Re: how to suppress the message IEF196I

2017-05-01 Thread Brian Westerman
There isn't much you can do about the ones that come from jobs that are started 
under the master scheduler, but normal day to day stuff (everything else that 
runs under control of JES) is controlled by the MONITOR option of your 
consoles, the one that controls those "millions" of messages you probably don't 
want is MONITOR(STATUS).  You probably have something like 
MONITOR(JOBNAMES-T,SESS-T,STATUS):

From the Init and tuning guide:
"STATUS specifies that the system is to display the names and volume serial 
numbers of data sets having dispositions of KEEP, CATLG, or UNCATLG whenever 
these data sets are freed."

Whether or not you "need" them is something only you can decide.  I personally 
don't think they are useful, because if you want detail information you can get 
it from the SMF records (which I do), and they actually make the SYSLOG even 
harder to go through than it needs to be.  

Again, the discussion of whether you want them or not is totally up to your 
preference, not us, it all depends on what you want.  I maintain a LOT of 
sites, and only a very few want that data displayed on the console and SYSLOG.  
Since more (and better) information is available from SMF, I feel the messages 
are unnecessary, but it's your call.

Brian

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

2017-05-01 Thread Feller, Paul
We had the issue with real storage.  It happened on an lpar with 2.5 gig of 
real storage.  After talking with IBM support we decided to standardize on no 
lpar was to be smaller than 4 gig.  After that the issues with odd lock ups on 
lpars went away.

We are running SYSVIEW under z/OS 2.2, but it is the 14.1 level.

Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 16:29
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Subject: Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

Yes, I have an open issue with CA Support.

No, I did not take a SADUMP...and CA Support has not requested one.

Yes, I have checked the CA Knowledge Base...and have also gone back over the 
install guide and administration guide.



It is a sandbox LPAR running as a guest under z/VM 6.3 and it has 1G of storage 
assigned to it.  Not starting any databases (we run ADABAS) or CICS'es at IPL 
time.  I will add a couple Gig of storage and try that.



Thanks,

Ron McCabe

Mutual of Enumclaw





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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 2:14 PM

To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Subject: Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2



On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:29:39 +, McCabe, Ron  
wrote:



>Hello Listers,

>

>Is anyone running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2?  We are upgrading our z/OS 1.13 
>to 2.2 and CA-SYSVIEW needed to be upgraded too along with applying a required 
>PTF to run on z/OS 2.2.  I got everything updated but when we start/run 
>CA-SYSVIEW it locks up the system and the only way out of it is to IPL.

>

>So if anyone is running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2 did you run into any 
>problems, especially what I just described?  If yes, what was the fix?  I do 
>have an open issue with CA Support on this but sure would like to know what 
>others have run into.

>

>Thanks,

>Ron McCabe

>Mutual of Enumclaw

>

>



Did you open an issue with CA?  Did you take a SADUMP? Did you search the CA KB?

I personally am working on z/OS 2.2 systems with 14.1,  not 14.2, but I know of 
many other systems with 14.2 and z/OS 2.2.



Is this a sandbox LPAR?  How much storage does it have?  I have already been 
involved in 3 cases on z/OS 2.2 systems for different clients with slightly 
different "lock up" problems during IPL or what looked like loops and in each 
the root cause was the LPAR only had 2G of real storage and starting a task 
with "high" virtual storage requirements caused a problem due to lack of real 
storage.  For example, the startup of DB2 or IMS during the IPL process.  The 
solution was to add at least .5G of real storage.



Regards,



Mark

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Re: how to suppress the message IEF196I

2017-05-01 Thread ibmm...@foxmail.com

Hi all

I check our operlog again to find out why there are millions of 
message(IEF196I) in the operlog every day.

Please see the part of operlog below: 

Most of IEF196I is normal.Because we use WLM initiator,there are lot of  
message( IEF196I) from batch JOB or START TASK.

How to suppress these  message( IEF196I) from batch JOB or START TASK. Is there 
any parm which could suppress them in JES2?


N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:20.73  0290  IEF196I IEF237I 6F06 
ALLOCATED TO SYS01792
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:20.74  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   
SYS1.LINKLIB KEPT
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:20.74  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   VOL 
SER NOS= 2P1RS1.
N 000 CP1F 17101 00:40:25.77  0290  IEF196I IEF237I 6F00 
ALLOCATED TO IPCSDDIR
N 000 CP1F 17101 00:40:25.77  0290  IEF196I IGD104I 
SYS1.DDIRRETAINED,
N 000 CP1F 17101 00:40:25.77  0290  IEF196I DDNAME=IPCSDDIR
N 000 CP1A 17101 00:40:27.09  0290  IEF196I IEF237I 6F06 
ALLOCATED TO SYS00528
N 000 CP1A 17101 00:40:27.09  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   
SYS1.LINKLIB KEPT
N 000 CP1A 17101 00:40:27.09  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   VOL 
SER NOS= 2P1RS1.
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:41.59  0290  IEF196I IEF237I 6F06 
ALLOCATED TO SYS01793
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:41.60  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   
SYS1.LINKLIB KEPT
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:41.60  0290  IEF196I IEF285I   VOL 
SER NOS= 2P1RS1.
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 1 
//INIT JOB MSGLEVEL=1
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 2 
//STARTING EXEC INIT
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
XX**
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I **/ 0005
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*** 
START OF SPECIFICATIONS
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
/ 00075000
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
*/ 0010
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*   
 PROCEDURE NAME : INIT
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
*/ 0015
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
*/ 0020
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*   
 FUNCTION: The INIT procedure is used to start
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I the MVS 
@p2C*/ 00236600
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*   
   by calling the module IEFIIC.
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
@p2C*/ 00273200
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I
*/ 00309800
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX* 
PROPRIETARY STATEMENT:
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00346400
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00383200
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX* 
LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY OF IBM
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00429000
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX* 
THIS MACRO IS "RESTRICTED MATERIALS OF IBM"
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00474800
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX* 
5694-A01 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1987, 2003
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00520600
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00566400
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX* 
STATUS= HBB7708
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I 
* 00612200
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  0290  IEF196I   XX*
N 000 CP1C 17101 00:40:42.26  

Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

2017-05-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
Yes, I have an open issue with CA Support.
No, I did not take a SADUMP...and CA Support has not requested one.
Yes, I have checked the CA Knowledge Base...and have also gone back over the 
install guide and administration guide.

It is a sandbox LPAR running as a guest under z/VM 6.3 and it has 1G of storage 
assigned to it.  Not starting any databases (we run ADABAS) or CICS'es at IPL 
time.  I will add a couple Gig of storage and try that.

Thanks,
Ron McCabe
Mutual of Enumclaw


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Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 2:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:29:39 +, McCabe, Ron  
wrote:

>Hello Listers,
>
>Is anyone running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2?  We are upgrading our z/OS 1.13 
>to 2.2 and CA-SYSVIEW needed to be upgraded too along with applying a required 
>PTF to run on z/OS 2.2.  I got everything updated but when we start/run 
>CA-SYSVIEW it locks up the system and the only way out of it is to IPL.
>
>So if anyone is running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2 did you run into any 
>problems, especially what I just described?  If yes, what was the fix?  I do 
>have an open issue with CA Support on this but sure would like to know what 
>others have run into.
>
>Thanks,
>Ron McCabe
>Mutual of Enumclaw
>
>

Did you open an issue with CA?  Did you take a SADUMP? Did you search the CA KB?
I personally am working on z/OS 2.2 systems with 14.1,  not 14.2, but I know of 
many other systems with 14.2 and z/OS 2.2.

Is this a sandbox LPAR?  How much storage does it have?  I have already been 
involved in 3 cases on z/OS 2.2 systems for different clients with slightly 
different "lock up" problems during IPL or what looked like loops and in each 
the root cause was the LPAR only had 2G of real storage and starting a task 
with "high" virtual storage requirements caused a problem due to lack of real 
storage.  For example, the startup of DB2 or IMS during the IPL process.  The 
solution was to add at least .5G of real storage.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:34:58 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
>
>IBM could make file names of manual files reflect the formal manual
>titles, and you could still end up with something difficult to use.
>
Would it be any worse than the 8.3 names we see nowadays?

But yes, the effort could be pretty much doomed by Corporate Standards
requiring titles to begin "International Business Machines® (A New York
Corporation) Multiple Virtual Storage Data Facility ..."

I believe the cross-reference link rot I mentioned earlier is aggravated
because the file names change with each revision and might actually
be alleviated by stable transparent names such as "JCL Reference.pdf"

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 1 May 2017 18:29:39 +, McCabe, Ron  
wrote:

>Hello Listers,
>
>Is anyone running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2?  We are upgrading our z/OS 1.13 
>to 2.2 and CA-SYSVIEW needed to be upgraded too along with applying a required 
>PTF to run on z/OS 2.2.  I got everything updated but when we start/run 
>CA-SYSVIEW it locks up the system and the only way out of it is to IPL.
>
>So if anyone is running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2 did you run into any 
>problems, especially what I just described?  If yes, what was the fix?  I do 
>have an open issue with CA Support on this but sure would like to know what 
>others have run into.
>
>Thanks,
>Ron McCabe
>Mutual of Enumclaw
>
>

Did you open an issue with CA?  Did you take a SADUMP? Did you search the CA 
KB? 
I personally am working on z/OS 2.2 systems with 14.1,  not 14.2, but I know of 
many other systems with 14.2 and z/OS 2.2.

Is this a sandbox LPAR?  How much storage does it have?  I have already been
involved in 3 cases on z/OS 2.2 systems for different clients with slightly 
different
"lock up" problems during IPL or what looked like loops and in each the root 
cause
was the LPAR only had 2G of real storage and starting a task with "high" virtual
storage requirements caused a problem due to lack of real storage.  For example,
the startup of DB2 or IMS during the IPL process.  The solution was to add at 
least
.5G of real storage. 

Regards,

Mark
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Re: Omegamon use?

2017-05-01 Thread Herring, Bobby
The e3270 UI  is working. We are using it with V730 of Omegamon.

Bobby


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Of Norman Hollander on Desertwiz
Sent: May 01 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Omegamon use?

TEMS and TEPS run better on zLinux and Windows platforms.  Plus no major MIPS 
consumed that way.  TEPS does have a lot of additional metrics on it.  There 
was intent to move a lot of into the e3270UI over time.  But really don't think 
that will happen given the state of IBM lately.
zN

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Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 11:01 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Omegamon use?

If you are not adverse to looking at other tools, what functions do you really 
need?  Real time or after the fact?

Some functions will require a lot of resources, some - not so much.  For 
example, if they have to schedule something to run in the address space to 
collect data.

Once you have the list you can look at other options.

Pare down Omegamon

BMC Mainview

CA SYSVIEW

IBM TIVOLI Performance monitors(Not sure of the name)



And I am sure others


Lizette

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> On Behalf Of Lester, Bob
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Omegamon use?
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  Looking for opinions on this.
>
>  We've been running Omegamon (MVS + CICS) forever.  We're a small
> shop.  2 lpars, not shared - monoplexes.
>
>  As I upgrade these products, it seems that the GUI stuff (TEMS?)
> - which we've been avoiding - is more and more prevalent.
>
>  What are folks in my position doing?  I'm tempted to configure
> all of it, but notice that the DSST task is a resource pig, even when
> it's just out of the box.
>
>  Is it worth the resource usage?  Does it provide additional
> functionality?  (Yes, I have RTFM and I still pose the question).  Do
> I even have a choice?
>
>  What are y'all doing?
>
> Thanks!
> BobL
>

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Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/30/2017 09:32 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:
> More than a year ago (it may have been 2012, I just can't remember), I
> put forth an idea that IBM do a search for its manuals based on their
> ID for the manuals, while the user could name that manual from that
> point.
>
> Example: iea2b6a0.pdf might become iea2b6a0_JCL_REF.pdf
>
> This was immediately slapped down as never gonna happen.
>
> But, what if IBM were to do this naming?
>
> Should this be put forth as a Share request/requirement?
>
> Now, on a Linux system I can create a link to that particular manual
> so that it becomes JCL_REF.pdf, but this takes a while to do for each
> manual that I'm interested in. But that's me, how many are you
> interested in?
>
> And if one is a Windows user, can one easily do a link?
>
> Notice, I have these manuals in sub directories by O/S release (yes, I
> also do this for VM as well) so that I can find something that I know
> is specific to a certain version/release.
>
> Regards,
> Steve Thompson
>
>
> On 04/29/2017 08:11 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
>> I rename a few of the manuals (the ones I use all the time), but I
>> too wish the file names of the manuals were the full manual name.  I
>> would hate to think about trying to rename hundreds of manuals each
>> time, I would go nuts, but I do copy about 20 of them that I really
>> care about.
>>
>> Using the index is great (I rename that too), but it still would be
>> nice to have better names on the individual files.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>
Be careful what you wish for.   Reminds me of the old days with a
physical hard copy manual library when we tried to use secretarial types
for putting new manuals in folders and labeling the folders.  We
continually had problems finding things because IBM was terrible about
using very long, very explicit manual titles like "Multiple Virtual
Storage Data Facility Data Set Services  (whatever)", which the help
dutifully copied.  They either ran out of space before they got to the
"whatever" that actually differentiated what the manual was about, or
there was so much verbiage the useful part was hard to find.  We tried
making rules about what parts of titles they could omit or replace with
acronyms, but having the technical staff keep that list updated and
training others how to use it became almost as much work as filing all
the manuals ourselves.  it was a continual battle until we were finally
able to phase out the hard copy library.

IBM could make file names of manual files reflect the formal manual
titles, and you could still end up with something difficult to use.

-- 
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Re: Can XLC printf() take "%D(*,*)"?

2017-05-01 Thread Charles Mills
Same issues. I am actually using vsnprintf(). Just easier to say "printf()."

Charles


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Subject: Re: Can XLC printf() take "%D(*,*)"?

What about just using sprintf into a string and then cout the string?

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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Dave McGuire

On 05/01/2017 04:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Not all offices run Windows, for instance ours run MACS.


And unzip is built into the Finder, so it’s the about same situation: you 
double click on a zip file, and it gets extracted.


Yes.  Well, maybe "Archive Utility".  I'd be less confident about a
self-extracting .zip since it's actually a Windows executable.  But
it might be polymorphic so it's also a conventional .zip.


  Forgive me for jumping in.  Self-extracting ZIP files are generally 
unzippable using standard unzip; it recognizes the prepended unzip 
program and skips over it.


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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-05-01, at 13:59, Pew, Curtis G wrote:

> On May 1, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Edward Gould wrote:
>> 
>> Not all offices run Windows, for instance ours run MACS.
> 
> And unzip is built into the Finder, so it’s the about same situation: you 
> double click on a zip file, and it gets extracted.
>  
Yes.  Well, maybe "Archive Utility".  I'd be less confident about a
self-extracting .zip since it's actually a Windows executable.  But
it might be polymorphic so it's also a conventional .zip.

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Re: S0D5 accessing dataspace

2017-05-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
What is the reason code?

On Mon, 1 May 2017 14:59:54 -0400 Gary Weinhold  wrote:

:>We're experiencing an abend S0D5 that occurs at only one site.  We have an 
authorized program that issues a DSPSERV CREATE SCOPE=ALL to establish a 
dataspace.  It initializes several of the blocks in the dataspace but does not 
touch the rest of the blocks.  It then issues SYSEVENT TRANSWAP and WAITs for 
the ECB to be posted (unless it was already non-swappable).  Then it publishes 
the availability of the dataspace in CSA and WAITs for a MVS STOP command.
:>
:>Later we run a problem state program that invokes a proprietary PC to acquire 
the dataspace ALET (ALESERV) and then accesses the dataspace blocks.  It runs 
fine until it tries to access a block that was not referenced by the dataspace 
creating program.  It then abends S0D5.
:>
:>Are there conditions under which a non-swappable address space can become 
logically swapped out?

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Re: Omegamon use?

2017-05-01 Thread Norman Hollander on Desertwiz
TEMS and TEPS run better on zLinux and Windows platforms.  Plus no major MIPS
consumed that way.  TEPS does have a lot of additional metrics on it.  There was
intent to move a lot of into the e3270UI over time.  But really don't think 
that will
happen given the state of IBM lately.
zN

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Subject: Re: Omegamon use?

If you are not adverse to looking at other tools, what functions do you really 
need?  Real time or after the fact?  

Some functions will require a lot of resources, some - not so much.  For 
example, if they have to schedule something to run in the address space to 
collect data.

Once you have the list you can look at other options.

Pare down Omegamon

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And I am sure others


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> Subject: Omegamon use?
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
>  Looking for opinions on this.
> 
>  We've been running Omegamon (MVS + CICS) forever.  We're a small 
> shop.  2 lpars, not shared - monoplexes.
> 
>  As I upgrade these products, it seems that the GUI stuff (TEMS?) 
> - which we've been avoiding - is more and more prevalent.
> 
>  What are folks in my position doing?  I'm tempted to configure 
> all of it, but notice that the DSST task is a resource pig, even when 
> it's just out of the box.
> 
>  Is it worth the resource usage?  Does it provide additional 
> functionality?  (Yes, I have RTFM and I still pose the question).  Do 
> I even have a choice?
> 
>  What are y'all doing?
> 
> Thanks!
> BobL
> 

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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On May 1, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Edward Gould  wrote:
> 
> Not all offices run Windows, for instance ours run MACS.

And unzip is built into the Finder, so it’s the about same situation: you 
double click on a zip file, and it gets extracted.

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Re: Omegamon use?

2017-05-01 Thread Doug Fuerst
If you don't  need a data warehouse of performance data, you can just 
leave the TEPS/TEMS out as much as possible. A minimal TEMS in the MF is 
enough, but if it is a hog, you can whack it too. To create situations 
is a job unto itself. Omegamon maintenance is also becoming a full time 
job at times.


Doug

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Subject: Omegamon use?


Hi Folks,

 Looking for opinions on this.

 We've been running Omegamon (MVS + CICS) forever. We're a small 
shop. 2 lpars, not shared - monoplexes.


 As I upgrade these products, it seems that the GUI stuff (TEMS?) - 
which we've been avoiding - is more and more prevalent.


 What are folks in my position doing? I'm tempted to configure all 
of it, but notice that the DSST task is a resource pig, even when it's 
just out of the box.


 Is it worth the resource usage? Does it provide additional 
functionality? (Yes, I have RTFM and I still pose the question). Do I 
even have a choice?


 What are y'all doing?

Thanks!
BobL

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Re: Can XLC printf() take "%D(*,*)"?

2017-05-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
What about just using sprintf into a string and then cout the string?

HTH

Peter

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Hmmm. Thanks. Link certainly seems relevant. (Interesting -- the page that 
opens is some weird VM-z/OS hybrid: z/VM z/VM 6.2.0 IBM XL C/C++ for z/VM
z/OS: XL C/C++ Programming Guide Coding: Advanced Topics Using decimal data 
types in C Programming examples.) But I find the same example in the z/OS XLC 
P/G PDF, so macht nichts.

But I consistently get 'D(*,*' for output. Here is my exact format:
"%*.*D(*,*)" and I am calling it with 20, 5, _number, precision, scale. 
(I started out with 20, 5 like in the example just to make my life
easier.)

Here's a rub. The code is C++ and fixed point decimal support is limited to C 
... but ... at the Spring TDM I asked a guy from Toronto why the heck the fixed 
point decimal support is only C and not C++. He told me -- very interesting 
story but I am going to play it safe here and assume it is under NDA. But he 
did tell me that I could call printf() from C++ and format fixed point decimal 
with no issues as printf() is a C function, not C++.

I had not added decimal.h to my code as there is no packed logic other than the 
printf() (data comes in from an external source). I added the #include but 
still no joy. 

I think I will write to the Toronto guy and ask him the same question I asked 
here.

Charles


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Subject: Re: Can XLC printf() take "%D(*,*)"?

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:11:09 -0700, Charles Mills (charl...@mcn.org) wrote 
about "Can XLC printf() take "%D(*,*)"?" (in
<0c3301d2be10$d87ed2b0$897c7810$@mcn.org>):

> I'd like to format fixed point decimal (packed, in other words) 
> numbers in a common subroutine that would be passed the precision and 
> scaling. Can
> printf() and friends take '*' and then a passed integer for its (n,p) 
> values
> - analogous to the way printf() width and precision may be specified?

KC offers this:



This page contains the following:

 printf("pd02 = %*.*D(*,*)\n",
  20, 5, digitsof(pd02), precisionof(pd02), pd02);

This appears to do what you want, but you will need to specify the width and 
decimal places for the output field too.
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Re: AW: BPXWDYN and AVGREC usage

2017-05-01 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/30/2017 06:58 AM, Scott Chapman wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:17:43 -0500, Paul Gilmartin  
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:39:00 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>>> AVGREC is a funny beast. it specifies the multiplier to be applied to the 
>>> primary and secondary space figures. The resulting number is the number of 
>>> records that must fit into the final space allocation. To calculate this 
>>> value, the system needs the (average) record length. This value, however, 
>>> is not taken neither from the LRECL, nor from the BLKSIZE. In JCL, it is 
>>> the first sub-operand of the SPACE= specification.
>>>
>> This is a nightmare.
>>
>> When they say "record" do they mean "block?  Usually?
> I can't say for sure,  but I believe, and the way we always used, going back 
> to the c. 1994 when we started using it, was that the design goal for this 
> support was to give the application programmer a way of space that they 
> understood. After all, they should inherently have an idea of how many 
> records that their job creates or consumes because that has some sort of 
> business connection that they understand. I.E. this job normally processes 
> "x" accounts, each account has "y" records in this file, so we need a file 
> that can hold about x*y records. 
>
> If you have fixed-length records, you know the length of each record. But if 
> you have variable length records, it's a little more variable. But the 
> application programmer should have a decent idea of the average length of 
> those records. 
>
> From there you need to convert those numbers to some number of tracks based 
> on the block size and the average number records per block based on their 
> average record length. By using the AVGREC allocation method, the application 
> programmer can just give the information to the system and let it figure it 
> out instead of doing the math themselves. Which seems like it should make 
> life easier for everybody.
>
> At least that seems like a good theory. In practice I found a distressing 
> number of application programmers who didn't actually know the business 
> numbers--i.e. that they were going to process x accounts each night. To me 
> this seems to be a larger problem than just not being able to allocate space 
> correctly. One might argue that if one is guessing at space allocations, it 
> doesn't really matter what units one is guessing in. 
>
> Over 20 years later, disk is drastically cheaper and larger and so the need 
> to allocate the data set size correctly is probably reduced in many shops. 
> But my guess is that most also don't want every space allocation to be 
> SPACE=(CYL,(1000,1000)).
>
> Having extensively used the AVGREC allocation method 20+ years ago I probably 
> knew the answer to your questions at one time, but the only one I remember 
> for sure is that it works fine with SMS. 
>
> Scott Chapman
>
>
In the context of AVGREC, "record" really was intended to refer to
logical record size, not block size.  In my experience, this type of
allocation was typically used with System Determined Blocksize (SDB),
which means that the actual block size may even be unknown to the JCL
writer.  The values in "SPACE=(size,(pri,sec))" are just used (together
with any AVGREC multiplier) to calculate primary and secondary
bytes-of-data, which are translated into tracks or cylinders by SMS
conventions under the assumption that SDB will result in an optimum
block size with minimal wasted space per track.  When AVGREC is coded,
the convention is that "size" would be average record length; in the
absence of AVGREC "size" was intended by older conventions to be average
block length.  Although that is the convention,  there is nothing that
forces that convention or forces any consistency with actual block size
-- it is only important that the product of any AVGREC value and
size*pri and size*sec result in a reasonable estimate of the total space
requirements in bytes.  In both instances when dealing with RECFM=VB
data sets,  values used for average record size or average block size
are not required to be accurate, only reasonable enough to get adequate
data set space allocated.

If through some serious oversight (like coding something that forces
RECFM=F when RECFM=FB was intended) one forces usage of a very
inefficient block size, then the space allocated based on total byte
requirements under the assumption an efficient block size would be used
may be seriously inadequate if the actual block size results in wasting
much more space in every track.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Steve Smith
Colons are not valid in file names on Windows.  Slashes aren't valid
either, but as they also aren't on Unix, the tool seems to drop them.

Backslashes could be a real mess, as they mean completely different things
on Unix vs. Windows.

sas

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> Tried it on Windows 10 bash shell and got a LOT of 'invalid argument'
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>
> Example:
>
> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_
> Server:_IP_Diagnosis_Guide.pdf’: Invalid argument
> ln: failed to create symbolic link 
> ‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_SNA_Messages.pdf’:
> Invalid argument
> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_
> Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_1_(EZA).pdf’: Invalid argument
> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_
> Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_2_(EZB,_EZD).pdf’: Invalid argument
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Re: new member, need old iron assistance

2017-05-01 Thread Tom Brennan
Wow!  All I can think of is some high voltage going on in there, like 
the flyback transformer in an old tube TV.  I never heard the one I 
worked on, like you say probably because of all the machine noise in the 
tape room.


Pommier, Rex wrote:

Ahh, yes.  The slow refresh rate of the 3290.  I don't know about yours, but we 
could not only watch the 3290 repaint the screen top to bottom, but we could 
also hear it repaint.  Kind of a quiet rattling or rapid clicking sound during 
a refresh.  Couldn't hear it in the machine room, but it was definitely audible 
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Re: new member, need old iron assistance

2017-05-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:

> Possibly a 3278-4, 43 lines deep by 80 chars wide?
>

​Probably. I can't find _any_ pictures of that beast.​



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Re: new member, need old iron assistance

2017-05-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Possibly a 3278-4, 43 lines deep by 80 chars wide?

Peter

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On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Pommier, Rex 
wrote:

> Ahh, yes.  The slow refresh rate of the 3290.  I don't know about yours,
> but we could not only watch the 3290 repaint the screen top to bottom, but
> we could also hear it repaint.  Kind of a quiet rattling or rapid clicking
> sound during a refresh.  Couldn't hear it in the machine room, but it was
> definitely audible in an office setting.
>
> Rex
>

​We had a few 3290s at Equitable in Ft. Worth. I really like them. But the
weirdest one that I've ever seen looked like two 3278-2 set one on top of
the other. I can't find the model number. It had a single screen that
looked about as wide as a 3278-2 and about 2 times as tall as wide.​ I
think it could be configured as one monitor which was _really_ deep. I
would guess 48 or 50 data lines.
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Re: new member, need old iron assistance

2017-05-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Pommier, Rex 
wrote:

> Ahh, yes.  The slow refresh rate of the 3290.  I don't know about yours,
> but we could not only watch the 3290 repaint the screen top to bottom, but
> we could also hear it repaint.  Kind of a quiet rattling or rapid clicking
> sound during a refresh.  Couldn't hear it in the machine room, but it was
> definitely audible in an office setting.
>
> Rex
>

​We had a few 3290s at Equitable in Ft. Worth. I really like them. But the
weirdest one that I've ever seen looked like two 3278-2 set one on top of
the other. I can't find the model number. It had a single screen that
looked about as wide as a 3278-2 and about 2 times as tall as wide.​ I
think it could be configured as one monitor which was _really_ deep. I
would guess 48 or 50 data lines.


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S0D5 accessing dataspace

2017-05-01 Thread Gary Weinhold

We're experiencing an abend S0D5 that occurs at only one site.  We have an 
authorized program that issues a DSPSERV CREATE SCOPE=ALL to establish a 
dataspace.  It initializes several of the blocks in the dataspace but does not 
touch the rest of the blocks.  It then issues SYSEVENT TRANSWAP and WAITs for 
the ECB to be posted (unless it was already non-swappable).  Then it publishes 
the availability of the dataspace in CSA and WAITs for a MVS STOP command.

Later we run a problem state program that invokes a proprietary PC to acquire 
the dataspace ALET (ALESERV) and then accesses the dataspace blocks.  It runs 
fine until it tries to access a block that was not referenced by the dataspace 
creating program.  It then abends S0D5.

Are there conditions under which a non-swappable address space can become 
logically swapped out?




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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 1, 2017, at 1:41 PM, John McKown  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Peter Hunkeler  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.
>> 
>> 
>> ROTFLOL
>> 
> 
> ​I agree. Why would someone who could not do a "regular unzip" operation
> (which is built in to Windows Explorer!) want _anything_ from SHARE? "Hi,
> my name is ??? and I want to work on your multi-million dollar IBM
> mainframe, but I'm not smart enough to use advanced Windows' application
> such as the file explorer. Is that a problem?”​

Not all offices run Windows, for instance ours run MACS.

Ed
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Careful - there may be some snowflakes out there

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Admin rights??

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Peter Hunkeler  wrote:

>
> >I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.
>
>
> ROTFLOL
>

​I agree. Why would someone who could not do a "regular unzip" operation (which 
is built in to Windows Explorer!) want _anything_ from SHARE? "Hi, my name is 
??? and I want to work on your multi-million dollar IBM mainframe, but I'm not 
smart enough to use advanced Windows' application such as the file explorer. Is 
that a problem?"​



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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Peter Hunkeler  wrote:

>
> >I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.
>
>
> ROTFLOL
>

​I agree. Why would someone who could not do a "regular unzip" operation
(which is built in to Windows Explorer!) want _anything_ from SHARE? "Hi,
my name is ??? and I want to work on your multi-million dollar IBM
mainframe, but I'm not smart enough to use advanced Windows' application
such as the file explorer. Is that a problem?"​



>
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Re: new member, need old iron assistance

2017-05-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
Ahh, yes.  The slow refresh rate of the 3290.  I don't know about yours, but we 
could not only watch the 3290 repaint the screen top to bottom, but we could 
also hear it repaint.  Kind of a quiet rattling or rapid clicking sound during 
a refresh.  Couldn't hear it in the machine room, but it was definitely audible 
in an office setting.

Rex

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I worked with a 3290 that had 4 mod-2 displays all visible at once.  I always 
thought it had 4 coax cables, but now I can't remember ever looking at the 
back.  It was in a tape room and had an MVS console for each of 3 systems, with 
the 4th display available as a TSO terminal. 
This was probably a couple of years before TN3270 emulators with multiple 
windows became popular, and I used it myself a bit (I was the tape sysprog at 
the time).  I remember underlines instead if highlighted text, probably because 
the plasma pixels just had two settings - on or off.  I also remember it being 
rather slow displaying text - you could basically watch the text "paint" itself 
from top-to-bottom when a new screen came in from the host.  But hey, you got 
to type on a 3270 keyboard with real Clear and Reset and Erase-EOF keys.  Now I 
feel bad because the one I worked on probably ended up in the trash.

I never heard of the museum, so I googled for the address and there's a 
street-view picture of a guy in a black t-shirt unloading various boxes that 
must be for the museum.

It's less than an hour from a datacenter I worked at last month, so if I need 
to go to Pittsburgh again I'd sure like to see the museum.  And yes, please 
post anything about it here!  Disclaimer: I have absolutely no authority 
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CA-SYSVIEW on z/OS 2.2

2017-05-01 Thread McCabe, Ron
Hello Listers,

Is anyone running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2?  We are upgrading our z/OS 1.13 
to 2.2 and CA-SYSVIEW needed to be upgraded too along with applying a required 
PTF to run on z/OS 2.2.  I got everything updated but when we start/run 
CA-SYSVIEW it locks up the system and the only way out of it is to IPL.

So if anyone is running CA-SYSVIEW 14.2 on z/OS 2.2 did you run into any 
problems, especially what I just described?  If yes, what was the fix?  I do 
have an open issue with CA Support on this but sure would like to know what 
others have run into.

Thanks,
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Mutual of Enumclaw


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AW: Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler

>I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.


ROTFLOL




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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Current (before the "Creators" update) version is Ubuntu 14.04, which only has 
xpdf v3.03.  Xpdf latest version is v3.04, so you may want to wait for the 
"Creators" update to try again.  Or try the Windows binary directly from the 
foolabs site.

My guess is that John M. is probably running the latest Linux version of the 
xpdf tool.

Peter

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Tried it on Windows 10 bash shell and got a LOT of 'invalid argument' messages 
on the ln command - but not on all.

Example:

ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Diagnosis_Guide.pdf’: Invalid argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_SNA_Messages.pdf’: Invalid argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_1_(EZA).pdf’: Invalid 
argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_2_(EZB,_EZD).pdf’: 
Invalid argument


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​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print 
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, they are there in the Win10 bash shell (or rather they are after you 
install the xpdf package).  The Win 10 bash shell is at Ubuntu level 14.04, 
which is a few years old now.  The new version due to hit Win 10 systems soon 
as a big update ("Creators" update) will have Ubuntu version 16.04 which is 
much more recent.

IMHO the availability of a genuine bash shell and all the Ubuntu Linux 
command-line tools is quite an interesting development in the Windows world.

Peter

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I found that under Windows 10 bash you can install the package with pdfinfo and 
it then the command seems to work - I haven't downloaded the zip file yet to 
try it out but sed, awk, etc. all seem to be in place under the bash shell.

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BTW the "pdfinfo" command is available as a Windows binary available at the 
XPDF website:

http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html

The Windows package has only the command-line tools, of which "pdfinfo" is just 
one.  A quite useful set of PDF tools, IMHO.

HTH

Peter

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​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print 
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Tried it on Windows 10 bash shell and got a LOT of 'invalid argument' messages 
on the ln command - but not on all.

Example:

ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Diagnosis_Guide.pdf’: Invalid argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_SNA_Messages.pdf’: Invalid argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_1_(EZA).pdf’: Invalid 
argument
ln: failed to create symbolic link 
‘zOS_V2R2.0_Communications_Server:_IP_Messages_Volume_2_(EZB,_EZD).pdf’: 
Invalid argument


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with 
SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library]

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:32:50 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote:
> >
> >Example: iea2b6a0.pdf might become iea2b6a0_JCL_REF.pdf
> >
> >This was immediately slapped down as never gonna happen.
> >
> >Should this be put forth as a Share request/requirement?
> >
> 8.3 names should be left in the Dark Ages.  The obstacle might be 
> updating all publications to use document titles in cross references 
> instead of 8.3 names.
>
> >Now, on a Linux system I can create a link to that particular manual 
> >so that it becomes JCL_REF.pdf, but this takes a while to do for each 
> >manual that I'm interested in. But that's me, how many are you 
> >interested in?
> >
> >And if one is a Windows user, can one easily do a link?
> >
> I got fancy.  On MacOS X:
>
> I made no changes to the extracted .zip directory.
>
> Working in a new directory (in the same filesystem):
>
> o I created document titles as *hard* links to the 8.3 pdf files.
>
> o I created 8.3 names as symlinks to those hard links.
>
> Now, with Mac Preview, the document titles appear in window title bars 
> and File; Open Recent shows document titles.
>
> Adobe Reader shows the 83 names.
>
> In both cases, cross-references continue to work.
>
> Except, I used the HLASM General Info as a test because it has a nice 
> Bibliography.  But some links there work; others don't.  For example, 
> the link to the JCL User's Guide works; the link to the JCL Reference 
> doesn't.  The filename appears to be wrong.
> I'll submit an RCF.
>
> -- gil
>

​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print 
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Re: Large Scale Systems Museum announcement

2017-05-01 Thread Tom Brennan
And it should look like a 1990's web page (ok, not really).  This was my 
first web page ever - almost 20 years ago: 
http://www.mildredbrennan.com/temp/Kids1997-07/index.htm


And this is ever-so-slightly related to mainframes because I was at a 
job interview in 1997 at Tone Software in Anaheim, and when I mentioned 
my new daughter to the owner I was surprised he took the time to click 
on each link.  Nice guy, and he seemed to really care about his 
employees.  They were doing very well at the time, and had just 
purchased the large building they were in.  They seemed to have way more 
unix programmers than MVS though - which I guess was a sign of the times.


Charles Mills wrote:

I think a Web site hosted on some system that was already "obsolete" when the 
Web became popular would be very cool.


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Re: Omegamon use?

2017-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you are not adverse to looking at other tools, what functions do you really 
need?  Real time or after the fact?  

Some functions will require a lot of resources, some - not so much.  For 
example, if they have to schedule something to run in the address space to 
collect data.

Once you have the list you can look at other options.

Pare down Omegamon

BMC Mainview

CA SYSVIEW

IBM TIVOLI Performance monitors(Not sure of the name)



And I am sure others


Lizette

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> Subject: Omegamon use?
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
>  Looking for opinions on this.
> 
>  We've been running Omegamon (MVS + CICS) forever.  We're a small shop.  2
> lpars, not shared - monoplexes.
> 
>  As I upgrade these products, it seems that the GUI stuff (TEMS?) - which
> we've been avoiding - is more and more prevalent.
> 
>  What are folks in my position doing?  I'm tempted to configure all of it,
> but notice that the DSST task is a resource pig, even when it's just out of
> the box.
> 
>  Is it worth the resource usage?  Does it provide additional
> functionality?  (Yes, I have RTFM and I still pose the question).  Do I even
> have a choice?
> 
>  What are y'all doing?
> 
> Thanks!
> BobL
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I found that under Windows 10 bash you can install the package with pdfinfo and 
it then the command seems to work - I haven't downloaded the zip file yet to 
try it out but sed, awk, etc. all seem to be in place under the bash shell.

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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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BTW the "pdfinfo" command is available as a Windows binary available at the 
XPDF website:

http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html

The Windows package has only the command-line tools, of which "pdfinfo" is just 
one.  A quite useful set of PDF tools, IMHO.

HTH

Peter

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​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print 
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
BTW the "pdfinfo" command is available as a Windows binary available at the 
XPDF website:

http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/download.html

The Windows package has only the command-line tools, of which "pdfinfo" is just 
one.  A quite useful set of PDF tools, IMHO.

HTH

Peter

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​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Omegamon use?

2017-05-01 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Folks,

 Looking for opinions on this.

 We've been running Omegamon (MVS + CICS) forever.  We're a small shop.  2 
lpars, not shared - monoplexes.

 As I upgrade these products, it seems that the GUI stuff (TEMS?) - which 
we've been avoiding - is more and more prevalent.

 What are folks in my position doing?  I'm tempted to configure all of it, 
but notice that the DSST task is a resource pig, even when it's just out of the 
box.

 Is it worth the resource usage?  Does it provide additional functionality? 
 (Yes, I have RTFM and I still pose the question).  Do I even have a choice?

 What are y'all doing?

Thanks!
BobL

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Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread John McKown
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:32:50 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote:
> >
> >Example: iea2b6a0.pdf might become iea2b6a0_JCL_REF.pdf
> >
> >This was immediately slapped down as never gonna happen.
> >
> >Should this be put forth as a Share request/requirement?
> >
> 8.3 names should be left in the Dark Ages.  The obstacle might
> be updating all publications to use document titles in cross
> references instead of 8.3 names.
>
> >Now, on a Linux system I can create a link to that particular
> >manual so that it becomes JCL_REF.pdf, but this takes a while to
> >do for each manual that I'm interested in. But that's me, how
> >many are you interested in?
> >
> >And if one is a Windows user, can one easily do a link?
> >
> I got fancy.  On MacOS X:
>
> I made no changes to the extracted .zip directory.
>
> Working in a new directory (in the same filesystem):
>
> o I created document titles as *hard* links to the 8.3 pdf files.
>
> o I created 8.3 names as symlinks to those hard links.
>
> Now, with Mac Preview, the document titles appear in window title
> bars and File; Open Recent shows document titles.
>
> Adobe Reader shows the 83 names.
>
> In both cases, cross-references continue to work.
>
> Except, I used the HLASM General Info as a test because it has a
> nice Bibliography.  But some links there work; others don't.  For
> example, the link to the JCL User's Guide works; the link to the
> JCL Reference doesn't.  The filename appears to be wrong.
> I'll submit an RCF.
>
> -- gil
>

​How I do it on Linux is to use the "pdfinfo" program. Example:

[tsh009@it-johnmckown-linux Documents]$ pdfinfo dz9zr010.pdf
Title:  z/Architecture Principles of Operation
Subject:z/Architecture
Keywords:
Author: IBM Corporation
Creator:FrameMaker 10.0.2
Producer:   Acrobat Distiller 10.1.13 (Windows)
CreationDate:   Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
ModDate:Thu Feb 19 17:32:41 2015 CST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   AcroForm
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1732
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 792 pts (letter)
Page rot:   0
File size:  15180376 bytes
Optimized:  yes
PDF version:1.6


​So

for i in *.pdf;do ln -s "${i}" $(pdfinfo "${i}" | awk '$1=="Title:" {print
$0;}' | sed -r 's/^Title: *//;s|/||g;s/ +/_/g;').pdf;done

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Re: Manual Naming for Local use [WAS: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library....]

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:32:50 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote:
>
>Example: iea2b6a0.pdf might become iea2b6a0_JCL_REF.pdf
>
>This was immediately slapped down as never gonna happen.
>
>Should this be put forth as a Share request/requirement?
> 
8.3 names should be left in the Dark Ages.  The obstacle might
be updating all publications to use document titles in cross
references instead of 8.3 names.

>Now, on a Linux system I can create a link to that particular
>manual so that it becomes JCL_REF.pdf, but this takes a while to
>do for each manual that I'm interested in. But that's me, how
>many are you interested in?
>
>And if one is a Windows user, can one easily do a link?
>
I got fancy.  On MacOS X:

I made no changes to the extracted .zip directory.

Working in a new directory (in the same filesystem):

o I created document titles as *hard* links to the 8.3 pdf files.

o I created 8.3 names as symlinks to those hard links.

Now, with Mac Preview, the document titles appear in window title
bars and File; Open Recent shows document titles.

Adobe Reader shows the 83 names.

In both cases, cross-references continue to work.

Except, I used the HLASM General Info as a test because it has a
nice Bibliography.  But some links there work; others don't.  For
example, the link to the JCL User's Guide works; the link to the
JCL Reference doesn't.  The filename appears to be wrong.
I'll submit an RCF.

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Re: SMS STORGRP question

2017-05-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
(Replying to a later post for update.) Many thanks to all who participated in 
this thread. We finally got SVCDUMPs working as we desired. As we explored 
various suggestions, we realized that we already had the necessary elements in 
place. Our one (fatal) flaw was the migration threshold for the SVCDUMP group. 
In an ancient attempt to maximize available space, that limit had been set to 
1%. Hence the SVCDUMP group was never again selected for allocation once we 
added OVERFLOW. We didn't even need a low threshold in the first place because 
the RYO SVCDUMP management application itself issues HMIGRATE after digesting a 
particular dump. Solution was simply to raise the threshold to 85%. Except in 
cases of recurring SVC dumps or an abnormally large dump, the intended volumes 
will almost always have room. And in those exceptional cases, OVRFLOW is what 
we want.

Once again IBM-MAIN has come to the rescue. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Greg Shirey
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SMS STORGRP question

Defining a storage group as OVERFLOW provides most of that function by default. 
 I believe the difference is that QUINEW volumes are used as a "last resort" 
whereas OVERFLOW volumes are used when the high threshold will be exceeded.

From "defining storage group attributes" in the Knowledge Center:

If all volumes in a non-overflow storage group are so full that the current 
allocation request will push them over high threshold, while volumes in the 
overflow storage group are not so full, then the new data set will be allocated 
on a volume in the overflow storage group. The assumption is that all other 
attributes of the non-overflow storage group and overflow storage group and the 
volumes in those storage groups are the same
Volumes residing in overflow storage groups are preferred over quiesced volumes 
and storage groups. If you quiesce an overflow storage group or volume then the 
quiesced volumes are preferred over quiesced overflow volumes.


Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Schroeder, Wayne
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS STORGRP question


Hey Jesse,
I have the same setup but I have my OVERFLOW volumes set as QUINEW so they are 
only used if the original SG can't hold all of the data. Hope this helps.

Wayne Schroeder
Mainframe Storage Administrator


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Re: Large Scale Systems Museum announcement

2017-05-01 Thread Charles Mills
I think a Web site hosted on some system that was already "obsolete" when the 
Web became popular would be very cool.

Yes, yes, I know, I have been on the Board of non-profits: "That's a great 
idea. Are you volunteering to do it?"

Charles


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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Large Scale Systems Museum announcement

   The announcement I promised is included below.  It was mostly targeted at 
forums that were already aware of it, but since most people here don't seem to 
have heard of us, I'll explain a bit.

   The LSSM is a public museum that focuses on minicomputers, mainframes, and 
supercomputers.  It has a distinct DEC bias, due to personal experiences and 
affinities of some of the staff, but there's quite a bit of IBM, HP, Cray, and 
other hardware as well.  The goal is for systems here to be runnable and 
demonstrable, and since most of us are also both electronics guys and 
current/former sysadmins, many of our systems do run.

   To name just a few, we have a few IBM System/36s, several early AS/400s, an 
IBM 4341 with peripherals (not yet running), a small S/390 system (running!), 
several Cray vector supercomputers, and more than a dozen DEC PDP-8, PDP-10, 
PDP-11, and VAX systems, most running and hands-on demonstrable.  The museum is 
free, informal, and friendly. 
We're a PA state nonprofit, with federal 501(c)(3) status applied for and 
pending.

   We don't have a real website yet (volunteers..) but there are lots of photos 
on Facebook, search for "Large Scale Systems Museum" there to see.

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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread J R
Yep, my first response was returned because it began with a slash.  Listserv 
thought it might be a command.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2017, at 11:36, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that must have been snipped from some responses - 
> Carmen

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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Thanks, that must have been snipped from some responses - 
Carmen 

- Original Message -

From: "J R"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 10:31:36 AM 
Subject: Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset 

" 
//SORTIN DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(0),UNIT=3390, 

// VOL=SER=TSO020 

DISP defaults to NEW,DELETE. GDG (0) requires OLD or SHR. 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On May 1, 2017, at 11:04, Carmen Vitullo  wrote: 
> 
> Very good pointers from Lizette, I'm confused, I don't see any SORTIN DD 
> where you got your JCL ERROR 

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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread J R
"
//SORTINDD  DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(0),UNIT=3390,

//  VOL=SER=TSO020

DISP defaults to NEW,DELETE.  GDG (0) requires OLD or SHR. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2017, at 11:04, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:
> 
> Very good pointers from Lizette, I'm confused, I don't see any SORTIN DD 
> where you got your JCL ERROR

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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Very good pointers from Lizette, I'm confused, I don't see any SORTIN DD where 
you got your JCL ERROR 


- Original Message -

From: "Lizette Koehler"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 9:46:12 AM 
Subject: Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset 

A few comments 

1) You only need to run the Define GDG once. So that should not be run again 
after the you create the GDG 

2) The z/OS environment no longer needs the parms of DCB=(lrecl,Blksize,..) 
they can all be specified individually. So you can code // 
UNIT=SYSDA,LRECL=xx,BLKSIZE=,RECFM=xx and so forth 

3) IDCAMS does not copy the Dataset attributes from the Input to the OUTPUT 
dataset. You may be able to use LIKE= in the jcl. But LIKE will not use a GDG 
for this function. So you cannot code LIKE=GDG(0). You can code LIKE=MYDATASET 

4) You may wish to use IEBGENER instead of IDCAMS to copy the file. It can copy 
the dataset attributes. There are many examples of how to code IEBGENER on the 
internet and in www.ibm.com. 

5) If you wish to use IDCAMS, then on the output DD include the dataset 
attributes, including SPACE, LRECL, BLKSIZE, etc... 

6) You do not need IEFBR14 to create the GDG generation. It is done for you 
when you code GDG(+1) 

7) If your dataset is controlled by the SMS ACS functions, then it will land in 
an SMS pool and not on the volume you specify. If your dataset is not 
controlled by SMS ACS code, it will land on the VOLSER you specify 


Hope this helps 

Lizette 




> -Original Message- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni 
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:17 AM 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset 
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> Thanks for reply. JCL mentioned in my previous email for creating GDG 
> 
> 
> 
> //DEFGDG JOB 1130,'TEST', 
> 
> // MSGCLASS=T,NOTIFY=,REGION=4096K 
> 
> //BUILD EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> 
> //SYSIN DD * 
> 
> DEFINE GDG (NAME(TEST.TEST.TEMP) - 
> 
> SCRATCH - 
> 
> NOEMPTY - 
> 
> LIM(7)) 
> 
> /* 
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> 
> //SYSUT2 DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1), 
> 
> // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=800), 
> 
> // SPACE=(TRK,(2,20),RLSE),UNIT=3390 
> 
> //SYSIN DD DUMMY 
> 
> /* 
> 
> 
> 
> produces below GDG dataset. 
> 
> 
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP 
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP.G0001V00 
> 
> 
> 
> But, issue comes when I try to copy this GDG into PS file using below JCL. 
> 
> 
> 
> //SOLTSSO JOB (1130),MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,NOTIFY= ,TYP 
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> 
> //INDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),UNIT=3390, 
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020 
> 
> //OUTDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP,UNIT=3390, 
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020 
> 
> //SYSIN DD * 
> 
> REPRO - 
> 
> INFILE(INDD) - 
> 
> OUTFILE(OUTDD) 
> 
> /* 
> 
> 
> 
> Both of these above job produce same error is 
> 
> IEF286I SOLTSSO STEP1 SORTIN - DISP FIELD INCOMPATIBLE WITH DSNAME 
> 
> IEF272I SOLTSSO STEP1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 
> 
> 
> 
> Please correct me, where I am wrong in this whole process and not able to 
> find 
> reason of this copy failure. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01-May-2017 8:05 AM, "Edward Finnell" < 000248cce9f3-dmarc- 
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: 
> 
> JCL 101. 
> 
> It's telling you the DISP parameter doesn't match what you're asking it to 
> do. 
> Default is (NEW,CATLG,DELETE). 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/30/2017 11:47:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com writes: 
> 
> Please correct me, where I am wrong in this whole proess. 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
A few comments

1) You only need to run the Define GDG once.  So that should not be run again 
after the you create the GDG

2) The z/OS environment no longer needs the parms of DCB=(lrecl,Blksize,..)  
they can all be specified individually.  So you can code //  
UNIT=SYSDA,LRECL=xx,BLKSIZE=,RECFM=xx  and so forth

3) IDCAMS does not copy the Dataset attributes from the Input to the OUTPUT 
dataset.  You may be able to use LIKE= in the jcl.  But LIKE will not use a GDG 
for this function.  So you cannot code LIKE=GDG(0).  You can code LIKE=MYDATASET

4) You may wish to use IEBGENER instead of IDCAMS to copy the file.  It can 
copy the dataset attributes.  There are many examples of how to code IEBGENER 
on the internet and in www.ibm.com. 

5) If you wish to use IDCAMS, then on the output DD include the dataset 
attributes, including SPACE, LRECL, BLKSIZE, etc...

6) You do not need IEFBR14 to create the GDG generation.  It is done for you 
when you code GDG(+1)

7) If your dataset is controlled by the SMS ACS functions, then it will land in 
an SMS pool and not on the volume you specify.  If your dataset is not 
controlled by SMS ACS code, it will land on the VOLSER you specify


Hope this helps

Lizette




> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:17 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for reply. JCL mentioned in my previous email for creating GDG
> 
> 
> 
> //DEFGDG  JOB 1130,'TEST',
> 
> // MSGCLASS=T,NOTIFY=,REGION=4096K
> 
> //BUILD  EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> 
> //SYSINDD  *
> 
>DEFINE GDG (NAME(TEST.TEST.TEMP)  -
> 
>SCRATCH-
> 
>NOEMPTY-
> 
>LIM(7))
> 
> /*
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> //SYSUT2   DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),
> 
> //  DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=800),
> 
> //   SPACE=(TRK,(2,20),RLSE),UNIT=3390
> 
> //SYSIN DD DUMMY
> 
> /*
> 
> 
> 
> produces below GDG dataset.
> 
> 
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP.G0001V00
> 
> 
> 
> But, issue comes when I try to copy this GDG into PS file using below JCL.
> 
> 
> 
> //SOLTSSO JOB (1130),MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,NOTIFY= ,TYP
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> //INDD  DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),UNIT=3390,
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020
> 
> //OUTDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP,UNIT=3390,
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020
> 
> //SYSIN DD *
> 
>   REPRO -
> 
>   INFILE(INDD) -
> 
>   OUTFILE(OUTDD)
> 
> /*
> 
> 
> 
> Both of these above job produce same error is
> 
> IEF286I SOLTSSO STEP1 SORTIN - DISP FIELD INCOMPATIBLE WITH DSNAME
> 
> IEF272I SOLTSSO STEP1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.
> 
> 
> 
> Please correct me, where I am wrong in this whole process and not able to find
> reason of this copy failure.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01-May-2017 8:05 AM, "Edward Finnell" < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> JCL 101.
> 
> It's telling you the DISP parameter doesn't match what you're asking it to do.
> Default is (NEW,CATLG,DELETE).
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/30/2017 11:47:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com writes:
> 
> Please  correct me, where I am wrong in this whole  proess.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Steve Smith
People who "don't know how to use regular zip files" are extremely unlikely
to have the knowledge to make any use of the SHARE presentations.

There is no reason to create a so-called self-extracting zip file in this
day & age.  It's either redundant or useless, as well as an unnecessary
security risk.  Many companies will block download of an executable.

sas

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 5/1/2017 at 09:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > Why is that distributed as a "self-extracting" ZIP file?  Does that
>
> I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.
>
> > cause problems on systems other than Windows?  Or can it be
> > extracted with conventional utilities on other systems?
>
> SHARE also provides an ISO file for people that don't want/need the
> self-extracting zip file.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: IXGLOGR internal function

2017-05-01 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Good point Kees,

While I think you are right, DB2 does not access logstreams directly, DB2 uses 
RRS which makes use of logstreams, that the only thing I can think of.

Regards,
Leo


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Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IXGLOGR internal function

Nathan,

Just to be clear: IXGLOGR is the z/OS System Logger task, which manages 
Logstreams. To access a Logstream, you need the macros Leo mentioned. As far as 
I know DB2 does not access Logstreams.

To access other data, you need other tools/macros.

Kees.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Nathan Astle
> Sent: 26 April, 2017 17:34
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IXGLOGR internal function
> 
> Thank you so much. I will go through it.
> 
> Just curious if IXGLOGR is the only way to fetch the data for some.of 
> the products or there any other way ?
> 
> On Apr 26, 2017 8:36 PM, "Leonardo Vaz"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello Nathan!
> >
> > It's through the macros IXGCONN, IXGBRWSE, IXGDELET or IXGWRITE.
> >
> > IBM's Authorized assembler guide is pretty clear on how to use them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Leo
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> > Behalf Of Nathan Astle
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 12:45 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: IXGLOGR internal function
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any Documentation on how DB2 or any address space within 
> > z/OS
> are
> > making use of IXGLOGR ?
> >
> > I Mean internally how are they making the use of IXGLOGR ?
> >
> > The question is just for the knowledge sake and wanted to understand
> how
> > Logstream structures created are making use of IXGLOGR.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nathan Astle
> >
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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 5/1/2017 at 09:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: 
> Why is that distributed as a "self-extracting" ZIP file?  Does that

I suppose because some people don't know how to use regular zip files.

> cause problems on systems other than Windows?  Or can it be
> extracted with conventional utilities on other systems?

SHARE also provides an ISO file for people that don't want/need the 
self-extracting zip file.


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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 May 2017 11:05:01 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote:

>It's the first time I was downloading the proceedings as
>"self-exctracting ZIP file". Can anyone explain why on earth this is
>asking for admin rights on Windows?
> 
Why is that distributed as a "self-extracting" ZIP file?  Does that
cause problems on systems other than Windows?  Or can it be
extracted with conventional utilities on other systems?

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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 May 2017 07:47:24 +0300, venkat kulkarni wrote:
>
>I have requirement to send GDG file to unix  system using SFTP, but OPUT
>command was not accepting this, So, I thought of  adding one more
>additional step into Job for coping GDG dataset to PS file and then PS file
>copy unix directory and then use SFTP to transfer file to other system .
> 
Why not use IEBGENER rather than struggling with OPUT?

>...
>//INDD  DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),UNIT=3390,
>// VOL=SER=TSO020
>...
I've never used GDGs.  But still, incrementing the generation number on
an input data set seems strange to me.

Don't GDGs depend on catalog services?  Doesn't specifying UNIT and
VOL bypass the catalog?

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Re: SHARE Proceedings self-extracting ZIP File requesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Pfister, Nathan
That's all in how the zip was configured (and what program was used) when it 
was created.

Two common issues with self-extracting Zips are the one you are mentioning, 
where it asks for admin privileges to run it and the other where it tells you 
that it may not be installed correctly.

I think it also depends on what directory structure you are attempting to 
extract to/from.

This issue popped up starting in Windows Vista (I think) when UAC (User Access 
Control) was implemented as a new security feature in the OS.

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Subject: SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

It's the first time I was downloading the proceedings as "self-exctracting ZIP 
file". Can anyone explain why on earth this is asking for admin rights on 
Windows?


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SHARE Proceedings self-extacting ZIP File reguesting Admin rights??

2017-05-01 Thread Peter Hunkeler
It's the first time I was downloading the proceedings as 
"self-exctracting ZIP file". Can anyone explain why on earth this is 
asking for admin rights on Windows?



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Re: IXGLOGR internal function

2017-05-01 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Nathan,

Just to be clear: IXGLOGR is the z/OS System Logger task, which manages 
Logstreams. To access a Logstream, you need the macros Leo mentioned. As far as 
I know DB2 does not access Logstreams.

To access other data, you need other tools/macros.

Kees.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Nathan Astle
> Sent: 26 April, 2017 17:34
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IXGLOGR internal function
> 
> Thank you so much. I will go through it.
> 
> Just curious if IXGLOGR is the only way to fetch the data for some.of
> the
> products or there any other way ?
> 
> On Apr 26, 2017 8:36 PM, "Leonardo Vaz"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello Nathan!
> >
> > It's through the macros IXGCONN, IXGBRWSE, IXGDELET or IXGWRITE.
> >
> > IBM's Authorized assembler guide is pretty clear on how to use them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Leo
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Subject: IXGLOGR internal function
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any Documentation on how DB2 or any address space within z/OS
> are
> > making use of IXGLOGR ?
> >
> > I Mean internally how are they making the use of IXGLOGR ?
> >
> > The question is just for the knowledge sake and wanted to understand
> how
> > Logstream structures created are making use of IXGLOGR.
> >
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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Edward Finnell
Sometimes listserv is too smart.
 
   
>//INDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(1),DISP=SHR
>or
>//INDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP.G0001V00,DISP=SHR
>or
>//INDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP.DISP=SHR
 
>//OUTDD  DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMPPS,needs DCB and SPACE parameters with
>   
DISP=(NEW,CATLG)  




In a message dated 5/1/2017 2:46:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gib...@wsu.edu writes:

As  stated. In your second job, you are using the default DISP (because you 
aren't  specifying it at all) for both INDD and OUTDD  


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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
As stated. In your second job, you are using the default DISP (because you 
aren't specifying it at all) for both INDD and OUTDD 

> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:17 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for reply. JCL mentioned in my previous email for creating GDG
> 
> 
> 
> //DEFGDG  JOB 1130,'TEST',
> 
> // MSGCLASS=T,NOTIFY=,REGION=4096K
> 
> //BUILD  EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> 
> //SYSINDD  *
> 
>DEFINE GDG (NAME(TEST.TEST.TEMP)  -
> 
>SCRATCH-
> 
>NOEMPTY-
> 
>LIM(7))
> 
> /*
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> //SYSUT2   DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),
> 
> //  DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=800),
> 
> //   SPACE=(TRK,(2,20),RLSE),UNIT=3390
> 
> //SYSIN DD DUMMY
> 
> /*
> 
> 
> 
> produces below GDG dataset.
> 
> 
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP
> 
> TEST.TEST.TEMP.G0001V00
> 
> 
> 
> But, issue comes when I try to copy this GDG into PS file using below JCL.
> 
> 
> 
> //SOLTSSO JOB (1130),MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,NOTIFY= ,TYP
> 
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
> 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> 
> //INDD  DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),UNIT=3390,
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020
> 
> //OUTDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP,UNIT=3390,
> 
> // VOL=SER=TSO020
> 
> //SYSIN DD *
> 
>   REPRO -
> 
>   INFILE(INDD) -
> 
>   OUTFILE(OUTDD)
> 
> /*
> 
> 
> 
> Both of these above job produce same error is
> 
> IEF286I SOLTSSO STEP1 SORTIN - DISP FIELD INCOMPATIBLE WITH DSNAME
> 
> IEF272I SOLTSSO STEP1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.
> 
> 
> 
> Please correct me, where I am wrong in this whole process and not able to
> find reason of this copy failure.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01-May-2017 8:05 AM, "Edward Finnell" < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> JCL 101.
> 
> It's telling you the DISP parameter doesn't match what you're asking it to do.
> Default is (NEW,CATLG,DELETE).
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/30/2017 11:47:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com writes:
> 
> Please  correct me, where I am wrong in this whole  proess.
> 
> 
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Re: SFTP issue with GDG Dataset

2017-05-01 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello,

Thanks for reply. JCL mentioned in my previous email for creating GDG



//DEFGDG  JOB 1130,'TEST',

// MSGCLASS=T,NOTIFY=,REGION=4096K

//BUILD  EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS

//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*

//SYSINDD  *

   DEFINE GDG (NAME(TEST.TEST.TEMP)  -

   SCRATCH-

   NOEMPTY-

   LIM(7))

/*

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14

//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

//SYSUT2   DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),

//  DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=800),

//   SPACE=(TRK,(2,20),RLSE),UNIT=3390

//SYSIN DD DUMMY

/*



produces below GDG dataset.



TEST.TEST.TEMP

TEST.TEST.TEMP.G0001V00



But, issue comes when I try to copy this GDG into PS file using below JCL.



//SOLTSSO JOB (1130),MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,NOTIFY= ,TYP

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

//INDD  DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP(+1),UNIT=3390,

// VOL=SER=TSO020

//OUTDD DD DSN=TEST.TEST.TEMP,UNIT=3390,

// VOL=SER=TSO020

//SYSIN DD *

  REPRO -

  INFILE(INDD) -

  OUTFILE(OUTDD)

/*



Both of these above job produce same error is

IEF286I SOLTSSO STEP1 SORTIN - DISP FIELD INCOMPATIBLE WITH DSNAME

IEF272I SOLTSSO STEP1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED.



Please correct me, where I am wrong in this whole process and not able to
find reason of this copy failure.




On 01-May-2017 8:05 AM, "Edward Finnell" <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

JCL 101.

It's telling you the DISP parameter doesn't match what you're asking it to
do. Default is (NEW,CATLG,DELETE).


In a message dated 4/30/2017 11:47:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com writes:

Please  correct me, where I am wrong in this whole  proess.



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