Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-19 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
I did the VPS -> JQP/VVP swap out around 2003.  Have about 1500 printers 
defined in JQP/VVP.

I find the support really good with the JQP and VVP products.  I tried NPF 
first, but the administration would have been really hard for my help desk 
people.

The only reason I did the swap out in the first place was cost.   First it was 
the cost for CPU upgrades, but I am also seeing savings in the yearly costs.

Dennis

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Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William < 
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:

> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works 
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same 
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to 
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270 nodes 
via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went with 
MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy as VPS); 
reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



>
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-14 Thread Porowski, Kenneth
Another vote for MacKinney's JQP.

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William < 
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:

> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works 
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same 
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to 
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270 nodes 
via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went with 
MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy as VPS); 
reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



>
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-14 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Carroll, William <
carro...@grangeinsurance.com> wrote:

> Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works
> well.  We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same
> devices.  Not one issue for over 2 years.
>

​I got NPF working and it did well. However, it was (is still?) hard to
administer. So hard that the VTAM person (we actually still had SNA 3270
nodes via Visara controllers) decided that it was unacceptable. We went
with MacKinney's JQP. It was easier to administer than NPF (but not as easy
as VPS); reliable (we still use it); and relatively inexpensive.​



>
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

2017-12-14 Thread Carroll, William
Another vote for NPF.  I have the same exact situation as Dana.  Works well.  
We do CICS , Mainframe, Network, printing all through the same devices.  Not 
one issue for over 2 years.

Bill

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Of Dana Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:38 AM
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Subject: [External Sender] Re: LRS VPS Printer Replacment

Here's another vote for IBM's NPF.  It does indeed work, the only rough bits is 
the sort of un-intuitive way you set up printers and different types of output. 
 Between the bare bones ISPF panels, a slightly altered NPF exit from CBT tape 
to support different forms and seperator pages, and a home written REXX to 
summarize the configuration options, we make do and it does the job for our 
small number of printers.

Dana
 
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 13:58:43 +, Jackson, Rob <rwjack...@firsttennessee.com> 
wrote:

>We successfully replaced VPS with NPF, which is included in CommServer.  It's 
>not quite as robust as VPS, but considering the price, it works beautifully.
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