Re: VM to zLinux Remote Execution

2011-07-27 Thread Victor Ochoa Avila
In my case, the access through the 3270 console of Linux guests is safe.

Since I have incorporated the protection of a password protected by ESM. And
additionally use Operations Manager to access the consoles and the product also
provides an authentication mechanism to allow access to consoles. So only
authorized personnel can access.

Using a console management tool is not only limited to sending commands to
the linux guest, you can additionally detect command responses and take actions
based on these responses. That can range from a simple command, to something
more complex as sending an email or a modification to the virtual machine
dynamically.

You could even send a script  to linux guests through console 3270.

In my case I use it for shutdown/startup of applications linux from cms.

Obviously this helps my case, but if you want to edit files on linux or use
panels that is not the solution.

Regards and Have a great day.

-- 
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila
z/OS  z/VM systems programmer
Mexico, City.



2011/7/22 Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com

 Its not unprotected presuming you have a zvm ESM password protecting your
 console access using authenticated users.

 It does work remotely too provided you have a vm operations type product.

 Of course send should be protected and the ID that is secondary should be
 restricted as well.


 Marcy. Sent from my BlackBerry.


  *From*: Scott Rohling [mailto:scott.rohl...@gmail.com]
 *Sent*: Friday, July 22, 2011 05:27 PM

 *To*: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject*: Re: [IBMVM] VM to zLinux Remote Execution

 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Marcy Cortes 
 marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:

 Another option would be a CP SEND command from a VM user that was SECUSER
 to the linux console.  You have to alter /etc/inittab to have root logged in
 at boot.


 It makes security auditors drool and convulse if you do that..  an open
 console with root access.   So anyone with SEND priv can be root.  gasp
 REXEC at least does authentication (unencrypted though it may be)

 This 'is' a nice simple way to talk to a local Linux from CMS in a pinch
 though..  you will need an EXEC to do the CP SEND so that Address Command
 can be used and not have it all uppercased.   (and set secuser or observer
 to see the output).  I've done this on occasion to diagnose or fix network
 issues when we can't get in via ssh.   But I normally 'login' using the same
 method (send root - send password -- which glows like a theatre marquee on
 your own console) - rather than have root logged in automatically.   Then
 start sending commands -- then finish with 'exit'.   You also need to know
 the root (or other user) password though, which you don't if root is
 automatically logged in.

 This also (obviously) does not work 'remote' --  only when on the same
 lpar.

 I think I've used up my parentheses quota..

 Scott Rohling






 Marcy.  Sent from my BlackBerry.


 - Original Message -
 From: Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) [mailto:
 larry.dav...@hp.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 04:36 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM to zLinux Remote Execution

 Glad to here


 Larry Davis


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:26 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: VM to zLinux Remote Execution

 How about that.  It is there, just like you said.
 I kept looking for REXEC(D) in the Network Service Configuration panel.
 Then opening port 512 in the firewall of the Linux machine.

 And then adding the client machine (VM) to HOSTNAMES on Linux solved the
 security problem.

 However, I didn't have to install anything.  tcpd was already there in
 SLES 11 SP 1.  But that could have been due to the patterns I selected at
 install time.

 So everything is working finefor now.

 Thanks

 Tom Duerbusch
 THD Consulting

  Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) larry.dav...@hp.com
 7/22/2011 1:07 PM 
 The service is called exec in xinetd and it is located in /usr/sbin/tcpd
 I had to install it from the repository it was not there by default.
 Try looking for exec or tcpd in the repository

 Larry Davis


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 2:02 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: VM to zLinux Remote Execution

 I've searched for the basic REXEC daemon for zSeries SLES 11, but I
 couldn't find anything.  I could have been looking in the wrong place.

 Tom Duerbusch
 THD Consulting

  Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability) larry.dav...@hp.com
 7/22/2011 12:34 PM 
 REXEC is available in Linux but you will get Auditors screaming about it.
 We got a wavier at our site.
 You can use IPTABLES to restrict REXEC access from/to certain systems.

 Larry Davis


 

VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Gentry, Steve
I'm attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area where it
will be held.  The 1739 N. High Street  address doesn't make sense when
compared to the links provided on the workshop web page.  There are no
addresses provided for any of the hotels.  Googleing wasn't much help.
So, if anyone, whether attending or not, is familiar with the area,
could you provide some directions.  You can respond on or off  line.

Thanks,

Steve



Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Neale Ferguson
The OSU Union building is in High Street. Here are the directions from the 
website. They are correct as we are there now:

http://ohiounion.osu.edu/visit_the_union/directions


On 7/27/11 12:22 PM, Gentry, Steve steve.gen...@westernsouthernlife.com 
wrote:

I'm attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area where it will 
be held.  The 1739 N. High Street  address doesn't make sense when compared to 
the links provided on the workshop web page.  There are no addresses provided 
for any of the hotels.  Googleing wasn't much help. So, if anyone, whether 
attending or not, is familiar with the area, could you provide some directions. 
 You can respond on or off  line.
Thanks,
Steve



Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Neale Ferguson
BTW I will be tweeting (or trying to anyway) using the #vmworkshop tag during 
the week.


On 7/27/11 12:22 PM, Gentry, Steve steve.gen...@westernsouthernlife.com 
wrote:

I'm attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area where it will 
be held.  The 1739 N. High Street  address doesn't make sense when compared to 
the links provided on the workshop web page.  There are no addresses provided 
for any of the hotels.  Googleing wasn't much help. So, if anyone, whether 
attending or not, is familiar with the area, could you provide some directions. 
 You can respond on or off  line.
Thanks,
Steve



Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Rich Smrcina

On 07/27/2011 11:22 AM, Gentry, Steve wrote:


I’m attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area where it will be held. 
The 1739 N. High Street address doesn’t make sense when compared to the links provided 
on the workshop web page. There are no addresses provided for any of the hotels. 
Googleing wasn’t much help. So, if anyone, whether attending or not, is familiar with 
the area, could you provide some directions. You can respond on or off line.


Thanks,

Steve


I put the address of the University Plaza Hotel into Google Maps and it came 
right up:

3110 Olentangy River Road, Columbus, OH

--
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

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Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Elliott
 I'm attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area
 where it will be held. The 1739 N. High Street address doesn't
 make sense when compared to the links provided on the workshop
 web page. There are no addresses provided for any of the
 hotels. Googleing wasn't much help. So, if anyone, whether
 attending or not, is familiar with the area, could you provide
 some directions. You can respond on or off line.

Steve:

The OSU web site is http://ohiounion.osu.edu/. I don't understand
what you mean about the address not making sense, as that is the
address of the Union building.

University Plaza - http://www.universityplazaosu.com/
Varsity Inn North - http://www.varsityinnosunorth.com/
Blackwell Inn - http://www.theblackwell.com/
Hilton -
http://www.hiltongardeninn.com/en/gi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=CMHUAGI
Hyatt Place - http://columbusosu.place.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/place/

Jim


Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Gentry, Steve
Thank you all for your help.  Coordinates plugged in.  Nav Computer is
calculating fastest path and alt. path.
The jump to light speed will occur later this afternoon.
Steve


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Jim Elliott
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:48 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM workshop at OSU

 I'm attending this workshop and I am not familiar with the area
 where it will be held. The 1739 N. High Street address doesn't
 make sense when compared to the links provided on the workshop
 web page. There are no addresses provided for any of the
 hotels. Googleing wasn't much help. So, if anyone, whether
 attending or not, is familiar with the area, could you provide
 some directions. You can respond on or off line.

Steve:

The OSU web site is http://ohiounion.osu.edu/. I don't understand
what you mean about the address not making sense, as that is the
address of the Union building.

University Plaza - http://www.universityplazaosu.com/
Varsity Inn North - http://www.varsityinnosunorth.com/
Blackwell Inn - http://www.theblackwell.com/
Hilton -
http://www.hiltongardeninn.com/en/gi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=CMHUAGI
Hyatt Place - http://columbusosu.place.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/place/

Jim


Re: VM workshop at OSU

2011-07-27 Thread Rich Smrcina

Wait, no site-to-site transport?  Oh, maybe next year...

On 07/27/2011 01:38 PM, Gentry, Steve wrote:

Thank you all for your help.  Coordinates plugged in.  Nav Computer is
calculating fastest path and alt. path.
The jump to light speed will occur later this afternoon.
Steve





--
Rich Smrcina
Velocity Software, Inc.
http://www.velocitysoftware.com

Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org
WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY