Re: CF - CFRM Question.

[Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM]

Did you deactivate and activate the new CF LPARs?

The CFRM CDS has 8 slots to store policies by 'PGM=IXCMIAPU' and different 
names from 'DEFINE POLICY NAME()'.
With SETXCF START,POL,TYPE=CFRM,POLNAME=xx you make one of the policies the 
active policy. This policy is copied to the slot of the 'active policy', so you 
could overwrite the policy with its original name again, without changing the 
'active' policy. Although I recommend using new names for new policies, so you 
can activate the new policy and as easily, you can activate the old policy 
again in case of problems.

Kees.


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> Subject: CF - CFRM Question.
> 
> We are z/OS V2.2. While I was updating the IODF It was decided to change
> the Couple Facility Partition Identifier (CFA) from 8 to 9. Nothing else
> about that partition was changed.
> 
> Also another CF Partition was created as  CFB with Partition Identifier
> 9. At this point nothing is attached to this partition.
> 
> I was informed since the partition ID was changed that the CFRM needed
> to be updated.
> 
> So I added the additional CF NAME  and updated the PARTITION #.
> CF NAME(CFA)
>TYPE(00)
>MFG(IBM)
>PLANT(02)
>SEQUENCE(00094037)
>PARTITION(9)
>CPCID(00)
>DUMPSPACE(367002)
> 
> CF NAME(CFB)
>TYPE(00)
>MFG(IBM)
>PLANT(02)
>SEQUENCE(00094037)
>PARTITION(8)
>CPCID(00)
>DUMPSPACE(367002)
> 
> Also updated all STRUCTURE's with PREFLIST with CFA & CFB.
> 
> STRUCTURE NAME(XX__X)
>SIZE(172128)
>INITSIZE(114752)
>FULLTHRESHOLD(90)
>ALLOWAUTOALT(NO)
>REBUILDPERCENT(1)
>DUPLEX(DISABLED)
>PREFLIST(CFA,CFB)
> 
> Then executed the utility and received a Cond code 0.
> 
> During the IPL the following message was received:
> 
> IXC518I SYSTEM  not using CF
> 
> Reason: Not in the CFRM active policy
> Reason Flag: 1332.
> 
> NOT IN THE CFRM ACTIVE POLICY. REASON FLAG: reason.
> The CFRM active policy does not have this coupling facility defined. The
> coupling facility is connected to the system but will not be used since
> not in CFRM active policy.
> 
> After that re-occurring error messages .
> 
> At this point I decide to change the partition number back to 8 in the
> HMC and re-activated the CF.
> I also put back in place the old CFRM. RE-IPL and was able to
> successfully bring the system back up.
> 
> What would be the correct way to update this ?  What I have been able to
> find is to create a new CFRM and then perform a SETXCF
> START,POLICY,TYPE=CFRM,POLNAME=CFRM.
> Do I update the current CFRM?
> Can I use the same POLNAME ?
> How do I switch to the updated CFRM ?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> We were also wondering  how the system was able to use the partition #
> defined in the CFRM  as partition 8 but the IODF has it defined as
> partition 9.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

[Matt Hogstrom]

Sorry, dyslexic memory

slack.openmainframeproject.org 

WRT z/OSMF.  Right now Zowe is leveraging the z/OSMF APIs.  We are discussing 
whether we should pre-req or provide an abstraction for some of the APIs ..  
for instance, file services can easily use a delegating pattern and we could 
plug in different providers.  Capabilities like Workflows requires a more 
substantial investment.  Let us know via Slack or e-mail your preference.  We 
understand z/OSMF has traditionally been a rather huge pre-req.

Matt Hogstrom


“It may be cognitive, but, it ain’t intuitive."
— Hogstrom

> On Aug 16, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Rob Schramm  wrote:
> 
> Is that slack url correct??
> 
> Rob
> 
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 4:28 PM Kirk Wolf  wrote:
> 
>> You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without z/OSMF
>> ?
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it is worthwhile. I  can understand why you are dubious WRT
>>> previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using
>>> cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes
>> from
>>> Google. They have
>>> embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks
>>> good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But this
>> is
>>> hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is
>>> free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but it
>>> appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from
>> their
>>> 3270 emulation suite (commerical).
>>> Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most of
>>> us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
>>> 
 Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹
 
 I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another
 attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF and
 provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile -
>> I'm
 not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270
>> with a
 multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF
>> option)
 does not seem like a step in the right direction.
 
 
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>> On
 Behalf Of David Crayford
 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:27 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes
 
 Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are
 overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize
>> the
 mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was
>> missing
 parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a
>> anti-climax.
 Has anybody
 managed to install Zowe successfully?
 
 [1] https://zowe.org
 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

[Rob Schramm]

Is that slack url correct??

Rob

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 4:28 PM Kirk Wolf  wrote:

> You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without z/OSMF
> ?
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford 
> wrote:
>
> > I think it is worthwhile. I  can understand why you are dubious WRT
> > previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using
> > cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes
> from
> > Google. They have
> > embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks
> > good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But this
> is
> > hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is
> > free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but it
> > appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from
> their
> > 3270 emulation suite (commerical).
> > Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most of
> > us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
> >
> >> Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹
> >>
> >> I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another
> >> attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF and
> >> provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile -
> I'm
> >> not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270
> with a
> >> multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF
> option)
> >> does not seem like a step in the right direction.
> >>
> >> 
> >> --
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> >> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> >> Behalf Of David Crayford
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:27 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes
> >>
> >> Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are
> >> overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize
> the
> >> mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was
> missing
> >> parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a
> anti-climax.
> >> Has anybody
> >> managed to install Zowe successfully?
> >>
> >> [1] https://zowe.org
> >>
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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Gibney, Dave]

I avoid the Knowledge base. Last time I was there, it was really poor for 
sequential reading

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> Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
> 
> Think Ed Jaffe mentioned they are bringing back lookat under new wrappers
> in knowledge base.
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www-
> 2D01.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_lookatkc-
> 3FOpenDocument&d=DwIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8Ldrrv
> xQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=vjzQKBznNqcKo3dRlFo7y022d9H
> cy8kYuF6irKI8DJ8&s=ltaXJi_o_DesKItfkJLPuss5CnzFx__LTY8s4T0oOoE&e=
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't make it find idc3009I rc xx for anything. In a message
> dated 8/16/2018 5:07:29 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu
> writes:
> 
> 
> Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the
> search on into bookie and took you right to it.
> 
> 
> And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn
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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Edward Finnell]

Think Ed Jaffe mentioned they are bringing back lookat under new wrappers in 
knowledge base.


https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/lookatkc?OpenDocument
 
Unfortunately, I can't make it find idc3009I rc xx for anything.  
In a message dated 8/16/2018 5:07:29 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu 
writes:

 
Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the search 
on into bookie and took you right to it. 


And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn

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Re: VM Listserv

[Robert Hughes]

Haven't touched z/VM in years, but still remember more than I forgot.  😊


Robert


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Subject: Re: VM Listserv

So there might be a couple out there

Linux   http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-VM


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Hope this helps.

Or post to IBM Main, there are probably some here that can answer questions.

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Gibney, Dave]

Using the PoP, with its two column format as a single example of "bookie" can't 
be useful is just wrong.

Bookmanager format was (is) very good for searching, and for reading parts 
sequentially. 

Especially searching. Doing a search from the Shelf organizer passed the search 
on into bookie and took you right to it. 

And let's not even think about the return to pain .PDF is for Idc3009 rc nn

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> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:42 PM
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> Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
> 
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:02 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
> >>
> >> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have
> >> Bookmanager format be returned to service :)
> >
> >Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it
> >for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely
> >others would take it and run with it.
> >
> Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it?  On what
> variety of platforms?  PDF and HTML readers, in contrast, seem to support
> themselves.
> 
> They'd need also to open source the content.
> 
> Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie.  What
> refracturing would be necessary to extend that capacity?  I suspect IBM
> investigated and shied away.
> 
> It's irritating to find a manual split, like Assembler Services, at an 
> arbitrary
> point in the alphabet merely to conform to processor capacity.
> 
> Long ago, we compared prices of Bookie reader for Solaris(?), XA(?), PC.  The
> difference exceeded the cost of the PC.  Easy business decision.
> 
> --gil
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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:02 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>>
>> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager 
>> format be returned to service :)
>
>Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it
>for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely
>others would take it and run with it.
> 
Would there be sufficient community interest to maintain it?  On what
variety of platforms?  PDF and HTML readers, in contrast, seem to support
themselves.

They'd need also to open source the content.

Some years ago, the PoOps outgrew the capacity of Bookie.  What refracturing
would be necessary to extend that capacity?  I suspect IBM investigated and
shied away.

It's irritating to find a manual split, like Assembler Services, at an arbitrary
point in the alphabet merely to conform to processor capacity.

Long ago, we compared prices of Bookie reader for Solaris(?), XA(?), PC.  The
difference exceeded the cost of the PC.  Easy business decision.

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Chris Hoelscher]

I would be happy if it came back I meant to say (db2?)

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-Original Message-
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Tony Harminc
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On 16 August 2018 at 16:48, Chris Hoelscher  wrote:
> What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for 
> one)

What IBM product that uses Bookmanager format are you a Happy Customer of? I 
had understood that Bookie format had been deprecated entirely.

Tony H.

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Tony Harminc]

On 16 August 2018 at 16:48, Chris Hoelscher  wrote:
> What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for one)

What IBM product that uses Bookmanager format are you a Happy Customer
of? I had understood that Bookie format had been deprecated entirely.

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Chris Hoelscher]

What's in it for IBM(bookmanager format)?? - happy customers (me for one)

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On 16 August 2018 at 16:06, Gibney, Dave  wrote:
> I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the 
> manuals. And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader
>
> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager 
> format be returned to service :)

Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it for IBM 
to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely others would take 
it and run with it.

Tony H.

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Tony Harminc]

On 16 August 2018 at 16:06, Gibney, Dave  wrote:
> I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the manuals. 
> And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader
>
> And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager format 
> be returned to service :)

Or to have Bookmanager format open sourced...? Seriously, what's in it
for IBM to sit on a data format it no longer uses or supports? Surely
others would take it and run with it.

Tony H.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

[Kirk Wolf]

You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without z/OSMF
?

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford  wrote:

> I think it is worthwhile. I  can understand why you are dubious WRT
> previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using
> cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes from
> Google. They have
> embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks
> good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But this is
> hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is
> free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but it
> appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from their
> 3270 emulation suite (commerical).
> Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most of
> us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway.
>
>
>
> On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
>
>> Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹
>>
>> I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another
>> attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF and
>> provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile - I'm
>> not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270 with a
>> multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF option)
>> does not seem like a step in the right direction.
>>
>> 
>> --
>> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor)  <
>> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of David Crayford
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:27 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes
>>
>> Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are
>> overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize the
>> mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was missing
>> parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a anti-climax.
>> Has anybody
>> managed to install Zowe successfully?
>>
>> [1] https://zowe.org
>>
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CF - CFRM Question.

[Steely.Mark]

We are z/OS V2.2. While I was updating the IODF It was decided to change the 
Couple Facility Partition Identifier (CFA) from 8 to 9. Nothing else about that 
partition was changed. 

Also another CF Partition was created as  CFB with Partition Identifier 9. At 
this point nothing is attached to this partition.

I was informed since the partition ID was changed that the CFRM needed to be 
updated. 

So I added the additional CF NAME  and updated the PARTITION #. 
CF NAME(CFA) 
   TYPE(00)
   MFG(IBM)
   PLANT(02)   
   SEQUENCE(00094037)  
   PARTITION(9)
   CPCID(00)   
   DUMPSPACE(367002)   
   
CF NAME(CFB) 
   TYPE(00)
   MFG(IBM)
   PLANT(02)   
   SEQUENCE(00094037)  
   PARTITION(8)
   CPCID(00)   
   DUMPSPACE(367002)   

Also updated all STRUCTURE's with PREFLIST with CFA & CFB. 

STRUCTURE NAME(XX__X)   
   SIZE(172128)  
   INITSIZE(114752)  
   FULLTHRESHOLD(90) 
   ALLOWAUTOALT(NO)  
   REBUILDPERCENT(1) 
   DUPLEX(DISABLED)  
   PREFLIST(CFA,CFB)

Then executed the utility and received a Cond code 0. 

During the IPL the following message was received:

IXC518I SYSTEM  not using CF

Reason: Not in the CFRM active policy
Reason Flag: 1332.

NOT IN THE CFRM ACTIVE POLICY. REASON FLAG: reason.
The CFRM active policy does not have this coupling facility defined. The 
coupling facility is connected to the system but will not be used since not in 
CFRM active policy.

After that re-occurring error messages . 

At this point I decide to change the partition number back to 8 in the HMC and 
re-activated the CF. 
I also put back in place the old CFRM. RE-IPL and was able to successfully 
bring the system back up. 

What would be the correct way to update this ?  What I have been able to find 
is to create a new CFRM and then perform a SETXCF 
START,POLICY,TYPE=CFRM,POLNAME=CFRM.
Do I update the current CFRM? 
Can I use the same POLNAME ?
How do I switch to the updated CFRM ?

Any help would be appreciated. 

We were also wondering  how the system was able to use the partition # defined 
in the CFRM  as partition 8 but the IODF has it defined as partition 9.

Thank You 

   
 

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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Gibney, Dave]

I like and use Softcopy Librarian to maintain my local copies of the manuals. 
And the Shelf Organizer piece of Softcopy Reader

And I will once again reiterate the futile request to have Bookmanager format 
be returned to service :)

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Susan Shumway
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
> 
> Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories for
> the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make available
> Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases (thanks, Geoff
> Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet Library Archive page for
> links to all of the information:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_servers_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zos-
> 2Dlibrary-
> 2Darchives&d=DwIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-
> vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=pcfbr_OjAUjcgo-
> njoH7KxsvuKUIhVCVi4NGvTgeqp4&e=
> 
> Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of any of
> these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as soon as
> they're available), as long-term replacements of the served Library Server
> content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes sense to move to
> more current content retrieval methods if possible.
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -Sue Shumway
> 
> 
> On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server.
> > The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the
> > content that is linked from
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_serve
> > rs_resourcelink_svc00100.nsf_pages_zos-2Dlibrary-
> 2Darchives&d=DwIFaQ&c
> > =C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&
> > m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=pcfbr_OjAUjcgo-
> njoH7Kx
> > svuKUIhVCVi4NGvTgeqp4&e= , encountered a problem and went down. So,
> > all links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to
> > investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll
> > keep you posted.
> >
> > The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you
> > just need to use a different method to access it:
> > 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of
> > whatever content you need. See
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo
> > rt_docview.wss-3Fuid-
> 3Dswg24000640&d=DwIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk
> > 4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3
> > -vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=rqObtIzgsvSSdguTEP2-
> txQn3s0wa42BKhq5loJNh0w&e=
> > to download Softcopy Librarian and
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo
> > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW-
> 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1_toc.htm&d=D
> > wIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo
> > 5sWE9w&m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-
> vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=osP0wrwiBpHsQ2g
> > 18DS6YX5YAEG39urNrA1CySiVBs0&e=
> > for more information about it.
> > 2. View the content using one of two methods:
> > --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you
> > can use it to host the content locally. See
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo
> > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW-
> 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks_bks.htm&d=DwIFa
> > Q&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE
> > 9w&m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-
> vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=XCzCw3mz52a_9qlkIo0
> > kAFNtJM0ZjCj3r4KBO7p3scU&e= for more information about Library
> Server.
> > --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate
> > tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader
> > for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_suppo
> > rt_knowledgecenter_SSLTBW-
> 5F2.3.0_com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02_toc.htm&d=D
> > wIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQb-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo
> > 5sWE9w&m=2_CBOYm8VhSZPXTYnf7ZYn3-
> vxvEiDL90yG6RlTYciE&s=z9bd6PGb-34sCaM
> > SULbTkObEPx5AVMy-ApfDIYFrZ8U&e= for more information about
> Softcopy
> > Reader.
> >
> > -Sue Shumway
> >
> > On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops
> >>> running unsupported HW and SW.
> >>> As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only
> >>> existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available).
> >>>
> >>> How are those people going to get the necessary information?
> >>>
> >>
> >> good question. I am glad that I am a pac

Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Don Poitras]

While I have some sympathy for wanting new content to be delivered in whatever
way is easiest and/or most maintainable, I just can't agree that dropping 
the old web pages has any benefit. So now, instead of clicking on a book
and seeing the content, I have to download a pdf or a boo file? Why would
I? Almost all of my z/OS bookmarks are now dead. I guess that's one way
to force us to use the knowledgecenter.


In article  you wrote:
> Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories 
> for the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make 
> available Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases 
> (thanks, Geoff Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet 
> Library Archive page for links to all of the information: 
> https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives

> Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of 
> any of these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as 
> soon as they're available), as long-term replacements of the served 
> Library Server content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes 
> sense to move to more current content retrieval methods if possible. 
> Thanks in advance!

> -Sue Shumway


> On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. 
> > The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the 
> > content that is linked from 
> > https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives
> >  
> > , encountered a problem and went down. So, all links to those domains 
> > won't work. The involved teams continue to investigate solutions, but 
> > there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll keep you posted.
> > 
> > The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you 
> > just need to use a different method to access it:
> > 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of 
> > whatever content you need. See 
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 to download 
> > Softcopy Librarian and 
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1/toc.htm
> >  
> > for more information about it.
> > 2. View the content using one of two methods:
> > --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you 
> > can use it to host the content locally. See 
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks/bks.htm
> >  
> > for more information about Library Server.
> > --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate 
> > tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader for 
> > BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See 
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02/toc.htm
> >  
> > for more information about Softcopy Reader.
> > 
> > -Sue Shumway
> > 
> > On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops
> >>> running unsupported HW and SW.
> >>> As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only 
> >>> existed in
> >>> BKM format (there were no PDF's available).
> >>>
> >>> How are those people going to get the necessary information?
> >>>
> >>
> >> good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!)
> >> with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS
> >> Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion
> >> September 2008".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> >>> Of Don Poitras
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM
> >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >>> Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?
> >>>
> >>> In article <
> >>> caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you
> >>> wrote:
>  On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher
>  
>  wrote:
> >>>
> > Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know
> > of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc)
> >>> respond with:
> > "Forbidden: You don't have permission to access  on
> > this server".
> > This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given
> >>> here:
> > https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib
> > m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-
> > archives&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645
> > 7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366
> > 99371056784819&sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A
> > %3D&reserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server
> > was going away?
> >
>  Must 

Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Allan Staller]

Thanks Sue, John, et. al. for the prompt response.



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Susan Shumway
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories for the 
individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make available Adobe 
Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases (thanks, Geoff Smith!!). 
Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet Library Archive page for links to all 
of the information: 
https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-archives&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636700449949520163&sdata=sJV%2FLZrkJZOs%2F9PDiQzIFWvctst7b1NUj659wy7Yn%2Fs%3D&reserved=0

Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of any of 
these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as soon as they're 
available), as long-term replacements of the served Library Server content. 
Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes sense to move to more current 
content retrieval methods if possible. 
Thanks in advance!

-Sue Shumway


On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. 
> The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the 
> content that is linked from
> https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> .ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library
> -archives&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e
> 48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6367004
> 49949520163&sdata=sJV%2FLZrkJZOs%2F9PDiQzIFWvctst7b1NUj659wy7Yn%2F
> s%3D&reserved=0 , encountered a problem and went down. So, all 
> links to those domains won't work. The involved teams continue to 
> investigate solutions, but there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll 
> keep you posted.
> 
> The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you 
> just need to use a different method to access it:
> 1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of 
> whatever content you need. See
> https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fdocview.wss%3Fuid%3Dswg24000640&data=02%7C01%
> 7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de73
> 7c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636700449949520163&sdata=WhbJP
> kH%2BQ9%2Fu8kcCEWWccdPCZRSlnzyfbjJGouqrCCU%3D&reserved=0 to 
> download Softcopy Librarian and
> https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3
> .ebrscl1%2Ftoc.htm&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a
> 7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636700449949520163&sdata=oOAZQjwi%2BnpGnpMeFBCbD%2FrrRa8hDCmz5aB
> EOB9pAuc%3D&reserved=0
> for more information about it.
> 2. View the content using one of two methods:
> --- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you 
> can use it to host the content locally. See
> https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3
> .bks%2Fbks.htm&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a7cb0
> a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C63
> 6700449949520163&sdata=QYbueTY0OoSltWnmC1WomlP8hMrdob85XEIPxjPVbSs
> %3D&reserved=0 for more information about Library Server.
> --- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate 
> tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader 
> for BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See
> https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> .ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2FSSLTBW_2.3.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r3
> .ab0in02%2Ftoc.htm&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C63ff7a
> 7cb0a445e48a5408d603af91c7%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636700449949530172&sdata=LG5u%2B1PR0Bd7kJQnVybK07Hlu9lZEH8tFDn0N
> 2QjkE0%3D&reserved=0 for more information about Softcopy Reader.
> 
> -Sue Shumway
> 
> On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops 
>>> running unsupported HW and SW.
>>> As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only 
>>> existed in BKM format (there were no PDF's available).
>>>
>>> How are those people going to get the necessary information?
>>>
>>
>> good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of 
>> CDs(!) with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even 
>> "MVS Collection Dece

Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Susan Shumway]

You're welcome, David! Please see my most recent post and let me know if 
you still can't take advantage of any of the newly provided options. 
Teams continue to work to make the served Library Server available, but 
its time might be short.


-Sue Shumway

On 8/15/2018 5:52 PM, David Staudacher wrote:

Thanks for the update Sue!
I realize the Library Server docs pertain to no-longer-supported releases, but 
I still use them quite often in cases where essential content hasn't  changed.  
In such cases, I also prefer them in web-posting and email to reference a 
specific page in a given doc since they also have much shorter native URLs than 
the Knowledge Center versions.
I look forward to hearing when the service is restored as Library Server is my 
only means of access here at work, where we are not allowed to self-install any 
software on our company workstations.

  


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Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

[Susan Shumway]

Along with the Softcopy Librarian option, we now also have repositories 
for the individual PDFs and BookManager files and will soon make 
available Adobe Indexed PDF Collections of the archived releases 
(thanks, Geoff Smith!!). Please see the updated IBM z/OS Internet 
Library Archive page for links to all of the information: 
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives


Feedback request: Please let us know what you think of the viability of 
any of these methods, especially the Acrobat Indexed Collections (as 
soon as they're available), as long-term replacements of the served 
Library Server content. Library Server is no longer updated, so it makes 
sense to move to more current content retrieval methods if possible. 
Thanks in advance!


-Sue Shumway


On 8/15/2018 3:27 PM, Susan Shumway wrote:

Hi all,

I was just brought up to speed on what's going on with Library Server. 
The IBM-hosted instance of Library Server, which is what serves the 
content that is linked from 
https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zos-library-archives 
, encountered a problem and went down. So, all links to those domains 
won't work. The involved teams continue to investigate solutions, but 
there is currently no ETA for a fix. We'll keep you posted.


The good news here is that the content itself is still available - you 
just need to use a different method to access it:
1. Use Softcopy Librarian to download PDF and BookManager formats of 
whatever content you need. See 
https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24000640 to download 
Softcopy Librarian and 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ebrscl1/toc.htm 
for more information about it.

2. View the content using one of two methods:
--- If you're running Library Server for z/OS in your enterprise, you 
can use it to host the content locally. See 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bks/bks.htm 
for more information about Library Server.
--- If you're not running Library Server, simply use the appropriate 
tool to access your preferred format of the content: Softcopy Reader for 
BookManager or Adobe Acrobat for PDF. See 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ab0in02/toc.htm 
for more information about Softcopy Reader.


-Sue Shumway

On 8/15/2018 9:48 AM, John McKown wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM Allan Staller  
wrote:



On a more serious note than my previous reply. There are many shops
running unsupported HW and SW.
As I recall, some of the early documentation for z/OS 1.x only 
existed in

BKM format (there were no PDF's available).

How are those people going to get the necessary information?



good question. I am glad that I am a pack rat. I have a number of CDs(!)
with labels like: "OS/390 Collection December 1997" and even "MVS
Collection December 1997" or perhaps more popular "z/OS V1R10 Collecftion
September 2008".







-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
Of Don Poitras
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: "Library Server" Access Now "Forbidden"?

In article <
caajsdjiyzbn3k1wqocx9gn12zjpw7wxjlm3r8n4minherzp...@mail.gmail.com> you
wrote:

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:24 PM David Staudacher

wrote:



Starting yesterday, all the Book Manager/Library Server libs I know
of (publibz.boulder..., publibfp.boulder..., publibfp.dhe, etc)

respond with:

"Forbidden: You don't have permission to access  on
this server".
This includes links provide *by IBM*, such as all the doc links given

here:

https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fib
m.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzos-library-
archives&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C0e8a5a6750b645
7d69cf08d602b45d65%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C6366
99371056784819&sdata=4IJbJ7XQGaElZclDKz2Xn0EOXz6DbO8l8Y0slOiX31A
%3D&reserved=0 Did I miss an announcement that Library Server
was going away?


Must be fixed. I just went to the above with no problems. 12:09 UTC
(7:09 a.m. US Central).
--
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Maranatha! <>< John McKown


FSVO "fixed". If you click on one of the book manager links, you 
still get

"Forbidden".


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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:26:14 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>You don't need to use the SSI to read a spool data set, although you do
>need a way to get the JES SSID and jobid (like from the current JSAB).
>
>It is not too complicated: you just allocate it using SVC99 (and some
>special purpose keys) and open the DD with either a DCB or ACB.
>See Chapter 2 in "z/OS JES Application Programming" - JES Spool Data Set
>Browse
>
Is the Rexx API to SDSF available outside TSO?  E.g. in IRXJCL?
(The hard part may be discovering your own JOBID.)


>PS> You can use our free Co:Z Utilities in batch to read any spool file and
>pass the data to your program.
>For example:
>
>//SHELL EXEC PGM=COZBATCH
>//STDIN DD *# Run z/OS UNIX login shell
>
># get the 8 character jobid of the current job
>jobid=$(echo $JES_SYS_CORR_CURRJOB | cut -c1-8)
>
>fromdsn -jes.$jobid.jesjclin  |
>awk myreport.awk  # or your program that reads from /dev/stdin

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Re: VM Listserv

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:47:50 +, William Widmayer wrote:

>Hi Folks.
>Is the VM listserv available?
>
Subject: Request -- Thanks!
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:58:21 -0600
To: The IBM z/VM Operating System 

HELP
INFO IBMVM
Thanks

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Re: VM Listserv

[Lizette Koehler]

So there might be a couple out there

Linux   http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-VM


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Or post to IBM Main, there are probably some here that can answer questions.

Lizette


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Re: SMF type 119 (FTP) subtypes 70 and 72

[Pierre Fichaud]

The dataset in the FTPSERVE STC for the DDNAME SYSTCPD must have the 
following:


SMF STD SMF type 118 - subtypes 70-75

SMF TYPE119 SMF type 119 - subtypes 70-72

Otherwise, they types/subtypes don't get generated.

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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Charles Mills]

Nope, I mis-recalled. He wants the first jobstep to read its own JCL. Simpler 
answers than SSI should work. 



CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
 Original message From: Charles Mills  Date: 
8/16/18  11:46 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 
Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample 
Didn't the OP want to change the dataset?



CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
 Original message From: Kirk Wolf  
Date: 8/16/18  11:26 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 
JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample 
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:

> A short answer is check out the SSI (Subsystem Interface) manual. Not for
> the feint-hearted.
>

You don't need to use the SSI to read a spool data set, although you do
need a way to get the JES SSID and jobid (like from the current JSAB).

It is not too complicated: you just allocate it using SVC99 (and some
special purpose keys) and open the DD with either a DCB or ACB.
See Chapter 2 in "z/OS JES Application Programming" - JES Spool Data Set
Browse

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS> You can use our free Co:Z Utilities in batch to read any spool file and
pass the data to your program.
For example:

//SHELL EXEC PGM=COZBATCH
//STDIN DD *    # Run z/OS UNIX login shell

# get the 8 character jobid of the current job
jobid=$(echo $JES_SYS_CORR_CURRJOB | cut -c1-8)

fromdsn -jes.$jobid.jesjclin  |
    awk myreport.awk  # or your program that reads from /dev/stdin
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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Charles Mills]

Didn't the OP want to change the dataset?



CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
 Original message From: Kirk Wolf  
Date: 8/16/18  11:26 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 
JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample 
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:

> A short answer is check out the SSI (Subsystem Interface) manual. Not for
> the feint-hearted.
>

You don't need to use the SSI to read a spool data set, although you do
need a way to get the JES SSID and jobid (like from the current JSAB).

It is not too complicated: you just allocate it using SVC99 (and some
special purpose keys) and open the DD with either a DCB or ACB.
See Chapter 2 in "z/OS JES Application Programming" - JES Spool Data Set
Browse

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS> You can use our free Co:Z Utilities in batch to read any spool file and
pass the data to your program.
For example:

//SHELL EXEC PGM=COZBATCH
//STDIN DD *    # Run z/OS UNIX login shell

# get the 8 character jobid of the current job
jobid=$(echo $JES_SYS_CORR_CURRJOB | cut -c1-8)

fromdsn -jes.$jobid.jesjclin  |
    awk myreport.awk  # or your program that reads from /dev/stdin
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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Kirk Wolf]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:

> A short answer is check out the SSI (Subsystem Interface) manual. Not for
> the feint-hearted.
>

You don't need to use the SSI to read a spool data set, although you do
need a way to get the JES SSID and jobid (like from the current JSAB).

It is not too complicated: you just allocate it using SVC99 (and some
special purpose keys) and open the DD with either a DCB or ACB.
See Chapter 2 in "z/OS JES Application Programming" - JES Spool Data Set
Browse

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS> You can use our free Co:Z Utilities in batch to read any spool file and
pass the data to your program.
For example:

//SHELL EXEC PGM=COZBATCH
//STDIN DD *# Run z/OS UNIX login shell

# get the 8 character jobid of the current job
jobid=$(echo $JES_SYS_CORR_CURRJOB | cut -c1-8)

fromdsn -jes.$jobid.jesjclin  |
awk myreport.awk  # or your program that reads from /dev/stdin
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Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Yes the binder API header as coded does cause harm when included in a MetalC 
program.  Below is the result of including the binder API header as provided by 
IBM:

ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:659   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:658   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:657   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:588   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:583   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:579   External variable __IEW_GE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:701   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:699   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:698   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:697   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:695   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:690   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:687   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:685   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:683   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:680   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:678   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:675   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:672   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:670   External variable __IEW_FD cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:661   External variable __IEW_SE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:644   External variable __IEW_SE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:638   External variable __IEW_RE cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:613   External variable __IEW_IN cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:610   External variable __IEW_IN cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:607   External variable __IEW_IN cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:604   External variable __IEW_IN cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:600   External variable __IEW_IN cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:561   External variable __IEW_AL cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:548   External variable __IEW_AL cannot 
be redefined.   
ERROR CCN3244 /usr/include/__iew_api.h:530   External variable __IEW_AD cannot 
be redefined.   
CCN0793(I) Compilation failed for file //'TSOUSER.TEST.CSRC(TESTBIND)'.  Object 
file not created.

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Of Steve Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC

Metal C is an alternative to assembler in some situations, particularly where 
the overhead of setting up LE is a problem, and also not needed.

If you want to use it as an "assembler replacement", then you'll need to avoid 
pulling in header files generated for LE C.

If you want to use Metal C, then you live with its restrictions and 
limitations.  IBM won't and can't make it work just like real C.

And btw, you didn't answer Peter Relson's question: "... does its presence 
cause you harm? "

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Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC

[Steve Smith]

Metal C is an alternative to assembler in some situations, particularly
where the overhead of setting up LE is a problem, and also not needed.

If you want to use it as an "assembler replacement", then you'll need to
avoid pulling in header files generated for LE C.

If you want to use Metal C, then you live with its restrictions and
limitations.  IBM won't and can't make it work just like real C.

And btw, you didn't answer Peter Relson's question: "... does its presence
cause you harm? "

sas

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Re: Zowe install woes

[Matt Hogstrom]

This is a beta so there is still lots of room for improvement.  The install 
scripts are located in ./zowe-0.9.0/install.  Its fairly straight forward.  You 
update a yaml file to customize it to your environment and then run the install 
script.  I really want feedback on installation issues as every z/OS system, 
configurations, etc. are different across the customers and we want to ensure 
that we make the process as easy as possible.

At this stage of the beta, we do assume z/OSMF is running but we're leaning 
away from that approach and will work with z/OSMF if its installed.

We are in the process of moving from a practice community IBM, Rocket and CA 
collaborated in and have moved most everything to https://github.com/zowe ... 
we're continuing to move items.  

If you have questions it would be really helpful to join the Slack channel at 
openmainframeproject.slack.org.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

[Matt Hogstrom]

Someone forwarded me a link to this thread about Zowe.  I am part of the Zowe 
project and would be happy to answer any questions you have.  

From the thread so far there are some good questions.  I'll try and answer them 
here.

Zowe's mission is to provide a rallying point for improving administrative / 
management capabilities on z/OS so we can lower the barrier for new system 
programmers and developers that are not interested in the platform.  Zowe is a 
collection of technologies from CA, IBM and Rocket that are broadly broken down 
into REST APIs and management, Web Desktop (we call this zLUX) and a command 
line interface.  The breakdown of initial contribution was IBM, Rocket and CA 
for the components described before.

Why?
A rising tide lifts all boats has been a common discussion point in the team.  
z/OS has traditionally been proprietary and this has created barriers that make 
interoperability across administrative and management domains a challenge.  The 
founding members (and read this as exactly that, founding members, we are 
reaching out to Synsort, BMC, Compuware and all the other ISVs to come and work 
with us.).   The intent is that we can make better applications through a REST 
enablement and modern technology.  This is not closed, all source is EPL 2.0 
and resides in a public GitHub at https://github.com/zowe.

How does this related to z/OSMF?
Think of z/OSMF as a collection of RESTful services.  Workflows, Notifications, 
Console access, files, ... .  Zowe will exploit the existing services in z/OSMF 
but we are also innovating with other industry vendors on new capabilities 
which z/OSMF is not doing.  Its an IBM product and we expect it will consume 
Zowe capabilities but we take the approach that we like RESTful services build 
on a secure fabric of SAF authentication.

If you have questions where the community is listening I'd venture over to 
openmainframeproject.slack.com.  Slack is open to anyone and you can particpate 
in the conversation.  Tell us where we're broken and suggest how we can 
improve.  

Feel free to reach out by e-mail, slack and join the community.

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Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC

[Charles Mills]

Dumb question: why NOT use real C where all those problems go away?



CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
 Original message From: "Farley, Peter x23353" 
 Date: 8/16/18  10:33 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC 
Peter,

(Good name by the way ... :)  It is not important to separate the data from the 
prototypes, that was just one method to achieve the desired end result - the 
ability to use the __iew_api.h C language data definitions in a MetalC program 
where one cannot use the predefined C language API functions or their 
prototypes.

The problem is that in MetalC with the NOLONGNAMmailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Peter Relson
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC


for future maintainability it sure would be nice if IBM split the 
/usr/include/__iew_api.h into two parts - Data definitions and function 
prototypes.


OK, I'll bite.

Why is it important to separate the data from the function prototype? 
Isn't the existing one syntactically correct? It might not be usable in Metal 
C, but does its presence  cause you harm?

Could you use #define to "change" the name to something else if you needed a 
different name?

And, out of curiosity, do you have a requirement to avoid an LE runtime for 
whatever you are doing here? Metal C is intended to solve a problem, it is not 
intended to let you do everything you can do in C.

Perhaps what you really want is, in addition to what is there, a function 
prototype that would let you provide the target address (e.g., iew_byaddr). 
You would have to get that address (such as by LOAD through __asm).  That 
pre-supposes that the target routine actually supports a call using a 
"standard" parameter list which it sounds like the binder API's do.

If an additional function prototype would help, that would be a reasonable 
thing to ask for.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: Strange problem with Single Object Operations (HMC)

[Dana Mitchell]

Radoslaw,

I found this version on resourcelink: 

https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/0/3E9D1B6DE8C163F985258195006801CC/$file/HMCversion2140.pdf

At this shop they have firewalls everywhere and I have to request every port to 
be opened,  my pet peeve is vendors products that don't clearly document what 
ports are needed for what functions...

Dana

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:55:09 +0200, R.S.  wrote:

>It was checked, but not twice (trust nobody...).
>BTW: What FM documents the ports?
>
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Re: Using the Binder API and MetalC

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Peter,

(Good name by the way ... :)  It is not important to separate the data from the 
prototypes, that was just one method to achieve the desired end result - the 
ability to use the __iew_api.h C language data definitions in a MetalC program 
where one cannot use the predefined C language API functions or their 
prototypes.

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for future maintainability it sure would be nice if IBM split the 
/usr/include/__iew_api.h into two parts - Data definitions and function 
prototypes.


OK, I'll bite.

Why is it important to separate the data from the function prototype? 
Isn't the existing one syntactically correct? It might not be usable in Metal 
C, but does its presence  cause you harm?

Could you use #define to "change" the name to something else if you needed a 
different name?

And, out of curiosity, do you have a requirement to avoid an LE runtime for 
whatever you are doing here? Metal C is intended to solve a problem, it is not 
intended to let you do everything you can do in C.

Perhaps what you really want is, in addition to what is there, a function 
prototype that would let you provide the target address (e.g., iew_byaddr). 
You would have to get that address (such as by LOAD through __asm).  That 
pre-supposes that the target routine actually supports a call using a 
"standard" parameter list which it sounds like the binder API's do.

If an additional function prototype would help, that would be a reasonable 
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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Steely.Mark]

What about this:

//JS010   EXEC PGM=SDSF
//SYSTSPRT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSTERM  DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  DUMMY   
//FILEOUT  DD  DSN=..SEARCH,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE),  
// UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(10,1)),   
// DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=134,BLKSIZE=0)  
//*ISFOUT   DD  SYSOUT=*   
//ISFOUT   DD  DUMMY   
//ISFINDD  *   
PREFIX CICS*   
DA 
F 'CICSPXX1'   
++?
F 'JESMSGLG'   
++S
PRINT FILE FILEOUT 
PRINT  
DA 
F 'CICSPXX2'   
++?   
F 'JESMSGLG'  
++S   
PRINT FILE FILEOUT
PRINT 
DA
F 'CICSPXX3'  
++?   
F 'JESMSGLG'  
++S   
PRINT FILE FILEOUT
PRINT 
DA
F 'CICSPXX4'  
++?   
F 'JESMSGLG'  
++S   
PRINT FILE FILEOUT
PRINT 
DA
F 'CICSPXX5'  
++?   
F 'JESMSGLG'   
++S
PRINT FILE FILEOUT 
PRINT  
DA 
F 'CICSPXX6'   
++?
F 'JESMSGLG'   
++S
PRINT FILE FILEOUT 
PRINT  
PRINT CLOSE
//*  

This prints the JESMSGLG put you could change that to JESJCL. 

Thanks

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A short answer is check out the SSI (Subsystem Interface) manual. Not for the 
feint-hearted.

Charles


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

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If you have SDSF, or similar ISV product, then you should be able to 'extract' 
the JESJCLIN or JESJCL or any other spool file and process it.

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I want to read the JCL for the job as it is running. I want to execute a 
program as the first step that reads the JCL of the actual job that it is being 
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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

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I want to read the JCL for the job as it is running. I want to execute a 
program as the first step that reads the JCL of the actual job that it is being 
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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:00:15 -0500, Chris Cantrell wrote:

>We are on release 2.2. I am wanting to read the JCL in the first step of the 
>job and perform very specific (which may change) verifications to the JCL and 
>abend the job if the 'standards' are not met.
> 
Is SDSF an option?

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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

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A short answer is check out the SSI (Subsystem Interface) manual. Not for the 
feint-hearted.

Charles


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Zowe slack channels for everyone - install questions

[Bruce Armstrong]

I am involved in the Zowe open source project. I have heard people think 
the openmainproject slack channels are limited to certain email address 
domains - that is not the case - please use 
http://slack.openmainframeproject.org/ to join. Zowe install questions can 
be directed to #zowe-onboarding channel. 

Bruce Armstrong 
IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org 
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job and perform very specific (which may change) verifications to the JCL and 
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Re: Strange problem with Single Object Operations (HMC)

[R.S.]

It was checked, but not twice (trust nobody...).
BTW: What FM documents the ports?

Regards
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W dniu 2018-08-14 o 14:07, Dana Mitchell pisze:

Do you have firewall open for all the ports needed?  According to FM:

tcp 9960 - Browser applet communication
tcp 9950-9959 - Proxy support for Single Object Operation

Dana

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:48:58 +0200, R.S.  wrote:


I'm installing new CPC, z14, with HMC 2.14.0
Working on HMC directly I am able to use Single Object Operations (that
means: connect to SE).
However when I connect do HMC remotely the SOO attempt ends with the
following error message:

(from the browser, note it is free translation from polish)
The page cannot be loaded
Firefox cannot establish connection with server 10.20.30.40:9951 (this
is IP address of HMC, which is normal)

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Re: JES2 Spool Data Set Browse (SDSB) sample

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What problem are you trying to solve?

What level of JES2 are you at?

There are now a lot of features using ISFEXEC in REXX.

Lizette


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Re: Downloading java for z/OS

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Try this link directly to the downloads



https://www-01.ibm.com/marketing/iwm/iwm/web/download.do?source=zossdk8_64&pageType=urx&S_PKG=dl



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I got a message that they are checking of I am allowed to download it because 
of export regulations.



I live in Israel.



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https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/



worked for me.



Click on download for java 8  (64 bit) - you will then need an id to sign in.

After signing in, it goes to the download page



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Hi,



I am trying to download the NON-SMP/E version of java for z/OS.



Google found https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/, but the link to 
download the NON/SMP/E version is broken.



Anyone have another link?



Gadi



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I got a message that they are checking of I am allowed to download it because 
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I live in Israel.

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https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/

worked for me.

Click on download for java 8  (64 bit) - you will then need an id to sign in.
After signing in, it goes to the download page

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Hi,

I am trying to download the NON-SMP/E version of java for z/OS.

Google found https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/, but the link to 
download the NON/SMP/E version is broken.

Anyone have another link?

Gadi

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https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/

worked for me.

Click on download for java 8  (64 bit) - you will then need an id to sign in.
After signing in, it goes to the download page

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Hi,

I am trying to download the NON-SMP/E version of java for z/OS.

Google found https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/, but the link to 
download the NON/SMP/E version is broken.

Anyone have another link?

Gadi

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

[David Crayford]

I think it is worthwhile. I  can understand why you are dubious WRT 
previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using 
cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes 
from Google. They have
embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks 
good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But this 
is hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is
free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but 
it appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from 
their 3270 emulation suite (commerical).
Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most of 
us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway.



On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:

Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹

I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another attempt 
to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF and provide the 
tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile - I'm not sure yet. 
Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270 with a multi-second web 
interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF option) does not seem like a 
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Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are 
overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize the 
mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was missing 
parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a anti-climax.
Has anybody
managed to install Zowe successfully?

[1] https://zowe.org

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Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹

I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another attempt 
to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF and provide the 
tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile - I'm not sure yet. 
Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270 with a multi-second web 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes

Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are 
overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize the 
mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was missing 
parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a anti-climax. 
Has anybody
managed to install Zowe successfully?

[1] https://zowe.org

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Zowe install woes

[David Crayford]

Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions are 
overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize 
the mainframe
without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was missing parts, 
most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a anti-climax. 
Has anybody

managed to install Zowe successfully?

[1] https://zowe.org

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Re: REFVTOC query

[Mike Schwab]

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ickug00/ick40560.htm

REFVTOC does say it rebuilds the FMT4 with new volume size.  Has a
dataset been allocated / expanded / deleted on the volume?  SMS
doesn't update until this happens.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:46 AM Peter  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> We have moved some DASD volumes from VMAX to DS8800. Those were the volume
> which had mod-3 originally but after migration still they show mod-3 .
>
> I know these DASD are mod9. I did REFVTOC but still it shows 3k cylinder
>
> Anything needs to be done ? If Iam missing
>
> Peter
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Downloading java for z/OS

[Gadi Ben-Avi]

Hi,

I am trying to download the NON-SMP/E version of java for z/OS.

Google found https://developer.ibm.com/javasdk/support/zos/, but the link to 
download the NON/SMP/E version is broken.

Anyone have another link?

Gadi

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