Re: TADz
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 10:29:54 -0600, Steve Beaver wrote: >TADz spins out a .CSV file for each LPAR/PLEX in the house. It has the >usual basic into > Are you asking a question? Is the .CSV created on the z? The desktop? Elsewhere? >Vendor, etc., Status TADz is basically stipid. It will tell me the PDS and >VOLSER for this discussion. > >I have sanitized the .CSV to get rid of the extraneous Not Installed >messages. > What tool? >The problem is points at a PDS and says it 8 occurrences of a product in >that library. I'm guessing > Can Rexx eliminate the duplicates? >MS Sort can't do the games Syncsort and DF/SORT can do and help me compress >this list to > >A single line item vs 8 line items. I can convert the .XLS back to a .CSV >and upload it and > Where does the .XLS come from? >Use REXX and Sort to do what I need done > Could Regina on the desktop eliminate some steps? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
TADz
TADz spins out a .CSV file for each LPAR/PLEX in the house. It has the usual basic into Vendor, etc., Status TADz is basically stipid. It will tell me the PDS and VOLSER for this discussion. I have sanitized the .CSV to get rid of the extraneous Not Installed messages. The problem is points at a PDS and says it 8 occurrences of a product in that library. I'm guessing MS Sort can't do the games Syncsort and DF/SORT can do and help me compress this list to A single line item vs 8 line items. I can convert the .XLS back to a .CSV and upload it and Use REXX and Sort to do what I need done -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
TADz
I have developed a major hate for TADz and IBM's documentation of the product. As I read the doc, the only way to tell TADz to leave OMVS/zFS alone is to PE SUPERUSER.FILESYS.** CLASS(UNIXPRIV) UACC(NONE) and since we use TSS TSS PERMIT(*) UNIXPRIV(SUPERUSER.FILESYS.**) ACCESS(NONE) Guys, Am I missing something. TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz and SMF
I know that the offending job is and it will not be run again until I can figure out What and why -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andreas von Imhof Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TADz and SMF Turning it off in SMFPRMxx is like putting your head in the sand. Turn it off in the application, just take a look at the install manual. These kind of "new" applications from IBM can burn a lot of CPU in generating those SMF records. For example we have IBM's Information Broker. Someone turned on SMF logging for that on our dev LPAR's (they call it tracing). SMF data was only 30GB per day but CPU overhead was a massive 350 MSU per hour! As far as the record type 131 goes, I think that that is what your colleague assigned in the install. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz and SMF
Turning it off in SMFPRMxx is like putting your head in the sand. Turn it off in the application, just take a look at the install manual. These kind of "new" applications from IBM can burn a lot of CPU in generating those SMF records. For example we have IBM's Information Broker. Someone turned on SMF logging for that on our dev LPAR's (they call it tracing). SMF data was only 30GB per day but CPU overhead was a massive 350 MSU per hour! As far as the record type 131 goes, I think that that is what your colleague assigned in the install. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz and SMF
That is what I'm going Regards, Steve Beaver st...@stevebeaver.com Office : 806-368-3859 Cell : 806-300-9481 No man is a true believer unless he desires for his brother that, what he desires for himself. This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic email or its contents (including any attachments) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 5:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TADz and SMF Turn them off in SMFPRMxx? Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Beaver Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 6:02:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TADz and SMF **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** We installed TADz on one of my TEST Lpars All of a sudden I have 3 SMF DS's going full with a massive quantity of 231 records. Does TADz cut SMF records and If so how can I turn them off? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz and SMF
Turn them off in SMFPRMxx? Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Beaver Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2022 6:02:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TADz and SMF **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** We installed TADz on one of my TEST Lpars All of a sudden I have 3 SMF DS's going full with a massive quantity of 231 records. Does TADz cut SMF records and If so how can I turn them off? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
TADz and SMF
We installed TADz on one of my TEST Lpars All of a sudden I have 3 SMF DS's going full with a massive quantity of 231 records. Does TADz cut SMF records and If so how can I turn them off? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz or P-Tracker?
I have installed TADz, it wasn't bad. Also, if you have Omegamon products, TADz can be used as input to PARMGEN. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) [lionel.d...@va.gov] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TADz or P-Tracker? Can anyone comment on list or direct message about either TADz or P-Tracker for software asset management. Or is there another option available? Thanks in advance -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential and protected by law from unauthorized disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz or P-Tracker?
On 2017-08-22 11:24 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. , TRA wrote: Can anyone comment on list or direct message about either TADz or P-Tracker for software asset management. Hi Lionel, I would imagine that the choice depends on what you want it to tell you, and how much you are prepared to pay (money, resources, etc.) to get it. Do you want to know about programs, products or both? Do you want to know about LPA program usage? Do you want product identification? Do you want product version/release details? Do you want to know about UNIX programs? Do you want to track Java usage? Do you want to know what software may be lurking on DASD even if it's not being used? Do you want to look at the data as an asset manager, or as a systems programmer, or both? Do you want reporting to be browser-based, scheduled batch job(s), or both? Do you want trend reports? I expect there's plenty of other questions that could be added to the above list. TADz requires a data base. Most use DB2 but SQLite is also possible. You only need the data base on 1 LPAR to which you send the collected information from all LPARs. If DASD is shared then "sending" is easy. Disclosure: I've spent my 10 years at IBM on the TADz team (Dev & L3). I will be leaving IBM's employ at the end of this month (August 2017). Actually, I was also the last maintainer (L3) of TLCMz (formerly Isogon's SoftAudit) until it went EOS in 2010 (but am not at all a TLCMz or SoftAudit usage expert). The only other IBM software I ever supported was DLA for z/OS (2014-2016). Cheers, Greg P.S. If you have any questions about TADz then feel free to email me and I'll endeavour to get the answer for you. For the next week or so use gpr...@au1.hal.com where each letter of "hal" has to incremented to the next letter in the alphabet. :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz or P-Tracker?
I installed P-Tracker when we still had our mainframe; the product is excellent and the support is outstanding. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TADz or P-Tracker? Can anyone comment on list or direct message about either TADz or P-Tracker for software asset management. Or is there another option available? Thanks in advance -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
TADz or P-Tracker?
Can anyone comment on list or direct message about either TADz or P-Tracker for software asset management. Or is there another option available? Thanks in advance -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
TADz
List; Are there any other good alternatives to TADz for z/OS asset discovery? Thanks; Nathan Pfister zOS Systems Programmer AES\PHEAA - Tech Services This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addressees only. If you receive this message in error please delete or destroy this message and/or attachments. The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz
We installed TADz as POC. It was easy to install, easy to run, and easy to clone among sysplexes. AFAIK it requires DB2 on every system you want to monitor. Then Corporate policy turned to BMC DISCOVERY in part because it had already been established on other platforms. DISCOVERY uses what I call 'MAINVIEW Infrastructure'. If you currently run MAINVIEW the product or one of the other infrastructure exploiter products, then you already have in place much of what's required. Not all BMC products are exploiters. APPTUNE happens to be one; there are many others. MAINVIEW Infrastructure is complex, requires several started tasks, and requires oodles of TLC (and vendor help) to clone among sysplexes. It does not require DB2 but does require some kind of off-platform server to pull data from the mainframe via TCP/IP and a SAF userid with appropriate READ authority. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Nathan J Pfister npfis...@aessuccess.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 01/17/2014 06:56 AM Subject:TADz Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU List; Are there any other good alternatives to TADz for z/OS asset discovery? Thanks; Nathan Pfister zOS Systems Programmer AES\PHEAA - Tech Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TADz
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:20:31 -0800, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We installed TADz as POC. It was easy to install, easy to run, and easy to clone among sysplexes. AFAIK it requires DB2 on every system you want to monitor. Serveral clients of mine run TADz. DB2 is only required on a single system. However, all the monitored systems have a monitoring task and data gets FTPed / processed on the system running the DB2. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://search390.techtarget.com/ateExperts/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
