

10. Go back to #1, I said SHOULD. But RACF supports SITE to issue certificates 
too. I don't find a scenario that needs this support though.

Wai Choi - RACF/PKI Design and Development

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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Maybe take a look at the Digital Certificate Goody Bags on z/OS presentations 
or something like Security Server RACF Security Administrator's Guide 
(SA23-2289), Using RACF to manage digital certificates:

RACF has three categories for managing digital certificates:

User certificate

A certificate that is associated with a RACF user ID and is used to 
authenticate the user's identity. The RACF user ID can represent a traditional 
user or be assigned to a server or started procedure.

Certificate-authority certificate

A certificate that is associated with a certificate authority and is used to 
verify signatures in other certificates.

Site certificate

A certificate that is associated with an off-platform server or other network 
entity, such as a peer VPN server. This category of certificate can also be 
used to share a single certificate and its private key among multiple RACF user 
IDs. When used for sharing, a certificate might be referred to as a placeholder 
certificate.

Regards,

Kevin

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>So:

>CERTAUTH - root certs

>SITE - server leaf certs (and intermediates?)

>User - certs used to authenticate users to servers

 

>Anyone want to agree/argue/validate/disprove? 

 

Nobody else has any thoughts on this? Surely we aren't the only ones dealing 
with certificates (well, besides Dave Gibney)?


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Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks

2016-07-18 Thread esst...@juno.com
these structures look about the right size, I have these structures in both DB2 
and MQ dumps
but no macro ??? 
2 
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From: Ron hesketh 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:23:00 +0800

Hi ,
  Have a look in member DSNWCBDS in your DB2 SDSNSAMP dataset,  the
definition is in there.
Its not a macro, but a description of the fields  eg


CCB : COMPOSITE CAPABILITY BLOCK

 OFFSET   OFFSET
DECIMAL HEX  TYPELENGTH  NAME (DIM)
     ==  ==
  0  (0) STRUCTURE 1152  CCB
  0  (0) BIT(16)  2   CCBCODE
  2  (2) SIGNED   2   CCBTLEN
  4  (4) UNSIGNED 1   CCBRMID
  5  (5) UNSIGNED 1   CCBFCOD
  6  (6) UNSIGNED 1   CCBWTNG
  7  (7) BIT(8)   1   CCBFLGS
  8  (8) CHARACTER8   CCBUSER
 16 (10) CHARACTER8   CCBRESNM
 24 (18) CHARACTER   16   CCBNID
 40 (28) UNSIGNED 8   CCBUOWSEQ
 48 (30) ADDRESS  8   CCBWWFR
 56 (38) CHARACTER6   *
 62 (3E) BIT(8)   1   CCBFLGS2


EB : EXECUTION BLOCK

 OFFSET   OFFSET
DECIMAL HEX  TYPELENGTH  NAME (DIM)
     ==  ==
  0  (0) STRUCTURE  504  EB
  0  (0) SIGNED   2   EBCODE
  2  (2) SIGNED   2   EBTLEN
  4  (4) ADDRESS  4   EBCHA
  8  (8) ADDRESS  4   EBEXU
 12  (C) ADDRESS  4   EBROB
 16 (10) CHARACTER8   EBSUSPDW
 16 (10) ADDRESS  4EBSUSPROB
 16 (10) ADDRESS  4 EBTSRB
 16 (10) BIT(32)  4  *
 16 (10) BIT(29)  4   *
 20 (14) UNSIGNED 4EBSUSPSEQ
 24 (18) ADDRESS  4   EBSROB
   :
It also has an ACE, but its different from the one you want :

ACE : AGENT CONTROL ELEMENT

 OFFSET   OFFSET
DECIMAL HEX  TYPELENGTH  NAME (DIM)
     ==  ==
  0  (0) STRUCTURE  696  ACE
  0  (0) SIGNED   2   ACECODE
  2  (2) SIGNED   2   ACETLEN
  4  (4) ADDRESS  4   ACECHNA
  8  (8) ADDRESS  4   ACEEBA
  8  (8) CHARACTER1*
 12  (C) ADDRESS  4   ACEASE
 12  (C) CHARACTER1*
 16 (10) ADDRESS  4   ACERALE
 20 (14) ADDRESS  4   ACE_NOUSE
 24 (18) ADDRESS  4   ACECROB
 28 (1C) CHARACTER   24   ACESTAT
 28 (1C) CHARACTER4ACEFLAG
Regards,
   Ron


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Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks

2016-07-18 Thread esst...@juno.com
Db2 may use these control blocks, however I have seen them In MQdumps as well


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From: Binyamin Dissen 
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Subject: Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:34:18 +0300

Sorry, you are mistaken. They are.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:11:46 GMT "esst...@juno.com"  wrote:

:>These are not DB2 control blocks
:>
:>-- Original Message --
:>From: Binyamin Dissen 
:>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:>Subject: Re: Need Help Idenifying Control Blocks
:>Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:36:35 +0300
:>
:>IBM does not provide DSECTs for internal DB2 control blocks.
:>
:>On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:30:21 GMT "esst...@juno.com"  wrote:
:>
:>:>I need some help in Identifying the Mapping Macros for the following z/OS 
control blocks:
:>:>EB  - Execution Block   
:>:>ACE - Auxiliary Storage Management Control Element
:>:>  (I believe the mapping Macro is ILRACE)
:>:>CCB - Composite Capability Block 
:>
:>:>Since I only have an abbreviated Structure Name I don't know the compete 
macro name
:>:>like IKJTCB.
:>.
:>:>Can some one identify the Mapping macros for the control blocks listed above
:>:>I tried looking at SYS1.MODGEN and SYS1.MACLIB.

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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Grinsell, Don
In my experience (ACF2) intermediate certs are also inserted using CERTAUTH.  
Essentially anything in the certificate chain for a SITECERT or USER cert is a 
CERTAUTH item.

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> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:45 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate
> 
> >So:
> 
> >CERTAUTH - root certs
> 
> >SITE - server leaf certs (and intermediates?)
> 
> >User - certs used to authenticate users to servers
> 
> 
> 
> >Anyone want to agree/argue/validate/disprove?
> 
> 
> 
> Nobody else has any thoughts on this? Surely we aren't the only ones dealing
> with certificates (well, besides Dave Gibney)?
> 
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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
Cert discussion is more frequent over on RACF-L :)

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> 
> >So:
> 
> >CERTAUTH - root certs
> 
> >SITE - server leaf certs (and intermediates?)
> 
> >User - certs used to authenticate users to servers
> 
> 
> 
> >Anyone want to agree/argue/validate/disprove?
> 
> 
> 
> Nobody else has any thoughts on this? Surely we aren't the only ones dealing
> with certificates (well, besides Dave Gibney)?
> 
> 
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Re: CERTAUTH vs SITE vs user certificate

2016-07-18 Thread Phil Smith III
>So:

>CERTAUTH - root certs

>SITE - server leaf certs (and intermediates?)

>User - certs used to authenticate users to servers

 

>Anyone want to agree/argue/validate/disprove? 

 

Nobody else has any thoughts on this? Surely we aren't the only ones dealing
with certificates (well, besides Dave Gibney)?


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Re: Changing CPU mix was Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Edward Finnell
Several really good articles on Z13 architecture and performance  
enhancements with SMT.
Harv Emery's SHARE Seattle(16410) rollout of Z13(p.14) is a good starter.  
Found it with 'IBM Z13 CPU' search argument.
 
There's also a Windows/JAVA64  based performance tool. Don't know  
granularity.
 
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS1381
 
 
In a message dated 7/18/2016 2:29:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes:

Here is  a web page to estimate zAAP / zIIP  usage.
http://enterprisesystemsmedia.com/article/ex
amining-the-usefulness-of-ziip-zaap-processors

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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread John Eells

See the SET (list name) NOMAIL option in LISTSERV commands, here:

https://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/htmlhelp/list%20subscribers/LSCommands.html

You might find other interesting options there, depending on what you 
want to do.


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I know my boss assigned me this problem
As an aside if I register my IRS e-mail on IBM-Main is there a way not get 
every e-mail
I don't mind it in my personel e-mail
But I have a lot of other stuff on my irs.gov e-mail



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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Joseph Reichman
I know my boss assigned me this problem 
As an aside if I register my IRS e-mail on IBM-Main is there a way not get 
every e-mail 
I don't mind it in my personel e-mail 
But I have a lot of other stuff on my irs.gov e-mail



> On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Campbell Jay  wrote:
> 
> Have a current SR open with IBM...   57827 082 000
> Our output is VB  LRECL=31996  BLKSIZE=32000.
> Using BUFL=32600 fixes our problem.
> SR was opened to find out why that works.
> 
> Jay Campbell
> IBM OS Support Section
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Joe Reichman
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: RDW corruption
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. I 
> coded a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)
> 
> 
> 
> When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the 
> next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"
> 
> 
> 
> As there anything/exit I can do to capture this the program seems to go to
> EOJ  
> 
> 
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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Campbell Jay
Correct... our BDW is turning into zeros... our RDW is correct.

Jay Campbell
IBM OS Support Section


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Subject: Re: RDW corruption

Try a IDCAMS PRINT DUMP of the offending record.  Especially examine the BDW 
and RDW at the start of the block.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Campbell Jay  wrote:
> Have a current SR open with IBM...   57827 082 000
> Our output is VB  LRECL=31996  BLKSIZE=32000.
> Using BUFL=32600 fixes our problem.
> SR was opened to find out why that works.
>
> Jay Campbell
> IBM OS Support Section
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Joe Reichman
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: RDW corruption
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. 
> I coded a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)
>
>
>
> When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the 
> next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"
>
>
>
> As there anything/exit I can do to capture this the program seems to 
> go to EOJ
>
>
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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Roach, Dennis
Use RECFM=U to see the BDW and RDW.

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-Original Message-
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Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RDW corruption

Try a IDCAMS PRINT DUMP of the offending record.  Especially examine the BDW 
and RDW at the start of the block.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Campbell Jay  wrote:
> Have a current SR open with IBM...   57827 082 000
> Our output is VB  LRECL=31996  BLKSIZE=32000.
> Using BUFL=32600 fixes our problem.
> SR was opened to find out why that works.
>
> Jay Campbell
> IBM OS Support Section
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] 
> On Behalf Of Joe Reichman
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: RDW corruption
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. 
> I coded a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)
>
>
>
> When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the 
> next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"
>
>
>
> As there anything/exit I can do to capture this the program seems to 
> go to EOJ
>
>
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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Try a IDCAMS PRINT DUMP of the offending record.  Especially examine
the BDW and RDW at the start of the block.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Campbell Jay  wrote:
> Have a current SR open with IBM...   57827 082 000
> Our output is VB  LRECL=31996  BLKSIZE=32000.
> Using BUFL=32600 fixes our problem.
> SR was opened to find out why that works.
>
> Jay Campbell
> IBM OS Support Section
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Joe Reichman
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
> Subject: RDW corruption
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. I 
> coded a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)
>
>
>
> When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the 
> next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"
>
>
>
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Re: DFsort and zIIP

2016-07-18 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Andy,

DFSORT can use zIIP on behalf of DB2 utilities, but not otherwise. Here's 
more information: 

At this time, IBM has no plan for enabling DFSORT to exploit the system z9 
Integrated Information Processor (zIIP).  IBM realizes DFSORT remains a 
prominent component of our customers' batch workloads.  However,  the 
added controls that would need to be implemented in order to maintain our 
high standards for performance, reliability and system integrity are not 
justified in view of estimations that there is a low offload potential and 
the value to clients may be marginal.  IBM will continue to focus its 
DFSORT development efforts on the enhanced function, performance, 
reliability and service items that we believe provide the most value to 
our clients. The foregoing represents IBM's current intent and is subject 
to change.

DB2 Utilities Suite for z/OS uses a small set of DFSORT sort function. 
Worldwide, there has been a tremendous increase in DB2 for z/OS activity 
(due to such things as database consolidations, remote connectivity, 
business intelligence, and specialty engine exploitation). This increase 
in DB2 activity has led to an increase in database maintenance workloads 
which often drive bursts of parallel utility processing during scheduled 
maintenance windows. As a result, additional offload by DB2 Utilities 
Suite for z/OS is supported. 

Thanks,
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 07/18/2016 12:24 PM
> Subject: DFsort and zIIP
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Does anyone know does DFSORT take advantage of zIIP engines if they 
> are installed? I read online where they do for DB2 invoking DFSORT 
> but wondering in general if it does or planned on utilizing them.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andy
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Re: Changing CPU mix was Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Mike Schwab
A zIIP runs at full speed and is about 10% the cost of a CP.  No
software license costs based on zIIP capacity or usage. z/OS 1.6+ on
z9+ run zIIPs and used by Java / DB2 V8+ /
Linux runs on zIFLs.
z13 consolidates zAAPs onto zIIPs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIIP
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/features/ziip/

Here is a web page to estimate zAAP / zIIP usage.
http://enterprisesystemsmedia.com/article/examining-the-usefulness-of-ziip-zaap-processors



On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Clark Morris  wrote:
> [Default] On 15 Jul 2016 18:51:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) wrote:
>
>>In our upgrades over many years, our goal has generally been to keep MSUs 
>>more or less the same unless actual growth is necessary. Few if any 
>>vendors/products base price on number of CPs. Our upgrades are usually based 
>>on technology--and the accompanying IBM price advantage. Because CPs have 
>>gotten hugely faster since the advent of CMOS in the mid-90s, this has often 
>>meant a reduction in the number of GP CPs from one generation to the next.
>>
> To sum up my question, would 2 general purpose CPUs each kneecapped to
> X MIPS plus a zIIP perform better than 3 general purpose CPUs each
> kneecapped to X MIPS and no zIIP?  What are the workload
> characteristics that would influence the choice?  What are the
> financial characteristics (software and hardware costs) that would
> influence the choice?
>
> Clark Morris
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>J.O.Skip Robinson
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>>Electric Dragon Team Paddler
>>SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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>>626-302-7535 Office
>>robin...@sce.com
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>>Behalf Of Clark Morris
>>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 5:11 PM
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>Subject: (External):Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2
>>
>>[Default] On 15 Jul 2016 04:46:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
>>000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Tom Marchant) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:29:38 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
>>>
[Default] On 14 Jul 2016 10:41:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote:

>>>
>What you don't know is that Dave is running a kneecapped 3-way with
>no zIIP where each CP delivers ~9 MSU.
>
>We run a kneecapped 3-way similar to Dave's, but we have a zIIP that
>delivers ~178MSU. It's 19 times faster than any of Dave's CPs and, in
>my experience, one needs that kind of power to get decent response
>times out of any significant Java workload.

Would it make sense to make it a kneecapped 2 way with a zIIP?  Are
there areas where this would improve performance?
>>>
>>>Are you assuming that in order to get a zIIP he'd have to give up a CP?
>>>That isn't the case. There are available processors on the box to turn
>>>in a zIIP.
>>
>>My thought in suggesting a 2-way plus a zIIP was to keep the total number of 
>>processors the same .  I was also thinking of a scenario where each of the 
>>two remaining processors kept their original setting so the total z capacity 
>>would be 2/3 of the original configuration plus the capacity of the zIIP.
>>
>>Clark Morris
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DFsort and zIIP

2016-07-18 Thread White, Andy
Does anyone know does DFSORT take advantage of zIIP engines if they are 
installed? I read online where they do for DB2 invoking DFSORT but wondering in 
general if it does or planned on utilizing them.

Thanks

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RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Joe Reichman
Hi,

 

I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. I
coded a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)

 

When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the
next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"

 

As there anything/exit I can do to capture this the program seems to go to
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Re: RDW corruption

2016-07-18 Thread Campbell Jay
Have a current SR open with IBM...   57827 082 000
Our output is VB  LRECL=31996  BLKSIZE=32000.
Using BUFL=32600 fixes our problem.
SR was opened to find out why that works.

Jay Campbell
IBM OS Support Section

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Subject: RDW corruption

Hi,

 

I have a program that generates a corrupted RDW The file is a VB file. I coded 
a synad exit but it didn't take (it was never given control)

 

When I go into ISPF and I do a max down I can see where ISPF can't read the 
next record as I get "* * * I/O error detected, i/o terminated * * *"

 

As there anything/exit I can do to capture this the program seems to go to
EOJ  


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Re: SMFPRMxx

2016-07-18 Thread Lopez, Sharon

Thank you.  I guess I just trying to find out which products actually have 
their own IEFU* exits.  We only found one at IPL time that was being loaded and 
that was ZEKE.


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Charles Mills wrote:

>D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYS.IEFU8*

Thanks, I use that command rather for my IRREVXxx and UJI exits to see if the 
loadlib+exits are actually loaded at IPL.

What about TSO ISRDDN? You can use it to locate the modules.


Sharon, do you have any source code for those exits? Depending on what they're 
doing, you may or may not see what they were doing upon being called.

You can always remove these exits to see who is crying... (it is of course a 
dangerous action...)

Just be careful, because some products do have their own IEFU* exits which are 
installed as part of those products.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: SMFPRMxx

2016-07-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote:

>D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYS.IEFU8*

Thanks, I use that command rather for my IRREVXxx and UJI exits to see if the 
loadlib+exits are actually loaded at IPL.

What about TSO ISRDDN? You can use it to locate the modules.


Sharon, do you have any source code for those exits? Depending on what they're 
doing, you may or may not see what they were doing upon being called.

You can always remove these exits to see who is crying... (it is of course a 
dangerous action...)

Just be careful, because some products do have their own IEFU* exits which are 
installed as part of those products.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 7/18/2016 10:37 AM, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:

 From a presentation:
The IBM z13 continues to support the z Integrated Information Processor (zIIP) 
which can take advantage of the optional simultaneous multithreading (SMT) 
technology capability. SMT allows up to two active instruction streams per 
core, each dynamically sharing the core's execution resources.


z13 hardware supports SMT on all PU types but, on normal CPs, z/OS 
chooses to dispatch to thread zero only due to chargeback issues.


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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
The first place to look is the IBM z13s Announcement Letter about "Simultaneous 
Multi-Threading (SMT)" and search IBM.com with "Simultaneous Multi-Threading 
(SMT)", to find a lot and it is not just z/OS.

An additional resource is: 5697-AB1 IBM Automatic Binary Optimizer for z/OS 
V1.1, this product updates COBOL LOAD libraries to take advantage of the newer 
processors, without having to recompile or upgrade to COBOL 5.2, which has the 
support for SMT built in:
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=DD&subtype=SM&htmlfid=897/ENUS5697-AB1

Redbook: z Systems Simultaneous Multithreading Revolution
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp5144.html?Open

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
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On 7/18/2016 10:02 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:17:17 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
>
>> [On] a z13 system, there are new hardware instructions that use the 
>> zIIP engines
> What does that mean, Al? Did you see it documented somewhere that some of the 
> new instructions somehow make use of zIIP? That suggests millicoded 
> instructions that somehow are dispatched on another processor. That seems 
> quite unlikely to me.

This must be a misunderstanding...

Perhaps he's thinking of the new Vector Facility for z Architecture (aka SIMD). 
Of course, those instructions work on all PU types.

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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 18, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al)  wrote:
> 
> No, it is not a new Vector facility, kind of, it is similar, but not true 
> Vector.
> 
> I think I am stating things correctly.
> 
> Give me a few minutes to find your answers, because it is documented, it was 
> some of the things I learned from the IBMTechU conference I went to a couple 
> of months ago.
> 
> From a presentation:
> The IBM z13 continues to support the z Integrated Information Processor 
> (zIIP) which can take advantage of the optional simultaneous multithreading 
> (SMT) technology capability. SMT allows up to two active instruction streams 
> per core, each dynamically sharing the core's execution resources.

SMT is not about new instructions; it means a single processor can appear to be 
two. In other words, it can have two tasks dispatched on it concurrently. All 
processor types support SMT, but z/OS will never enable SMT on a CP, while you 
can configure z/OS to enable SMT on zIIPs.

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Re: SMFPRMxx

2016-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYS.IEFU8*

Charles

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SMFPRMxx

We have IEFU83, IEFU84, and IEFU85 in our SMFPRMxx members.  They have been
there for a long time (long before me) and I'm trying to determine if they
are actually being called/used.  Is there any way to determine this?  It
looks like we have the defaults that came with z/OS in SYS1.LPALIB and that
is all that I can find.

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SMFPRMxx

2016-07-18 Thread Lopez, Sharon
We have IEFU83, IEFU84, and IEFU85 in our SMFPRMxx members.  They have been 
there for a long time (long before me) and I'm trying to determine if they are 
actually being called/used.  Is there any way to determine this?  It looks like 
we have the defaults that came with z/OS in SYS1.LPALIB and that is all that I 
can find.

Thanks in advance.




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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
No, it is not a new Vector facility, kind of, it is similar, but not true 
Vector.

I think I am stating things correctly.

Give me a few minutes to find your answers, because it is documented, it was 
some of the things I learned from the IBMTechU conference I went to a couple of 
months ago.

From a presentation:
The IBM z13 continues to support the z Integrated Information Processor (zIIP) 
which can take advantage of the optional simultaneous multithreading (SMT) 
technology capability. SMT allows up to two active instruction streams per 
core, each dynamically sharing the core's execution resources.

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 1:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

On 7/18/2016 10:02 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:17:17 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
>
>> [On] a z13 system, there are new hardware instructions that use the 
>> zIIP engines
> What does that mean, Al? Did you see it documented somewhere that some of the 
> new instructions somehow make use of zIIP? That suggests millicoded 
> instructions that somehow are dispatched on another processor. That seems 
> quite unlikely to me.

This must be a misunderstanding...

Perhaps he's thinking of the new Vector Facility for z Architecture (aka SIMD). 
Of course, those instructions work on all PU types.

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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 7/18/2016 10:02 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:17:17 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:


[On] a z13 system, there are new hardware instructions that use the zIIP engines

What does that mean, Al? Did you see it documented somewhere that some of the 
new instructions somehow make use of zIIP? That suggests millicoded 
instructions that somehow are dispatched on another processor. That seems quite 
unlikely to me.


This must be a misunderstanding...

Perhaps he's thinking of the new Vector Facility for z Architecture (aka 
SIMD). Of course, those instructions work on all PU types.


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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:17:17 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:

>[On] a z13 system, there are new hardware instructions that use the zIIP 
>engines

What does that mean, Al? Did you see it documented somewhere that some of the 
new instructions somehow make use of zIIP? That suggests millicoded 
instructions that somehow are dispatched on another processor. That seems quite 
unlikely to me.

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FAMS?

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
After my questions in a couple fora went unanswered, I looked further
into NFS documentation:

z/OS Network File System Guide and Reference
SC26-7417-13 

... File time stamps in UNIX format are part of the attributes required
by the NFS protocol for NFS client/server communication. ...

2. MVS maintains the PDSE member create/change time stamp (mtime) in the
PDSE AX cell. The Server uses a FileAccessMethodService (FAMS) call ...

A Google search for FAMS returns the NFS reference, a SHARE presentation, a RFE,
and several APARs.

Where is this thing documented?  It should be useful.

Also, from the NFS Guide:

... The server uses the following main time stamp sources to generate
UNIX time stamps for MVS z/OS conventional (legacy) file systems:

DSCB (data set control block)
Master Catalog data set attribute extension (AX) cell
PDSE member attribute extension (AX) cell
ISPF member statistics
TOD (current time_of_day on the server side).

Rube Goldberg.

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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Possible resources to assist in evaluations of new hardware:

#1. Start gathering SMF 113 records "Hardware Instrumentation Services" (HIS) 
(z10's and up).
#2. Use the zPCR tool:
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS1381

Also remember, if you are going to a z13 system, there are new hardware 
instructions that use the zIIP engines, not just JAVA.  The newer COBOL can 
take advantage of this, but there is also a tool that will let you create a new 
loadlib data set that will allow older COBOL programs to take advanatage of 
this also.

Al Nims
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A z13s machine configured as a X01 capacity model (where X=A through Z) plus a 
zIIP is not *exactly* a "uniprocessor" machine. To be precise, that machine 
would be a uni-CP machine. That machine configuration would actually support up 
to three processor execution threads in z/OS, depending on the workloads.

If you preferred a two-way processor configuration in the past, pre zIIP/zAAP, 
then "probably" you will continue to prefer a two-way processor configuration. 
However, "probably" is not "definitely." Ask "your friendly IBM representative" 
for advice.


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Node.js for z/OS: Emerging Now

2016-07-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
I've seen some questions in IBM-MAIN (and elsewhere) about availability of
Node.js for z/OS. The latest version of Node.js is just starting to emerge
on z/OS, and that's great news of course. For the latest information (as of
July 14, 2016, at least), please take a look at Michael Dawson's article
here:

https://developer.ibm.com/node/2016/07/14/linuxone-ppc-aix-and-zos-support-in-the-node-js-community/

If you're wondering what Node.js is, this Wikipedia article explains the
basics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node.js

Node.js was introduced some time ago for Linux on z and LinuxONE and (of
course) continues to be updated and enhanced. IBM's builds are available
for download here:

https://developer.ibm.com/node/sdk/


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Re: Job Search

2016-07-18 Thread william janulin
Joe can be difficult to reach at times. You can also contacvt, which I have 
done because I am in the market as well, Chris Evans. I believe his moniker is 
ch...@spci.net. I am seeking any remote sysprog work, either zVM, zVSE, zOS or 
all of the above.
Bill J.
 

On Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:49 PM, Tom Conley  
wrote:
 

 On 7/17/2016 5:38 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Try contacting Joe Gallaher at Systems Programming Consultants, Inc. (SPCI). 
> He attends most SHARE conferences and would be my first stop if I were 
> looking.
> Plus, I've known him for over 35 years. :-)
>
> His email is quite simple: j...@spci.net
>
> Bob
>

I'll second that, Joe is the best.  I also use dice.com.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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How large an RSA does ATTACHX provide to the subtask?

2016-07-18 Thread Peter Relson
>"Standard" save area Now what on Earth does that mean...
z/OS Doc, as does z/OS itself, has compatibility requirements. Standard 
save area means what it has meant for 40 or 50 years. Unfortunately, that 
leads reasonably to questions like yours since of course now the word 
"standard" in this context has no intrinsic (only historical) meaning.

>in the ATTACHX doc in "Reference", and all that said was 
>that R13 contained the "Address of a standard save area".
This was apparently updated in z/OS 2.1 (as it is correct in the z/OS 2.1 
knowledge center). While I fully sympathize and empathize with wanting to 
use the z/OS 1.13 books because they're still available via bookmgr (and I 
frequently do so myself), it can still be important to look at the current 
books.


>> I believe at the Z level it became 144.

>But note
>,ETXR=exit rtn addr
>The contents of the GPRs when the exit routine receives control are as 
follows:
>Register Contents
>...
>13 Address of a 72-byte area provided by the system.


There really is no "but" since there is no conflict between the two. "It" 
referred to the register save area provided to the attached routine (which 
does get a 144-byte save area). The ETXR is a different matter. IRBs (and 
the ETXR is one) do not in general get a 144-byte save area.

ATTACHX processing was changed from providing a 72-byte savearea in or 
before z/OS 1.4, but after OS/390 R10.


Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: Inappropriate posts

2016-07-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Anthony Thompson wrote:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sffSw-et9UM 
 
Hahaha. Another good video for bored sysprogs like me and you! Thanks Anthony! 

Groete / Greetings 
Elardus Engelbrecht 


PS: my work is blocking facebook, youtube and such bandwith eating websites 
including that micro$hit win10 secret downloaders, so I watch these vids from 
my home...

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Re: Any Gotchas going from V1.13 to V2.2

2016-07-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
A z13s machine configured as a X01 capacity model (where X=A through Z)
plus a zIIP is not *exactly* a "uniprocessor" machine. To be precise, that
machine would be a uni-CP machine. That machine configuration would
actually support up to three processor execution threads in z/OS, depending
on the workloads.

If you preferred a two-way processor configuration in the past, pre
zIIP/zAAP, then "probably" you will continue to prefer a two-way processor
configuration. However, "probably" is not "definitely." Ask "your friendly
IBM representative" for advice.


Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com

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AW: PSF Issue

2016-07-18 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Mark,You may want to try on the AFP-L list 
(http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/afp-l.html). AFP and Printer experts hang out 
there.


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