Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
The syntax section of ftp.rexx is impossible to read with either IE or CHARLOTTe. Does someone have readable syntax? I tried accessing the http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools.1997/ but it times out. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:26:13 -0600 Dave Jones said: Hi, Mark. In addition to the many excellent suggestions you've already received, you might also want to consider using the CMS Pipeline FTP stage. A very simple example of its use is: PIPE test file a | ftp use...@host.domain/test.file It also supports using an FTP proxy server,as well. You can find it here: http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/ftp.rexx Have a good one. DJ
Re: JES to RSCS LPR printer
Thanks everyone, I found the problem I was having. Actually fairly dumb on my part. I changed the DEST to bpzvm.xwc132, and it didn't print. I assumed it didn't work. But what I found is that it was in the RSCS queue with a user-hold. When I released the hold it printed. Now I need to find if there is a VSE DISP= type parameter in z/OS so that it won't go to RSCS with a user-hold. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: We do that. I'm not a z/OS person, but I think they just use DEST=vmnode.printer Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] JES to RSCS LPR printer Is it possible to route JES output to an LPR printer defined to RSCS? The LPR printer works great in RSCS, but can't for the life of me make it work with IP Printway in z/OS. I already have RSCS and JES connected, I currently use it to send output to my VM userid, and then print it from my VM userid to the RSCS printer. I would just like to remove the step of logging in to VM and printing. Thanks for any assistance. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: JES to RSCS LPR printer
I have had that problem at other places and until the MVS people fixed their side I used my SCHEDULER product to change RSCS prt queues to NOHOLD every 30 minutes so anything hung up would print, eventually. good luck munson Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/15/2010 08:33 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: JES to RSCS LPR printer Thanks everyone, I found the problem I was having. Actually fairly dumb on my part. I changed the DEST to bpzvm.xwc132, and it didn't print. I assumed it didn't work. But what I found is that it was in the RSCS queue with a user-hold. When I released the hold it printed. Now I need to find if there is a VSE DISP= type parameter in z/OS so that it won't go to RSCS with a user-hold. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: We do that. I'm not a z/OS person, but I think they just use DEST=vmnode.printer Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] JES to RSCS LPR printer Is it possible to route JES output to an LPR printer defined to RSCS? The LPR printer works great in RSCS, but can't for the life of me make it work with IP Printway in z/OS. I already have RSCS and JES connected, I currently use it to send output to my VM userid, and then print it from my VM userid to the RSCS printer. I would just like to remove the step of logging in to VM and printing. Thanks for any assistance. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
The original has 3270 line drawing characters in it. I dug up some old tools and tried to convert it to simple line drawing - here is what came out: Syntax: --FTP-+-+- | +---+ | +-+-+--+-+ ftp-url +-+-+-+ option +-+-+ | +-+ | | +-+ | | ++ | | +-LIST-+ | | +-NLST-+ | +-+ host +-+ ftp-url: +-FTP://+ +-+---+-+ open +--++-+ +-/-+ ftp-url-path +-+ open: +-+-+-+ host +-+ +-+ login +...@-+ host: +--.--++-:21---+ +-+-+-word-+--+-±---±-+ +-ipaddress-+ +-:port-+ login: +-ANONYMOUS:mailbox+ +-+-userid-+---+-+-+ +-:-+--++ +-password-+ ftp-url-path: +-+---+-+--+-+--+-+ | +-/--+ | +-name-+ +-;TYPE=-+-E-+-+ +-+-cwd-+-/-+ +-A-+ +-I-+ +-D-+ option: +-+-+-EBcdic-++-+ | +-AScii--+| | +-+-Binary-+-+| | +-IMage--+ | +-+-RECord-++ | +-FILe---+| +-+-BLOck--++ | +-STReam-+| | +-QUIET--+| +-+-NOISY--++ +-PASSIVE---+ +-ANYDATAport---+ +-PROXY-+ ftp-url +-+ +-SITE-dstring--+ +-TIMEOut-nnn---+ +-USERid-tcpipid+ | +-1047-819+ | | | +-819-+ | | | +-CODEPages-+-nnn-±-±-+-+ | | | +-nnn-+ | | +-±---±-+ | | +-+ | | | +-+-+-E2Atable-dstring-+-+--+ | | +-A2Etable-dstring-+ | | +-QUIET-+ | +-±---±-+ | +-NOISY-+ | +-+-TOLerant---++ +-INTOLerant-+ You will, of course, have to use a fixed font to view this.. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Fran Hensler f...@zvm.sru.edu wrote: The syntax section of ftp.rexx is impossible to read with either IE or CHARLOTTe. Does someone have readable syntax? I tried accessing the http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools.1997/ but it times out. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
Thanks for posting Bruce. I was having a heck of a time converting some of the special characters. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Hayden Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:42 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server The original has 3270 line drawing characters in it. I dug up some old tools and tried to convert it to simple line drawing - here is what came out: Syntax: --FTP-+-+- | +---+ | +-+-+--+-+ ftp-url +-+-+-+ option +-+-+ | +-+ | | +-+ | | ++ | | +-LIST-+ | | +-NLST-+ | +-+ host +-+ ftp-url: +-FTP://+ +-+---+-+ open +--++-+ +-/-+ ftp-url-path +-+ open: +-+-+-+ host +-+ +-+ login +...@-+ host: +--.--++-:21---+ +-+-+-word-+--+-±---±-+ +-ipaddress-+ +-:port-+ login: +-ANONYMOUS:mailbox+ +-+-userid-+---+-+-+ +-:-+--++ +-password-+ ftp-url-path: +-+---+-+--+-+--+-+ | +-/--+ | +-name-+ +-;TYPE=-+-E-+-+ +-+-cwd-+-/-+ +-A-+ +-I-+ +-D-+ option: +-+-+-EBcdic-++-+ | +-AScii--+| | +-+-Binary-+-+| | +-IMage--+ | +-+-RECord-++ | +-FILe---+| +-+-BLOck--++ | +-STReam-+| | +-QUIET--+| +-+-NOISY--++ +-PASSIVE---+ +-ANYDATAport---+ +-PROXY-+ ftp-url +-+ +-SITE-dstring--+ +-TIMEOut-nnn---+ +-USERid-tcpipid+ | +-1047-819+ | | | +-819-+ | | | +-CODEPages-+-nnn-±-±-+-+ | | | +-nnn-+ | | +-±---±-+ | | +-+ | | | +-+-+-E2Atable-dstring-+-+--+ | | +-A2Etable-dstring-+ | | +-QUIET-+ | +-±---±-+ | +-NOISY-+ | +-+-TOLerant---++ +-INTOLerant-+ You will, of course, have to use a fixed font to view this.. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Fran Hensler f...@zvm.sru.edu wrote: The syntax section of ftp.rexx is impossible to read with either IE or CHARLOTTe. Does someone have readable syntax? I tried accessing the http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools.1997/ but it times out. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: JES to RSCS LPR printer
You will have to send it to an OUTCLASS in JES that is not defined with OUTDISP=(HOLD...), or release the output in the JES queue prior to sending it to RSCS. Check with your JES folks for a class that has OUTDISP=(WRITE,...). From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: JES to RSCS LPR printer Thanks everyone, I found the problem I was having. Actually fairly dumb on my part. I changed the DEST to bpzvm.xwc132, and it didn't print. I assumed it didn't work. But what I found is that it was in the RSCS queue with a user-hold. When I released the hold it printed. Now I need to find if there is a VSE DISP= type parameter in z/OS so that it won't go to RSCS with a user-hold. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.commailto:marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: We do that. I'm not a z/OS person, but I think they just use DEST=vmnode.printer Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] JES to RSCS LPR printer Is it possible to route JES output to an LPR printer defined to RSCS? The LPR printer works great in RSCS, but can't for the life of me make it work with IP Printway in z/OS. I already have RSCS and JES connected, I currently use it to send output to my VM userid, and then print it from my VM userid to the RSCS printer. I would just like to remove the step of logging in to VM and printing. Thanks for any assistance. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
After I downloaded it, I XEDITed and entered SET TEXT ON, which makes it readable. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 6:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server The syntax section of ftp.rexx is impossible to read with either IE or CHARLOTTe. Does someone have readable syntax? I tried accessing the http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools.1997/ but it times out. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:26:13 -0600 Dave Jones said: Hi, Mark. In addition to the many excellent suggestions you've already received, you might also want to consider using the CMS Pipeline FTP stage. A very simple example of its use is: PIPE test file a | ftp use...@host.domain/test.file It also supports using an FTP proxy server,as well. You can find it here: http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/ftp.rexx Have a good one. DJ _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
Thank you all for the great response! Best Regards, Martin Magat -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server After I downloaded it, I XEDITed and entered SET TEXT ON, which makes it readable. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 6:15 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server The syntax section of ftp.rexx is impossible to read with either IE or CHARLOTTe. Does someone have readable syntax? I tried accessing the http://ukcc.uky.edu/~tools.1997/ but it times out. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:26:13 -0600 Dave Jones said: Hi, Mark. In addition to the many excellent suggestions you've already received, you might also want to consider using the CMS Pipeline FTP stage. A very simple example of its use is: PIPE test file a | ftp use...@host.domain/test.file It also supports using an FTP proxy server,as well. You can find it here: http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/ftp.rexx Have a good one. DJ _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: advise on a simple REXX script to automate FTP from zVM to Linux server
That's the ticket, Frank. I added you hint the top of the file and put it on my VM download site at http://zvm.sru.edu/~download And thanks to Bruce Hayden for his solution. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 46 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:55:39 -0600 Frank M. Ramaekers said: After I downloaded it, I XEDITed and entered SET TEXT ON, which makes it readable. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76710
search a file for 2 character strings
I am trying to write a rexx exec that counts the number occurrences of 2 strings of characters. I could like to search for N798 and C798 Right now I just do the look at the unique characters results. This is what I have: /* WORDUSE EXEC -- Word Use Analyzer */ parse arg fid 'pipe (endchar ?)', '' PLOG PRINT W, /* READ THE FILE*/ | xlate lower 41-7f 40 ' ' , /* Translate to lowercase, and get */ , /*rid of punctuation*/ '| a: count words lines', /* Count words and lines*/ '| split', /* Put one word per record */ '| sort count',/* Sort unique with a count of dups */ '| b: count lines',/* Count the number of unique words */ '| specs 1-10 1 11-* 15', /* Format the sorted records*/ '| f: fanin', /* Make sure summary lines at end */ '| literal Times UsedWord',/* Write a header */ '| console', /* Display it */ '?', 'a:', /* Process the word and line count */ '| specs /Number of lines: / 1 words2 next write', '/Total number of words: / 1 words1 next', '| f:', '?', 'b:', /* Process the unique word count */ '| specs /Total number of unique words: / 1 words1 next', '| f:' exit RC The City of Milwaukee is subject to Wisconsin Statutes related to public records. Unless otherwise exempted from the public records law, senders and receivers of City email should presume that the email are subject to release upon request, and to state records retention requirements. See City of Milwaukee full email disclaimer at www.milwaukee.gov/email_disclaimer.
Re: search a file for 2 character strings
Wilson, Roger wrote: I am trying to write a rexx exec that counts the number occurrences of 2 strings of characters. Copy it over to Linux and grep '[C|N]798' myfile.txt -- Jack J. Woehr# Reality is unpredictable, and no amount of computer technology http://www.well.com/~jax # is going to change that. - David Brooks, conservative pundit, http://www.softwoehr.com # The God That Fails, 2009-12-31 New York Times
Re: search a file for 2 character strings
Roger, If you want, I will send you a copy of my SEARCH package. It will handle the problem quite nicely. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wilson, Roger Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: search a file for 2 character strings I am trying to write a rexx exec that counts the number occurrences of 2 strings of characters. I could like to search for N798 and C798 Right now I just do the look at the unique characters results. This is what I have: /* WORDUSE EXEC -- Word Use Analyzer */ parse arg fid 'pipe (endchar ?)', '' PLOG PRINT W, /* READ THE FILE*/ | xlate lower 41-7f 40 ' ' , /* Translate to lowercase, and get */ , /*rid of punctuation*/ '| a: count words lines', /* Count words and lines*/ '| split', /* Put one word per record */ '| sort count',/* Sort unique with a count of dups */ '| b: count lines',/* Count the number of unique words */ '| specs 1-10 1 11-* 15', /* Format the sorted records*/ '| f: fanin', /* Make sure summary lines at end */ '| literal Times UsedWord',/* Write a header */ '| console', /* Display it */ '?', 'a:', /* Process the word and line count */ '| specs /Number of lines: / 1 words2 next write', '/Total number of words: / 1 words1 next', '| f:', '?', 'b:', /* Process the unique word count */ '| specs /Total number of unique words: / 1 words1 next', '| f:' exit RC The City of Milwaukee is subject to Wisconsin Statutes related to public records. Unless otherwise exempted from the public records law, senders and receivers of City email should presume that the email are subject to release upon request, and to state records retention requirements. See City of Milwaukee full email disclaimer at www.milwaukee.gov/email_disclaimer.
Re: search a file for 2 character strings
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Roger, If you want, I will send you a copy of my SEARCH package. It will handle the problem quite nicely. But how much fun is THAT on a Friday afternoon???
Re: search a file for 2 character strings
I think that's: 'PIPE PLOG PRINT W | split | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | count lines | ANSWER TEXT A' isn't it? And that assumes that xN798y should be counted. If not: 'PIPE PLOG PRINT W | split | nlocate 5 | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | count lines | ANSWER TEXT A' On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote: PIPE plog print w | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | answer text a
Re: search a file for 2 character strings
Could very well be. I didn't read the requirements very closely. Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. ==-Original Message- ==From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On ==Behalf Of P S ==Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:38 PM ==To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU ==Subject: Re: search a file for 2 character strings == ==I think that's: == =='PIPE PLOG PRINT W | split | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | count lines | ==ANSWER TEXT A' == ==isn't it? And that assumes that xN798y should be counted. If not: == =='PIPE PLOG PRINT W | split | nlocate 5 | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | count ==lines | ANSWER TEXT A' == ==On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov ==wrote: == PIPE plog print w | all /N798/ ! /C798/ | answer text a
Focus User Program Available
Hi, While upgrading to the latest release of Focus, a COBOL program that I wrote in 1989 to shutdown Focus Simultaneous Update 'sink' machines from a client machine stopped working. Since we no longer have a COBOL compiler on CMS, getting this program to work again was unlikely. I have recreated the program in Assembler, and if there are any other Focus shops who would like a copy, please contact me directly. Peter The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
Re: The return of the mainframe....
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:13 -0600, Rich Smrcina wrote: On 01/15/2010 08:01 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 (watch for line wrap) Did the mainframe leave? In terms of mind share, then yes, it did leave. Many pundits said it was moribund and obsolete. Now, what with consolidation fever, the z is showing that visualization on it is superior to Intel. It still has a problem with initial entry cost vs. Intel. And let's not even talk about z/OS vs. Linux. -- John McKown Maranatha!
Re: The return of the mainframe....
On 01/15/2010 08:01 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 (watch for line wrap) Did the mainframe leave? -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
The return of the mainframe....
Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 (watch for line wrap) -- Dave Jones V/Soft www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: The return of the mainframe....
Initial entry cost is quickly overcome by calculating Total Cost of Ownership (TCO). And you have to include *all* the time spent by *all* the people to maintain an Intel farm PLUS retraining, software and desktop support costs. Les John McKown wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:13 -0600, Rich Smrcina wrote: On 01/15/2010 08:01 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 (watch for line wrap) Did the mainframe leave? In terms of mind share, then yes, it did leave. Many pundits said it was moribund and obsolete. Now, what with consolidation fever, the z is showing that visualization on it is superior to Intel. It still has a problem with initial entry cost vs. Intel. And let's not even talk about z/OS vs. Linux.
Re: The return of the mainframe....
On 1/16/10 02:17 John McKown said: On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 20:13 -0600, Rich Smrcina wrote: On 01/15/2010 08:01 PM, Dave Jones wrote: Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 Did the mainframe leave? In terms of mind share, then yes, it did leave. Many pundits said it was moribund and obsolete. Now, what with consolidation fever, the z is showing that visualization on it is superior to Intel. It still has a problem with initial entry cost vs. Intel. And let's not even talk about z/OS vs. Linux. As one who is struggling to run CAD/CAM on an Intel-powered laptop, I can assure you that visualization using z/Series resources is _much_ superior, but I suspect you meant virtualization, so you were right either way. ;-) -Chip-
