NJE TCP resets

2008-09-09 Thread Tony Thigpen
Every so often (once a day to once a month), we have NJE disconnects and 
reconnects. We have done packet traces and don't see any reason it 
should be disconnecting.


From the RSCS console:
20:57:50 Socket error on link BSIVSE27 request=Recv
20:57:50 return code=- 1 error number=53 (Software caused connection abort)
20:57:50 Link BSIVSE27 session terminated
20:57:50 Link BSIVSE27 deactivated

About a minute before the reset, we see a keep-alive and a valid response.

The link auto-reconnects right away.

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Re: Partially Successful: OpenVMS on System z

2008-09-09 Thread David Boyes
> I didn't know that OpenVMS could run on Intel Itaniums, but
> it sounds way cool.

Yes. It's a relatively recent development (and about 20 years too late
-- we could have been spared Windows entirely if DEC had bought a clue
way back when...*sigh*), but it's actually fueling a renaissance in VMS
usage. VMS is a nice, tight, secure, easy to manage system, with decent
batch and tape processing capabilities, and excellent compilers and
compatibility with the IBM extensions for COBOL, a decent CICS
replacement, etc, etc. It's a terrific replacement for small VSE and
z/OS shops who can't get an affordable z system these days. HP doesn't
seem to have such a huge problem with hobbyist use, either. 

Now if someone would port REXX to VMS instead of DCL... hmm. Now that's
a useful thought. 

> What's next, Mac under z/VM? :-)

TOPS-20, of course. If I say "fiat lux", then I expect the OS to turn
the lights on reliably, with a proper Emacs for editing the universe's
config files. Galaxy on Z -- it's about time we got a decent batch
system for Z. 
*grin* 8-) 

Actually, if this emulation approach we're using for the Alpha works out
as it appears to be doing, PPC operating systems like AIX and i5OS would
be a logical next step. Licensing for Mac OSX Server would probably just
be a RPITA to get, even if I could get proper emulation working.


Re: What's on Maint's 402

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Payne
I feel shortchanged, my z/VM 5.2 only has 14,725 :)


... snip

My z/VM 5.2 system has 14,766 help files on MAINT 402.


Re: Partially Successful: OpenVMS on System z

2008-09-09 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:24:01 -0400 David Boyes said:
>> I didn't know that OpenVMS could run on Intel Itaniums, but
>> it sounds way cool.
>Yes. It's a relatively recent development (and about 20 years too late
>-- we could have been spared Windows entirely if DEC had bought a clue
>way back when...*sigh*), but it's actually fueling a renaissance in VMS
>usage. VMS is a nice, tight, secure, easy to manage system, with decent
>batch and tape processing capabilities, and excellent compilers and
>compatibility with the IBM extensions for COBOL, a decent CICS
>replacement, etc, etc. It's a terrific replacement for small VSE and
>z/OS shops who can't get an affordable z system these days. HP doesn't
>seem to have such a huge problem with hobbyist use, either.
>Now if someone would port REXX to VMS instead of DCL... hmm. Now that's
>a useful thought.

Regina doesn't have a specific OpenVMS download, but it does claim
support

http://regina-rexx.sourceforge.net/index.html

and the 3.4 change log (from Dec 2007) has

- Better VMS support courtesy of Bernard Giroud

The 3.0 change log has this entry as part of its restrictions for
strict ANSI mode:

BIFS not allowed: All VMS F$ functions




/ahw


Re: What's on Maint's 402

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Walter
Try scanning all the "* $PPF" files on MAINT's disks, you'll see that the 
0402 disk is listed as the VMSES/E "UCENG help disk".

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NJE TCP resets

2008-09-09 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>Every so often (once a day to once a month), we have NJE disconnects and
>reconnects. We have done packet traces and don't see any reason it
>should be disconnecting.
>
> From the RSCS console:
>20:57:50 Socket error on link BSIVSE27 request=Recv
>20:57:50 return code=- 1 error number=53 (Software caused connection abort)
>20:57:50 Link BSIVSE27 session terminated
>20:57:50 Link BSIVSE27 deactivated
>
>About a minute before the reset, we see a keep-alive and a valid response.
>
>The link auto-reconnects right away.
>

What happens on the other side of the link when this failure occurs?
I have seen this one other time, not remembering exactly the problem.
We had to trace within the stack to see what was happening.  I believe
it was MTU packet size related.


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Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


Bus and Tag Cable Colors and Speeds

2008-09-09 Thread David L. Craig
I can't believe it, but I cannot find via Google
or the archives or inside www.ibm.com an explanation
of the speeds and color codes of parallel channel
cables.  I think gray is 3.0 MBps and blue is 4.5,
but I've no idea what speed the beige|tan|brown
ones are.

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Re: What's on Maint's 402

2008-09-09 Thread Mike Walter
Sorry about that very late post.  It was sent at 5:37 PM on Sept 8.  I 
have no idea what delayed it.
But now you have another idea on how to check for what's on what on MAINT.

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Re: Bus and Tag Cable Colors and Speeds

2008-09-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I remember that the "new blue" B&T cables were the faster.  I don't 
remember any others than gray altho I seem to remember seeing beige or 
tan or whatever.  I suspect that beige|tan|brown are the same as gray 
but I don't know.  At any rate, stick with blue and remember "gray away".


Jim

David L. Craig wrote:

I can't believe it, but I cannot find via Google
or the archives or inside www.ibm.com an explanation
of the speeds and color codes of parallel channel
cables.  I think gray is 3.0 MBps and blue is 4.5,
but I've no idea what speed the beige|tan|brown
ones are.

  


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Full volume minidisk FTP

2008-09-09 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Using VMFTP, how is the best way to transmit full volume minidisks (mixed
CMS, VSE, and z/OS) to a backup site?

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Gary Dennis



Re: Full volume minidisk FTP

2008-09-09 Thread Bruce Hayden
Get the PIPEDDR package off of the VM download site and use the FTP
option to dump or restore the disk to or from a file on an FTP server.
 Or, you can get the DRPC package from the same place and use DDR to
do this, but you'll have to write your own Rexx exec to manage all the
details.

Information on PIPEDDR can be found at
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?pipeddr

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> Using VMFTP, how is the best way to transmit full volume minidisks (mixed
> CMS, VSE, and z/OS) to a backup site?
>
> --.  .-  .-.  -.--
>
> Gary Dennis
>



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Re: Full volume minidisk FTP

2008-09-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
About 3 weeks ago there was a discussion on this list with a subject of  
"DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location".  If you look in the archives at 
http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html you should be able to find 
the discussion or thread. 


Jim

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Re: Full volume minidisk FTP

2008-09-09 Thread David Boyes
Use the recently posted DDR and FTPPUT pipe stages. *Much* simpler for
batchable tasks like that. 

 



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Re: Partially Successful: OpenVMS on System z

2008-09-09 Thread dave
- Original Message -
From: David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Partially Successful: OpenVMS on System z
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:24:01 -0400

> > I didn't know that OpenVMS could run on Intel Itaniums,
> > but it sounds way cool.
> 
> Yes. It's a relatively recent development (and about 20
> years too late -- we could have been spared Windows
> entirely if DEC had bought a clue way back when...*sigh*),
> but it's actually fueling a renaissance in VMS usage. VMS
> is a nice, tight, secure, easy to manage system, with
> decent batch and tape processing capabilities, and
> excellent compilers and compatibility with the IBM
> extensions for COBOL, a decent CICS replacement, etc, etc.
> It's a terrific replacement for small VSE and z/OS shops
> who can't get an affordable z system these days. HP
> doesn't seem to have such a huge problem with hobbyist use
> , either. 
> 

So this is a port of OpenVMS itself, and not some other VMS
emulator, right?
The oil/gas business went nuts over the DEC VAX boxes,
running VMS, for number crunch seismic applications, and
I've used it beforevery nice interactive system. The
editor would automatically create versions of files as you
made revisions. so going back to a previous version was very
simple. I never saw anything that could come close to that
until I got to use Xedit with Update.

The other thing about VMS was the quality of the DEC
supplied compilers. Fortran was very common, of course, but
DEC also put out an excellent, full featured PL/I one as
well. And all compiled languages used the same calling
conventions and common run time library, so writing apps
using different languages was a snap. Somewhere around here
I still have the complete set of DEC VMS PL/I documentation.

> Now if someone would port REXX to VMS instead of DCL...
> hmm. Now that's a useful thought. 
> 
That would certainly mark an improvement over DCL, which I
though was a bit too difficult to use.

DJ
> > What's next, Mac under z/VM? :-)
> 
> TOPS-20, of course. If I say "fiat lux", then I expect the
> OS to turn the lights on reliably, with a proper Emacs for
> editing the universe's config files. Galaxy on Z -- it's
> about time we got a decent batch system for Z. 
> *grin* 8-) 
> 
> Actually, if this emulation approach we're using for the
> Alpha works out as it appears to be doing, PPC operating
> systems like AIX and i5OS would be a logical next step.
> Licensing for Mac OSX Server would probably just be a
> RPITA to get, even if I could get proper emulation
> working.


Re: Full volume minidisk FTP

2008-09-09 Thread Hans Rempel
Is there an encryption stage that can be used to encrypt the data?

 

Hans

 

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Re: NJE TCP resets

2008-09-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 09/09/2008 at 12:56 EDT, "Les Geer (607-429-3580)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What happens on the other side of the link when this failure occurs?
> I have seen this one other time, not remembering exactly the problem.
> We had to trace within the stack to see what was happening.  I believe
> it was MTU packet size related.

The most likely causes of ECONNABORTED are, in order:
1. the lack of OVERRIDEprecedence in the AssortedParms
2. the stack was recycled
3. NETSTAT DROP

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IBM Endicott


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