Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
And don't forget the most overpriced 3270 product. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! Don’t hold your breath. The 3270 emulator market is mature and Linux folks are not that likely to pay money for something that they can get for free. Besides, Attachmate has one of the worst products out there – bloated, confusing, and buggy as heck. I'd be afraid to see what they'd do to a Linux product... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-draws-new-bid-of-22-apf- 3492629705.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=6asset=ccode= Well, at least Attachmate gets it wrt the importance of mainframes
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Attachment to acquire Novell http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-draws-new-bid-of-22-apf- 3492629705.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=6asset=ccode= Well, at least Attachmate gets it wrt the importance of mainframes
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
On 11/22/2010 at 11:36 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! Would you like some cheese with that whine? Sorry, couldn't resist. :) Mark Post
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Attachment to acquire Novell On 11/22/2010 at 11:36 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! Would you like some cheese with that whine? Sorry, couldn't resist. :) Mark Post Gouda. No brie! And __NO LIMBURGER__ unless you stay downwind! -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
x3270 takes a little getting used to, I'll admit. But, it is a good emulator. The man page is your friend. On 11/22/2010 10:36 AM, McKown, John wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. Mobile: 414-491-6001 Office: 262-392-3717 http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2011 - April 15-19, 2011 Colorado Springs, CO
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
X3270 is crude, granted. But it is consistent, and it is the only 3270 emulator that covers as many platforms. I have offered my $HOME/.x3270pro repeatedly (not here), though it is so old that I really don't remember all that is in it ... or why. This much I remember: F keys are PF keys, Alt-1 is PA1, Alt-2 is PA2, and there are several key combinations for Clear. After that, it gets pretty easy. The toughest part is dealing with the packaging, for which I blame dpkg and RPM. (Don't get me started.) I will happily send a copy off-list. X3270 works on every contemporary platform where X windows works, except maybe USS. (But there is an 'xterm' for USS, so ... who knows?) We're talking all Linux, plus Solaris, HPUX, presumably AIX, and certainly Windows (thanks to CYGWIN, and does not require CYGWIN's X server, but can use Hummingbird or Reflection (since we're talking about Attachmate)). -- R; On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:36, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Attachment to acquire Novell http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-draws-new-bid-of-22-apf- 3492629705.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=6asset=ccode= Well, at least Attachmate gets it wrt the importance of mainframes
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
I have a good setup for x3270. I'm always open for something better. No, I don't have the talent to do it myself. Reading RFCs and converting them to something useful is beyond my ability. Perhaps if I did a tcpdump and looked at the traffic, I'd have a better idea of how it works. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Attachment to acquire Novell X3270 is crude, granted. But it is consistent, and it is the only 3270 emulator that covers as many platforms. I have offered my $HOME/.x3270pro repeatedly (not here), though it is so old that I really don't remember all that is in it ... or why. This much I remember: F keys are PF keys, Alt-1 is PA1, Alt-2 is PA2, and there are several key combinations for Clear. After that, it gets pretty easy. The toughest part is dealing with the packaging, for which I blame dpkg and RPM. (Don't get me started.) I will happily send a copy off-list. X3270 works on every contemporary platform where X windows works, except maybe USS. (But there is an 'xterm' for USS, so ... who knows?) We're talking all Linux, plus Solaris, HPUX, presumably AIX, and certainly Windows (thanks to CYGWIN, and does not require CYGWIN's X server, but can use Hummingbird or Reflection (since we're talking about Attachmate)). -- R; On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:36, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Attachment to acquire Novell http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-draws-new-bid-of-22-apf- 3492629705.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=6asset=ccode= Well, at least Attachmate gets it wrt the importance of mainframes
Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From my personal viewpoint, I will hope that it means they may see a need for a more advanced 3270 emulator for the Linux desktop. x3270 works, but is a PITA to configure, IMO. I'd be willing to pay Windows prices for an excellent TN3270E emulator. Please, no wine! Don’t hold your breath. The 3270 emulator market is mature and Linux folks are not that likely to pay money for something that they can get for free. Besides, Attachmate has one of the worst products out there – bloated, confusing, and buggy as heck. I'd be afraid to see what they'd do to a Linux product... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
