Re: realtime monitoring of various storage subpools

2022-08-27 Thread kekronbekron
It may be worth writing a zOS Hot Topics (https://zos-hot-topics.com) article 
about all the new things added to SDSF.
So that the information is easy to share, and for more people to enjoy the new 
stuff.

- KB

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On Sunday, August 28th, 2022 at 8:02 AM, David Crayford  
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> > On 26 Aug 2022, at 1:31 pm, Hank Oerlemans 
> > 03c4d8bf55f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
> > 
> > I'm very fond of the new stuff in SDSF with z/OS 2.5 .
> 
> 
> Me too. Rob and his team are adding outstanding features with every new 
> release. The x-mem browsing into foreign address spaces was particularly 
> popular in our team.
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Re: realtime monitoring of various storage subpools

2022-08-27 Thread David Crayford
> On 26 Aug 2022, at 1:31 pm, Hank Oerlemans 
> <03c4d8bf55f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> I'm very fond of the new stuff in SDSF with z/OS 2.5 .

Me too. Rob and his team are adding outstanding features with every new 
release. The x-mem browsing into foreign address spaces was particularly 
popular in our team. 

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Re: IBM Mainframe - what is it future in the era of digital transformation

2022-08-27 Thread Ramsey Hallman
Larry, I'll let others provide summaries and links, however, I'd say
mainframes are definitely here to stay. IBM and its operating systems may
have been around for many years, but IBM has done an excellent job of
modernizing both hardware and software. When you invoke some software,
whether by mouse click, enter key, or some other means, somewhere some
software must run on some hardware. When milliseconds count, you cannot
beat IBM z/OS technology. And, no, I am not an IBMer.

However, the last production site I worked at (now a software developer for
MVS/Quickref), milliseconds counted. Our management objective was response
times of 0.5 seconds or less. We ran 23M transactions per day, using z/OS,
CICS, Db2, MQ and did so in an average of 0.39 seconds per transaction.
Response time on a web frontend that initiated that transaction might be
substantially greater, but it was not the application doing the work that
was slow. I am unaware of any other platform capable of giving that type of
response. These were not simple applications. Most, if not all, banking,
insurance, and other financial applications run on IBM z/OS. I, personally,
do not believe it is going anywhere anytime soon. It is a shame that most
educational institutions have abandoned teaching mainframe languages and
technologies.

Ramsey

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 3:38 PM Larry Zhang <
03b304d39e8e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>  With the cloud era started already, I am confused by the mainframe road
> map and how to fit it into the cloud modernization: the world still uses it
> extensively, but no new young generation would like to learn it as a
> technology as it is old. So what is the mainframe future: it will be dying
> or replaced by another infrastructure or it will be modernized to fit the
> cloud platform?
> Any overview or summary or links will be helpful
> Thanks.
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IBM Mainframe - what is it future in the era of digital transformation

2022-08-27 Thread Larry Zhang
 With the cloud era started already, I am confused by the mainframe road map 
and how to fit it into the cloud modernization: the world still uses it 
extensively, but no new young generation would like to learn it as a technology 
as it is old. So what is the mainframe future: it will be dying or replaced by 
another infrastructure or it will be modernized to fit the cloud platform?
Any overview or summary or links will be helpful
Thanks.

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Re: Micro Focus bought by Open Text.

2022-08-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Argh, forgot to fix subject, resending.

Tony Harminc wrote, re Hummingbird:
>Which, iirc, was the TN3270 program developed at McGill U. by Pierre
>Goyette.

And QWS3270 came from Queens', no? Interesting that two of the (many, Many, 
MANY!) 3270 emulators came from Canadian universities...

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Re: Online application delay

2022-08-27 Thread Peter
Steve

It's a non CICS application

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 9:18 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:

> You are going to hate this but you need to look at your CICS SMF records
> and you may have to turn on the 99 records for a very very short time
> probably 3 minutes or less
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> > On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:00, Peter  wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Good morning to all
> >
> > I am just trying to understand a strange online application(non-CICS)
> delay
> > which is happening only for a specific location but not on all region.
> >
> >
> > During the delay, I don't see any delay from the zOS perspective whereas
> > the clocking symbol or a few min of freeze is happening only within the
> > online application.
> >
> > From the SMF perspective, which record can tell me the reason for delay ?
> > As I don't get any clue in RMF or SYSLOGS
> >
> > Any pointers are much appreciated
> >
> > We are at z/OS 2.4 and are just monoplex environment.
> >
> > Peter
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Re: Online application delay

2022-08-27 Thread Steve Beaver
You are going to hate this but you need to look at your CICS SMF records and 
you may have to turn on the 99 records for a very very short time probably 3 
minutes or less

Sent from my iPhone

No one said I could type with one thumb 

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:00, Peter  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Good morning to all
> 
> I am just trying to understand a strange online application(non-CICS) delay
> which is happening only for a specific location but not on all region.
> 
> 
> During the delay, I don't see any delay from the zOS perspective whereas
> the clocking symbol or a few min of freeze is happening only within the
> online application.
> 
> From the SMF perspective, which record can tell me the reason for delay ?
> As I don't get any clue in RMF or SYSLOGS
> 
> Any pointers are much appreciated
> 
> We are at z/OS 2.4 and are just monoplex environment.
> 
> Peter
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Re: Online application delay

2022-08-27 Thread Colin Paice
Peter,

Tricky.   Is it running in its own address space, or is there other work
going on in the address space at the same time.

If running in its own address space - TSO RMFWDM will give you near real
time reasons for delays, CPU, which volids

If other work in the same address space - do you get any stats out? If the
address space is lightly loaded with little work - then the transaction
could be delayed 10's of milliseconds and you would not notice.
If another transaction is running which uses lots of CPU, or lots of IO, or
does a database query (involving a lock).  This would cause your
transaction to be delayed.
For example 1000 IOs at 1ms per IO is 1 second of wait.

TSO RMFWDM is a good start to see what the address space is belong delayed
for.

Colin

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 18:01, Peter  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Good morning to all
>
> I am just trying to understand a strange online application(non-CICS) delay
> which is happening only for a specific location but not on all region.
>
>
> During the delay, I don't see any delay from the zOS perspective whereas
> the clocking symbol or a few min of freeze is happening only within the
> online application.
>
> From the SMF perspective, which record can tell me the reason for delay ?
> As I don't get any clue in RMF or SYSLOGS
>
> Any pointers are much appreciated
>
> We are at z/OS 2.4 and are just monoplex environment.
>
> Peter
>
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Online application delay

2022-08-27 Thread Peter
Hello

Good morning to all

I am just trying to understand a strange online application(non-CICS) delay
which is happening only for a specific location but not on all region.


During the delay, I don't see any delay from the zOS perspective whereas
the clocking symbol or a few min of freeze is happening only within the
online application.

>From the SMF perspective, which record can tell me the reason for delay ?
As I don't get any clue in RMF or SYSLOGS

Any pointers are much appreciated

We are at z/OS 2.4 and are just monoplex environment.

Peter

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 25 Aug 2022 to 26 Aug 2022 (#2022-235)

2022-08-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Tony Harminc wrote, re Hummingbird:
>Which, iirc, was the TN3270 program developed at McGill U. by Pierre
>Goyette.

And QWS3270 came from Queens', no? Interesting that two of the (many, Many, 
MANY!) 3270 emulators came from Canadian universities...

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