Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus
HPE ? That’s odd I thought HPE merged with CSC and became DXC ?? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus What trouble is MicroFocus in? BTW, you know they did not buy HP? HP is alive and NYSE-listed. They bought HPE which was by then a totally different company. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE splits from Microfocus I agree. However, I think the need to sell SUSE has everything to do with the trouble Microfocus is in since the HP acquisition. Rob Schramm On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:18 PM Charles Mills wrote: > A good deal for MicroFocus. They bought the whole dang thing of > Attachmate for $1.2B. They just sold one part of that for $2.5B. > > Wish I was that smart. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Rob Schramm > Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: SUSE splits from Microfocus > > https://itsfoss.com/suse-eqt-acquisition/ > > Can anyone spell "we need cash"? > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SYS3 datasets
We use them here -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of DiBianca, Robert Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYS3 datasets I see 3 SYS3.** datasets at my shop, and the past 5 mainframe shops that I've seen have never used SYS3 (that goes back to the 1980's). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYS3 datasets W dniu 2017-09-25 o 04:18, Tony Thigpen pisze: > We have a staff z/OS systems programmer who claims that: > "Almost all shops use the SYS3. HLQ to indicate third party software." > > So new software installs *have* to follow that "rule". (Past installs > did not follow such a rule.) > > I am thinking that this "rule" is really just *his* rule. > > Opinions? > > How many other sites follow such a rule? > I've seen many shops in Poland and abroad and *never* seen such rule. I see no rationale behind, maybe except "mama said so". My €0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.plsąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information in this transmission may contain proprietary and non-public information of BB or its affiliates and may be subject to protection under the law. The message is intended for the sole use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please delete the material from your system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
cross posted VM and VSE - EMC DLM issue ?
I have been trying to figure out where this intervention is coming from It does not seem to impact the job running Any ideas ? Thanks, Augie VM q 1a40 A tape 1A40 intervention required. TAPE 1A40 ATTACHED TO MXVSEAUD 0A71 R/W Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:46:55 q 1940 A tape 1940 intervention required. TAPE 1940 ATTACHED TO MXVSEAUD 0971 R/W Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:47:14 VSE F5 0005 * JOB PASO01 F5 0005 DLM001I MOUNTED SCRTCH ON VTAPE => 0A71 F5 0005 CADT008A MOUNT SCRATCH CINTA SYS005 DSN=TSTD01.COBRANZA OWNER=V MODE=08ME JOB=ALLVSAM F5 0005 CADT007I ** LABEL CINTA SYS005=A71 V00521 1 *TSTD01.COBRANZA* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: OLD Manual - any one aware of something more current VSE to z/os
Found this so far, it's a bit newer http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg242043.pdf Believe it or not I have kept this manual published in 1989 because some things never change especially concept wise. I was wondering if anyone is aware of something more up to date, (was going to search the IBM red books) or any suggestions where else to look. The Manual was from the Washington Systems Center, Technical Bulletin, GG66-3113-00, Enterprise and Application Enabling System Support VSE to MVS Differences and Migration Guide Has anyone recently performed a VSE to Z/os Migration ? which included DL/1 Thanks, Augie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
OLD Manual - any one aware of something more current VSE to z/os
Believe it or not I have kept this manual published in 1989 because some things never change especially concept wise. I was wondering if anyone is aware of something more up to date, (was going to search the IBM red books) or any suggestions where else to look. The Manual was from the Washington Systems Center, Technical Bulletin, GG66-3113-00, Enterprise and Application Enabling System Support VSE to MVS Differences and Migration Guide Has anyone recently performed a VSE to Z/os Migration ? which included DL/1 Thanks, Augie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: z/VSE general installation question.
VSE Discussion List-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/VSE general installation question. On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Steve wrote: > > [ http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf ]( > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247436.pdf ) > Looks interesting. Thanks. > > Steve Beaver > st...@stevebeaver.com > -- Heisenberg may have been here. Unicode: http://xkcd.com/1726/ Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Delta Outage
Some more interesting news on Delta http://www.cringely.com/ here is some of the article Delta Airlines was an IBM outsourcing customer, they may still be today, I don't know. They haven't returned my call. Loss of power in a data center usually triggers a disaster recovery plan. When that happens you have two basic choices: switch to your backup systems somewhere else or fix the outage and recover your primary systems. The problem with going to backup systems is those backups usually do not have capacity for 100 percent of the workload so only the most critical functions are moved. Then once everything is fixed you have to move your workload back to your production systems. That is often high risk, a major pain, and takes a lot of effort. So in a traditional disaster recovery setup, the preference will always be to recover the primary services. Anything less than a 100 percent service backup isn't disaster recovery, it is disaster coping. Now if the IT support team is thousands of miles away, offshore, the process for restarting hundreds - perhaps thousands - of systems can be slow and painful. If you lose the data link between your support team and the data center due to that same power outage your support team can do nothing until the data link is fixed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: IODF Dynamic Changes
I think you had a step out of sequence Are you getting that message during activate? You may want to look at this if you a sure they in fact do match activate iodf=a2,soft=novalidate -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 11:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IODF Dynamic Changes Hello, We have z/OS and z/VM both in our Mainframe in diff LPAR. We recently added few more CHPID and devices and provided access to z/VM LPAR by coping the current IODF into new IODF and created production IODF from this new IODF. After this, 1) I used UPDATE option while built IOCDS and wrote in A2 profile. 2) Now, I would wanted to switch this new IODF dynamically using this IOCDS option but didnot allowed me saying Error Action for A2.ZEC12 failed. The IOCDS token does not match the HSA token. 3) Then I realized, I should use option 6 to activate or verify configuration but in the option 6 , which one we should be using it not sure. Can anyone help me to activate this new changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: some IOCDS help
Looks like this was a solution activate iodf=a2,soft=novalidate -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: some IOCDS help Not sure if we did something out of order Any help on getting this in sync would be appreciated We did a activate for A2 on one of the z/os LPARS Thanks, Augie IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 766 ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED NOTE = A821,TOKEN OF PROCESSOR AVONEC12 IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF SYS1.IODFA0 DOES NOT MATCH HSA TOKEN, H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC. COMPID=SC1XL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
some IOCDS help
Not sure if we did something out of order Any help on getting this in sync would be appreciated We did a activate for A2 on one of the z/os LPARS Thanks, Augie IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 766 ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED NOTE = A821,TOKEN OF PROCESSOR AVONEC12 IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF SYS1.IODFA0 DOES NOT MATCH HSA TOKEN, H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC. COMPID=SC1XL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: IBM
And this is what is known, can imagine what goes on unknown Would not be too sure about eyes only either -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bigendian Smalls Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Positively terrifying. I know large companies often get to review unthinkable source code, because of the risks this article states. But a foreign government, and China no less - seems risky. I’m sure it is done ‘eyes only’ and they don’t actually get to keep a copy. But still, stealing IP would be the one bad outcome - finding ugly undisclosed vulnerabilities quite another. > On Oct 16, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Lance D. Jackson >wrote: > > This is disturbing: > http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-allows-chinese-government-to-review-so > urce-code-1444989039 > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: VMware is looking to buy-out its parent company - EMC
That’s interesting, a few days ago there was a posting that it was going in the opposite direction, that EMC was going to buyout VMWARE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 2:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VMware is looking to buy-out it parent company - EMC porsche takeover volkswagen try is the most famous case of downstream takeover try, I think... ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security Risk Assessments Professional On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On 2015-08-05 19:53, Russell Witt wrote: This is actually weird. Even though EMC owns an 80% stake in VMware, VMware is looking to buy-out EMC. Never heard of a down-stream merger. http://fortune.com/2015/08/05/report-emc-considering-buyout-vmware/?xi d=yahoo_fortune Not too weird. In one case of which I know, a whale with an onerous government charter arranged to be swallowed by a minnow with a much more favorable charter. Of course the acquiring company got the rights to the whale's trademarks and used them. By arrangement, the officers of the vanishing company became officers of the merged company. Etc. And the general public hardly knew. Gulp, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe
VSE Discussion List vs...@lists.lehigh.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe No love for VSE? VSE http://www.lehigh.edu/~wsm0/vse-l/ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 13:00:03 -0700 From: stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU So the following lists is what I have to date If you use this URL, you can find any list http://www.lsoft.com/lists/list_q.html CICS http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/cics-l.html DB2 http://www.idug.org/ General MVS IBM-Main https://listserv.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html IBM Assembler https://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=ASSEMBLER-LISTA=1 IMS http://imslistserv.bmc.com/SCRIPTS/WA-BMC.EXE?SUBED1=IMS-LA=1 ISPF https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l JES2 http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jes2-l JES3 http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/jes3-l.html Linux http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-VM Misc Documentshttp://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html MQhttps://listserv.meduniwien.ac.at/archives/mqser-l.html MVS OEhttp://vm.marist.edu/archives/mvs-oe.html MVS-UTIL http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?MVS-UTIL Netview http://vm.marist.edu/archives/netv-l.html Other Lists at Marist College http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?XH=VM.MARIST.EDU Other Lists at Univ of Alabamahttps://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?INDEX Other Lists at University of Arkansas http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?XH=LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Other Lists at University of Georgia http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/ RACF http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html SAS http://vm.marist.edu/archives/sas-l.html TCPIP Or this url and go to the bottom of the webpage: http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?IBMTCP-L TSO REXX http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?TSO-REXX VM Rexx http://vm.marist.edu/archives/vm-rexx.html VM Util http://vm.marist.edu/archives/vm-util.html z/VM http://listserv.uark.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=IBMVM zOS Skill http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?ZOS-SKIL Lizette -Original Message- From: David Evans dev...@trustmark.com Sent: Aug 3, 2015 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe Thanks! David Evans From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/03/2015 02:42 PM Subject:Re: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU I'm sure some (or more) of it is obsolete, but on the left hand side of the CBT tape home page there is a link to Mail and Newsgroups: http://www.cbttape.org/ http://www.cbttape.org/internet.phtml Best Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://search390.techtarget.com/ateExperts/ On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:20:08 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Absolutely. I will provide some helpful hints in a little while. I have some system issues to deal with right now. Lizette -Original Message- From: David Evans dev...@trustmark.com Sent: Aug 3, 2015 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe For those of us not going to SHARE, can we have a list of Mainframe specific Lists? David Evans From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/28/2015 11:01 AM Subject:Where are Internet Lists for Mainframe Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU For those of you going to share in Orlando, I would like to let you know that at Share Tom Conley will be giving a share presentation on Thursday 3:15p called Effective Use of the Internet for Mainframe Problem Solving This session will show better ways of posting and getting responses from various Lists. As well as providing a list of Mainframe specific Lists. Hope you can go. (This was my presentation but I am unable to go to Share this time) Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
help w/ a virt printer
Trying to get back a virt printer w/o a IPL When they start the printer on VSE is seems to go looking for a real device Tried a few different things but to no avail Any help appreciated Thanks, Augie VM directory entry: SPOOL 00F 4245 Z * cp q v 00f AR 0015 PRT 000F CL A NOCONT NOHOLD COPY 001READY FORM STANDARD AR 0015 000F TO MXVSE1 PRT DIST AVON231 FLASHC 000 DEST OFF AR 0015 000F FLASH CHAR MDFY 0 FCB LPP OFF AR 0015 000F 4245 NOEOF CLOSEDNOKEEP NOMSG NONAME AR 0015 000F SUBCHANNEL = 010F AR 0015 1I40I READY F1 0001 1R48I F3,FEE,, VTAMSTRT,08532,Q 17 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=37542 F1 0001 1R48I F8,FEE,, CICSPROD,08533,Z 2595 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36487 F1 0001 1R48I F9,FEE,, TCPIP00 ,07677,Q 695 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36436 F1 0001 1R48I F2,FEE,, CICSICCF,41746,A 2152 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36398 F1 0001 1R48I F7,FEE,, JCLSCHE2,08546,Z4 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36141 F1 0001 1R48I F4,FEE,, PWEBDI37,10698,B18675 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=29477 F1 0001 1R48I RDR,02C,Z, F1 0001 1R48I PUN,01D,Z,VM,, INACTIVE, F1 0001 1R48I RDR,00C,A, s prt,00f,z,,vm AR 0015 1C39I COMMAND PASSED TO VSE/POWER F1 0014 0P08AINTERV REQ SYS004=00F F1 0001 1Q61A UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR ON LST,00F - REPLY: PGO 00F, CANCEL|IGNORE|RESTART|RESTART,N F1 0001 1Q33I STOPPED LST,00F -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: help w/ a virt printer
Should be seeing this F1 0001 1R48I RDR,00C,A, F1 0001 1R48I RDR,02C,Z, F1 0001 1R48I PUN,01D,Z,VM,, INACTIVE, F1 0001 1R48I LST,00F,Z,1,VM,, INACTIVE, From: VSE-L [mailto:vse-l-bounces+august.carideo=avon@lists.lehigh.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 12:55 PM To: VSE Discussion List; IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: help w/ a virt printer Trying to get back a virt printer w/o a IPL When they start the printer on VSE is seems to go looking for a real device Tried a few different things but to no avail Any help appreciated Thanks, Augie VM directory entry: SPOOL 00F 4245 Z * cp q v 00f AR 0015 PRT 000F CL A NOCONT NOHOLD COPY 001READY FORM STANDARD AR 0015 000F TO MXVSE1 PRT DIST AVON231 FLASHC 000 DEST OFF AR 0015 000F FLASH CHAR MDFY 0 FCB LPP OFF AR 0015 000F 4245 NOEOF CLOSEDNOKEEP NOMSG NONAME AR 0015 000F SUBCHANNEL = 010F AR 0015 1I40I READY F1 0001 1R48I F3,FEE,, VTAMSTRT,08532,Q 17 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=37542 F1 0001 1R48I F8,FEE,, CICSPROD,08533,Z 2595 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36487 F1 0001 1R48I F9,FEE,, TCPIP00 ,07677,Q 695 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36436 F1 0001 1R48I F2,FEE,, CICSICCF,41746,A 2152 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36398 F1 0001 1R48I F7,FEE,, JCLSCHE2,08546,Z4 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=36141 F1 0001 1R48I F4,FEE,, PWEBDI37,10698,B18675 LINES SPOOLED,QNUM=29477 F1 0001 1R48I RDR,02C,Z, F1 0001 1R48I PUN,01D,Z,VM,, INACTIVE, F1 0001 1R48I RDR,00C,A, s prt,00f,z,,vm AR 0015 1C39I COMMAND PASSED TO VSE/POWER F1 0014 0P08AINTERV REQ SYS004=00F F1 0001 1Q61A UNRECOVERABLE I/O ERROR ON LST,00F - REPLY: PGO 00F, CANCEL|IGNORE|RESTART|RESTART,N F1 0001 1Q33I STOPPED LST,00F -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ___ VSE-L mailing list vs...@lists.lehigh.edu https://lists.lehigh.edu/mailman/listinfo/vse-l -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
CICS 4.2 to 5.1
We have a weird problem when executing a MENU transaction we receive garbage back to the screen It was working fine under 4.2, after bringing up 5.1 on our TECH LPAR we ran into this issue We changed STOargeclear to yes on the transaction and seems to work again. Anyone know why it would need to be changed from NO which it is still set at on DEV and PROD LPARS and works there ? Thanks, Augie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: CICS 4.2 to 5.1
I tried to cross post this to, not sure if I have correct address - Thanks again cic...@listserv.uga.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of August Carideo/RYE/US Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: CICS 4.2 to 5.1 We have a weird problem when executing a MENU transaction we receive garbage back to the screen It was working fine under 4.2, after bringing up 5.1 on our TECH LPAR we ran into this issue We changed STOargeclear to yes on the transaction and seems to work again. Anyone know why it would need to be changed from NO which it is still set at on DEV and PROD LPARS and works there ? Thanks, Augie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: Converting vse to z/OS
Sorry didn't mean to give the impression that the manual was not helpful, only wanted to be aware Of changes made to VSE to be more Z/os compat. We have converted a few from VSE to z/os here also. We actually run a mix of LPARS with a few VM ( multiple VSE guests ), and some z/os lpars w/o VM Yes I meant to cross post it and didn't. Yes have seen a lot of VSE shops go, is sad. thanks -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christian Birr Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:36 PM To: ib...@listserv.uark.edu Subject: AW: Converting vse to z/OS Hi August, I migrated several VSE shops to MVS in the recent years (last one only a few weeks ago). The main work was on Assembler programs and teaching the stuff on the new environment (JCL, ISPF, CLIST, REXX differences etc), most high level language programs just compiled well, and even CICS migration wasn't a big deal. The only thing that really was hard to see another VSE shop gone. Not many left here in Germany... The manual is mainly valid, I don't see a reason to update yet, because most shops here didn't really use all that fancy stuff introduced the last few years. It's just VSE to MVS. Btw, the original post was on IBM-MAIN, not here on IBMVM Christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] Im Auftrag von August Carideo/RYE/US Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2014 17:13 An: ib...@listserv.uark.edu Betreff: FW: Converting vse to z/OS 1st thing you will need to convert is your available $'s I see someone else mentioned the conversion manual which as far as I know has not been updated in years To include VSE enhancements esp some z/os compatibility features -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 7:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Converting vse to z/OS Hi, I was asked to find out about tools and services to convert an application from VSE to z/OS. I asked the same question about 10 years ago, and the answers I received back then do not seem to be relevant. IF it matters, the system to be converted is in Israel. Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי חברת מלם מערכות בעמ ו/או כל חברת בת ו/או חברה קשורה שלה (להלן : החברה) וזכויות החתימה בהן, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam and/or its subsidiaries (hereinafter : Malam) regulations and signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the Malam, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the Malam seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: IEE799D VARY CONSOLE DELAYED
What type of device drives your console, ICC , 3174, etc. What doe VM show when u Query 900 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 6:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEE799D VARY CONSOLE DELAYED Hi, One of our Z/OS LPAR console is blank. So i tried vary off/on the console device 900, but I get the below message : IEE799D VARY CONSOLE DELAYED - REPLY RETRY OR CANCEL The LPAR is running over a VM as guest. During Vary on/off I get a O-PND message. Not sure to where is it allocated. D U,,,900,1 just shows as O or O-PND. Google search gives me this link : http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA09889 but it does not look to be my situation. Any suggestions ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: FW: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape The OP was the z/OS Lpar wouldn't activate after power outage with apparent configuration issues. All the backups are DDF images. The support structure recommends reloading the DS6800. They've been down for weeks at this site and is 1300 miles from mother ship. In a message dated 5/8/2014 4:22:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, august.cari...@avon.com writes: The part that’s confusing me , I guess I missed something, but where does a working z/os image come in play here ? Please let me know where I missed that I thought he was just talking about a z/10 in a remote location running VM I did not follow all of it either -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape
Why do you need a op system to validate the I/O ? You should be able to see the CHPID's that are online and operating from the HMC The CE should be able to do this from single object mode or from service mode As mentioned if DASD looks OK, it is just a matter of accessing it You can build a new I/O gen standalone with just enough devices to get the system up This is all what if - being a lot of info was not supplied But if you can't just change the load address and IPL from a utility tape sounds like it can't even find the drive Which points to I/O config 3 dif utils can be tried ICKDSF only needs the tape drive and a console, same w/ DDR, or SA VM image Loader All depends how tape was created , if tape is in doubt maybe there is a orig install tape floating around, But once again was it install from tape or CD etc. lots of unknowns here -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape Think the key is get a working VM system by whatever means available. From there validate IO config. Attach a few devices and see if they've got any data. Make a z/OS guest with required devices and see if it will fly. In a message dated 5/7/2014 5:54:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jperr...@pacbell.net writes: If the original volume was not IPL'able, then maybe the IPL data got damaged. You could try updating the IPL data on the RES volume from the starter system. If in the worst case, you should still be able to re-use existing volumes. Hardware support told you the DS6800 is fine. Instead of purging and reconfigure, you should be able to retain the current volumes. If you have access to the existing user definitions, then you should be able to retain existing user volumes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape
And where is this DVD going to load to if cpu / lpar whatever is not seeing any devices ? To single line edit mode on HMC Can't even get to ICC if OSA /OSC is not reconized -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/ is the page to download the evaluation z/VM ?5.3?). Or ordering 5.2, 5.3, 6.1. Get the file downloaded and burned on a DVD-R by the local staff and inserted into the DVD drive. http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/zzsa.html Is the stand alone ZZSA files. CD-R. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Karl Severson karl_j_sever...@raytheon.com wrote: If the original volume was not IPL'able, then maybe the IPL data got damaged. You could try updating the IPL data on the RES volume from the starter system. If in the worst case, you should still be able to re-use existing volumes. Hardware support told you the DS6800 is fine. Instead of purging and reconfigure, you should be able to retain the current volumes. If you have access to the existing user definitions, then you should be able to retain existing user volumes. Okay – I think first I have to figure out why the system won’t IPL from tape or disk. I guess they could try IPLing from a DVD if they have this starter system. I don’t know if they do or not. I’ll ask. Download a copy of ZZSA and burn it to a CD. Have Operations IPL that CD and use it to explore the volumes, specifically the Resvol and IPL required volumes (IODF Volume etc). From there you should have an idea as to what is actually broken. I’ll pass this on to the customer IBM SUPPORT does not help in situations where it's a configuration issue. If the error is the IOCDS was not updated, then they are not responsible. On the other hand, if the problem is hardware, then hardware support is responsible and if there is a software bug then software support is responsible. Everyone is responsible to point the figure at someone else so they don't have to deal with it. If you point the finger at support hard enough, they may resolve the issue for you. If you actually mean IBM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES is maintaining this system, then yes, they are responsible. It seems strange that they have been down for 3 weeks and not screaming. Maybe you should have them consider allowing you access to the hardware console (temporarily). The system crashed as a result of a power outage. All was well before that. We had an error code of ACTZ0182. That’s all I told IBM when I made the service call. What I wanted was for someone from IBM to determine if it was a hardware or software bug and go from there. At this point, no one knows if it’s an IOCDS problem or any other for that matter. Unfortunately I did not set this machine up and know very little about it. I know the zVM and Computer Associates parts obviously but with matters of the HMC, IOCDS, etc., I know very little as IBM came in and set all of that up. One guy, ONE guy came in and set up the HMC, DS6800, installed zVM and because the compiler tapes weren’t delivered yet, another person from the same department came out and installed Fortran, PASCAL, etc. Now, these are the people, or someone like them that ought to be able to determine what’s going on with the system. I’m 1300 miles away and can’t be away from SoCal (I work and live here after all) on an open ended trip until this gets sorted out though I know this would be a great learning experience if I could be there for the duration. No one at the site is an IBMer – they’re all Windows or Linux people who take care of things like backups and account maintenance although I can do a lot of that via a link assuming the system is up. This would probably be a great time to have a remote HMC! Maybe as a result of this problem, the customer will buy one. Regarding the system being down for three weeks, there is one fall back and that’s for the users to come to SoCal and use our legacy machine. At some point after the z10 gets back on its feet, any updates will be sent back to OKC and the z10 will be “caught up.” There was an evaluation version of z/VM that was bootable from a DVD in the HMC. I would give that a shot. I’ll contact the customer and see if they can find this. Thanks for all of the great posts! Karl -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:
FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape
Our auditors will not allow remote access to the HMC's But in his case if they expected him to support it remotely probably a different story -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape Right. At our shop, we have a Microsoft Terminal Services Gateway server. At home, on one of my laptops, I can connect over the Internet to this TSG Gateway. This then relays me to my local desktop (I know the OP doesn't have a local desktop, he could go to some other desktop). I am now interacting with that desktop, as if I were local. I bring up I.E. and connect (locally) to the HMC, which is on the LAN. At that point, I can IPL and do other things on the HMC (such as use the SYSC and SYSG z/VM consoles. Well, if we had z/VM). Given what the OP has said, I would _not_ be surprised if the IBM people who installed the z did not bother to connect the HMC to the LAN. I know that _we_ had a big fight putting the z9BC's HMC on the LAN. I'll not say more. I'm still very bitter towards those ex-employees. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Matthew Stitt mathwst...@bellsouth.netwrote: You do not need a remote HMC. You just need to have the local HMC available through the Internet with remote access allowed. I do this all the time. Could save you some time if that could happen. On Thu, 8 May 2014 12:39:37 -0500, Karl Severson karl_j_sever...@raytheon.com wrote: If the original volume was not IPL'able, then maybe the IPL data got damaged. You could try updating the IPL data on the RES volume from the starter system. If in the worst case, you should still be able to re-use existing volumes. Hardware support told you the DS6800 is fine. Instead of purging and reconfigure, you should be able to retain the current volumes. If you have access to the existing user definitions, then you should be able to retain existing user volumes. Okay – I think first I have to figure out why the system won’t IPL from tape or disk. I guess they could try IPLing from a DVD if they have this starter system. I don’t know if they do or not. I’ll ask. Download a copy of ZZSA and burn it to a CD. Have Operations IPL that CD and use it to explore the volumes, specifically the Resvol and IPL required volumes (IODF Volume etc). From there you should have an idea as to what is actually broken. I’ll pass this on to the customer IBM SUPPORT does not help in situations where it's a configuration issue. If the error is the IOCDS was not updated, then they are not responsible. On the other hand, if the problem is hardware, then hardware support is responsible and if there is a software bug then software support is responsible. Everyone is responsible to point the figure at someone else so they don't have to deal with it. If you point the finger at support hard enough, they may resolve the issue for you. If you actually mean IBM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES is maintaining this system, then yes, they are responsible. It seems strange that they have been down for 3 weeks and not screaming. Maybe you should have them consider allowing you access to the hardware console (temporarily). The system crashed as a result of a power outage. All was well before that. We had an error code of ACTZ0182. That’s all I told IBM when I made the service call. What I wanted was for someone from IBM to determine if it was a hardware or software bug and go from there. At this point, no one knows if it’s an IOCDS problem or any other for that matter. Unfortunately I did not set this machine up and know very little about it. I know the zVM and Computer Associates parts obviously but with matters of the HMC, IOCDS, etc., I know very little as IBM came in and set all of that up. One guy, ONE guy came in and set up the HMC, DS6800, installed zVM and because the compiler tapes weren’t delivered yet, another person from the same department came out and installed Fortran, PASCAL, etc. Now, these are the people, or someone like them that ought to be able to determine what’s going on with the system. I’m 1300 miles away and can’t be away from SoCal (I work and live here after all) on an open ended trip until this gets sorted out though I know this would be a great learning experience if I could be there for the duration. No one at the site is an IBMer – they’re all Windows or Linux people who take care of things like backups and account maintenance although I can do a lot of that via a link assuming the system is up. This would probably be a great time to have a remote HMC! Maybe as a result of this problem, the customer will buy one. Regarding the system being down for three weeks, there is one fall back and that’s for the users to come to SoCal and use our legacy machine. At some
FW: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape
Agreed If the problem Is the I/O config It doesn't matter what op sys will eventually run on the box You can code up a I/O gen on notepad put it on a USB stick Upload it from the HMC use the SA version of the gen read in the source code and load out the IOCDS And do a POR Just to get you started, you just need a minimum number of devices The part that’s confusing me , I guess I missed something, but where does a working z/os image come in play here ? Please let me know where I missed that I thought he was just talking about a z/10 in a remote location running VM I did not follow all of it either -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 4:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape W dniu 2014-05-08 21:00, August Carideo/RYE/US pisze: And where is this DVD going to load to if cpu / lpar whatever is not seeing any devices ? To single line edit mode on HMC Can't even get to ICC if OSA /OSC is not reconized Well, hard scenario. Actually you can IPL from DVD, (*no! it's ftp from YOUR workstation!* DVD stinks!), but what is the reason of starting anything from DVD, when no device is available? You won't fix anything. What you need as a prerequisite is at least simple working IOCDS. BTW: I admit I did not follow the discussion, but it seems high unlikely to lost IOCDS and working z/OS image. You can screw up the z/OS, you can destroy your IOCDS, but you cannot destroy both in one erroneous action! -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2014 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.696.052 złote. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3174's and optica Prizm Ficon to escon converters
I am in the process of setting up the ICC / OSC now, and I bet w/ all involved here you would not get it done in half a day, I did do it elsewhere in a matter of hours like you stated, but not here, w/o going into too much detail. They threw in the 2 optica boxes to make the CPU sale But no I did not change anything with the PRIZM set up, the OPTICA Techs set them up preconfigured from IO gen info sent to them We have multiple 3174's hung off the same CHPID as different CUADD's, seems we are not having issues with the head of string ones. The site you know of are they using multiple ? and on what op sys ? We have VM, VSE, and Z/os LPARS W dniu 2014-02-27 17:56, August Carideo/RYE/US pisze: Please skip all the comments about still using 3174's we are well aware, The question is, is anyone using Optica Prizm FICON to ESCON converters that have 3174's hooked to them ? Yes. (Not me actually). Wild guess: did you changed anything in PRIZM setup? Just curious: why don't you simply define one OSA chpid as OSC and connect some PCs as consoles? I can bet I could manage it within half day. At the price (components used) of fraction of PRIZM. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN