Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system
Hello everyone, I'm new to the list. I've used VMWare on the desktop, and everything I read admonishes you to make sure you have separate licenses for every virtual instance of a Microsoft operating system. The experiment we did was Windows XP Pro with three virtual instances under it, Windows 98 SE, Windows 95, and Windows 3.1, all with full licenses. In those instances where you need to register an OS and you attempted to run a second copy of it, the second registration will fail, and would go into a reduced run mode. This would be true of Windows XP and newer, since they must be registered to continue in full run mode. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shimon Lebowitz Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system Why would the Microsoft Licensing be tricky? Expensive perhaps as you need one license per virtual machine, but not tricky... Is this really true??? One per *virtual*, not *real*, machine? If I were two run two copies of Windows on *one* PC, using e.g. VM-Ware, I would be required to pay twice??? Just wondering, and surprised, Shimon
Re: CPOWNED Devices
Thanks, Kris. That is good news. It saves me the time needed to create a multi-pack test system for the experiment. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CPOWNED Devices I tested this on one of our test machines: nothing gets lost when a DASD is relabeled *and* the label change is applied to SYSTEM CONFIG too. CP does indeed prompts for a FORCE start. SPFPACK confirmed that I had files on the relabeled pack. 13:27:17 The directory on volume VMBRS1 at address F1BC has been brought online. 13:27:17 HCPWRM9200E System recovery failure; configuration error. 13:27:17 HCPASK9205A HCPASK9205A Invalid warm start data encountered. HCPASK9205A No files have been deleted yet. HCPASK9205A To change to a FORCE start, enter FORCE. HCPASK9205A To stop processing, enter STOP. 13:27:35 FORCE 13:27:36 HCPWRS2513I HCPWRS2513I Spool files available 415 13:27:37 HCPWRS2512I Spooling initialization is complete. 13:27:37 DASD F532 dump unit CP IPL pages 6611 13:27:37 HCPAAU2700I System gateway VMKBMB01 identified. 13:27:37 z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, Service Level 0701 (64-bit), 2008/3/28, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Oracle or one of its agents has spoken. Thanks, John. Would marking the disk as draining in the config file prevent the loss of anything caused by the timing of the detection of the difference that you describe? Another question, would backing up only files that are at least partially contained on the disk be sufficient? We are talking about a spool system that normally fluctuates between 7000 and 18000 files, many of them quite large, and we are stuck with old tape technology (3 tapes to contain a DDR of a 3390-03). It would be my luck that it would be the higher number when my scheduled time arrived so that backing up the entire spool would take quite a bit of time. I envision a process like this: Before IPL (all can be done while the system is running) 1. DRAIN the disk, including update of SYSTEM CONFIG to indicate that it was to be drained or draining at IPL. 2. Use SPFACK to identify files that have at least 1 block on the pack. 3. PURGE unnecessary files. 4. Use SPXTAPE DUMP/LOAD to move the remaining files to the other spool volumes. 5. Reliable the pack. 6. Update the system config with the new volser. The pack would be left in the draining state. After IPL 1. FORCE start. 2. Update system config so that the disk is no longer draining. 3 Start the device. Would that be safe enough? If so, it would minimize the down time, which is a major consideration. I would also schedule the IPL to coincide with already scheduled activities that require the system to be down. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Franciscovich Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CPOWNED Devices I've renamed spool volumes several times, four or more years ago, but a force start was required. I don't recall whether it was VM/ESA or z/VM. I would recommend a spool backup before attempting it. And if it is for a production system, then schedule enough time to reload spool, if necessary. A FORCE start will be required since the new CP_Owned list does not match the CP_Owned list that was saved in the checkpoint area when you shut down your system. The spool files are restored from the warmstart area during IPL, so they should be ok. You do risk losing information that was saved in the checkpoint area that hasn't been processed by the time the difference in the CP_Owned list is detected. In any event, I agree that a spool file backup is a good idea before attempting this change. John Franciscovich z/VM Development -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
When I started on our DR process, I just did full-volume dumps which included the SFS servers. At the DR site, things came up fine for about 5 DR exercises. Then SFS died. We had grown enough that the activity was re al during the full-volume backup. When I discussed possibilities with IBM, i t became clear that ANY external backup of SFS, while the SFS was running, had the potential to die after restore. So I changed our process to use SFS utilities to backup the content and full-volume backup of the 191 and 192 disks which are used as straight CMS disks. All of the 3xx disks (ones really used by SFS via *BLOCKIO) were migrated to volumes that are NOT pa rt of the full volume backups. At the DR site, I allocate (label and attach to system) these volumes and autolog the SFS servers. Each server has code i n the profile to detect the presence of a valid SFS data disk. If the data disk is okay then it starts normal (back home type of startup). If the di sk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first IPL at DR and the profile runs a FILESERV GENERATE. When that is finished, I can use the FILEPOOL RELOAD to load the content back into the SFS server. So either stop your SFS servers for the full volume backup or unload the sfs data and reload into new SFS servers at the DR site. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:03:22 +0100, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] m wrote: I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is t he function that we need rather than any particular data. I did this as full pack dumps and expected a few issues on the restart after the restore (changing spool files etc.). I did expect to have some SFS server issues with active files. What has happened is that most SFS servers start OK but the most active one just dumps on startup. Is there any way to do a verification/clean process so that I can get it started with whatever is valid - or do I have to take another complete dump with our production system down. I would welcome any suggestions. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
If you are going to use full pack restores, you need to take the SFS servers down before you back them up. You really do need a logical copy of the entire file pool server so that the catalogs correspond to the data. We had some issues, not from this, but with a corrupted catalog block, when we migrated the datacenter. It took sending DDR dumps of the catalog to the support center so that THE ONLY expert in SFS could create zaps that would allow us to dump the file pool to tape (it had been crashing CP when we tried to back it up), reformat the catalog disks and then restore all the data that was left. The zaps merely removed the offending catalog entries. The files whose entries were removed were lost in the process. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is the function that we need rather than any particular data. I did this as full pack dumps and expected a few issues on the restart after the restore (changing spool files etc.). I did expect to have some SFS server issues with active files. What has happened is that most SFS servers start OK but the most active one just dumps on startup. Is there any way to do a verification/clean process so that I can get it started with whatever is valid - or do I have to take another complete dump with our production system down. I would welcome any suggestions. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
If the di sk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first IPL at DR and the profile runs a FILESERV GENERATE. When that is finished, I can use the FILEPOOL RELOAD to load the content back into the SFS server. Hmm. FILEPOOL DUMP and FILEPOOL RELOAD are another set of CMS commands that need a stream option to redirect their output to a pipe. Requirement time...
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
If you have flashcopy, you don't really have to take them down. If you can snap all the volumes in the same instant, then, from the SFS perspective, after the restore, you are coming up after a crash. But, if you don't have flash copy available, then either you must quiese the volumes for a physical backup or do a logical backup (which stops the update activity on a pool when that pool is backup) and rebuild SFS using the physical volume backups (for the containers) and the logical backup, to restore the data. If it is a matter of just needed SFS available, and you don't care about the data, mirror your setup on a second level system and back that one up for disaster recovery purposes. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Obstruction A cat must lay on the floor in such a position to obstruct the maximum amount of human foot traffic. Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/28/2008 10:37 AM If you are going to use full pack restores, you need to take the SFS servers down before you back them up. You really do need a logical copy of the entire file pool server so that the catalogs correspond to the data. We had some issues, not from this, but with a corrupted catalog block, when we migrated the datacenter. It took sending DDR dumps of the catalog to the support center so that THE ONLY expert in SFS could create zaps that would allow us to dump the file pool to tape (it had been crashing CP when we tried to back it up), reformat the catalog disks and then restore all the data that was left. The zaps merely removed the offending catalog entries. The files whose entries were removed were lost in the process. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is the function that we need rather than any particular data. I did this as full pack dumps and expected a few issues on the restart after the restore (changing spool files etc.). I did expect to have some SFS server issues with active files. What has happened is that most SFS servers start OK but the most active one just dumps on startup. Is there any way to do a verification/clean process so that I can get it started with whatever is valid - or do I have to take another complete dump with our production system down. I would welcome any suggestions. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
It would be nice to feed the unload into a pipe but at least it is standa rd OS simulation so I can point it at a disk file or a tape file. For the ta pe file, I have already proven that it can be encrypted to protect all the private dat in the backup. Because our CMS workload is shrinking, our production SFS servers can now be backed up to other DASD allocations jus t prior to the full volume backups. The SFS outage is now down to 5 minutes . /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:45:13 -0400, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] w rote: If the disk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first IPL at DR and the profile runs a FILESERV GENERATE. When that is finished, I can use the FILEPOOL RELOAD to load the content back into the SFS serv er. Hmm. FILEPOOL DUMP and FILEPOOL RELOAD are another set of CMS commands that need a stream option to redirect their output to a pipe. Requirement time... = ===
Re: CPOWNED Devices
Would marking the disk as draining in the config file prevent the loss of anything caused by the timing of the detection of the difference that you describe? Another question, would backing up only files that are at least partially contained on the disk be sufficient? We are talking about a spool system that normally fluctuates between 7000 and 18000 files, many of them quite large, and we are stuck with old tape technology (3 tapes to contain a DDR of a 3390-03). It would be my luck that it would be the higher number when my scheduled time arrived so that backing up the entire spool would take quite a bit of time. Marking the disk as draining is a good idea if you are going to backup files that are on it, so new spool data isn't written to it while you are doing the backup. It will have no impact on the requirement for a FORCE start or any data in the checkpoint area that might not be restored as a result. The data in the checkpoint area is not related to the spool files. I ran the same tests that Kris did and you *should not* lose any spool file data as a result of the re-label of the volume. I recommended doing a backup as a precaution, as I would for any change like this, but if everything works as expected, you should not need to restore anything. Whether you actually do a backup and how much of the spool you backup is entirely up to you. John Franciscovich z/VM Development
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
I opened a SHARE requirement about this. DFSMS RMS requires stuff in SFS. To get a valid backup you must either have some software that understands the SFS or have the SFS down. But you can' t have the SFS down or you can't mount a tape if they are in an ATL. But you'd like to have RMS available as soon as you restore your full pack so that you can use that special SW you purchased to restore your SFS! So, you really have to do a fileserve generate and then copy in enough of your DFSMS configs that hopefully you've kept elsewhere on minidisk in order to get your ATL to work. In reality, what we do is *hope* that the physcial backup while it is up is ok. We keep nothing but dfsms in there (in the VMS* filepools) in hopes that since it is static, no issues will arise. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is the function that we need rather than any particular data. I did this as full pack dumps and expected a few issues on the restart after the restore (changing spool files etc.). I did expect to have some SFS server issues with active files. What has happened is that most SFS servers start OK but the most active one just dumps on startup. Is there any way to do a verification/clean process so that I can get it started with whatever is valid - or do I have to take another complete dump with our production system down. I would welcome any suggestions. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
On the one system where I do have an ATL and therefore RMSMASTR, I have a lso kept real data out of the VMS* filepools. They are quite small so it is e asy and quick to force RMSMASTR, do the FILEPOOL UNLOAD to CMS disk files an d bring RMSMASTR back up in order to mount the tapes for the largest SFS an d the full volume backups. Or even mount your backup tape, bring down RMSMASTR, backup the VMS* filepools to that tape, then bring RMSMASTR bac k up. But the key is that NOTHING else is in the VMS* filepools. This would be so much easier if RMSMASTR's configuration files and logs were allowed to be on real CMS minidisks. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:31:58 -0500, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opened a SHARE requirement about this. DFSMS RMS requires stuff in SFS. To get a valid backup you must either have some software that understands the SFS or have the SFS down. But you can' t have the SFS down or you can't mount a tape if they are in an ATL. But you'd like to have RMS available as soon as you restore your full pack so that you can use that special SW you purchased to restore your SFS! So, you really have to do a fileserve generate and then copy in enough of your DFSMS configs that hopefully you've kept elsewhere on minidisk in order to get your ATL to work. In reality, what we do is *hope* that the physcial backup while it is up is ok. We keep nothing but dfsms in there (in the VMS* filepools) in hopes that since it is static, no issues will arise. Marcy Cortes
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
This would be so much easier if RMSMASTR's configuration files and logs were allowed to be on real CMS minidisks. Exactly! And there are plenty of VM newbies around here these days who shouldn't have to understand all the care and feeding of SFS in order to backup and restore their systems or to configure their tape libraries for that matter. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
Well, since the SFS FILEPOOL commands require a FIELDEF of BACKUP be defined, one could use the CMS auxiliary processor exit to intercept the i/o from CMS and route that into a pipe.it's just a SMOP... David Boyes wrote: If the di sk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first IPL at DR and the profile runs a FILESERV GENERATE. When that is finished, I can use the FILEPOOL RELOAD to load the content back into the SFS server. Hmm. FILEPOOL DUMP and FILEPOOL RELOAD are another set of CMS commands that need a stream option to redirect their output to a pipe. Requirement time... -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
I was thinking that the CMS AUXPROC facility would be a good place to ins ert a good data encryption product. /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:26:21 -0500, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since the SFS FILEPOOL commands require a FIELDEF of BACKUP be defined, one could use the CMS auxiliary processor exit to intercept the i/o from CMS and route that into a pipe.it's just a SMOP... -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
{SPAM?} RSCS
Can someone please tell me whether the RSCS feature of the current z/VMs carries a separate monthly fee as well as the OTC? If so, is it the same as for the RSCS V3 R2.0, or is it structured differently? Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
That's essentially our procedure as well. But we are likely a small minority with our own DR sites with VM systems already in them :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] DR refresh of active SFS We also keep nothing but the DFSMS config files in the VMSYS filepool. The volume it's on is backed up by a VM:Backup physical (DDR-like) backup. We haven't had any problems restoring the filepool. We are fortunate in that we have a VM system with DFSMS at the DR site. If we had to rebuild the filepool and reinstall the DFSMS config files on the lost production system, we could. Dennis O'Brien No government deprives its citizens of rights without asserting that its actions are reasonable and necessary for high-sounding reasons such as public safety. A right that can be regulated is no right at all, only a temporary privilege dependent upon the good will of the very government officials that such right is designed to constrain. -- Herbert W. Titus and William J. Olson, attorneys for GOA
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
DFSMS RMS requires a filepool named VMSYS: and does write to its SFS Work_directory This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS If DFSMS uses the SFS for read/only activity. I would be tempted to give it its own small filepool and DDR DUMP it once. There would be no need to go to the pain of first creating a new filepool into which I could then do a FILEPOOL RELOAD. Even if there is R/W activity in the filepool, it would not take much time to redo the DDR as part of the periodic backup process. DFSMS would have to be paused for only a very short time. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS Thomas and Marcy, I agree 100%. As Marcy said there are plenty of VM newbies around here these days who shouldn't have to understand all the care and feeding of SFS in order to backup and restore their systems or to configure their tape libraries for that matter. I minimize? the pain of DFSMS RMS requires stuff in SFS by putting the DFSMS filespace and its SFS Work_directory into 2 small storage groups (3 and 4) in VMSYS instead of into VMSYS:'s main, default storage storage group 2. That way I can FILEPOOL UNLOAD and FILEPOOL RELOAD these DFSMS-RMS storage groups independently of the main storage group 2. At DR-time I can restore them with FILEPOOL RELOAD before the main VMSYS: storage group(s) have been restored from backups that need RMS-mounted tapes. Minimizes the chicken-egg problem for me. q filepool stor vmsys VMSYSFile Pool Storage Groups Start-up Date 08/20/07 Query Date 03/28/08 Start-up Time 11:50:57 Query Time 13:56:14 == == STORAGE GROUP INFORMATION Storage4K Blocks 4K Blocks Group No.In-Use Free 1 5023 - 56% 3960 2263300 - 74% 90332 310 - 2%522 4 0 - 0% 2149 == == This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS On the one system where I do have an ATL and therefore RMSMASTR, I have also kept real data out of the VMS* filepools. They are quite small so it is easy and quick to force RMSMASTR, do the FILEPOOL UNLOAD to CMS disk files and bring RMSMASTR back up in order to mount the tapes for the largest SFS and the full volume backups. Or even mount your backup tape, bring down RMSMASTR, backup the VMS* filepools to that tape, then bring RMSMASTR back up. But the key is that NOTHING else is in the VMS* filepools. This would be so much easier if RMSMASTR's configuration files and logs were allowed to be on real CMS minidisks. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:31:58 -0500, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opened a SHARE requirement about this. DFSMS RMS requires stuff in
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
And he wants to put his logs in VMSYSU:DFSMS.LOGS where the system administrator can delete them when the filepool fills up, instead of RMSMASTR doing something like managing its own rotation of logfiles in whatever preset size minidisk the system administrator defined for him, b ut that is something too archaic, it is almost like PROP. /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:38:53 -0400, Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DFSMS RMS requires a filepool named VMSYS: and does write to its SFS Work_directory
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
Good point. If you RM_LOG_TO_FILE instead of _TO_CONSOLE then the logfile directory can be (and is recommended to be)in a separate SFS storage group. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS And he wants to put his logs in VMSYSU:DFSMS.LOGS where the system administrator can delete them when the filepool fills up, instead of RMSMASTR doing something like managing its own rotation of logfiles in whatever preset size minidisk the system administrator defined for him, but that is something too archaic, it is almost like PROP. /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:38:53 -0400, Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DFSMS RMS requires a filepool named VMSYS: and does write to its SFS Work_directory
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
Is there not an installation option to change the filepool name? If not, there should be. If you are referring to the filepool and directory the RMS control and configuration files must reside on, yes you can move them by creating a UCOMDIR NAMES file on the RMSMASTR 191 minidisk, for example: :nick.VMSYS:tpn.MYPOOL Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
Can you do the same for the filepool that RMSMASTR wants his work and log directories in? Like this: UCOMDIR NAMES :nick.VMSYS :tpn.IBMSFS :nick.VMSYSU :tpn.IBMSFS /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:15:26 -0400, Les Geer (607-429-3580) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there not an installation option to change the filepool name? If not , there should be. If you are referring to the filepool and directory the RMS control and configuration files must reside on, yes you can move them by creating a UCOMDIR NAMES file on the RMSMASTR 191 minidisk, for example: :nick.VMSYS:tpn.MYPOOL Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: DR refresh of active SFS
Can you do the same for the filepool that RMSMASTR wants his work and log= directories in? Like this: UCOMDIR NAMES :nick.VMSYS :tpn.IBMSFS :nick.VMSYSU :tpn.IBMSFS You can change the location of the work directories by updating the RMSMASTR configuration file. No need for this UCOMDIR NAMES trick. Only the configuration files are forced to the VMSYS:DFSMS. directory. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
cp set share badguy absolute 0.1% limithard Almost zero... but that's as close as you can get! Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
How about send cp userid cpu all stop? A Begin command is required for it to resume. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
I think with SET SHARE, a guest will always receive some time, although it won't be much. If you really want to stop them, put them into a CP READ state. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: March 28, 2008 16:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
Lionel, SET SHARE userid RELATIVE 1 LIMITHARD should take it down as low as it can go. If you want no service at all, CP SEND CP userid SLEEP 99 HRS should do it. I take it you don't want to just FORCE the userid? Dennis O'Brien A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill. -- Robert A. Heinlein From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 13:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
The cpu all stop will do as it says and stop it in its tracks. It needs to have a secuser if it is disconnected and you have not disabled the 15 minute timeout. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Lionel, SET SHARE userid RELATIVE 1 LIMITHARD should take it down as low as it can go. If you want no service at all, CP SEND CP userid SLEEP 99 HRS should do it. I take it you don't want to just FORCE the userid? Dennis O'Brien A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill. -- Robert A. Heinlein From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 13:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] set share to stop a guest from getting service ? Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor? Thx Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better. I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.
Re: MONWRITE files
FYI, I found that MONVIEW output has the wrong date beginning 2/29/08.
I updated MDATTRAN REXX replacing the call to CONVERT_TOD with a CALLPIPE
using DATECONV. I let IBM know, so maybe someone will put an update on
the downloads page soon.
MDATTRAN SREXXJ1 V 80 Trunc=80 Size=133 Line=35 Col=1 Alt=
0
===
|...+1+2+3+4+5+6..
0035 mytod = C2X(SUBSTR(monrec, 9, 8))/* 20080320 */
0036 'CALLPIPE STRLITERAL x'mytod , /* 20080320 */
0037 '| DATECONV TODABS FULLDATE TIMEOUT' ,/* 20080320 */
0038 '| VAR MYTODCONV' /* 20080320 */
0039
0040xrecdata = SUBSTR(monrec, 21, X2D(rlength) - 20)
0041
0042/* Check for D1/R4 which contains the timezone offset */
0043IF (domain = 01) (record = 0004) THEN DO
0044 IF tz_secs = 0 THEN skip = 1
0045 syszone = SUBSTR(xrecdata,61,4)
0046 /* determine if negative or positive tz offset */
0047 IF LEFT(syszone,1) = x2c(FF) THEN DO /* negative */
0048 tz_secs = x2d('') - c2d(syszone) + 1
0049 tz_secs = tz_secs * (-1)
0050END
0051ELSE tz_secs = c2d(syszone) /* positive */
0052 END
0053
0054 /* CALL CONVERT_TOD(XTOD tz_secs) *//* 20080320 */
0055 /* MONVIEW TOD: 20080320 00:07:00.670057000 *//* 20080320 */
0056 /* MYTODCONV: 03/19/2008 00:07:00.670057 *//* 20080320 */
0057 parse var mytodconv mm '/' dd '/' time/* 20080320 */
0058 convtime = || mm || dd left(time,18,'0') /* 20080320 */
Hal Schmitigal
VM Systems Management, Nortel Account
perotsystems
Re: MONWRITE files
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Hal Schmitigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated MDATTRAN REXX replacing the call to CONVERT_TOD with a CALLPIPE using DATECONV. I let IBM know, so maybe someone will put an update on the downloads page soon. There's a lot more to win with recent plumbing. I think mine runs 2 orders of magnitude faster with pure pipes... Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software GmbH http://velocitysoftware.com/
Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?
If you're running Performance Tool Kit, you can use the PERFSVM monitor machine to control looping users. I have PERFSVM set up to do a CP SET SHARE ABSOLUTE 1% on all users (except for users that can legitimately look like looping users) . Mine is set up to look for users that exceed x% cpu utilization for y minutes. You can control how minutes and how high a level of cpu. Jim Schuh, Richard wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01C89115.A6AC1BB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The cpu all stop will do as it says and stop it in its tracks. It needs to have a secuser if it is disconnected and you have not disabled the 15 minute timeout. Regards,=20 Richard Schuh=20 =20 =20 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ? =09 =09 Lionel, SET SHARE userid RELATIVE 1 LIMITHARD should take it down as low as it can go. If you want no service at all, CP SEND CP userid SLEEP 99 HRS should do it. I take it you don't want to just FORCE the userid?=20 Dennis O'Brien =09 A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill. -- Robert A. Heinlein =09 =20 =20 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 13:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] set share to stop a guest from getting service ? =09 =09 Is there a way to set a z/VM guest that is misbehaving into a state where it gets no service such as a SET SHARE of some flavor?=20 =09 Thx =09 =09 Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist=20 Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering=20 KP-IT Enterprise Engineering=20 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =20 AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck=20 Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We're here to make lives better.=20 =09 I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.=20 - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle=20 =09 NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you.=20 --_=_NextPart_001_01C89115.A6AC1BB9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii META content=3DMSHTML 6.00.2900.3243 name=3DGENERATOR/HEAD BODY DIV dir=3Dltr align=3DleftSPAN class=3D674004920-28032008FONT = color=3D#ff=20 size=3D2The cpu all stop will do as it says and stop it in its tracks. = It needs=20 to have a secuser if it is disconnected and you have not disabled=20 thenbsp;/FONT/SPANSPAN class=3D674004920-28032008FONT = color=3D#ff=20 size=3D215 minute timeout./FONT/SPAN/DIV DIV class=3DSection1 PSPAN style=3DFONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: ArialRegards, = BRRichard Schuh=20 ?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office=20 /o:p/o:p/SPAN/P PSPAN=20 style=3DFONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arialo:pnbsp;/o:p/SPAN/P/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIVBR BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3DPADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft HR tabIndex=3D-1 FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2BFrom:/B The IBM z/VM Operating = System=20 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BOn Behalf Of /BO'Brien, Dennis=20 LBRBSent:/B Friday, March 28, 2008 1:48 PMBRBTo:/B=20 IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUBRBSubject:/B Re: set share to stop a = guest from=20 getting service ?BR/FONTBR/DIV DIV/DIV DIV dir=3Dltr align=3DleftSPAN class=3D027014320-28032008FONT = face=3DArial=20 color=3D#ff size=3D2Lionel,/FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=3D027014320-28032008FONT face=3DArial = color=3D#ff size=3D2SET=20 SHARE userid RELATIVE 1 LIMITHARDnbsp;shouldnbsp;take it=20 downnbsp;asnbsp;lownbsp;as it can go.nbsp; If you want no service = at all,=20 CP SEND CP userid SLEEP 99 HRS should do it.nbsp; I take it you don't = want to=20 just FORCE the
Seeking oportunities
My first attempt to copy the email to VSE-L to IBMVM-L failed because I had the IBMVM-L address incorrect. I am looking for help in finding a new situation in VM and/or VSE system programming, software development, or other such positions, either full-time permanent or contractual posititions. Please contact me directly at my new email address of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have or know of any possible or pending possible positions (either full time or contract positions). Thanks and best regards to all. Sorry that I won't probably be seeing you all at WAVV this year. - Don Hooker (603) 267-1947
Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:04 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I remember hearing that's how it worked here for Windows and RedHat Linux too. Not sure about SuSE Linux since we don't run that on Intel. SLES on Intel is licensed per box. As many Xen/VMWare guests as you care to create are covered. Mark Post
Re: Seeking oportunities
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.net, Don Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I am looking for help in finding a new situation in VM and/or VSE system programming, software development, or other such positions, either full-time permanent or contractual posititions. I don't know how many people actually go looking there, but Velocity Software has two pages on their web site listing people wanted and jobs wanted. You might send a request to them to add you to the jobs wanted page. Mark Post
Re: Seeking oportunities
Of couse look at DICE.Com , monster.com and Careerbilder.com as that is where I have been finding contracts for the last 9 or so years... Julian Wall Mark Post wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.net, Don Hooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I am looking for help in finding a new situation in VM and/or VSE system programming, software development, or other such positions, either full-time permanent or contractual posititions. I don't know how many people actually go looking there, but Velocity Software has two pages on their web site listing "people wanted" and "jobs wanted." You might send a request to them to add you to the "jobs wanted" page. Mark Post
