Re: z/VM user group in RTP, NC?
There's SPARTA... http://www.spartanc.org/ On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Pamela Christina in Sunny Endicott NY chris...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: The list of User Groups that I know about are linked from the events calendar page, http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/ (in the right column there's a link to User Groups). User Groups list: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/usergrps.html So far, nothing in RTP/RDU that i know about. If you find something let me know so we can add to the list. Thanks. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Backula on Linux
I wonder how many people have Backula servers named Scott. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Brian Ferguson brian.fergu...@eds.com wrote: I've got a user who's trying to get Backula running on a Debian 5 system. But we are not having a lot of luck. Anybody here have any ideas on resources I can point my guy to for 'VM' tricks? He can't seem to get backula to 'append' correctly to a 3590 tape volume. Brian -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: August SHARE location?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Hodge, Robert L robert.l.ho...@lmco.com wrote: Second paragraph at www.share.org February 27 = very, VERY early August -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: IBM z/196 and AS/400
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tom Duerbusch duerbus...@stlouiscity.com wrote: This being a pseudo Friday in the USA due to Thanksgiving holidays Does anyone have any experience with the AS/400 support in the z/196 box? Yep, I know it is a separate processor/memory and connected somehow, in some sort of internal networkbut.. Did I miss something? ISTR that the Power blades supported AIX but not iOS. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: IBM z/196 and AS/400
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, McBride, Catherine cmcbr...@kable.com wrote: Power Blades support IOS But do they on a zBX? I don't see that in the docs I'm looking at (of course, it may have changed, too). -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: IBM z/196 and AS/400
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM, McBride, Catherine cmcbr...@kable.com wrote: IOS runs fine on the PS701 Express Blade server which is the Blade shipped with zBX. However, the integrated management modules (Zmanager) may not yet support IOS. Right, that was my point. Without real support, it's just a blade, not something usable. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! Don’t hold your breath. The 3270 emulator market is mature and Linux folks are not that likely to pay money for something that they can get for free. Besides, Attachmate has one of the worst products out there – bloated, confusing, and buggy as heck. I'd be afraid to see what they'd do to a Linux product... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Highlighting in Rexx
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Chip Davis c...@aresti.com wrote: I haven't seen a real 3278/9 in years, so I've discovered that there is a great variance in the ability of TN3270 emulators to properly respect/interpret those attribute characters, especially color. Huh? If it don't do 3270 datastreams, how is it a 3270 emulator -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Strange performance problem
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Michel Beaulieu beaulieumic...@live.ca wrote: One situation I had was SMTP caught in a tight loop after a spool full condition. In that case, SMTP was looping on CPU 00 giving almost 100% CPU busy on CPU 00. The other CPUs were normally busy. I hope you called that in...that would be a bug. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Moving On
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote: Irish Georgian Society? Ibm Global Services. Or whatever it's called this week. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: z196 = z10?
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Jim Elliott jelli...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Close. The z stands for near-zero downtime. Shouldn't that by System 9, then? or System 0.01? :-) -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting
Jack Woehr wrote: The Unix manuals are fabulous. They're not corporate expiatiation of contractual responsibility. They're the heart of the developer being poured out in front of you. I'm not sure fabulous would be my description -- barely usable is more like it in far too many cases. The quality varies wildly, and is very often completely lacking in usable examples. It was over three decades ago that my father said My kingdom for an example! when trying to use a UNIX man page, and AFAICT, the situation hasn't changed much. They may represent the heart of the developer, but (s)he is too often the wrong person to be documenting the beast -- (s)he *knows* it inside and out, makes too many assumptions, and may or may not be a capable writer. There's a reason that technical writers exist, and it isn't because developers are lazy... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: rexx stem
pass meaning what? Insert it into the file? On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having writers (programmers) block today. Is there a way to pass a REXX stem to XEDIT? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: rexx stem
Ah. You likely want to invoke XEDIT with a named PROFILE, then; the named PROFILE will use Pipes to reach back into the previous Rexx level and fetch the stem. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: well I've created a stem in REXX. I want to call XEDIT to present a menu using the data from that stem. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:26 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: pass meaning what? Insert it into the file? On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.comwrote: I'm having writers (programmers) block today. Is there a way to pass a REXX stem to XEDIT? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Artical should be read 'zNEXT'
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.sys-con.com/node/1453414Some might have already have additional information about these machines, care to share? Hmm...Anyone care to violate their NDA and risk never hearing from IBM again, unless it's from their lawyers? Note that this article is from Maureen O'Gara, who bears the same resemblance to a journalist that an 8086 does to a z10. She's consistently snide for no reason, and makes things up as she goes along when she doesn't have the facts. Really not worth wasting time reading. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: DMS/CMS.
You COULD replace it with a small module (compiled Rexx?) that does: - CP MSG somemachine I used DMSCMS, tell Richard to have me killed! - invokes the renamed DMSCMS module (or whatever it's called -- I forget) On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Is there any good way, other than making it unavailable, that I can tell if anyone is using DMS/CMS? It is another legacy product that I suspect is no longer in use here. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: RFEX EXEC Question
SLEEP is a CP command. When you use ADDRESS COMMAND, you say I know what I'm doing here, I'll prefix any commands with CP or EXEC as appropriate. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: I have a REXX EXEC that process files in the reader. I begin the EXEC with: Address Command I have a sleep instruction that gets the following: 35 *-* SLEEP 30 SEC L SLEEP 30 SEC +++ RC(-3) +++ Also I have a sendfile instruction with the following results: O SENDFILE DH_VDUMP SM070710 Z To SYBLOG AT ZVM5VSE (LOG TYPE +++ RC(-3) +++ What am I missing? Thank you, Scott R Wandschneider Senior Systems Programmer|| Infocrossing, a Wipro Company scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com **Think Green - Please print responsibly** Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: can you make the CP ignore the # symbol?
It is but that's the good news -- no apologies necessary! A couple of ways (assuming default settings): - escape it: # will pass the # through (try it -- type x#y and you'll see x#y appear when you hit ENTER) - CP TERMINAL LINEND OFF (which will disable the # from being a linend entirely) - CP SET LINEDIT OFF (which will turn off all linediting symbols -- LINEND, LINEDEL, CHARDEL, ESCAPE, TABCHAR). I tend not to recommend this one because it's sort of a big hammer approach On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Daniel Tate daniel.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have urgent need to make it ignore that symbol and print it to the guest through a 3270 client. I am a z/VM beginner, so forgive me if this is something insanely simple. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?
Most-pack. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: one off full pack ? Scott Rohling On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Others great big big honking near full pack not full pack well-nigh full pack shaved full pack Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? How about: virtual full-pack Les Rob van der Heij wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Ok -- darn it. a 1 to END minidisk just doesn't have the same ring to it as 'full pack'. And it's another syllable to mumble.. ;-) Care for my pseudo full-pack terminology maybe? (sounds more official than almost full-pack) -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Query parent z/VM commands?
ISTR that DIAG 0 returns multiple levels of information for each layer until
you get back to the first level system. If so, won't that layer have the
info you want?
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.comwrote:
Thanks Kris for a quick answer, and also thanks to another for an off-line
reply. I do appreciate it.
However, I'm still not sure I have a solution. Let me describe the problem
a bit better. I'm trying to ascertain the location of resources in the
System z hierarchy - that is CECs have LPARs, and LPARs have systems which
may be Linux or z/VM, and z/VM systems have systems, which may also be Linux
or z/VM (I know there are a lot of other possibilities, but these are the
most interesting). I'd like to do as much of this as possible on Linux
rather than from z/VM, thus the request for CP commands, not CMS (so I'm
even more hesitant to use CPHOST which is a z/VM add-on).
I can get a lot of information from /proc/sysinfo. For example, on a third
level Linux, the following data are interesting:
# grep LPAR Name: /proc/sysinfo | awk '{print $3}'
LVM1
# grep VM01 Name: /proc/sysinfo | awk '{print $3}'
VM140
# grep VM00 Name: /proc/sysinfo | awk '{print $3}'
ZVMMAPLX
I know the system is running on the LPAR named LVM1. Because there is a
VM01 entry, I can assume this is a second level z/VM running on the user ID
named VM140. Also I know the third level Linux is running on the user ID
ZVMMAPLX. I can also determine the CEC's machine type, model number and
serial number with other data in /proc/sysinfo.
So that tells almost the entire hierarchy *except* for the system
identifier of the first level z/VM system:
CECs
|
+-mach-type-X-model-num-Y-serial-num-Z
|
+-LPARs
|
+-LVM1
|
+first-level-zVMs
|
+-?
|
+-second-level-z/VMs
|
+-VM140
|
+-third-level-Linuxes
|
+-ZVMMAPLX
Neither /proc/sysinfo, DIAG 0, nor the STSIUSE EXEC seem to supply that.
Any other ideas other than CPHOST? (I could require this value as a
parameter, but it would be more convenient and reliable if it could be
ascertained.) Thanks in advance.
Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061
P.S. Typing out the hierarchy has shown to me that I may be mixing user IDs
with system identifiers - perhaps I *do* have the entire hierarchy in that I
know there is one z/VM running on the LPAR LVM1. However, we usually
remember z/VM systems by system identifier, not by LPAR name.
--
zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Query parent z/VM commands?
Ah, that's it, STSI. I knew something gave you the multiple levels!
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Martin Zimelis martin.zime...@gmail.comwrote:
Mike,
On more recent levels of z/VM and the hardware, you might want to be
looking at the results of the STSI (STore System Information) hardware
instruction. It produces a level-by-level description of the hardware
environment, just not as nicely formatted as what proc/sysinfo gives you.
Marty
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.comwrote:
zMAN,
ISTR that DIAG 0 returns multiple levels of information for each layer
until you get
back to the first level system. If so, won't that layer have the info
you want?
Not sure. The code snippet that Kris appended returns the following on the
second level z/VM in question:
== diag0
VM/ESA .. MAINT \
G{...ZVM/ESA {...VM140
\ G{...e
== type diag0 exec
/* */
DiagInfo=diag(0)
address '' 'PIPE VAR DiagInfo|Deblock 32|XLATE *-* 00-3F .|CONS'
I see the system identifier (or probably the user ID, which happen to be
the same) of the second level z/VM, but I don't see any info on the first
level z/VM (which happens to be LPAR=LVM1, System_Identifier=POKDEV61).
Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061
--
zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Hillgang reminder
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel P. Martin dmar...@gizmoworks.comwrote: See, kids, this is what happens when you try to handle correspondence under the influence of cold medicine... Nothing going on in here. Please move along. *sigh* I was going to say, FSVO 'directly'.
Re: z/VM/ Linux Systems Programmer Opportunity with Compuware Corporation top Mainframe z/VM Systems Programmer
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com wrote: Should everyone be precluded from seeing help wanted ads here because of some (a few, I hope) companies' (silly, IMHO) policies? Do those companies also forbid their employees from reading newspaper classified sections or visiting help wanted sites on their home computers? Do the companies assign minders to monitor all lists subscribed by employees, or analyze all incoming email for forbidden thoughts and topics? Do they really think policies like that HELP employee retention? More people likely see these notices here than would on Velocity's Web site, so this seems a better place for them. A better solution seems to be for people working at companies which think they can censor information their employees see to read the list on home computers. I don't have a dog in this fight; I'm neither hiring nor looking to be hired, but companies attempting to impose discussion list restrictions like this seem ... foolish, and that's being kind. Sure, but pointing out that it's foolish is as, um, pointless as pointing out that email disclaimers saying If you aren't the intended recipient, please claw your eyes out and kill yourself are pointless (he pointed out pointedly). If nothing else, Mike's warning makes it clear to any PHBs reading this that this sort of thing is not the norm and that they shouldn't suddenly forbid reading a useful technical list because of a single posting.
Re: Check for User...
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.comwrote: What’s the best way to check: 1) UserID is valid (a user on this system) 2) UserID is logged on (or not) 1) LINK user (with no other operands) 2) QUERY USER user
Re: Zombie RDR file
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:09 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: Check the directory entry for MUCOPER and if the CONSOLE statement has the word MUCOPER on the end of it, remove it and log MUCOPER off and on. It will stop spooling it's console, and that file will go away and never come back. Unlikely to be the problem -- same SPOOLid. The file is probably in an invalid state. A cold start may be required (after [and before] SPXTAPE).
Re: Checking if a CMS disk has changed
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.comwrote: I would like to know if there is a CMS command/program out there that can quickly determine if a CMS disk has been changed? A program could look at the timestamp in the ADT (ADTTS).
Re: Checking if a CMS disk has changed
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: If id did not re-access the disk, it would see the old FST which would not have any new timestamps. Good point, it would actually have to read blocks 3-5 of the disk. 16 bytes into block 3 is the number 4 or 5, indicating which block contains the current DIRECTOR file, and that file's timestamp is your answer. Still faster than a full reACCESS, though.
Re: Checking if a CMS disk has changed
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com wrote: It worked OK for me in my testing. Here is a REACC EXEC I have that makes mode 0 work: With the caveat, of course, that if the disk just happened not to have any mode 0 files on it BEFORE but *was* accessed (MODE0, and there is a new mode 0 files on the disk, this won't preserve the option. But that's not your fault, no way to tell.
Re: Question about VSE List
2010/3/9 Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.com Hello List. Someone know, the address (if still exist) from VSE ? I don't think I've seen any traffic in months.
Re: Question about machine type and model
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Daniel Allen dal...@serena.com wrote: In z/OS, the command 'D M=CPU' shows the machine type and model. In z/VSE, the command 'SIR' shows the machine type and model. I know the 'Q CPU' shows the machine type. Is there any way I can find the model under z/VM ? Don't recall ever caring, but if anything would tell you, I'd think DIAG 0 would. BTW, that's CP QUERY CPUID, not Q CPU (not that Q CPU won't work, but for completeness). -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: So that you get the equivalent of SET OBSERVER instead of SET SECUSER. I think he meant, What use is it? The answer is that it's (sort of) a R/O SECUSER: you see the output but you can't do a CP SEND back. And OBSERVER output isn't quite tagged the same as SECUSER output (which I discovered to my frustration when it first came out).
Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: Off the top of my head: Secondary user - Can use CP SEND to the primary - Only sees console output of primary when primary is disconnected - Class G secondary can SEND only when primary is disconnected - Class C secondary can SEND at any time - Traffic to primary's *MSG connection is stopped while secondary is logged on Observer - Cannot SEND to the observed virtual machine (observee) - Sees all console traffic without regard to connect/disconnect status of the observee - Does not interfere with observee's *MSG traffic And as you note, the programming characteristics via *MSG are different for the observer and the secondary user. Thanks. I hope it didn't sound like I thought OBSERVER was broken -- my post was just to hopefully help others not make the same assumption I did, that it was JUST a R/O SECUSER. It's a nice facility. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.comwrote: Well , I told me my automation guy to use VMOPER to trap messages starting with ‘HCP’ and ending with an ‘E’ and I got an unexpected side effect. After XAUTOLOGing the user, It did trap the HCPLNM108E message that indicates the minidisk was not linked but it also trapped some other messages at IPL CMS time. The SYSPROF EXEC invokes another EXEC that does a bunch of accesses. Now some of those minidisk don’t exist (it’s an old EXEC). I see on VM:Operator console: 14:17:24 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 31B accessed as H/H SYSCOR Technical Minidisk. 14:17:24 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 49E accessed as I/I SYSCOR Disk 1. 14:17:24 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 59E accessed as J/J SYSCOR Disk 2. 14:17:24 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 491 accessed as K/K SYSCOR Production JCL. 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 317 accessed as N/N DITTO for VSE and VM. 14:17:25 VSEMAINT *8 HCPQVD040E Device 0318 does not exist 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 319 accessed as P/P Program Products. 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 219 accessed as Q/Q Program Products (old). 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 31D accessed as U/U SYSCOR OEM Programs. 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 31C accessed as V/V SYSCOR Operations. 14:17:25 VSEMAINTB*8 Mdisk 31A accessed as X/X SYSCOR User Installed Applicat 14:17:25 VSEMAINT *8 HCPQVD040E Device 031E does not exist Those HCLQVD040E messages got trapped. Now, if I logoff that user and actually logon to user, I don’t see the HCPQVD040E messages?? Now, I’m debating to just trap the HCPLNM108E, but will I miss out on any other error messages that could appear right after LOGON? Maybe I should create dummy 318/31E to get rid of problem? You did notice that the HCPQVD msgs were from VEMAINT, NOT VSEMAINTB?
Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.comwrote: The user I played with was user VSEMAINT. I changed the CONSOLE statement to CONSOLE 0009 3215 T VMOPER and then I XAUTOLOGED user VSEMAINT on. I chose this user because all the VSEs have a R/O LINK to its 191 disk. Inside the PROFILE EXEC it checks userid and then IPL’s off VSE SYSRES pack Ah, right, notwithstanding my typo, VSEMAINTB would be 9 bytes. Hard to tell what it did remotely, though!
Re: cp display command
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Westlund, Mats (Mainframe servers) mats.westl...@hp.com wrote: how can I rewrite this display command d t0.50;base00 so it uses the content of register 0 as a pointer. You can't. The DISPLAY command faithfully follows the architecture -- to the detriment of usability.
Re: how to determine which vm holds link
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Hines, Bernard (MSFC-IS70)[UNITeS] bernard.hi...@nasa.gov wrote: Old system programmer taught me to link userid devddd devadd rr link dasdmgr a350 ab50 rr system responds DASD AB50 LINKED R/O; R/W BY 3 USERS Then issue Q link devadd q link ab50 system responds ZOSUSR19 A350 R/W, CLIMICA A00F R/W, CLMAFPRD 9004 R/W, VMRMAINT AB50 R/O That works for minidisks, but not so much for actual RDEVs. I believe the OP was trying to do something to the RDEV, like take it offline. So Q SYS is the better answer in this case.
Re: VM support and 9672
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: The absurdities of IBM's tactics to force hardware upgrades. Performance is relative. At my age, I don't perform as well as in my 20's. In my 20's mainframes didn't perform as well as a 9672 running Linux with an emulated z10 and z/VM. I guess it just depends on what you want to do. Your doubts about IBM licensing are well founded. Something really stinks there... Why is that absurd? Why does it stink? Are you suggesting that IBM should stock parts for long-dead machines that no serious company would want to run any more? Why? What's in it for them?
Re: ZVM console messages
What's the actual problem you're trying to solve? If this means you're working using OPERATOR, don't do that -- use another ID. OPERATOR is too powerful and too noisy (as you've noticed) due to other system messages.
Re: ZVM console messages
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:16 PM, ASIFF AMAHED asiff...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answers, but the only thing i want suppress is the messages when users logoff or logon from vterm , fills up the screen and sits there until the operator clears them up. i think CP TERM MORE 0 0 will do the trick. No i will never logoff the operator or work on it, c'mon guys. CP TERMINAL MORE 0 0 HOLD OFF is what I'd recommend.
Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: No - that's not true... Linux doesn't care about 3390 model numbers -- it takes the cylinders it's given and is happy. The reason that I would define Mod27's as 30050 cylinders (actually 30049) Is so that 3 3390-9 size minidisks (10016 cylinders) will fit perfectly. (so: 3x10016 = 30048 + 1 for cylinder 0 ) That's the only plausible reason I see for picking that particular number... Right, my guess is that someone said 27 = 3 x 9 = 3 x 10016 = 30048. Then they added one for cyl0, then they got confused about origin 0/origin 1 and wound up at 30050.
Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: Who's confused? A 3390-3 at 3339 cylinders, one for CP and an almost full pack mini disk is 3338 cylinders. So 3390-27 is 30051 cylinders. If you give the guest a pseudo full pack, that's minus one for CP, so 30050 I'm confused, that's who! Thanks. I knew something didn't smell right.
Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.govwrote: To quote the DS8000 Architecture and Implementation Redbook (SG24-6786, pg 101): If the number of cylinders specified is not an integral multiple of 1113 cylinders, then some space in the last allocated extent is wasted. For example, if you define 1114 or 3340 cylinders, 1112 cylinders are wasted. For maximum storage efficiency, you should consider allocating volumes that are exact multiples of 1113 cylinders. In fact, integral multiples of 3339 cylinders should be consider for future compatibility. That last sentence has always peaked my interest. 1112 cylinders are wasted -- out of 1114? That can't be right! Btw, piqued, not peaked.
Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Tom Rae tom_...@shaw.ca wrote: Not quite. Sounds like the DS8000 architecture allocates DASD in 3390 mod1-sized extents, so requesting a 1114 cylinder DASD results in the allocation of two 1113 cylinder extents. The first extent is fully utilized as the first 1113 cylinders of the requested DASD, but only the first cylinder of the second extent is used (as the last cylinder of the requested DASD) and the other 1112 cylinders are allocated but unusable. (nb extent is used because it seems to fit, but it's probably not the correct term...) Oh...of course. I was thinking that 1113 gets you 1113, and 1114 gets you 2. Which of course made no sense (because it was wrong!). Thanks.
Re: DB2 Server for VM with VMDSS enabled
Hmm, gotta point out that The abends can be avoided by changing the workload. sounds a lot like, Doc, it hurts when I do this! Then don't do that...
Re: Query CPOWNED
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Graeme Moss ib...@mossaustralia.com wrote: For z/VM 5.4, in manual CP Commands and Utilities, and in online help, the details of QUERY CPOWNED list 5 types of status Online and attached Reserved Online Online and not attached Offine My question is What does the status of 'Online' as oppossed to 'Online and attached' and 'Online and not attached' mean? Near as I can tell from looking at the code, there is no Online by itself. I think the HELP file is out of date.
Re: Hi everybody
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: Mario, that's an old version of VM you have running there now (as I am sure you already know...). I don't think it supports the CP SEND CP FTPGEST0 CLOSE CONS command that Scott has suggested. It does, but it may not support you-can-always-SEND-if-you-have-the-right-privilege-class. I don't remember when that came in. Making yourself the SECUSER for that ID (CP SET SECUSER FTPGEST0 *), then doing the CP SEND CP, then CP SET SECUSER FTPGEST0 OFF will work if not (with the right privilege class). We used to have a CPSEND EXEC that did that sequence, before the you-can-always-SEND-if-you-have-the-right-privilege-class enhancement.
Re: Hi everybody
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: It isn't a matter of trust, it is a matter of minimizing the risk of an accidental SHUTDOWN. Here MAINT does not have class A; however it does have class C. That allows it to use the SET PRIV * +A in order to issue class A commands such as Q CPDISKS, CPRELEASE and CPACCESS. By requiring that extra step of the SET PRIV, it heightens the awareness of the person to the fact that they now have extraordinary capabilities and responsibilities. Exactly. I'd argue that best practices (a term I hate) has even MAINT doing a CP SET PRIVCLAS * =BEG (unless that's disabled, of course) in its PROFILE EXEC, and then using a CLASS EXEC for privileged commands: CLASS A SHUTDOWN
Re: mixed text in CP SMSG
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Aisik Chang a829...@gmail.com wrote: It still does not come out with the mixed case: - 10:11:42 8 *-* address command 'CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3:' cpline CP SMSG ESATCP ALERT zVM-SEV3: Testing 10 *-* exit Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:42 ESATCP : 10:11:42 MAINT (3779) has issued command: ALERT ZVM-SEV3: TESTING - I used disg 8, but the same result. What's missing here ? I forget whether ESATCP uppercases input -- I suspect it does. This works for me: 'CP SM RSCS Q SYS' Link Line Name Status Type Addr LU Name Logmode Queueing snip call diag 8, 'SM RSCS Q sys' Location sys is not defined Same for ADDRESS COMMAND.
