Re: Update z/VM 5.3 to z/vm 5.4
thanks Kris, Iam review the manual for details. Thanks again...for the moment ATTE Victor Hugo BBVA CCR America 2009/8/24 Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com You install the new VM release, can be done under your existing VM. Then you take over your own stuff from your old VM and integrate it in the new VM. If you use VM only as host for guests (like Linux), most of this work is taking over the CP directory definitions of the guests. The installation manual should help you. It can be found here http://www.vm.ibm.com/progdir/ z/VM V5.4 Guide for Automated Installation and Service 2009/8/24 Victor Hugo Ochoa vhoa...@gmail.com I have a question…. What is the procedure to follow for update environments z/vm 5.3 to 5.4. Exists some manual or some RSU for this purpose? Thanks to all ATTE Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support -- Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila z/OS z/VM systems programmer Mexico, City.
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
Thank you Miguel, That did it. Shimon, Stop the interface with IFCONFIG VSECM DOWN first. It turns out that IFCONFIG doesn't use the actual device status to decide whether an interface is UP or DOWN...it considers a device UP if it has usable routes (i.e. it can actually send traffic). We should probably change that :-) Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM Development
Re: TCPIP STACK
Have a look in the reader of TCPMAINT for console files sent by TCPIP, they might contain error information. 2009/8/25 Tony Bergenza tony.berge...@gmail.com we customerize all the required componet of TCPMAINT disks in VM5.4 as second level and started TCPIP but still getting the following message though logon to tcpip and started up when enter ifconfig DTCIFC2605E TCP/IP stack TCPIP is not available Do we have to customerize TCPIP server also, How ???. q n TCPIP- DSC , DTCVSW1 - DSC , VMSERVR - DSC , VMSERVU - DSC VMSERVS - DSC , OPERSYMP - DSC , DISKACNT - DSC , EREP - DSC DTCVSW2 - DSC , TCPMAINT - 0009 HOSTSADDRINFO A1 HOSTSSITEINFO A1 PROFILE EXEC A2 PROFILE TCPIPD1 HOSTSLOCALD1 SYSTEM DTCPARMS D1 TCPIPDATA F1 ETC HOSTSF1 HOSTSADDRINFO F1 HOSTSSITEINFO F1 Please guide. Regards Tony -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
On 8/24/09 7:12 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: I am rapidly moving to the opinion that VM TCP/IP should use a VSWITCH and let the VSWITCH handle failover at the hardware level rather than needing multiple IP addresses, VIPAs, and dynamic routing. When VSWITCHes first became available, I was reluctant to put all my eggs in one basket. Now, however, no problem. You grow wise, grasshopper.. 8-)
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
David Boyes wrote: On 8/24/09 7:12 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: I am rapidly moving to the opinion that VM TCP/IP should use a VSWITCH and let the VSWITCH handle failover at the hardware level rather than needing multiple IP addresses, VIPAs, and dynamic routing. When VSWITCHes first became available, I was reluctant to put all my eggs in one basket. Now, however, no problem. You grow wise, grasshopper.. 8-) The clouds parted, beams of sun streak through, it is a good day to be a sysprog. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-14, 2010 Covington, KY
Re: IFCONFIG to -REMOVE a link
On Tuesday, 08/25/2009 at 09:59 EDT, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote: The clouds parted, beams of sun streak through, it is a good day to be a sysprog. And a heavenly chorus was heard. You make it sound like I'm an opinionated old goat who never changes his mind on anything. Oh. I see your point. ;-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Another question regarding RSU 0902
During the build process for CMS I got four times the message: VMFSBR2000I Objects in segment build list dmssname EXEC have been built or deleted. Any segments using this build list will have to be rebuilt. ... Never the less it finished saying: VMFBLD2180I There are 0 build requirements remaining. Which one of the two statements should I believe? Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Software AG - Sitz/Registered office: Uhlandstra?e 12, 64297 Darmstadt, Germany, - Registergericht/Commercial register: Darmstadt HRB 1562 - Vorstand/ Management Board: Karl-Heinz Streibich (Vorsitzender/Chairman), David Broadbent, Mark Edwards, Dr. Peter Kurpick, Ivo Totev, Arnd Zinnhardt; - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dr. Andreas Bereczky - http://www.softwareag.com
PSP bucket site
To review PSP bucket for z/osk I usually go to the following site (I thought): HTTPS:/TECHSUPPORT/SERVICES.IBM.COM/SERVER/390.PSP390 I get a Web page not found screen. Has this changed or have I typed something wrong?? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: Another question regarding RSU 0902
Saved segments are placed outside of the products/components. Thus: the build of CMS itself is complete, but it placed segment build request(s) in the saved segments build status table (found on MAINT 51D). Issue this to see what should be built: EXEC VMFBLD PPF SEGBLD ESASEGS SEGBLIST (STATUS or with option SERVICED to actually build them. 2009/8/25 Buettner, Wolfgang wolfgang.buett...@softwareag.com During the build process for CMS I got four times the message: VMFSBR2000I Objects in segment build list dmssname EXEC have been built or deleted. Any segments using this build list will have to be rebuilt. ... Never the less it finished saying: VMFBLD2180I There are 0 build requirements remaining. Which one of the two statements should I believe? Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Software AG - Sitz/Registered office: Uhlandstra?e 12, 64297 Darmstadt, Germany, - Registergericht/Commercial register: Darmstadt HRB 1562 - Vorstand/ Management Board: Karl-Heinz Streibich (Vorsitzender/Chairman), David Broadbent, Mark Edwards, Dr. Peter Kurpick, Ivo Totev, Arnd Zinnhardt; - Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dr. Andreas Bereczky - http://www.softwareag.com -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: PSP bucket site
On Tuesday, 08/25/2009 at 01:17 EDT, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: To review PSP bucket for z/osk I usually go to the following site (I thought): HTTPS:/TECHSUPPORT/SERVICES.IBM.COM/SERVER/390.PSP390 dot instead of slash https://techsupport.services.ibm.com/server/390.psp390 Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: PSP bucket site
That looks totally wrong to me. I get PSP buckets via IBMLink at http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2 You need to have a signon for this. And it costs money. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: PSP bucket site To review PSP bucket for z/osk I usually go to the following site (I thought): HTTPS:/TECHSUPPORT/SERVICES.IBM.COM/SERVER/390.PSP390 I get a Web page not found screen. Has this changed or have I typed something wrong?? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
DDR and CPFMTXA commands
Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos VM Systems Programmer Binghamton University
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos z/VM books are at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA1 DDR is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.7 CPFMTXA is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.4 Now, IIRC, these are not CP commands. They are CMS commands and are thus generally available to any CMS user. Of course, you must have access to the devices in order for them to work as you would want. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
Those are not covered by privilege class. They can run in any virtual machine. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos VM Systems Programmer Binghamton University
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
Correct, they are no CP commands, they are CP utilities. Both are described in CP Commands and Utilities Reference. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:52 PM, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos z/VM books are at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA1 DDR is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.7 CPFMTXA is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.4 Now, IIRC, these are not CP commands. They are CMS commands and are thus generally available to any CMS user. Of course, you must have access to the devices in order for them to work as you would want. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
Thanks so much for the information. Mary McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos z/VM books are at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA1 DDR is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.7 CPFMTXA is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.4 Now, IIRC, these are not CP commands. They are CMS commands and are thus generally available to any CMS user. Of course, you must have access to the devices in order for them to work as you would want. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
Direct link to the CP Commands and Utilities manual http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcse4b31.pdf Regards John Harris IBM -- Original Message -- Received: 02:40 PM EDT, 08/25/2009 From: Mary Zervos zer...@binghamton.edu To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos VM Systems Programmer Binghamton University
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
This is in the beginning of the CP Utilities Chapter that might be of interest.. Privilege class: if applicable, identifies the users able to issue the utility or the implied privilege class because of privileged diagnose codes. If the utility invokes a diagnose, then the privilege class defined for that diagnose becomes the privilege class for the utility. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Correct, they are no CP commands, they are CP utilities. Both are described in CP Commands and Utilities Reference. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:52 PM, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos z/VM books are at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA1 DDR is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.7 CPFMTXA is described at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcse4b31/3.4 Now, IIRC, these are not CP commands. They are CMS commands and are thus generally available to any CMS user. Of course, you must have access to the devices in order for them to work as you would want. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
One or both may be protected by the ESM though - RACF, ACF2, etc. Larry Brown -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Those are not covered by privilege class. They can run in any virtual machine. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos VM Systems Programmer Binghamton University
Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands
And to add a little more fuel, you may require OPTION MAINTCCW depending on the function used in CPFMTXA. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Brown, Larry - St. Louis, MO larry.bro...@stl.usda.gov wrote: One or both may be protected by the ESM though - RACF, ACF2, etc. Larry Brown -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:54 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Those are not covered by privilege class. They can run in any virtual machine. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Zervos Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DDR and CPFMTXA commands Can someone please point me to the right manuals to find what privilege classes a user needs to use DDR and CPFMTXA. Thanks so much. Mary Zervos VM Systems Programmer Binghamton University -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
TCP/IP Hangs?
We notice fairly frequent occurrences of a momentary hang condition. We see the x-clock in the lower left corner of the terminal emulator screen. These can last any where from a couple to 30 or more seconds. I have been unsuccessful tying this to any messages in the TCPIP console log. How do I find out what is happening, whether it is a TCP/IP problem or one elsewhere in the network? * Surely there are numbers in the monitor data that will help, but which ones? I am at a loss. * Are there any traces that I should run? Seems doubtful - how do you trace a non-event? Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: TCP/IP Hangs?
A network trace between your IP address and the TCPIP stack is an excellent place to start. Looking at the packet trace will tell you whic h end of the connection is causing the delay. It could be delays caused by conflicts between the TCPIP algorithms for Nagle and Delayed Acks (which can be intermitten based on the packets tha t need transmitting). Been there, debugged that. It could also be a problem on the PC if Windows is doing paging. Been there too. Brian Nielsen On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:32:22 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrot e: We notice fairly frequent occurrences of a momentary hang condition. We see the x-clock in the lower left corner of the terminal emulator screen. These can last any where from a couple to 30 or more seconds. I have been unsuccessful tying this to any messages in the TCPIP console log. How do I find out what is happening, whether it is a TCP/IP problem or one elsewhere in the network? * Surely there are numbers in the monitor data that will help, but which ones? I am at a loss. * Are there any traces that I should run? Seems doubtful - how do you trace a non-event? Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: TCP/IP Hangs?
Over a 1.5 hour period (90 monitor intervals) when lots of people were complaining, In ESATCP1 The only window showing consistently flagged values. Segments transmitted/InErr from .1-79.3 with a positive value reported every interval; Closes per minute/Resets with 16 non-zero intervals ranging from 1 (6 int) to 369. ESATCP2 Not a single highlighted value. ESATCP3 One interval had a bad Dest count of 688 ESAXACT a few ( 10) intervals had flagged entries under Pct non-dormant/PAG - the numbers were between 1.2 and 2.5 Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TCP/IP Hangs? look at the ESAXACT screen/report and make sure tcpip is not waiting for anything. If very storage constrained, could see that. Look at ESATCP1/2/4 for errors that show up in the network. Schuh, Richard wrote: We notice fairly frequent occurrences of a momentary hang condition. We see the x-clock in the lower left corner of the terminal emulator screen. These can last any where from a couple to 30 or more seconds. I have been unsuccessful tying this to any messages in the TCPIP console log. How do I find out what is happening, whether it is a TCP/IP problem or one elsewhere in the network? * Surely there are numbers in the monitor data that will help, but which ones? I am at a loss. * Are there any traces that I should run? Seems doubtful - how do you trace a non-event? Regards, Richard Schuh
Stand-alone IPL of a Virtual tape
We are starting to implement a virtual tape system in our VM system; they are planning to get rid of our silos. To us, it is a black box; the zOS guys say just mount these volumes on these tape devices; treat them like real cartridge on real 3490 drives and you're good to go. I've tested the volumes devices using RMSMASTR, VMTAPE, VMBACKUP, DDR and for the most part, they work well. My question is: Recovery process usually starts with a stand-alone program, like DSF or DDR. If we have to IPL a stand-alone program like DDR that happens to be in a virtual volume onto a bare LPAR, how is this done? Thanks for any info. Ismael
Re: Stand-alone IPL of a Virtual tape
Ismael, You can issue the mount command from another LPAR. If the other LPAR is z/VM, this can be a VMTAPE MOUNT or DFSMSRM MOUNT command. If you have only one z/VM LPAR, then you'll have to issue the mount from z/OS. I don't know the command for that. Another option is to have a small system on disk that can be used to recover your main system. Normally, you would maintain the small system as a guest of your main system, but you would configure it so that it can also be IPLed first level. If you have to recover your main system in its usual datacenter, just IPL the small system and start your restores. For disaster recovery, you could backup and restore the small system using full volume dumps from z/OS. Note that this works for restores, but not standalone dump. For standalone dump, you need to have another LPAR available to IPL the small system. If you IPL it in the LPAR that you want to dump, the IPL will destroy the data that you want to dump. Dennis O'Brien I couldn't remember how to throw a boomerang, but eventually it came back to me. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ifurung, ism...@cio Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 15:25 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Stand-alone IPL of a Virtual tape We are starting to implement a virtual tape system in our VM system; they are planning to get rid of our silos. To us, it is a black box; the zOS guys say just mount these volumes on these tape devices; treat them like real cartridge on real 3490 drives and you're good to go. I've tested the volumes devices using RMSMASTR, VMTAPE, VMBACKUP, DDR and for the most part, they work well. My question is: Recovery process usually starts with a stand-alone program, like DSF or DDR. If we have to IPL a stand-alone program like DDR that happens to be in a virtual volume onto a bare LPAR, how is this done? Thanks for any info. Ismael