Re: Ethernet vswitch definition

2009-01-12 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
Thanks for the replies, Alan  David. I appreciate it.

My networking group is pretty flexible and asked me what *I* wanted, for
the most part. Nice to have that option.  :)

Dave 

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Subject: Re: Ethernet vswitch definition

On Thursday, 01/08/2009 at 06:09 EST, KEETON Dave * SDC
dave.kee...@state.or.us wrote:

 Scenario: If you had an environment that consisted of Administration, 
 Production networks and you wanted a guest to participate in both, 
 wouldn't you just create two VLAN memberships to eth0 (ala vconfig)? 
 Or would it be prudent to create a separate VSWITCH for Administration

 and Production and use eth0 and eth1 nics (using the PORTTYPE ACCESS 
 method)?

This will be driven by your Networking folks.  If they would normally
configure a trunk port for a distributed system, then it's ok for a
guest. 
 If not, no.  From a z/VM security point of view, it's the same, though
the increased complexity of trunk ports can trigger a failure in the
human 
element of the equation.   As David says, this may make the Network Gods

nervous.

Trunk v. Access:  Sometimes the 'obvious' solution is the 'wrong' (or
unworkable) solution.  For instance, most sites will not mix Internet
and Intranet traffic on the same physical switch.  Ergo you cannot use a
trunk port to carry both.  Or they will not carry traffic in different
security domains, as represented by a VLAN, on the same wire, so again,
a trunk won't help.

While on one level it may seem silly, being largely based on history and
Everyone Knows kinds of things, ranking right up there with telnet is
not secure.  On the other hand, using separate switches to carry
Internet traffic can be a wise thing for other reasons, including ease
of physical audit (put red tape on it and allowo only red ethernet
cables) and the ability to just turn it off in an emergency without
affecting your ability to access the systems internally.  Don't fight
with your networking people about this stuff - it's their territory and
their responsibility, not yours.  If you need to buy additional OSAs,
for example, then just say so and TPTB will decide whether the expense
is worth the risk.  (Hint: 
Network folks almost always get their way on this soft of stuff.  It's
ok. 
 Breathe in.  Breathe out.  In.  Out.)

It goes without saying, but it must be said, that involving network AND
security people *early* in the design is far better (for you) than
surprising them at the 11th hour.  Talk about cranky

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Filezilla FTP client and the DIR command

2009-01-12 Thread Hans Rempel
I'm having problems getting Filezilla from displaying the directory of my
files on the screen. I reviewed the list for past posts and have changed my
LISTFormat to UNIX without success. 

 

Filezilla does make a SSL connect to my system but the directory display is
failing at this point.

 

What am I missing?

 

Secondly is there a windows batch FTP with SSL support to replace the
current CMD FTP command?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Hans 



LOGO CONFIG

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I thought that I had, in the past, been able to make a change to LOGO 
CONFIG and have CP pick up the change without an IPL.  I tried it and 
just a new CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A didn't pick up the change.  Am I not 
remembering correctly?  Should I be able to have the change show up?


Jim

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Re: Filezilla FTP client and the DIR command

2009-01-12 Thread Dodds, Jim
I had this problem also and was never resolved to my satisfaction. You
may call me if you wish to discuss. 

 

Jim Dodds

Systems Programmer

Kentucky State University

400 East Main Street

Frankfort, Ky 40601

502 597 6114

 



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Subject: Filezilla FTP client and the DIR command

 

I'm having problems getting Filezilla from displaying the directory of
my files on the screen. I reviewed the list for past posts and have
changed my LISTFormat to UNIX without success. 

 

Filezilla does make a SSL connect to my system but the directory display
is failing at this point.

 

What am I missing?

 

Secondly is there a windows batch FTP with SSL support to replace the
current CMD FTP command?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Hans 



Re: LOGO CONFIG

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Harding
Check out refresh logo

The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 
01/12/2009 09:02:23 AM:

 I thought that I had, in the past, been able to make a change to LOGO 
 CONFIG and have CP pick up the change without an IPL.  I tried it and 
 just a new CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A didn't pick up the change.  Am I not 
 remembering correctly?  Should I be able to have the change show up?
 
 Jim
 
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Re: LOGO CONFIG

2009-01-12 Thread Imler, Steven J
CP REFRESH ...


JR (Steven) Imler
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Senior Sustaining Engineer
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 Subject: LOGO CONFIG
 
 I thought that I had, in the past, been able to make a change to LOGO
 CONFIG and have CP pick up the change without an IPL.  I tried it and
 just a new CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A didn't pick up the change.  Am I not
 remembering correctly?  Should I be able to have the change show up?
 
 Jim
 
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Re: LOGO CONFIG

2009-01-12 Thread James Stracka (DHL US)
You need to do a REFRESH for CP and VTAM

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Subject: LOGO CONFIG

I thought that I had, in the past, been able to make a change to LOGO 
CONFIG and have CP pick up the change without an IPL.  I tried it and 
just a new CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A didn't pick up the change.  Am I not 
remembering correctly?  Should I be able to have the change show up?

Jim

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Re: LOGO CONFIG

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Walter
The previous replies should do the trick this time.

But for next time, maybe you want to include something like the following 
at the top of your LOGO CONFIG file.
I put comments where I will probably trip over them the next time I need 
them.  You can see that this set if pretty old.

/* Just a reminder that once the SNA logo has been updated, and the  */ 
/* command:  CPACCess MAINT CF1 A SR */ 
/* has been entered, you won't see and update on the logo until after*/ 
/* command: CP REFRESH LOGOinfo LOGO CONFIG  */ 
/* and: CP REFRESH LOGOVSM VSCS  */ 
/* mrw 03/17/99  */ 

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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I thought that I had, in the past, been able to make a change to LOGO 
CONFIG and have CP pick up the change without an IPL.  I tried it and 
just a new CPACCESS MAINT CF1 A didn't pick up the change.  Am I not 
remembering correctly?  Should I be able to have the change show up?

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VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Brosemer
We are getting a connection problem with our first LINUX guest on z/VM 
5.3. I am new to z/VM and do not know networking. I created a TCP/IP stack 
that appears to be working through an OSA card (9F00). We were able to FTP 
the SUSE Linux install. I created a Virtual Switch that uses another OSA 
device (9E00). When we start up the Linux virtual machine, it apears to 
connect to the Virtual Switch. When I do a q vswitch details, I see a 
line like the following.

Adapter Connections:
 Adaptor Owner : NOVSTART NIC: 0600 Name: UNASSIGNED

We are not able to ping outside the Linux virtual machine or connect to 
the virtual machine. I am including an ifconfig -a and q vswitch 
details command output (without the Linux virtual machine being active) . 
 I do not know what to do next to resolve the problem. Any help from the 
list would be appreciated.

ifconfig -a 
DMSACC724I 191 replaces A (191) 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:46:21 
ETH0 inet addr: 172.19.110.100 mask: 255.255.0.0 
 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500 
 vdev: 9F00 rdev: 9F00 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED 
 ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED 
 cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED 
 RX bytes: 3642430945 TX bytes: 91662059 
Ready; T=0.01/0.02 12:46:21 

q vswitch details  
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 0Maxconn: INFINITE
 
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF
  VLAN Unaware  
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01  
  State: Ready  
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8  
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1  
VSWITCH Connection:  
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0  
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0  
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001   
 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:51:13  
  


Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
You'll need to give the server authority to the vswitch first:

set vswitch vswitch1 grant novstart



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We are getting a connection problem with our first LINUX guest on z/VM 5.3. I 
am new to z/VM and do not know networking. I created a TCP/IP stack that 
appears to be working through an OSA card (9F00). We were able to FTP the SUSE 
Linux install. I created a Virtual Switch that uses another OSA device (9E00). 
When we start up the Linux virtual machine, it apears to connect to the Virtual 
Switch. When I do a q vswitch details, I see a line like the following.

Adapter Connections:
 Adaptor Owner : NOVSTART NIC: 0600 Name: UNASSIGNED

We are not able to ping outside the Linux virtual machine or connect to the 
virtual machine. I am including an ifconfig -a and q vswitch details 
command output (without the Linux virtual machine being active) .  I do not 
know what to do next to resolve the problem. Any help from the list would be 
appreciated.

ifconfig -a
DMSACC724I 191 replaces A (191)
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:46:21
ETH0 inet addr: 172.19.110.100 mask: 255.255.0.0
 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500
 vdev: 9F00 rdev: 9F00 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED
 ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED
 cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED
 RX bytes: 3642430945 TX bytes: 91662059
Ready; T=0.01/0.02 12:46:21

q vswitch details
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 0Maxconn: INFINITE
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF
  VLAN Unaware
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01
  State: Ready
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1
VSWITCH Connection:
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:51:13


Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Rich Smrcina

Charles,

Did you grant access to the VSwitch for the virtual machine?

SET VSWITCH VSWITCH1 GRANT NOVSTART

Charles Brosemer wrote:


We are getting a connection problem with our first LINUX guest on z/VM 
5.3. I am new to z/VM and do not know networking. I created a TCP/IP 
stack that appears to be working through an OSA card (9F00). We were 
able to FTP the SUSE Linux install. I created a Virtual Switch that uses 
another OSA device (9E00). When we start up the Linux virtual machine, 
it apears to connect to the Virtual Switch. When I do a q vswitch 
details, I see a line like the following.


Adapter Connections:
 Adaptor Owner : NOVSTART NIC: 0600 Name: UNASSIGNED

We are not able to ping outside the Linux virtual machine or connect to 
the virtual machine. I am including an ifconfig -a and q vswitch 
details command output (without the Linux virtual machine being active) 
.  I do not know what to do next to resolve the problem. Any help from 
the list would be appreciated.


ifconfig -a  
DMSACC724I 191 replaces A (191)  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:46:21  
ETH0 inet addr: 172.19.110.100 mask: 255.255.0.0  
 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500
 vdev: 9F00 rdev: 9F00 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED  
 ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED  
 cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED  
 RX bytes: 3642430945 TX bytes: 91662059  
Ready; T=0.01/0.02 12:46:21  

q vswitch details   
 
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 0Maxconn: INFINITE 
 
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF   
 
  VLAN Unaware   
   
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01 
   
  State: Ready   
   
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8   
   
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1 
 
VSWITCH Connection: 
 
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0 
   
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0 
   
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001 
   
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:51:13 
 

 



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Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Brosemer
Yes we did do the  grant for novstart.




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Charles,

Did you grant access to the VSwitch for the virtual machine?

SET VSWITCH VSWITCH1 GRANT NOVSTART

Charles Brosemer wrote:

 We are getting a connection problem with our first LINUX guest on z/VM
 5.3. I am new to z/VM and do not know networking. I created a TCP/IP
 stack that appears to be working through an OSA card (9F00). We were
 able to FTP the SUSE Linux install. I created a Virtual Switch that uses
 another OSA device (9E00). When we start up the Linux virtual machine,
 it apears to connect to the Virtual Switch. When I do a q vswitch
 details, I see a line like the following.

 Adapter Connections:
  Adaptor Owner : NOVSTART NIC: 0600 Name: UNASSIGNED

 We are not able to ping outside the Linux virtual machine or connect to
 the virtual machine. I am including an ifconfig -a and q vswitch
 details command output (without the Linux virtual machine being active)
 .  I do not know what to do next to resolve the problem. Any help from
 the list would be appreciated.

 ifconfig -a
 DMSACC724I 191 replaces A (191)
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:46:21
 ETH0 inet addr: 172.19.110.100 mask: 255.255.0.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500
  vdev: 9F00 rdev: 9F00 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED
  ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED
  cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED
  RX bytes: 3642430945 TX bytes: 91662059
 Ready; T=0.01/0.02 12:46:21

 q vswitch details

 VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 0Maxconn: INFINITE

   PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF

   VLAN Unaware

   MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01

   State: Ready

   IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8

   RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1

 VSWITCH Connection:

   MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0

   RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0

   TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0

   RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0

   Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001

 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:51:13





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Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Mark Post
 On 1/12/2009 at  1:16 PM, Charles Brosemer
charles_broseme...@ohionational.com wrote: 
 Yes we did do the  grant for novstart.

It doesn't appear that the NIC is COUPLEd to the VSWITCH.  At least the q 
vswitch details command didn't show that.


Mark Post


Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Rich Smrcina
Your Q VSWITCH DETAILS shows 'Connected: 0'.  So no virtual machines are connected to 
the vswitch.  Check your NICDEF directory setting.


Charles Brosemer wrote:


Yes we did do the  grant for novstart.



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Charles,

Did you grant access to the VSwitch for the virtual machine?

SET VSWITCH VSWITCH1 GRANT NOVSTART

Charles Brosemer wrote:
 
  We are getting a connection problem with our first LINUX guest on z/VM
  5.3. I am new to z/VM and do not know networking. I created a TCP/IP
  stack that appears to be working through an OSA card (9F00). We were
  able to FTP the SUSE Linux install. I created a Virtual Switch that uses
  another OSA device (9E00). When we start up the Linux virtual machine,
  it apears to connect to the Virtual Switch. When I do a q vswitch
  details, I see a line like the following.
 
  Adapter Connections:
   Adaptor Owner : NOVSTART NIC: 0600 Name: UNASSIGNED
 
  We are not able to ping outside the Linux virtual machine or connect to
  the virtual machine. I am including an ifconfig -a and q vswitch
  details command output (without the Linux virtual machine being active)
  .  I do not know what to do next to resolve the problem. Any help from
  the list would be appreciated.
 
  ifconfig -a
  DMSACC724I 191 replaces A (191)
  Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:46:21
  ETH0 inet addr: 172.19.110.100 mask: 255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500
   vdev: 9F00 rdev: 9F00 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED
   ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED
   cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED
   RX bytes: 3642430945 TX bytes: 91662059
  Ready; T=0.01/0.02 12:46:21
 
  q vswitch details
 
  VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 0Maxconn: INFINITE
 
PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF
 
VLAN Unaware
 
MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01
 
State: Ready
 
IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8
 
RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1
 
  VSWITCH Connection:
 
MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0
 
RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
 
TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
 
RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0
 
Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001
 
  Ready; T=0.01/0.01 12:51:13
 
 
 


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Re: Filezilla FTP client and the DIR command

2009-01-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/12/2009 at 12:01 EST, Hans Rempel h...@hmrconsultants.com 
wrote:
 I?m having problems getting Filezilla from displaying the directory of 
my files 
 on the screen. I reviewed the list for past posts and have changed my 
 LISTFormat to UNIX without success. 

 Filezilla does make a SSL connect to my system but the directory display 
is 
 failing at this point.

This is often due to Encryption Meets Firewall.  Deep-inspection firewalls 
watch the FTP control connection and only open the needed ports based on 
seeing the port numbers on the PORT and PASV commands.  (A DIR opens a 
data connection just like GET or PUT.)  With the control connection 
encrypted, the firwall can't read the control connection.  And it doesn't 
matter whether you are operating in passive or active mode.

With z/VM 5.4 you can use the FTP CCC (Clear Command Channel) subcommand 
to return to plain-text after entering your user ID and password.  Then 
the fw can see the PORT and PASV commands, but the data transfer will be 
encrypted.

If you don't like that (or are using earlier release of z/VM, or 
workstation ftp client doesn't support it), then you have to drill holes 
in the firewall.
(a) Use passive FTP, 
(b) Code PassivePortRange in SRVRFTP CONFIG,
(c) RESERVE those ports for your FTP server in PROFILE TCPIP
(c) open the port range specified in (b) in the firewall.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
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Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/12/2009 at 01:27 EST, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:
  On 1/12/2009 at  1:16 PM, Charles Brosemer
 charles_broseme...@ohionational.com wrote:
  Yes we did do the  grant for novstart.
 
 It doesn't appear that the NIC is COUPLEd to the VSWITCH.  At least the 
q 
 vswitch details command didn't show that.

To look for errors, actually LOGON to the Linux id (after is has been 
completely logged off) and watch the console.  You will see NICDEF errors 
that are not trappable via the console log or SCIF.  :-(

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Brosemer
We have just brought up the Linux vritual machine. We get these errors in 
the LINUX startup.

Setting up network interfaces:  
lo  
loIP address: 127.0.0.1/8  
Checking for network time protocol daemon (NTPD): ..unused  
[1A..doneWaiting for mandatory devices:  qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0340 __NSC__  
20 19 18 17 16 15  
13  
  
12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 
0  
qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0340   No interface found  
[1A..failedSetting up service network  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
.  . 
 .  ...failed  

I also have a query of the virtual machine after the startup

q vswitch details 
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 1Maxconn: INFINITE 
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF 
  VLAN Unaware 
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01 
  State: Ready 
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8 
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1 
VSWITCH Connection: 
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0 
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
  TX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 0 
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001
  Adapter Connections: 
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0600  Name: UNASSIGNED 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:47:24 
 
We think we have to define the 340 NIC and couple it to the vswitch. The 
define works OK but we are having trouble with the couple command.

We did the follwoing commands from maint.

set vswitch vswitch1 grant novstart  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:57:52  
HCPSWS2858I NOVSTART connection to SYSTEM VSWITCH1 has been updated by 
MAINT. 
Command complete  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:57:52  
  
define nic 340 
NIC 0340 is created; devices 0340-0342 defined 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:58:39 

couple 340 to system vswitch1 
HCPNDF6024E Incompatible LAN - SYSTEM VSWITCH1 is a VSWITCH LAN. 
Ready(06024); T=0.01/0.01 13:59:36 

We are haqving trouble with the couple command. Are these the correct 
commands to use?



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 On 1/12/2009 at  1:16 PM, Charles Brosemer
charles_broseme...@ohionational.com wrote:
 Yes we did do the  grant for novstart.

It doesn't appear that the NIC is COUPLEd to the VSWITCH.  At least the q 
vswitch details command didn't show that.


Mark Post


Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Charles Brosemer
I think we have a connection to the VSWITCH. We had to grant our Linux 
user novstart access to the vswitch from maint. There were command in the 
start of novstart that we uncommented. We had to define the nic with type 
qdio and couple the nic to the vswitch. I did a display on the vswitch and 
it looks like we are connected. Below is the display. We are getting 
closer, but I cant't can't ping from tcpmaint to 172.19.110.180 
(novstart). We do have networking looking at this, but it looks like the 
vswitch may not be defined correctly.

q vswitch details  
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 2Maxconn: INFINITE  
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF  
  VLAN Unaware  
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01  
  State: Ready  
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8  
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1  
VSWITCH Connection:  
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0  
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564  
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001  
  Adapter Connections:  
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0340  Name: UNASSIGNED  
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0  
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564  
  Device: 0342  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0080  Index: 0002  
  Options: Broadcast Multicast IPv6 IPv4 VLAN  
Unicast IP Addresses:  
  172.19.110.180   MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03  
  FE80::200:0:100:3MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03 Local  
Multicast IP Addresses:  
  224.0.0.1MAC: 01-00-5E-00-00-01 
  224.0.1.22   MAC: 01-00-5E-00-01-16 
  239.255.255.253  MAC: 01-00-5E-7F-FF-FD 
  FF02::1  MAC: 33-33-00-00-00-01 Local 
  FF02::1:FF00:3   MAC: 33-33-FF-00-00-03 Local 
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0600  Name: UNASSIGNED 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:35:19 

Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Rich Smrcina
Make sure that the netmask and the default route that you put into the network 
configuration file for NOVSTART are correct.  Verify this with your networking peeps.


Charles Brosemer wrote:


I think we have a connection to the VSWITCH. We had to grant our Linux 
user novstart access to the vswitch from maint. There were command in 
the start of novstart that we uncommented. We had to define the nic with 
type qdio and couple the nic to the vswitch. I did a display on the 
vswitch and it looks like we are connected. Below is the display. We are 
getting closer, but I cant't can't ping from tcpmaint to 172.19.110.180 
(novstart). We do have networking looking at this, but it looks like the 
vswitch may not be defined correctly.


q vswitch details   
 
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 2Maxconn: INFINITE 
 
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF   
 
  VLAN Unaware   
   
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01 
   
  State: Ready   
   
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8   
   
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1 
 
VSWITCH Connection: 
 
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0 
   
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564   
   
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001 
   
  Adapter Connections:   
   
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0340  Name: UNASSIGNED 
 
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0 
   
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564   
   
  Device: 0342  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0080  Index: 0002 
   
  Options: Broadcast Multicast IPv6 IPv4 VLAN   
 
Unicast IP Addresses:   
 
  172.19.110.180   MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03   
 
  FE80::200:0:100:3MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03 Local 
 
Multicast IP Addresses: 
 
  224.0.0.1MAC: 01-00-5E-00-00-01  
  224.0.1.22   MAC: 01-00-5E-00-01-16  
  239.255.255.253  MAC: 01-00-5E-7F-FF-FD  
  FF02::1  MAC: 33-33-00-00-00-01 Local

  FF02::1:FF00:3   MAC: 33-33-FF-00-00-03 Local
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0600  Name: UNASSIGNED
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:35:19



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Re: VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem

2009-01-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
in your previous post I saw netmask 255.255.0.0.  Are you sure that is correct?


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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VSWITCH LINUX Connection Problem



I think we have a connection to the VSWITCH. We had to grant our Linux user 
novstart access to the vswitch from maint. There were command in the start of 
novstart that we uncommented. We had to define the nic with type qdio and 
couple the nic to the vswitch. I did a display on the vswitch and it looks like 
we are connected. Below is the display. We are getting closer, but I cant't 
can't ping from tcpmaint to 172.19.110.180 (novstart). We do have networking 
looking at this, but it looks like the vswitch may not be defined correctly.

q vswitch details
VSWITCH SYSTEM VSWITCH1 Type: VSWITCH Connected: 2Maxconn: INFINITE
  PERSISTENT  RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF
  VLAN Unaware
  MAC address: 02-00-00-00-00-01
  State: Ready
  IPTimeout: 5 QueueStorage: 8
  RDEV: 9E00 VDEV: 9E00 Controller: DTCVSW1
VSWITCH Connection:
  MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-A6-A0
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564
  Device: 9E02  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0001  Index: 0001
  Adapter Connections:
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0340  Name: UNASSIGNED
  RX Packets: 0  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  TX Packets: 8  Discarded: 0  Errors: 0
  RX Bytes: 0TX Bytes: 564
  Device: 0342  Unit: 002   Role: DATA   Port: 0080  Index: 0002
  Options: Broadcast Multicast IPv6 IPv4 VLAN
Unicast IP Addresses:
  172.19.110.180   MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03
  FE80::200:0:100:3MAC: 02-00-00-00-00-03 Local
Multicast IP Addresses:
  224.0.0.1MAC: 01-00-5E-00-00-01
  224.0.1.22   MAC: 01-00-5E-00-01-16
  239.255.255.253  MAC: 01-00-5E-7F-FF-FD
  FF02::1  MAC: 33-33-00-00-00-01 Local
  FF02::1:FF00:3   MAC: 33-33-FF-00-00-03 Local
Adapter Owner: NOVSTART NIC: 0600  Name: UNASSIGNED
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 14:35:19


WebSphere CPU starvation Message

2009-01-12 Thread Steve Mitchell
We are migrating from WebSphere V5 to V6.  Also going from Single Server 

mode to Network Configuration.  We are going from 1 Production guest per 

server to 1 Production guest for 3 production Servers.  Each WAS Server i
s 
doing the same work as before ie Server1 is App1 and so on, we are not 

mixing workloads.  The application response time is not as good in V6 vs 

V5.  I'm not looking for WAS help, but in the log they are receiving 'cpu
 
starvation' messages.  Linux/UNIX admins running VMSTAT say they see idle
 
of 0.  Yet when I log on to the linux guest I dont have any 
problems 'running' things and neither do they (linux unix admins).  Also 

VELOCITY shows this guest averaging approx 25-50% of 1 IFL (we have 2). 
 
I'm perplexed, is this guest actually suffering from 'lack of cpu' during
 
some peak periods?  How do I verify?  Any thoughts suggestions are much 

appreciatted.


Re: WebSphere CPU starvation Message

2009-01-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Steve Mitchell
steve.mitch...@bcbsks.com wrote:

 I'm perplexed, is this guest actually suffering from 'lack of cpu' during
 some peak periods?  How do I verify?  Any thoughts suggestions are much
 appreciatted.

Since you confirm it *is* getting CPU resources, it sounds like the
JVM is not dispatching the threads because it is doing something for
itself. Maybe the heap configured is too small and causing very
frequent garbage collections. There's some Java tools that allow you
to analyze the GC log to produce the heap statistics.
Or maybe the heap is defined too large in that it gets swapped by
Linux and stalls the JVM.

Rob
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Re: WebSphere CPU starvation Message

2009-01-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
First, open a problem with IBM WAS support.   Start right away - WAS is not 
z/VM :)

We saw this once upon a long time ago.   I'll have to ask a WAS admin here if 
she remembers this one.  But it wasn't a shortage of cpu on either Linux or VM 
here. It was some WAS tuning thing.
Do you have latest fixpack on WAS ND?

V6 initially ran slower here too for our big big clustered application, but 
lots and lots of tuning evetually got it better than V5.  Hopefully you have 
something like Introscope.


Marcy

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Of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] WebSphere CPU starvation Message

We are migrating from WebSphere V5 to V6.  Also going from Single Server =

mode to Network Configuration.  We are going from 1 Production guest per =

server to 1 Production guest for 3 production Servers.  Each WAS Server i= s 
doing the same work as before ie Server1 is App1 and so on, we are not =

mixing workloads.  The application response time is not as good in V6 vs =

V5.  I'm not looking for WAS help, but in the log they are receiving 'cpu=

starvation' messages.  Linux/UNIX admins running VMSTAT say they see idle=

of 0.  Yet when I log on to the linux guest I dont have any problems 'running' 
things and neither do they (linux unix admins).  Also =

VELOCITY shows this guest averaging approx 25-50% of 1 IFL (we have 2). =

I'm perplexed, is this guest actually suffering from 'lack of cpu' during=

some peak periods?  How do I verify?  Any thoughts suggestions are much =

appreciatted.


Re: Secure FTP

2009-01-12 Thread HOWARD MCCORKLE
Hi Terry, I just finished setting this up using v/VM 5.4 with the new
sslserv, if you're interested.



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Secure FTP



Hi

 

I am trying to figure out how to set up Secure FTP on z/VM so that I can
send data from my z/VM LPARS to my z/OS LPARS. Mostly I want to get my
z/VM z/Linux performance data over to my capacity folks on the z/OS for
reporting. I am not sure how to go about setting Secure FTP up on z/VM.
Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. 

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

 

Thank You,

 

Terry Martin

Lockheed Martin - Information Technology

z/OS  z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning

Cell - 443 632-4191

Work - 410 786-0386

terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov

 


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Re: WebSphere CPU starvation Message

2009-01-12 Thread David Kreuter
sigh. You may be hitting what I refer to as the q4 problem - WAS machines 
never leaving the queue due to some
silly yet evil was work that insists on popping up in less than the vm test 
idle time.  I am pursuing some ways out of this.
 
Check how many WAS virtual machine are in Q3, and never get to the dormant 
list.  With ESAMON check which queues your v.m.'s are in along with 
paging rates.
 
David Kreuter



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Mon 1/12/2009 4:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] WebSphere CPU starvation Message



We are migrating from WebSphere V5 to V6.  Also going from Single Server =

mode to Network Configuration.  We are going from 1 Production guest per =

server to 1 Production guest for 3 production Servers.  Each WAS Server i=
s
doing the same work as before ie Server1 is App1 and so on, we are not =

mixing workloads.  The application response time is not as good in V6 vs =

V5.  I'm not looking for WAS help, but in the log they are receiving 'cpu=

starvation' messages.  Linux/UNIX admins running VMSTAT say they see idle=

of 0.  Yet when I log on to the linux guest I dont have any
problems 'running' things and neither do they (linux unix admins).  Also =

VELOCITY shows this guest averaging approx 25-50% of 1 IFL (we have 2). =

I'm perplexed, is this guest actually suffering from 'lack of cpu' during=

some peak periods?  How do I verify?  Any thoughts suggestions are much =

appreciatted. 





Re: Secure FTP

2009-01-12 Thread Hans Rempel
Hi Howard. What PC (windows) client to do you use for secure FTP with your
z/VM 5.4 system? I just downloaded the latest version of WS FTP and got it
working but it is not the one we use at our site. I'm still trying to get
FileZilla to work but have not had much success. Alan's given me some
suggestions I will pursue them tomorrow. 

 

Hans

 

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Behalf Of HOWARD MCCORKLE
Sent: January 12, 2009 5:22 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Secure FTP

 

Hi Terry, I just finished setting this up using v/VM 5.4 with the new
sslserv, if you're interested.

 

  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Secure FTP

Hi

 

I am trying to figure out how to set up Secure FTP on z/VM so that I can
send data from my z/VM LPARS to my z/OS LPARS. Mostly I want to get my z/VM
z/Linux performance data over to my capacity folks on the z/OS for
reporting. I am not sure how to go about setting Secure FTP up on z/VM. Any
thoughts on this would be much appreciated. 

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

 

Thank You,

 

Terry Martin

Lockheed Martin - Information Technology

z/OS  z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning

Cell - 443 632-4191

Work - 410 786-0386

terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov

 

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Re: WebSphere CPU starvation Message

2009-01-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
From the WAS 6.1 documentation:


CPU starvation messages in the system log file


CPU starvation detected error messages are displayed in the system log file 
whenever there is not enough physical memory available to allow the high 
availability manager threads to have consistent runtimes. When the CPU is 
spending the majority of its time trying to load swapped-out processes while 
processing incoming work, thread starvation might occur. The high availability 
manager detects this condition, and logs these error messages informing you 
that threads are not getting the required runtime.

To achieve good performance and avoid receiving these error messages, it is 
recommended that you allocate at least 512 MB of RAM for each Java process 
running on a single machine


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Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] WebSphere CPU starvation Message


sigh. You may be hitting what I refer to as the q4 problem - WAS machines 
never leaving the queue due to some
silly yet evil was work that insists on popping up in less than the vm test 
idle time.  I am pursuing some ways out of this.

Check how many WAS virtual machine are in Q3, and never get to the dormant 
list.  With ESAMON check which queues your v.m.'s are in along with
paging rates.

David Kreuter



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Steve Mitchell
Sent: Mon 1/12/2009 4:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] WebSphere CPU starvation Message



We are migrating from WebSphere V5 to V6.  Also going from Single Server =

mode to Network Configuration.  We are going from 1 Production guest per =

server to 1 Production guest for 3 production Servers.  Each WAS Server i=
s
doing the same work as before ie Server1 is App1 and so on, we are not =

mixing workloads.  The application response time is not as good in V6 vs =

V5.  I'm not looking for WAS help, but in the log they are receiving 'cpu=

starvation' messages.  Linux/UNIX admins running VMSTAT say they see idle=

of 0.  Yet when I log on to the linux guest I dont have any
problems 'running' things and neither do they (linux unix admins).  Also =

VELOCITY shows this guest averaging approx 25-50% of 1 IFL (we have 2). =

I'm perplexed, is this guest actually suffering from 'lack of cpu' during=

some peak periods?  How do I verify?  Any thoughts suggestions are much =

appreciatted.


Re: Secure FTP

2009-01-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/12/2009 at 10:10 EST, Hans Rempel h...@hmrconsultants.com 
wrote:
 Hi Howard. What PC (windows) client to do you use for secure FTP with 
your z/VM 
 5.4 system? I just downloaded the latest version of WS FTP and got it 
working 
 but it is not the one we use at our site. I?m still trying to get 
FileZilla to 
 work but have not had much success. Alan?s given me some suggestions I 
will 
 pursue them tomorrow. 

One of our testers has indicated a failure with the latest Filezilla.  We 
haven't yet narrowed the problem down to find out if it's a bug in FZ, VM, 
or a new firewall issue, but we're working on it.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott