Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
Tom you have given away the secret Recruit smart people who enjoy working with other smart people on hard problems for customers. They don't have to be experienced mainframers when they are hired. College recruiting is absolutely possible and partnerships with universities can be fruitful. I saw some great Apprenticeship programs in the UK recently from Barclay's bank and others. Compuware's engineering cadre includes many new to mainframe developers. What Makes Millennials Love the Mainframe? Advice from Next-gen Devs https://youtu.be/CL72xilyve8 Two interesting things there was no script for this we shot a lot of video just letting people talk and then edited it down. Second I forgot this was almost two years ago and one of the devs is now a development manager.They next generation of mainframe developers won't follow the same path we did but they are quite capable of taking care of the platform for the next 50 years. Best Regards, Sam Knutson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires! Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies hear about this and consider it. The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
W dniu 2019-11-10 o 17:01, Tom Brennan pisze: Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies hear about this and consider it. 7 folks? Well, here in Poland we have technical univerisity teaching mainframe as IT specialization. Obviously the students are rather young. Not to mention there are many mainframers under 35 or even under 30. And that works. There are candidates for hire, foreign companies open offices here, just to hire "new blood". -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2019 r. wynosi 169.347.928 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.347.928 as at 1 January 2019. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
The Leipzig university (Germany) has a modern mainframe (I think z14) and is teaching mainframe languages as well. ITschak On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:18 PM Bill Ogden wrote: > >Date:Sun, 10 Nov 2019 08:01:24 -0800 > >From:Tom Brennan > >Subject: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires! > > > >Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. > > There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among > >all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out > >they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 > >year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed > >for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies > >hear about this and consider it. > > A few weeks ago I went through some zPDT material with 3 young people > (very young, from my perspective!) > who were recently hired by a European customer. The customer's intention > was to "grow" new sysprogs. > Wow! They were each using zPDT systems as their educational sandboxes. > Apparently a few companies > are preparing for the future. > > Bill > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Contiguous Monitoring for Legacy **| * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
>Date:Sun, 10 Nov 2019 08:01:24 -0800 >From:Tom Brennan >Subject: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires! > >Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. > There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among >all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out >they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 >year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed >for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies >hear about this and consider it. A few weeks ago I went through some zPDT material with 3 young people (very young, from my perspective!) who were recently hired by a European customer. The customer's intention was to "grow" new sysprogs. Wow! They were each using zPDT systems as their educational sandboxes. Apparently a few companies are preparing for the future. Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
I hope this is growing trend and continues elsewhere. Last week there were at least 25 of these young ones at the UK Guide Share Conference. They had there own '101' track. A number of sessions were actually presented by those who have been working with IBM Z for a couple of years! If this continues at this rate, I will need to continue attending just to bring the average age up:-) Regards Parwez Hamid From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of scott Ford Sent: 11 November 2019 01:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires! Great I love it On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:29 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > At Share in Phoenix there were some young folks from a Swedish bank. Still > writing in Assembler. > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > There are still a lot of mainframes. The last conference I went to, I > > noticed quite a few people under 40 in attendance. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 2:36 PM, Tom Brennan < > > t...@tombrennansoftware.com> wrote: > > > > Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. > > There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among > > all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out > > they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 > > year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed > > for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies > > hear about this and consider it. > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
Great I love it On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:29 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > At Share in Phoenix there were some young folks from a Swedish bank. Still > writing in Assembler. > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM Bill Johnson < > 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > There are still a lot of mainframes. The last conference I went to, I > > noticed quite a few people under 40 in attendance. > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 2:36 PM, Tom Brennan < > > t...@tombrennansoftware.com> wrote: > > > > Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. > > There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among > > all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out > > they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 > > year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed > > for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies > > hear about this and consider it. > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
At Share in Phoenix there were some young folks from a Swedish bank. Still writing in Assembler. On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > There are still a lot of mainframes. The last conference I went to, I > noticed quite a few people under 40 in attendance. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 2:36 PM, Tom Brennan < > t...@tombrennansoftware.com> wrote: > > Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. > There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among > all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out > they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 > year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed > for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies > hear about this and consider it. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
There are still a lot of mainframes. The last conference I went to, I noticed quite a few people under 40 in attendance. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 2:36 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies hear about this and consider it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
I saw 7 new college mainframe hires!
Last week I was invited to an IBM z15 meeting for a particular customer. There were 7 younger folks in the row behind me who stood out among all the (let's say) "older" people there. I was amazed when I found out they were recently hired out of college by the customer and are on a 3 year mainframe training program. Great work by the manager who pushed for a long-term solution, and got it approved. I hope other companies hear about this and consider it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
