Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
I have been there and I know what you are talking about! Old solutions can also do the job but lets hope there is a new, better spin to that old solution. Best regards Dejan Stamatović CROZ D.O.O. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
It's Friday. Long ago I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Nigeria. Rode once in a taxi whose driver kept a switch (thin tree branch) on the dashboard. Whenever a swerving bicycle rider came too close, driver would grab the switch and whip the rider. No special automotive accessory required. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:28:37 -0500, John McKown wrote > >> > >> Why restrict yourself to 72 characters? For many releases now, JCL > >> has imposed no such restriction on SYSIN. > >> > >> Old habits, however detrimental, die hard. > > > >Job may be in a "normal" production JCL library. Trying to convince > >a production control person that JCL can be in anything other than an > >FB/80 library is likely to be a very frustrating experience. > >Sometimes we must > do > >things old style just to placate other people. ... > > > Sigh. Will this take longer than it took to remove the whipsockets > from the design of motorcar dashboards? > Oh, wow! I want a whipsocket on my dashboard. I could use it to hold a very long bull whip to use on people who are irritating me while I drive. Why did we ever remove such a useful facility?!? > > OK. An alternative technology, but alas, newer and subject perhaps to > greater future shock: > > Define the long data set name in a SET statement. > code "INPUT DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY" to enable substitution of the > symbol. > > Caution: if the SET precedes an EXEC, astonishing, perhaps undesirable > results may occur. > > -- gil > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:28:37 -0500, John McKown wrote > >> > >> Why restrict yourself to 72 characters? For many releases now, JCL > >> has imposed no such restriction on SYSIN. > >> > >> Old habits, however detrimental, die hard. > > > >Job may be in a "normal" production JCL library. Trying to convince a > >production control person that JCL can be in anything other than an FB/80 > >library is likely to be a very frustrating experience. Sometimes we must > do > >things old style just to placate other people. ... > > > Sigh. Will this take longer than it took to remove the whipsockets from > the design of motorcar dashboards? > Oh, wow! I want a whipsocket on my dashboard. I could use it to hold a very long bull whip to use on people who are irritating me while I drive. Why did we ever remove such a useful facility?!? > > OK. An alternative technology, but alas, newer and subject perhaps to > greater future shock: > > Define the long data set name in a SET statement. > code "INPUT DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY" to enable substitution of the > symbol. > > Caution: if the SET precedes an EXEC, astonishing, perhaps undesirable > results may occur. > > -- gil > -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
Thanks John, I will try out your suggestion. Thanks to all who responded and help. From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:54 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John, > Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. > For example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate > > If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried > typing + as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' > (REAllocate. > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > +(REAllocate > > However the command didn't work because of unbalanced parenthesis. Do > you have a solution? > Hum, seems like it should work according to https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halu001/ftpreq.htm mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCJ' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' + (REALLOCATE or maybe try mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCJ' + 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' (REALLOCATE > Thanks. From: John McKown > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 2:04 PM > Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > > > > If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and > > creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: > > > > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > > (REAllocate > > > Oh, that is good. I'm still stuck on z/OS 1.12, so I'm not up on the > newest and greatest FTP commands. I need to go read the 2.3 books on that > to see what other goodies exist. > > > -- > UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that > would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:28:37 -0500, John McKown wrote >> >> Why restrict yourself to 72 characters? For many releases now, JCL >> has imposed no such restriction on SYSIN. >> >> Old habits, however detrimental, die hard. > >Job may be in a "normal" production JCL library. Trying to convince a >production control person that JCL can be in anything other than an FB/80 >library is likely to be a very frustrating experience. Sometimes we must do >things old style just to placate other people. ... > Sigh. Will this take longer than it took to remove the whipsockets from the design of motorcar dashboards? OK. An alternative technology, but alas, newer and subject perhaps to greater future shock: Define the long data set name in a SET statement. code "INPUT DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY" to enable substitution of the symbol. Caution: if the SET precedes an EXEC, astonishing, perhaps undesirable results may occur. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 12:54:06 +, willie bunter wrote: > > >John, > >Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. > For example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate > > > >If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried > typing + as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' > (REAllocate. > >mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' >+(REAllocate > > > Why restrict yourself to 72 characters? For many releases now, JCL > has imposed no such restriction on SYSIN. > > Old habits, however detrimental, die hard. > Job may be in a "normal" production JCL library. Trying to convince a production control person that JCL can be in anything other than an FB/80 library is likely to be a very frustrating experience. Sometimes we must do things old style just to placate other people. Yes, it would be nice to educate people. But it can be _impossible_ in some cases. I had a JCL checker which I set up to do a WARNING if the JCL contained obsolete but acceptable parameters. I was raked over the coals by a programmer who "has been coding JCL for over 25 years, damn it!" when I flagged a SEP= in his JCL. He _refused_ to stop coding it. And he complained up the chain that the JCL checker was broken because it flagged the statement as "accepted by unneeded". He demanded it be changed to not issue the warning because it was distracting to him and "hiding" any "real problems". > > -- gil > > -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:54 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John, > Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. > For example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate > > If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried > typing + as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' > (REAllocate. > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' >+(REAllocate > > However the command didn't work because of unbalanced parenthesis. Do > you have a solution? > Hum, seems like it should work according to https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halu001/ftpreq.htm mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCJ' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' + (REALLOCATE or maybe try mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCJ' + 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' (REALLOCATE > Thanks. From: John McKown > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 2:04 PM > Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > > > >If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and > > creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: > > > >mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > > (REAllocate > > > Oh, that is good. I'm still stuck on z/OS 1.12, so I'm not up on the > newest and greatest FTP commands. I need to go read the 2.3 books on that > to see what other goodies exist. > > > -- > UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that > would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 12:54:06 +, willie bunter wrote: >John, >Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. For >example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' >(REAllocate > >If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried typing + >as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' (REAllocate. >mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' >+(REAllocate > Why restrict yourself to 72 characters? For many releases now, JCL has imposed no such restriction on SYSIN. Old habits, however detrimental, die hard. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS - CORRECTION
Sorry it wasn't parenthesis but: Mismatched quotes on pathname 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW'(REAllocate From: willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:54 AM Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS John, Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. For example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' (REAllocate If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried typing + as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' (REAllocate. mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' +(REAllocate However the command didn't work because of unbalanced parenthesis. Do you have a solution? Thanks. From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 2:04 PM Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and > creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: > > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate Oh, that is good. I'm still stuck on z/OS 1.12, so I'm not up on the newest and greatest FTP commands. I need to go read the 2.3 books on that to see what other goodies exist. -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
John, Quick question. Could you tell me how I can continue on the next line. For example :mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' (REAllocate If the output disn has more characters I run out of space . I tried typing + as a continuation (in col 72) and then on the next lineI typed ' (REAllocate. mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' +(REAllocate However the command didn't work because of unbalanced parenthesis. Do you have a solution? Thanks. From: John McKown To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 2:04 PM Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and > creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: > > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate Oh, that is good. I'm still stuck on z/OS 1.12, so I'm not up on the newest and greatest FTP commands. I need to go read the 2.3 books on that to see what other goodies exist. -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and > creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: > > mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > (REAllocate Oh, that is good. I'm still stuck on z/OS 1.12, so I'm not up on the newest and greatest FTP commands. I need to go read the 2.3 books on that to see what other goodies exist. -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
If you are transferring a PDS from one MVS LPAR to another and creating the target PDS, couldn't you use: mvsput 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' (REAllocate -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:47 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John, > > I am stuck again. Would you have the parm when FTPing a PDS/PDSE? > > I tried the following: > > QUOTE SITE PRI=50 SEC=20 CYL > MPUT 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL(*)' + > 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > QUIT > > That MPUT command just looks "wrong" to me. I am assuming that you want to send all the members in FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL to a new PDSE called DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW. What I think you need is akin to: -- use the next two if transferring within same z/OS system (don't key in this line) quote site pri=50 sec=20 cyl mkdir 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' (like 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL -- or use the next two if the receiving dataset is on a different z/OS system (don't key in this line) quote site lrecl=? recfm=? pri=50 sec=20 cyl dir=100 pdstype=pdse mkdir 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' -- common commands (don't key in this line) cd 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' lcd 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' prompt mput * bye You can use the first "quote & mkdir" lines - the one with the "(like ..." - only if the FTP.--- DSN is on the system from which you are doing the ftp, which is not likely. If you're sending from one z/OS to another, then use the "quote site" and the second "mkdir". You must use the "cd" command to direct the output into the DRP.--- dataset. You must use the "lcd" command to read the member from the FTP.--- dataset. I put in the "prompt" command to disable the normal prompt for confirming the transfer of each member. The "mput *' actually transfer the members from the FTP.--- to the DRP.--- dataset. -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:47 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John, > > I am stuck again. Would you have the parm when FTPing a PDS/PDSE? > > I tried the following: > > QUOTE SITE PRI=50 SEC=20 CYL > MPUT 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL(*)' + > 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' > QUIT > > That MPUT command just looks "wrong" to me. I am assuming that you want to send all the members in FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL to a new PDSE called DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW. What I think you need is akin to: -- use the next two if transferring within same z/OS system (don't key in this line) quote site pri=50 sec=20 cyl mkdir 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' (like 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL -- or use the next two if the receiving dataset is on a different z/OS system (don't key in this line) quote site lrecl=? recfm=? pri=50 sec=20 cyl dir=100 pdstype=pdse mkdir 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' -- common commands (don't key in this line) cd 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILD.JCL.NEW' lcd 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL' prompt mput * bye You can use the first "quote & mkdir" lines - the one with the "(like ..." - only if the FTP.--- DSN is on the system from which you are doing the ftp, which is not likely. If you're sending from one z/OS to another, then use the "quote site" and the second "mkdir". You must use the "cd" command to direct the output into the DRP.--- dataset. You must use the "lcd" command to read the member from the FTP.--- dataset. I put in the "prompt" command to disable the normal prompt for confirming the transfer of each member. The "mput *' actually transfer the members from the FTP.--- to the DRP.--- dataset. -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE - FTP PDS
John, I am stuck again. Would you have the parm when FTPing a PDS/PDSE? I tried the following: QUOTE SITE PRI=50 SEC=20 CYL MPUT 'FTP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL(*)' + 'DRP.V8050.MVS.BUILDJCL.NEW' QUIT On Fri, 9/1/17, John McKown wrote: Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Friday, September 1, 2017, 11:27 AM On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Good Day To All, > > I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to > another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. > > Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP > batch job? > > I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works > however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are > not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. > > I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would > satisfy my requirement. > > Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. > > //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, > // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* > //INPUT DD * > O00070 PASSWORD > QUOTE SITE PRI=20 SEC=20 CYL > PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + > 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' > QUIT > /* > // > > Thanks. > The QUOTE SITE above is equivalent to SPACE=(CYL,(20,20)). Of course, this is a "hard coded" value which may be too large for some DSNs and not large enough for others. If you need something which "dynamically adjusts" the values, then you'll need to do more work. FTP itself cannot do this for you. -- Caution! The OP is an hyperpolysyllabicsesquipedalianist and this email may cause stress to those with hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Also, consider the recently added FTP sub-commands MVSPUT and MVSGET, if at z/OS V2R2 or higher -- these commands do supply SPACE attributes and directory-blocks, where required. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
John, Thanks for your help. It worked. Thanks to all who helped me out. Charlesl, I will try take a look at the site you suggested. On Fri, 9/1/17, John McKown wrote: Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Received: Friday, September 1, 2017, 11:27 AM On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Good Day To All, > > I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to > another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. > > Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP > batch job? > > I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works > however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are > not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. > > I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would > satisfy my requirement. > > Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. > > //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, > // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* > //INPUT DD * > O00070 PASSWORD > QUOTE SITE PRI=20 SEC=20 CYL > PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + > 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' > QUIT > /* > // > > Thanks. > The QUOTE SITE above is equivalent to SPACE=(CYL,(20,20)). Of course, this is a "hard coded" value which may be too large for some DSNs and not large enough for others. If you need something which "dynamically adjusts" the values, then you'll need to do more work. FTP itself cannot do this for you. -- Caution! The OP is an hyperpolysyllabicsesquipedalianist and this email may cause stress to those with hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
Allow SMS to do the work for you of releasing the space. Allocate the files using the QUOTE SITE with enough space to handle the largest transfer (plus growth), assign to SMS classes that will release the unused space and then allow SMS to do the work for you during the normal SMS reclaim processing. You will lose space for some time, but not until the data set is deleted. Craig This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
> If you need something which "dynamically adjusts" > the values, then you'll need to do more work. FTP itself cannot do this for > you. Yeah, SENDSITE automagically sends the RECFM and so forth but not the space requirements. Go figure. And I don't think FTP supports RLSE, which would effectively provide appropriate sizing (allocate as large the largest dataset you anticipate transferring; RLSE the excess). Some very clever use of Rexx might allow you to dynamically build and run an IEFBR14 on the remote site that would allocate the appropriate size. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 8:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Good Day To All, > > I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar > to another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. > > Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP > batch job? > > I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works > however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the > dsns are not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. > > I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that > would satisfy my requirement. > > Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. > > //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* > //INPUT DD * > O00070 PASSWORD > QUOTE SITE PRI=20 SEC=20 CYL > PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + > 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' > QUIT > /* > // > > Thanks. > The QUOTE SITE above is equivalent to SPACE=(CYL,(20,20)). Of course, this is a "hard coded" value which may be too large for some DSNs and not large enough for others. If you need something which "dynamically adjusts" the values, then you'll need to do more work. FTP itself cannot do this for you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
If you're going to be doing that a lot check out my FTPBATCH ISPF dialog that can do the FTP in the foreground or generate batch JCL. It can be found at www.lbdsoftware.com or in CBTTAPE.ORG file 312 -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE Look up the SITE subcommand. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halu001/site.htm Look at CYLinders and so forth. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FTP JCL EXAMPLE Good Day To All, I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP batch job? I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would satisfy my requirement. Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * O00070 PASSWORD PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' QUIT /* // -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:19 AM, willie bunter < 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Good Day To All, > > I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to > another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. > > Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP > batch job? > > I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works > however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are > not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. > > I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would > satisfy my requirement. > > Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. > > //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, > // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* > //INPUT DD * > O00070 PASSWORD > QUOTE SITE PRI=20 SEC=20 CYL > PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + > 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' > QUIT > /* > // > > Thanks. > The QUOTE SITE above is equivalent to SPACE=(CYL,(20,20)). Of course, this is a "hard coded" value which may be too large for some DSNs and not large enough for others. If you need something which "dynamically adjusts" the values, then you'll need to do more work. FTP itself cannot do this for you. -- Caution! The OP is an hyperpolysyllabicsesquipedalianist and this email may cause stress to those with hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FTP JCL EXAMPLE
Look up the SITE subcommand. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.halu001/site.htm Look at CYLinders and so forth. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FTP JCL EXAMPLE Good Day To All, I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP batch job? I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would satisfy my requirement. Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * O00070 PASSWORD PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' QUIT /* // -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
FTP JCL EXAMPLE
Good Day To All, I am trying to FTP a dsn of 90 cylinders from one MAINFRAME Lpar to another. The FTP function is unsuccessful because of a space abend. Would anybody have an example of how to code the space parm in the FTP batch job? I thought about pre-allocation the dsn on the target LPAR. This works however because of other dsns which will be FTP'd, the size of the dsns are not known because the application batch jobs are run overnight. I looked at IBM KNOWLEDGE CENTER but I couldn't find anything that would satisfy my requirement. Here is my batchjob. Please note I blanked out the IP address. //STEPFTP EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=4096K,TIME=5, // PARM='1XX.1XX.XX.XXX //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUT DD * O00070 PASSWORD PUT 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' + 'O00070.OTTCAUDR.AUDITLOG' QUIT /* // Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
