Re: HCPCLS174E Paging I/O error; IPL failed - on second level z/VM

2007-03-20 Thread Stefan Raabe
Thanks for the hints.. but 

i am pretty sure all page packs where formatted, and that there was / is
no overlap at no time.

Anyway, i re-formatted and gave 1g of storage to the 2nd level vm, no
problems so far.

Regards, Stefan





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Stefan,

As already mentioned, this looks suspiciously like you did not fully
format ALL cylinders required for CP's use.  In this case the PAGE space
-- but CP also needs all the cylinders allocated to SPOL, DRCT, WARM,
CKPT, and if used, DUMP to be formatted with CPFMTXA (ICKDSF under the
covers) before use.  You can format the PAGE cylinders without loss any
time that system is down.

The easiest solution is to carefully document where your second level page
cylinders are, bring down your second level system, link to or attach
those disks from MAINT on first level, and completely format those
cylinders.  We suffered a crash after converting to VM/XA every Monday
morning at about 08:45, with a similar message.  The system was IPLed and
came up and stayed up until the next IPL.  We checked power supplies,
system load, and all sorts of things at that timeframe.  It took a few
Monday morning crashes to discover that I had formatted one few DASD slots
than CP was told to use for paging on one DASD.  I don't remember why it
only failed only on Monday mornings (after regular Sunday evening IPLs,
and with a big Monday morning logon surge) while we could IPL after the
crash, experience a big logon surge and but still stayed up.

It could also be that some other OS is writing on the PAGE cylinders. Even
if you format the second level system's page cylinders (described above)
-- be sure that they were not corrupted by another system.  Check that
only CP on your second level system has write-access to its page
cylinders.  Look in the second level directory (using DIRMAP or DISKMAP or
whatever ESM product you use to map disks) for any MDISKs that overlap
that area -- including full-pack disks.  Then look in the first level
directory (again, using DISKMAP or DIRMAP or whatever ESM product you use
to map disks) for anything allocated on the second level system's page
cylinders.  If you find unintended write access, correct it before it
happens again.

Then check to see if those DASD are mounted on another, external system.
Once a long, long time ago when I worked for Kraft Foods we found CHEESE
in CP's general purpose registers when processing an ABEND dump .  Well,
actually it was EBCDIC for CHEESE, which was a word in a report that had
been written to a temporary dataset on an MVS system where the Operator
had mounted one of VM's paging DASD as public.  VM paged out to that
volume, the MVS system wrote its application report on the VM page
cylinders, VM paged in and promptly crashed with CHEESE in its registers.
No CE's were required to fix the problem; just getting the volume varied
offline on MVS, and running CPFMT (before CPFMTXA, and someone else's
job) on the volume to write a dummy VTOC thereon to make it look full to
other systems.   :-)

Let us know what was wrong so we all learn.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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Hello List,


i was working on a a second level VM (z/VM 5.2, 5203RSU applied)
when i got these messages after IPL when trying to log on users:

HCPCLS174E Paging I/O error; IPL failed
HCPCLS059E AUTOLOG failed for AUTOLOG1 - IPL failed

I was running with 384 Meg, so i made it 512meg and after ipl everything
worked fine again.

After some ipl's (dont know exactly, 3-5) i got the same problem again.
This time i drained the page devices, and after i drained them all
i was able to log on users.

Do i have a bad dasd pack as described in the HCPCLS174E documentation?
Or is this somehow caused by a main / auxilliary page storage
constellation?

Is someone able to put some light on this?

Thanks + Regards, Stefan




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DB2 Dataunload in z/VM and Load Data in z/OS with Format SQL/DS problem

2007-03-20 Thread Bertil Starck
Hi!

Maybe someone has experience in this case and can give some hints.

We try to do a Dataload in z/OS of a DB2-table that we did a DataUnload in 
z/VM.


In the z/VM I did:


'PIPE CMS FILEDEF OUTPUT1 DISK KSH4 DATA D4  (RECFM VBS LRECL 236' 

Here's the log from the successfull Dataunload:

1ARI0801I DBS Utility started: 03/16/07 09:49:47. 
  AUTOCOMMIT = OFF ERRORMODE = OFF 
  ISOLATION LEVEL = REPEATABLE READ 
0-- DATAUNLOAD 
 -- SELECT * 
 -- FROM KSH4.BTPOST; 
 -- OUTFILE(OUTPUT1) 
 ARI0852I DATAUNLOAD processing started. 
 ARI0868I DNAME=OUTPUT1 RECFM=U RECSZ=236 BLKSIZE=236 
 ARI0836I Default output record data field positions: 
 ARI0837I FFDAG 5-14 
 ARI0837I FFAR 16-21 
...and so on

Sending the file to z/OS with FTP 

This is the sysin DD-cards for the job in z/OS:

* Top of Data *
LOAD DATA RESUME NO REPLACE LOG NO INDDN SYSREC NOCOPYPEND 
FORMAT SQL/DS 
INTO TABLE KSH4.X99A0300 
 Bottom of Data ***


This is the result:

T DSNURWBF - AN INVALID SQL/DS FORMAT RECORD WAS ENCOUNTERED   
T DSNURWBF - (RE)LOAD PHASE STATISTICS - NUMBER OF INPUT RECORDS 
PROCESSED=1 
NUGBAC - UTILITY DATA BASE SERVICES MEMORY EXECUTION ABENDED, 
REASON=X'00E40323'


The first bytes in the output from the Dataunload looks like this in 
Hextype:

00E6 00E2 F2F0F0F0 60F0F660 F0F24040
  W S2 0 0 0  - 0 6 -  0 2 


Without Hextype:

WS2000-06-02

Maybe this first 4 byte is the problem, any hints?


Best Regards

Bertil Starck
Handelsbanken
CDTI-S
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Re: PAV and VSE guest

2007-03-20 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Dave,

I would concentrate on MDC iso. PAV for VSE-fullpacks. When we started
using MDC for VSE-dasd, we saw a real boost in throughput even though
our real dasd already had quite a large cache. 

Once MDC has been activated, you can use a monitor (or QMDC EXEC,
written by K. Buelens, should be on the VM-download pages) to get an
idea of the MDC hit-ratio per minidisk. Keep MDC on for fullpacks with
good hit-ratios, and turn it off for the really bad ones. You could even
re-arrange your VSE-files onto mostly-read fullpacks vs. mostly write
minidisks.
We use about 800MB for MDC (no xSTORE). Using more storage didn't really
help. 

A good example for MDC success is the fullpack where DOSRES and SYSWK1
reside: it has an average MDC Hit ratio of 96%. Some of our
database(IDMS) fullpacks get 90% as well...

Just give it a try.

Bye,
Geert.  

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Subject: PAV and VSE guest

I was recently reviewing this:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/storman/pav/pav2.html
at the behest of my manager. He is looking to extend the life of and
better utilize our current hardware. We are running z/VM 5.2 on a z800,
with a single z/VSE 3.1.2 guest, using Shark 2105-F20 disk. We currently
use DEDICATED volumes for z/VSE. I am not necessarily against changing
these volumes to minidisks if there is a performance benefit to be
gained. However, from my reading of the above referenced article, it
appears to me that converting them to minidisks and running PAV is
going to gain me about ZERO, since all I have accessing the disks is a
single z/VSE guest.

Is this true, or am I missing something and should look into PAV and
minidisks for my single z/VSE guest? It looks to me that multiple z/VSE
guests sharing volumes on minidisk _may_ benefit from PAV under VM, but
a single one won't.
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Re: Moving on

2007-03-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I passed on Richard's Moving on to another person here at Cornell who 
knew Richard at Rice.  This is what she had to say:


I wonder if Richard still wears red socks to work now that he
is a lawyer :)

Vicky

Jim Bohnsack

Richard A. Schafer wrote:


After over 22 years of working on VM and my MailBook email software, I have
decided to stop.
snip

The past 22 years of software development work on MailBook and my
involvement with the VM community have been exciting, fun, and a tremendous
experience.  I have learned much in the process and have enjoyed the
contacts I've made with VM and MailBook users over those years.  And I think
I made a useful contribution to the community with this work.  I put aside
that time with a certain nostalgia, but with a recognition that the time has
come to move on.  As some of you may know, in 1995 I left Rice University
and became an attorney, beginning a practice in intellectual property law
where I am now Senior Counsel with Akin Gump Strauss Hauer  Feld LLP.  So
while this portion of my life is ending, others are continuing in exciting
ways--I'm not ready to retire yet.  

 


You can continue to contact me for the foreseeable future at the same postal
and email address or at my law practice address listed below.  I would love
to hear from any of you at any time.  But for now,

 


So long.

 


Richard A. Schafer

MailBook

6632 Fairfield Drive

Houston, Texas 77023

t: 713-921-1433

f: 713-921-1366

 


or

 


Richard A. Schafer
Akin Gump Strauss Hauer  Feld LLP
 Louisiana Street, 44th Floor
Houston, Texas 77002
t: 713-220-8184
f: 713-220-2384

 

 



  


John W. Backus, 1924-2007

2007-03-20 Thread dave
The New York Times has a fine obituary (requires
registration):
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/business/20backus.html?_r=1hporef=slogin


Re: Adding help files

2007-03-20 Thread Kris Buelens

It woud be better to use VMFCOPY instead of COPY.  VMFCOPY will list the
copied files in the VMSES PARTCAT.  This catalog allows you to find out to
which product a file belongs.

--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Building NonRACF CP Module

2007-03-20 Thread Colin Allinson
We have RACF as our ESM and the RACF hooks are integrated into the CP 
build as per the RACF program directory. 

Occasionally I would like to build an updated Non-RACF CPLOAD MODULE for 
our build/maintenance system and one other small server that don't have an 
ESM.

Up to now we have built just one Non-RACF system at the start and just 
stayed with that - not ideal without any service applied.

Is there an easy way to switch between a RACF and a Non-RACF CP build.


Colin G Allinson
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Re: Moving on

2007-03-20 Thread Martha McConaghy
Richard,

You will be greatly missed!!!  I still use MAILBOOK everyday as my primary
email program (the only one I know won't get infected with a virus...%-) )
I have to use Notes and Thunderbird periodically (grudgingly), but I live
in MAILBOOK.

Thanks for one of the greatest CMS apps of all time and for all the
years of great support.

Martha


John Backus

2007-03-20 Thread Michael Short

There is an article in the New York Times that John Backus, the lead
developer of FORTRAN, has died at the age of 82. Seems like the end of era
of the early developers. It would be interesting to think what computing
would be like today without some of their works.


Re: DB2 Dataunload in z/VM and Load Data in z/OS with Format SQL/DS problem

2007-03-20 Thread Graves Nora E
You might try this:
 
Change it to FB instead of VBS, make it file mode D1.  Look at the
listing from the original unload; use the data for the last column
unloaded to determine the correct file length.
 
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Subject: DB2 Dataunload in z/VM and Load Data in z/OS with Format SQL/DS
problem



Hi! 

Maybe someone has experience in this case and can give some hints. 

We try to do a Dataload in z/OS of a DB2-table that we did a DataUnload
in z/VM. 


In the z/VM I did: 


'PIPE CMS FILEDEF OUTPUT1 DISK KSH4 DATA D4  (RECFM VBS LRECL 236'


Here's the log from the successfull Dataunload: 

1ARI0801I DBS Utility started: 03/16/07 09:49:47. 
  AUTOCOMMIT = OFF ERRORMODE = OFF 
  ISOLATION LEVEL = REPEATABLE READ   
0-- DATAUNLOAD   
 -- SELECT * 
 -- FROM KSH4.BTPOST; 
 -- OUTFILE(OUTPUT1) 
 ARI0852I DATAUNLOAD processing started.   
 ARI0868I DNAME=OUTPUT1 RECFM=U RECSZ=236 BLKSIZE=236 
 ARI0836I Default output record data field positions: 
 ARI0837I FFDAG 5-14   
 ARI0837I FFAR 16-21   
...and so on 

Sending the file to z/OS with FTP 

This is the sysin DD-cards for the job in z/OS: 

* Top of Data * 
LOAD DATA RESUME NO REPLACE LOG NO INDDN SYSREC NOCOPYPEND 
FORMAT SQL/DS   
INTO TABLE KSH4.X99A0300   
 Bottom of Data *** 


This is the result: 

T DSNURWBF - AN INVALID SQL/DS FORMAT RECORD WAS ENCOUNTERED

T DSNURWBF - (RE)LOAD PHASE STATISTICS - NUMBER OF INPUT RECORDS
PROCESSED=1 
NUGBAC - UTILITY DATA BASE SERVICES MEMORY EXECUTION ABENDED,
REASON=X'00E40323' 


The first bytes in the output from the Dataunload looks like this in
Hextype: 

00E6 00E2 F2F0F0F0 60F0F660 F0F24040 
  W S2 0 0 0  - 0 6 -  0 2 


Without Hextype: 

WS2000-06-02 

Maybe this first 4 byte is the problem, any hints? 


Best Regards

Bertil Starck
Handelsbanken
CDTI-S
tel: +46 8 701 22 51
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



John W. Backus, 1924-2007

2007-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
May he r.i.p.

The New York Times has a fine obituary (requires
registration):
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/business/20backus.html?_r=1hpam
p;oref=slogin

DJ


Re: John Backus

2007-03-20 Thread Neale Ferguson
He was also the Backus in Backus-Naur Form (BNF).

On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 11:40 -0400, Michael Short wrote:
 There is an article in the New York Times that John Backus, the lead
 developer of FORTRAN, has died at the age of 82. Seems like the end of
 era of the early developers. It would be interesting to think what
 computing would be like today without some of their works.


Re: Building NonRACF CP Module

2007-03-20 Thread Imler, Steven J
Colin,
 
I don't have experience with RACF, so I'm not sure if it is installed as a 
LOCALMOD to the LOCALMOD disk/directory.
 
If it is, we do this type of thing all the time.  Each test system has its own 
PPF that points to a unique LOCALMOD disk/directory for CP and CMS 
corresponding to how we want that server configured (VM:Secure, ACF2, TSS, 
V/Seg, no V/Seg, etc.).  The rest of the IBM code is all maintained and 
serviced on the primary test system.  Then, as needed, we do a VMFBUILD on the 
other systems that share the system code to incorporate the IBM maintenance ...
 
JR (Steven) Imler
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Senior Software Engineer
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Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
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Subject: Building NonRACF CP Module



We have RACF as our ESM and the RACF hooks are integrated into the CP build as 
per the RACF program directory. 

Occasionally I would like to build an updated Non-RACF CPLOAD MODULE for our 
build/maintenance system and one other small server that don't have an ESM. 

Up to now we have built just one Non-RACF system at the start and just stayed 
with that - not ideal without any service applied. 

Is there an easy way to switch between a RACF and a Non-RACF CP build. 


Colin G Allinson
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Re: Moving on

2007-03-20 Thread Fran Hensler
Peter -
 
Here at Slippery Rock University we have three stubborn people,
including myself, that cling to MailBook.
 
Richard has done a fantastic job with the product.
 
Francis J. Hensler, CCP   Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
Software Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slippery Rock Universityhttp://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh
Computing Services  Voice: +1.724.738.2153
Slippery Rock, PA  16057-1326  USAFAX: +1.724.738.4483
 
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:14:26 -0500 Peter Carrier said:
Hi Richard,

We at MIT wish to thank you for your dedication and support for Mailbook
over the years.  While we're down to only a handful of users, it is still
appreciated

Peter, and the folks at MIT


Re: Building NonRACF CP Module

2007-03-20 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
I have one system with VMSECURE as the ESM,
and one with my own esm (haha).

I use two PPF files, but I wont be in the office till Thursday,
and I don't remember exactly what the differences are.
I seem to remember that I have 'conditional overrides'
in a CNTL file too.

I hope to send a better answer on Thursday. :-)

Shimon



 We have RACF as our ESM and the RACF hooks are integrated into the CP
 build as per the RACF program directory.

 Occasionally I would like to build an updated Non-RACF CPLOAD MODULE for
 our build/maintenance system and one other small server that don't have an 
 ESM.

 Up to now we have built just one Non-RACF system at the start and just
 stayed with that - not ideal without any service applied.

 Is there an easy way to switch between a RACF and a Non-RACF CP build.


 Colin G Allinson
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Re: PAV and VSE guest

2007-03-20 Thread Dave Reinken
OK, I am going to recap here what I am hearing, so that anyone can point
out any flaws.

1) VSE is going to queue the I/O, therefore simply changing everything
from full packs to minidisks and adding PAV is not going to get me
anything.

2) A way to trick VSE into not queuing the I/O would be to take my full
pack, and instead of making it a single minidisk, make it (say) three
minidisks. This would have the effect of causing VSE to not queue I/Os
among those three packs, and allow VM to do its PAV magic. The problem
I see with this is that with our predominently sequential processing,
VSE is still probably going to queue on each of the three minidisks on
the physical volume serially, most likely with the end effect of not
buying me anything.

3) The most promising performance increase, especially for a sequential
read such as ours, would be to convert the full packs to minidisks and
use spare memory (which we do have) to run a decently large
(800MB-1GB?) cache against the minidisks. This should, however, be
measured and reality checked by measuring read/write ratios and
checking cache hits by device, which would lead to turning the cache
off for volumes that are not getting any benefit.

4) PAV and MD cache don't play nice together, therefore since MD cache
may benefit me and PAV likely will not, I should forget PAV for now,
although in the future with system updates it may be something to
revisit.

Thank you for your time so far Eric, Catherine, Kris, Rob, Bill, and
Dietltiens.


Re: PAV and VSE guest

2007-03-20 Thread Daver!
 From: Eric Schadow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ESCON or FICON?

We are currently on ESCON. I think we would consider moving to FICON,
but since we aren't even saturating the ESCON channels yet, it seems
futile. Given this, more likely we will move to FICON when we upgrade
from the 2105.


Re: Building NonRACF CP Module

2007-03-20 Thread William Munson

A long time ago  (1992)

I had an EXEC I wrote that that after running setup
it looked for a cntrl file setup for RACF.
Racf was installed as a LOCAL MOD back then.
'State HCPVM CNTRLIBM * '
If it was there then RACF was on the system
if not then RACF was not on the system (in the nucleus).
there was an option to remove or add RACF to the system
so that the CP Nucleus could be generated with RACF or not.
(technically RACF was always on the system) the remove or add
was a long list of renaming CNTRL, AUX, TXT, and LCL files.
When the CP nucleus was generated it either found RACF or not.
ADP at this time had over 50+ VM systems running with all
kinds of work loads so some had RACF some did not.  And this
was the easiest way to to do it.  Should still work today.


Bill Munson
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President MVMUA
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Colin Allinson wrote:


We have RACF as our ESM and the RACF hooks are integrated into the CP 
build as per the RACF program directory.


Occasionally I would like to build an updated Non-RACF CPLOAD MODULE for 
our build/maintenance system and one other small server that don't have 
an ESM.


Up to now we have built just one Non-RACF system at the start and just 
stayed with that - not ideal without any service applied.


Is there an easy way to switch between a RACF and a Non-RACF CP build.


Colin G Allinson
Technical Manager VM
Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
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F +49 (0) 8122-43 32 60
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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EXECTRAC not inherited

2007-03-20 Thread Ian S. Worthington
I have some execs that call a vendor module that, in turn, invokes other execs
as user exits.

If I set EXECTRAC ON my initial execs are correctly traced.  But the other
execs invoked out of the vendor module are not.

I'm not sure how this later invocation works but I'm guessing that the module
has to setup some sort of environment specification before starting the user
exits, and that that environment does not inherit my setting of EXECTRAC.

Is there anyway I can make it do so?  Or, failing that, is there any easy
change I can request the vendor to make inherit this setting?  Or would it a
major job for them?

Ian
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Re: Building NonRACF CP Module

2007-03-20 Thread Kris Buelens

I too use some PPF overrides to make a CP nucleus a with and one without
RACF.  A piece of cake if you master PPFs.

I don't have the details here.

--
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


SALPL : zone comments

2007-03-20 Thread Alain Benveniste
Hi,

We are able to add 4 lines of comments. 
Blank lines are unused after this zone. Is there a way to take benefit of

them  to extend the zone comments ?

Alain


network response time issues

2007-03-20 Thread Steve Gentry
I'm getting the following message:

TCP/IP level (0520) does not match unknown level of client  xxx

Where  xxx  is the name of a userid on our VM

What module (or whatever) is causing this mismatch?
TCPIP.MODULE?

Thanks,
Steve G.

Re: network response time issues

2007-03-20 Thread Schuh, Richard
Are you implying that you cannot just have the client link to and access
the correct 592 disk in place of the probably old disk that is being
used? If you can do that, the module name is irrelevant. If you know or
suspect that there is a rogue module on some other disk in the search
order, you can try releasing the disks one by one until the client
becomes operational.

Another approach would be to use pipelines to search for matching files.
Something like (untested):

 

'CP LINK TCPIP 592 592 RR'

'ACCESS 592 Z'

'PIPE (end \)',

'\ cms list * * * (noh',

   '| nlocate w3 /Z/',

   '| l: lookup w1.2 details',

   '|  error list a',

'\ cms list * * z (noh',

   '| l:' 

 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 



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That was my first guest, but I need to know what module is causing the
discrepancy. 




 

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Could it be that the client does not have the current TCPIP 592 disk is
the search order? 
  
Regards, 
Richard Schuh 
  

 




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I'm getting the following message: 

TCP/IP level (0520) does not match unknown level of client  xxx 

Where  xxx  is the name of a userid on our VM 

What module (or whatever) is causing this mismatch? 
TCPIP.MODULE? 

Thanks, 
Steve G. 



Re: spoolchn/perfkit

2007-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
Alyce,
the PerfKit has a command for scheduling events to take place at a specif
ic
date and time. The PerfKit CMS help files should get you pointed in the
right direction.

DJ 

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:33:53 -0700, Alyce Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IL
wrote:

Hello,

I am currently using SPOOLCHN and RTM on my z/VM 4.4 system.

I have a userid that gets xautologged by RTM daily to purge
old reader files using SPOOLCHN.

Since RTM doesn't run on z/VM 5.2, which module and/or part of
perfkit would I xautolog to get the same results as RTM?

Thanks in advance for any replies...,

Alyce


Re: spoolchn/perfkit

2007-03-20 Thread Huegel, Thomas
In the perfkit book see... 6.36 FCONTROL SETEVENT this will do what you
want.
The VM books can be found at:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EZ2ZVM00

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Hello,

I am currently using SPOOLCHN and RTM on my z/VM 4.4 system.

I have a userid that gets xautologged by RTM daily to purge
old reader files using SPOOLCHN.

Since RTM doesn't run on z/VM 5.2, which module and/or part of
perfkit would I xautolog to get the same results as RTM?

Thanks in advance for any replies...,

Alyce


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Re: spoolchn/perfkit

2007-03-20 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:08:09PM -0500,Dave Jones Wrote:

} the PerfKit has a command for scheduling events to take place at a specific
} date and time. The PerfKit CMS help files should get you pointed in the
} right direction.

Or just set up the VMUTIL userid (if not already) and use it.

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spoolchn/perfkit

2007-03-20 Thread Alyce Austin
Hello,

I am currently using SPOOLCHN and RTM on my z/VM 4.4 system.

I have a userid that gets xautologged by RTM daily to purge
old reader files using SPOOLCHN.

Since RTM doesn't run on z/VM 5.2, which module and/or part of
perfkit would I xautolog to get the same results as RTM?

Thanks in advance for any replies...,

Alyce


Re: spoolchn/perfkit

2007-03-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I 2nd what Rich says regarding VMUTIL.  I've always called it VMSCHED, 
but it's the same thing as far as I know.  I think that some really 
early code came out with a VMSCHED id running WAKEUP.  WAKEUP is a 
wonderful and versatile piece of code.  I really didn't even know that 
PerfKit had that capability so it may be just as good, but you'd have to 
show me and I'm not even from Missouri.  I have code in the exec that 
runs with WAKEUP in VMSCHED that when I want to make a change to the 
schedule file in VMSCHED, I just grab the current one, make the change 
and SF it back to VMSCHED.  It is enabled to respond to RDR interrupts.  
When it sees a VMSCHED TIMES file in it's RDR from an authorized user 
it reads it in after saving the old TIMES file and takes off with the 
change.  I've also used RTM since about 1979 or 1980 and it is(was-sob  
:'(   ) wonderful, but I never really depended on it for scheduling 
other than closing it's files at the end of a shift.


Jim

Rich Greenberg wrote:

On: Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:08:09PM -0500,Dave Jones Wrote:

} the PerfKit has a command for scheduling events to take place at a specific
} date and time. The PerfKit CMS help files should get you pointed in the
} right direction.

Or just set up the VMUTIL userid (if not already) and use it.

  


Re: Moving on

2007-03-20 Thread Richard A. Schafer
The answer is yes, my socks are always red, even when wearing a tuxedo to
 
my firm's annual black tie dinner for all the attorneys.  My wonderful 

wife has long since given up on trying to change me.  (Do you have any 

idea how hard it is to find dress red socks?)

Richard


On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:49:36 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I passed on Richard's Moving on to another person here at Cornell who
knew Richard at Rice.  This is what she had to say:

I wonder if Richard still wears red socks to work now that he
is a lawyer :)

Vicky

Jim Bohnsack


Re: network response time issues

2007-03-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I have piece of code that I got from someone from CA that is very useful 
iff you are running VMBACKUP.  It uses one of the files that is a 
product of a VMBACKUP run to search thru it's catalog of backed up files 
on all disks it backs up to find rogue code.  Talk to CA (or me offline).

Jim

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Are you implying that you cannot just have the client link to and access
the correct 592 disk in place of the probably old disk that is being
used? If you can do that, the module name is irrelevant. If you know or
suspect that there is a rogue module on some other disk in the search
order, you can try releasing the disks one by one until the client
becomes operational.

Another approach would be to use pipelines to search for matching files.
Something like (untested):   =20

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'CP LINK TCPIP 592 592 RR'

'ACCESS 592 Z'

'PIPE (end \)',

'\ cms list * * * (noh',

   '| nlocate w3 /Z/',

   '| l: lookup w1.2 details',

   '|  error list a',

'\ cms list * * z (noh',

   '| l:'=20

=20

Regards,=20
Richard Schuh=20

=20



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Re: Moving on

2007-03-20 Thread Richard A. Schafer
Jim, tell Vicky to send me her email address.  I know I had it somewhere,
 
but have lost it.  I would love to hear from her again.

Richard


Re: network response time issues

2007-03-20 Thread Marcy Cortes
I've seen that before - is it a vendor package that is the client?  If
so, you may need to contact that vendor.

Marcy Cortes


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Re: network response time issues

2007-03-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/20/2007 at 04:11 AST, Steve Gentry 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm getting the following message: 
 
 TCP/IP level (0520) does not match unknown level of client  xxx 
 
 Where  xxx  is the name of a userid on our VM 
 
 What module (or whatever) is causing this mismatch?
 TCPIP.MODULE? 

It means the client servers are accessing an old version of the client 
disk (TCPIP 592) OR they've copied a module (any module) off of an old 592 
onto their A-disk.  Hint: It's a Pascal program like FTP, NETSTAT, TELNET, 
etc.  (PING and TRACERTE are written in C now.) 

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott