date:20210514


On 15/05/2021 1:45 pm, David Crayford wrote:


On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did
not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet



This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If 
you download Apache Tomcat and drop the war into the WebApps directory 
it will work.



Better still, download Jetty. You will have to use version 9.4 as new 
versions require versions of Java > 8. It's about time IBM started 
giving z/OS some love on the Java front.


https://www.eclipse.org/jetty/download.php




If you run 'jar tf gitbucket.war | grep yaml` you will see if 
SnakeYAML is in the archive. If not then I doubt if it's a critical 
component but it doesn't hurt to include it on the classpath.




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Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?


On 14/05/2021 11:58 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did
not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet



This message is because you're not running in a servlet container. If 
you download Apache Tomcat and drop the war into the WebApps directory 
it will work.


If you run 'jar tf gitbucket.war | grep yaml` you will see if SnakeYAML 
is in the archive. If not then I doubt if it's a critical component but 
it doesn't hurt to include it on the classpath.


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Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application


On 15/05/2021 1:03 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote:

It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD … same behavior 
(lots of SIOs and CPU)  IBM says its fixing this but its been quite a while.  Its 
Java related.



And how much does ZD cost? We had customer complain that our Apache 
Tomcat server was taking 15 minutes to start on one LPAR and 15 seconds 
on another. Turns out the didn't have a ZIIP enabled

on the first LPAR. Java is not viable on z/OS without zIIP engines.




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On May 14, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Colin Paice  wrote:

Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000 SIO
a second,
when it is doing "nothing"

How canI tell what it is doing?  I expect most of these files are in the
zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is going
on.
I do not have tools like Strobe or APA,and I am familiar with dumps etc

Colin

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Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

This is usually due to Websphere scanning the dropins folder for 
updates. z/OS doesn't have edge triggered kernel hooks like inotify on 
Linux so has to use brute force. It's not just I/O it consumes a lot of CPU.


You can disable it in server.xml


locationMonitoringEnabled="false" updateTrigger="mbean" pollingRate="10s"/>


On 15/05/2021 1:01 am, Colin Paice wrote:

Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000 SIO
a second,
when it is doing "nothing"

How canI tell what it is doing?  I expect most of these files are in the
zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is going
on.
I do not have tools like Strobe or APA,and I am familiar with dumps etc

Colin

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Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-14 Thread Alan Altmark

On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:28:52 -0700, Ed Jaffe  
wrote:
>Reasonable people can disagree about what the word "pricey" means, but
>no one can defend the indefensible.
>
>Every Intel-based Linux, Windows or Mac, at every hardware price-point,
>can synchronize its clock with an external NTP sever in real-time
>without a reboot.

The lineage and history of the clocks and time on microprocessors is very 
different than that of the mainframe and leads inevitably to the OS needing to 
use NTP and have the OS be the Arbiter of Time.  (Do apps call gettimeofday() 
or do they read the timestamp register?  They call gettimeofday().)  

On the mainframe, we allowed (encouraged?) applications (subsystems, user apps, 
middleware) to use the TOD clock.   STORE CLOCK is an unprivileged instruction. 
 And the tradition predates the introduction of leap seconds, so everyone 
calculated the same time using the same algorithm over and over and over and 
over again.  If you have someone doing STCK, but not using CVTLSO, they're 
likely to calculate the wrong time.   At the end of the day (no pun intended), 
the TOD clock needs to be in sync with UTC.   And once that decision is made, 
it becomes an obvious waste of resources to implement an ntp client in the OS.

With ntp, if multiple servers are all synced to the same time source then they 
are, by acclamation, synced with each other.  But that's not good enough since 
there are lots of places with TOD clock or TOD clock-based  values.   They need 
to be on the same time line.

>For the high six-figure price we paid for our z15, it should have come
>with similar functionality built-in, but didn't.
>
>IBM's current positioning in this regard, as Dave Gibney and others
>discovered, is a source of embarrassment for the platform.

Help me with this, Ed.  Did you receive a proposal that didn't include STP?  Or 
at least offer it as an option?  If it wasn't offered, that bothers me.  IMO, 
all proposals should include cryptos (where not prohibited by law), a pair of 
copper OSAs, six or more fiber OSAs (speed and type customer choice), a pair of 
RoCE cards, STP, STP links, and a pair of HMCs (unless you already have them).  
 If it's an IFL box, then add some FCP adapters.  Getting this stuff in the 
initial sale is going to be cheaper than adding it later.

Then if the client wants to reduce the price by redlining items, that's on 
them, but I think IBM or the BP should be bringing a full function proposal.  

Alan Altmark
IBM

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Wow!  And now I know what spandrels and mullions are, since Wiki makes 
links out of words I probably don't know (and they were right).


On 5/14/2021 2:09 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Your windows didn't throw themselves?  



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Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Friday Story: Throwing things out the window reminds me of when I worked
on the 3rd floor of the Edison Building in Long Beach, CA (visible in
one of the scenes in "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World"), and someone ran up
to me telling me I better go move my car.  It was parked outside near an
old apartment building where a woman was throwing heavy things (TV,
furniture, etc.) out the 2nd story window while yelling loudly at
someone.  My car was just below the window and somehow managed to avoid
being hit.

On 5/14/2021 1:11 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:

Got it, thanks.  At first I was thinking zBX too, but that wasn't
available 30 years ago.  Then thought maybe AS/400, which people (not
me) sometimes call Mainframes.

Now I'm trying to remember if I ever threw one of my old x86 boxes out
the window.  Probably out the door, but not a window.

On 5/14/2021 12:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have
taken it as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system
compatible with a mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.

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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 3:32 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?

On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic
definition, those aren't mainframes.


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Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W.
 wrote:


If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com



As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI
building hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and
throw out of a window if I had a reason, I can say that there are
certainly two t-shirt designs on that site that were ill conceived.
No thanks.

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Your windows didn't throw themselves?  



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tom 
Brennan [t...@tombrennansoftware.com]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 4:24 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Friday Story: Throwing things out the window reminds me of when I worked
on the 3rd floor of the Edison Building in Long Beach, CA (visible in
one of the scenes in "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World"), and someone ran up
to me telling me I better go move my car.  It was parked outside near an
old apartment building where a woman was throwing heavy things (TV,
furniture, etc.) out the 2nd story window while yelling loudly at
someone.  My car was just below the window and somehow managed to avoid
being hit.

On 5/14/2021 1:11 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> Got it, thanks.  At first I was thinking zBX too, but that wasn't
> available 30 years ago.  Then thought maybe AS/400, which people (not
> me) sometimes call Mainframes.
>
> Now I'm trying to remember if I ever threw one of my old x86 boxes out
> the window.  Probably out the door, but not a window.
>
> On 5/14/2021 12:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have
>> taken it as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system
>> compatible with a mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.
>>
>> --
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>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
>> behalf of Tom Brennan 
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 3:32 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>>
>> Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?
>>
>> On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>> That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic
>>> definition, those aren't mainframes.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> 
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on
>>> behalf of Gary Eheman [ehe...@funsoft.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:25 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>>>
>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W.
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

 http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com

>>>
>>> As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI
>>> building hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and
>>> throw out of a window if I had a reason, I can say that there are
>>> certainly two t-shirt designs on that site that were ill conceived.
>>> No thanks.
>>>
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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

I've never seen the term "Plug Compatible Mainframe"; it looks like a backronym 
by someone who had never seen the beast. PCM is Plug Compatible Manufacturer, 
which is why the term was applied to, e.g., terminals.


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Just seemed easier to write at that moment  than Plug Compatible Mainframe, or 
PCM, which opens up another debate on for what PCM is an acronym.

"Yo mainframe so fat it cannot be thrown out a window and must be lifted  in 
and out with a crane costing thousands more in delivery and installation fees."

Been there, done that in my mainframe career. Both in and out the building 
windows that had to be removed to accommodate the heavy mainframe equipment.

On Fri, 14 May 2021 19:57:37 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have taken it 
>as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system compatible with a 
>mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.
>
>--
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>
>
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>Tom Brennan 
>Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 3:32 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>
>Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?
>
>On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, 
>> those aren't mainframes.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
>> Gary Eheman [ehe...@funsoft.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:25 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>>
>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>>>
>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com
>>
>> As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building 
>> hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a 
>> window if I had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt 
>> designs on that site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.
>>
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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman

Just seemed easier to write at that moment  than Plug Compatible Mainframe, or 
PCM, which opens up another debate on for what PCM is an acronym.

"Yo mainframe so fat it cannot be thrown out a window and must be lifted  in 
and out with a crane costing thousands more in delivery and installation fees."

Been there, done that in my mainframe career. Both in and out the building 
windows that had to be removed to accommodate the heavy mainframe equipment.

On Fri, 14 May 2021 19:57:37 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have taken it 
>as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system compatible with a 
>mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.
>
>--
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>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
>
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
>Tom Brennan 
>Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 3:32 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>
>Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?
>
>On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, 
>> those aren't mainframes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
>> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>>
>> 
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of 
>> Gary Eheman [ehe...@funsoft.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:25 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store
>>
>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>>>
>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com
>>
>> As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building 
>> hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a 
>> window if I had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt 
>> designs on that site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.
>>
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Friday Story: Throwing things out the window reminds me of when I worked 
on the 3rd floor of the Edison Building in Long Beach, CA (visible in 
one of the scenes in "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World"), and someone ran up 
to me telling me I better go move my car.  It was parked outside near an 
old apartment building where a woman was throwing heavy things (TV, 
furniture, etc.) out the 2nd story window while yelling loudly at 
someone.  My car was just below the window and somehow managed to avoid 
being hit.


On 5/14/2021 1:11 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Got it, thanks.  At first I was thinking zBX too, but that wasn't 
available 30 years ago.  Then thought maybe AS/400, which people (not 
me) sometimes call Mainframes.


Now I'm trying to remember if I ever threw one of my old x86 boxes out 
the window.  Probably out the door, but not a window.


On 5/14/2021 12:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have 
taken it as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system 
compatible with a mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.


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Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?

On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic 
definition, those aren't mainframes.



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If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com 



As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI 
building hybrid mainframes for customers that I could both lift and 
throw out of a window if I had a reason, I can say that there are 
certainly two t-shirt designs on that site that were ill conceived.  
No thanks.


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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Got it, thanks.  At first I was thinking zBX too, but that wasn't 
available 30 years ago.  Then thought maybe AS/400, which people (not 
me) sometimes call Mainframes.


Now I'm trying to remember if I ever threw one of my old x86 boxes out 
the window.  Probably out the door, but not a window.


On 5/14/2021 12:57 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have taken it 
as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system compatible with a 
mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.

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Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?

On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those 
aren't mainframes.


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On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:


If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com


As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

Had I seen the term hybrid mainframe out of context then I would have taken it 
as ZBX, but I assume that Greg meant a small system compatible with a 
mainframe, e.g., P/390, PDT.

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Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?

On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, 
> those aren't mainframes.
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> On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
>  wrote:
>
>> If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>>
>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com
>
> As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
> mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if 
> I had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on 
> that site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.
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Maybe just for me, but what's a Hybrid Mainframe?

On 5/14/2021 9:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those 
aren't mainframes.


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On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
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If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com


As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

And dimensions!  Late last year I was at a site that brought a new z15 
into their datacenter.  Remotely, we all "thought" the doorway was tall 
enough but later I was told someone measured the doorway without taking 
into consideration the 1/2" metal top door jamb.  Luckily that part 
could be removed with a few screws and the mainframe made it through.  I 
wasn't there at the time, but later they showed me scratch marks in the 
paint at the top of the doorway, made even with the jamb removed.  Push!!


On 5/14/2021 10:47 AM, Gary Eheman wrote:

I get it.  Like, "Yo mainframe so fat it requires floor loading calculations  be 
performed before it can enter the room."  ;-)

On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:54:20 -0700, Charles Mills  wrote:


It's a joke.

Charles


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On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:


If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

www.mainframestore.com


As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
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Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Chris Hoelscher

Tell them what?

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Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Colin Paice

Matt,

One problem with the Slow start up is the first time it has to
compile/cache things - the second time it is faster.  Ive blogged on saving
the cached stuff across restarts.
I hear one of the problems is to do with the checking access to files, not
Java as such.
Z/OSMF had been up and I had been using ISPF through it ... I then jumped
to TSO and saw the high IO rate in SDSF.
Is there a C_run_ time/LE trace/Other which would give me some hints?
Colin

On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 18:03, Matt Hogstrom  wrote:

> It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD … same
> behavior (lots of SIOs and CPU)  IBM says its fixing this but its been
> quite a while.  Its Java related.
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> >
> > Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000
> SIO
> > a second,
> > when it is doing "nothing"
> >
> > How canI tell what it is doing?  I expect most of these files are in the
> > zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is
> going
> > on.
> > I do not have tools like Strobe or APA,and I am familiar with dumps etc
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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman

I get it.  Like, "Yo mainframe so fat it requires floor loading calculations  
be performed before it can enter the room."  ;-)

On Fri, 14 May 2021 07:54:20 -0700, Charles Mills  wrote:

>It's a joke.
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>On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
> wrote:
>
>>If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>>
>>www.mainframestore.com
>
>As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
>mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
>had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
>site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.
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Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

It's easy  to tell "Where am I executing?". Beyond that you have to run chains 
while holding a lock.


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Hi

Was just wondering is there any way to know in a  address space what TCB is 
currently executing
Would it be ASXBFTCB ?

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Carmen Vitullo

Back in my Boeing days mainframe systems were defined as any Large scale 
system processor, Cray, PDP/Vax CDC SCS systems, some of these boxes 
were much smaller that today's new z15 processors, some much larger :)


Carmen

On 5/14/2021 11:58 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those 
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If you haven't seen this, then check it out.

http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com

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Re: How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Matt Hogstrom

It takes z/OSMF about an hour to fully initialize on my ZD … same behavior 
(lots of SIOs and CPU)  IBM says its fixing this but its been quite a while.  
Its Java related.

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> On May 14, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Colin Paice  wrote:
> 
> Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000 SIO
> a second,
> when it is doing "nothing"
> 
> How canI tell what it is doing?  I expect most of these files are in the
> zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is going
> on.
> I do not have tools like Strobe or APA,and I am familiar with dumps etc
> 
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How can I tell the zFS files being used by my application

2021-05-14 Thread Colin Paice

Im using z/OSMF on my little zPDT system, and it is doing about 50,000 SIO
a second,
when it is doing "nothing"

How canI tell what it is doing?  I expect most of these files are in the
zFS file system, but I dont know the best way of finding out what is going
on.
I do not have tools like Strobe or APA,and I am familiar with dumps etc

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

That depends on what you mean by "mainframe". By the classic definition, those 
aren't mainframes.


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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:

>If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>
>http://secure-web.cisco.com/127-m0Rgk2KvVVd1YOv2m0zSRN9stAg9WKS6Q9-z8f757Gxr6TV-q8N2GCpy_BZICAVMAZTFiNxjQ2PP4fajkbfT56jLCbF4lhR53Zb-CazxD2YmghpWZIxRmzoAg_KOEiWoaU9hx1mHede5G0mQNJkuFzvgW7t0b_848NkDGZC4cPuHCMmJBxSvJNIjTCOc1AfR8HiLD5H991l10g3YmUaHO4J2ZA82aMlDCMfc2Nfuk2iSgdWjNFhVG-Xi_YlQpShaQElVGJyMKqjwFqrYi1xSo7JPkFOXbEiWHzfHDmVhmBvZs-s_EaNBPxHVkaP8DoUBKX4_TbI16boanoi2oDApV1Js3yL3ElbighVAIBFgx-tkAsvFFjU3ApiS1rdUI-KNPOBrChRHYVOaqLp6GhZtiw01Vjg_m_jjaJ3pxI9UmEhJrH0-45V4yQcyvLMnS/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mainframestore.com

As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.

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Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

There may be multiple tasks running in the same address space, so there's no 
way to select one TCB as current.


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Charles Mills 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

You address space ("this address space") or any address space? For the
latter I don't know -- of course, nothing might be executing or an SRB might
be executing or ... I don't know all the possibilities.

I believe for "my TCB" the traditional source is PSATOLD.

Charles


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Hi

Was just wondering is there any way to know in a  address space what TCB is
currently executing
Would it be ASXBFTCB ?

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Re: GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

Nice - when I have it running, I get those missing class messages but it does 
start and I'm able to sign in as root.

BUT when I try to create a group, repository, click on system admin, or account 
settings, I am once again prompted to sign in.

Any advice?

This is the startup script that I'm using:

#!/bin/sh
export CLASSPATH=/u/me/gitbucket/:$CLASSPATH
java -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -Xmx1024m  -jar gitbucket.war --save_sessions


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Works for me. You shouldn't need to download libraries as it's packaged into a 
fat Jar.

On 14/05/2021 9:57 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
> Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS?
>
>   
>
> I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find:
>
>   
>
> [main] WARN  l.servicelocator.ServiceLocator - Cannot use class 
> liquibase.parser.core.json.JsonChangeLogParser as a Liquibase service 
> because org.yaml.snakeyaml.constructor.BaseConstructor is not in the 
> classpath
>
>   
>
> I resolve these messages by downloading the jar file from 
> http://www.java2s.com/Code/Jar/s/Downloadsnakeyaml19jar.htm
>
>   
>
> The other error
>
>   
>
> INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did 
> not find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet
>
>   
>
> I've not found the right jar file to download to resolve this issue.
>
>   
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Lionel B. Dyck <><
>
> Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
>
> Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
>
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>
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Works for me. You shouldn't need to download libraries as it's packaged 
into a fat Jar.


On 14/05/2021 9:57 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS?

  


I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find:

  


[main] WARN  l.servicelocator.ServiceLocator - Cannot use class
liquibase.parser.core.json.JsonChangeLogParser as a Liquibase service
because org.yaml.snakeyaml.constructor.BaseConstructor is not in the
classpath

  


I resolve these messages by downloading the jar file from
http://www.java2s.com/Code/Jar/s/Downloadsnakeyaml19jar.htm

  


The other error

  


INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did not
find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet

  


I've not found the right jar file to download to resolve this issue.

  


Any suggestions?

  

  


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Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

  


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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Charles Mills

It's a joke.

Charles

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Subject: Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:

>If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>
>www.mainframestore.com

As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.

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Re: Mainframe t-shirt store

2021-05-14 Thread Gary Eheman

On Thu, 13 May 2021 17:58:55 +, PINION, RICHARD W. 
 wrote:

>If you haven't seen this, then check it out.
>
>www.mainframestore.com

As a guy who has spent more than 30 years at both IBM and FSI building hybrid 
mainframes for customers that I could both lift and throw out of a window if I 
had a reason, I can say that there are certainly two t-shirt designs on that 
site that were ill conceived.  No thanks.

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WebSeal & CIS benchmarks for auditing

2021-05-14 Thread Linda Hagedorn

Hi.  We will be auditing WebSeal in-house and are looking for the appropriate 
CIS benchmarks.  

Does anyone know the CIS benchmarks for WebSeal? 

Our searches have been unproductive.  The CIS site is here:  
https://www.cisecurity.org/cis-benchmarks/   

We searched for:
.  Webseal
.  Tivoli Access Manager 
.  ISAM Reverse Proxy

If I should be on a different forum, a referral or any information is 
appreciated.  

Thanks, Linda 

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GitBucket on z/OS ?

2021-05-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck

Has anyone any experience in getting GitBucket to run on z/OS USS?

 

I've downloaded the war file and it will start but then couldn't find:

 

[main] WARN  l.servicelocator.ServiceLocator - Cannot use class
liquibase.parser.core.json.JsonChangeLogParser as a Liquibase service
because org.yaml.snakeyaml.constructor.BaseConstructor is not in the
classpath

 

I resolve these messages by downloading the jar file from
http://www.java2s.com/Code/Jar/s/Downloadsnakeyaml19jar.htm  

 

The other error 

 

INFO:oejw.StandardDescriptorProcessor:main: NO JSP Support for /, did not
find org.eclipse.jetty.jsp.JettyJspServlet

 

I've not found the right jar file to download to resolve this issue.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

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Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com

Github: https://github.com/lbdyck

 

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are, reputation merely what others think you are."   - - - John Wooden

 


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Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Joseph Reichman

Thanks 

Seems like there wouldn’t be any easy way to find out 



> On May 14, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Charles Mills  wrote:
> 
> You address space ("this address space") or any address space? For the
> latter I don't know -- of course, nothing might be executing or an SRB might
> be executing or ... I don't know all the possibilities.
> 
> I believe for "my TCB" the traditional source is PSATOLD.
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Currently executing TCB in a address space
> 
> Hi
> 
> Was just wondering is there any way to know in a  address space what TCB is
> currently executing 
> Would it be ASXBFTCB ? 
> 
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Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Charles Mills

You address space ("this address space") or any address space? For the
latter I don't know -- of course, nothing might be executing or an SRB might
be executing or ... I don't know all the possibilities.

I believe for "my TCB" the traditional source is PSATOLD.

Charles


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Hi

Was just wondering is there any way to know in a  address space what TCB is
currently executing 
Would it be ASXBFTCB ? 

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Re: Currently executing TCB in a address space

2021-05-14 Thread Joseph Reichman

So it would come down to starting  at ASXBFTCB and looking at each TCB dispatch 
ability 

Thanks 




> On May 14, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Tom Harper  wrote:
> 
> There can be many. There really is no way to know precisely at a given 
> instance because you could scan the TCBs in an address space and check their 
> dispatch flags, but that could change from under you at any instant. 
> 
> Tom Harper
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 14, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Joseph Reichman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Was just wondering is there any way to know in a  address space what TCB is 
>> currently executing 
>> Would it be ASXBFTCB ? 
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There can be many. There really is no way to know precisely at a given instance 
because you could scan the TCBs in an address space and check their dispatch 
flags, but that could change from under you at any instant. 

Tom Harper

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> On May 14, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Joseph Reichman  wrote:
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Hi

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currently executing 
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Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-14 Thread Ed Jaffe


On 5/13/2021 10:19 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:


Ed, I won't argue the point of "Why isn't in a standard feature?" (I wish it was, too),  
but I will take issue with "pricey".  I was surprised at how inexpensive it actually is, 
particularly when I look at what it does.


Reasonable people can disagree about what the word "pricey" means, but 
no one can defend the indefensible.


Every Intel-based Linux, Windows or Mac, at every hardware price-point, 
can synchronize its clock with an external NTP sever in real-time 
without a reboot.


For the high six-figure price we paid for our z15, it should have come 
with similar functionality built-in, but didn't.


IBM's current positioning in this regard, as Dave Gibney and others 
discovered, is a source of embarrassment for the platform.


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Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

I couldn't get any hits earlier than 1981.

Are there any legal issues in citing documents from there on wiki?

Would it be possible to add options for from-to date ranges and for oldest 
first sort order? Thanks.


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IBM currently provides access to all IBM announcement letters starting
from January 1, 1976, from this Web site:

https://ibm.com/common/ssi

As a random example, at that site you can find IBM U.S. Announcement
#285-045 dated February 12, 1985, and entitled "VM/XA Migration Aid
Release 2 Enhancements." You can search by product name, program number,
or just about any keyword. There's also a link to a beta version of the
site with a new user interface. The new UI seems to be a little easier to
use for these purposes since it's easier to restrict a search to a
particular date range.

I'm not sure why January 1, 1976, is the "magic" date for these purposes,
but perhaps someone else on this list knows.

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