Re: AW: Re: What is JES2 waitning for after $TSPL(volser),SPACE=MAX?

2014-12-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ez-1315458279.1520887...@gmx.ch, on 12/10/2014
   at 08:00 AM, Peter Hunkeler p...@gmx.ch said:

I didn't look at the I/O rate; just was mislead by the AWAITING(E2)
thinking that there is something to be done before JES2 starts
formatting. The message could be better.

The message could be better, but in the meantime the explanation could
be better, e.g., it could list member formatting as a possible cause
for AWAITING(member). Have you sent an RCF?
 
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AW: Re: What is JES2 waitning for after $TSPL(volser),SPACE=MAX?

2014-12-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Thanks for all the help, everyone
It turned out I was simply too impatient. As someone suggested, JES2 was still 
about to format the additional space. It just took so much longer that I had 
expected and the AWAITING(E2) is not very helpful.
Anyway, no need for a PMR.
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AW: Re: What is JES2 waitning for after $TSPL(volser),SPACE=MAX?

2014-12-09 Thread Peter Hunkeler
That was me.
I remember the AWAITING() from a similar action 1 year ago.
Since E2 was the member you gave the commands, this member did the
formatting and you should have been able to see that JES2 doing an
abnormally large amount of I/O on the volume. The MAS was waiting
for E2 to finish the formatting.


I didn't look at the I/O rate; just was mislead by the AWAITING(E2) thinking 
that there is something to be done before JES2 starts formatting. The message 
could be better.



I hope that while this formatting was going on that the systems were
not hung up and that they were running normally using the original
extents while the E2 system was formatting the new extent (but not
yet using it). Once the format finished the extra space could then
have been added to the available space on that volume and this
information would then be passed to the other member(s).


I didn't specificlly look for, but have not seen or heard of any problems while 
the space was being formatted. In summary, the expansion ran smooth.


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Re: AW: Re: What is JES2 waitning for after $TSPL(volser),SPACE=MAX?

2014-12-09 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Hunkeler wrote:

I didn't look at the I/O rate; just was mislead by the AWAITING(E2) thinking 
that there is something to be done before JES2 starts formatting. The message 
could be better.

Indeed. Raise a PMR for progress message, something like this 'Expanding name 
of object - 10% completed.'.

I hope that while this formatting was going on that the systems were not hung 
up and that they were running normally using the original extents while the 
E2 system was formatting the new extent (but not yet using it).

Monitors like RMF or JES2MON (?) could tell you, but I prefer progress messages 
or messages about changing rate of progress. Something like this 'Expanding 20% 
complete. Now processing x bytes per second.'

I didn't specificlly look for, but have not seen or heard of any problems 
while the space was being formatted. In summary, the expansion ran smooth.

Good. Better. Excellent! ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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