Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-10-01 Thread Stephen Frazier

I have been using it for at least 10 years. I think it has been there as long 
as account records has.

Scott Rohling wrote:


So I guess it's on MAINT 193 :-) Thanks to everybody for the 
replies..  I wonder how long ACCOUNT MODULE has been out there -- I 
coded up an EXEC to do the tallying some time ago -- definitely not the 
first time I found myself having reinvented a wheel :-)


Thanks again!

Scott Rohling



--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
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Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-10-01 Thread Tom Duerbusch
It use to be part of the chargable product:  CMS Utilities.  I think CMS 
Utilities became bundled in with VM (no additional charge) as of VM/ESA.  

It was chargeable in VM/SP, and forget about VM/XA.
I don't recall it in the VM/370 BSE days.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/1/2008 10:24 AM 
I have been using it for at least 10 years. I think it has been there as long 
as account records has.

Scott Rohling wrote:
 
 So I guess it's on MAINT 193 :-) Thanks to everybody for the 
 replies..  I wonder how long ACCOUNT MODULE has been out there -- I 
 coded up an EXEC to do the tallying some time ago -- definitely not the 
 first time I found myself having reinvented a wheel :-)
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Scott Rohling
 

-- 
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us


Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-10-01 Thread Kris Buelens
It all started with IPF, the thing that was added in the VM/SP days, where
you could order a naked VM, or a VM SIPO (System Installation Productivity
Option ?), that had IPF as prereq, and you got quite some pre-installed
stuff.  Remember VMUTIL,DISKACNT,  friends these servers ware new than,
WAKEUP was the heart of VMUTIL, and ACCOUNT was used by DISKACNT.  Other
tools where born then too: DIRMAP, SADT, DEVTYPE, FLIST, BROWSE, all part of
IPF.
With IPF came also panels, this section of IPF became a bit later ISPF.  The
IPF panels gave VM a look like TSO has now, one could indeed enter things
like  1.2.3 to end up in e.g. FLIST, or x.y.z to XEDIT something...
VM's command base is too easy, and customers didn't use these IPF panels.  I
guess that with VM/ESA IPF died, no more panels, but also no more a
pre-installed VMUTIL/DISKACNT/SYSWATCH/  The modules became CUF (CMS
Utilities Feature), a billabe VM/ESA feature.  Later the CUF stuff became
part of the VM base, I guess with the arrival of z/VM, an incompatible
change: CUF got installed on the Y-disk; in z/VM some landed on the S-disk,
others on MAINT 193.

2008/10/1 Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It use to be part of the chargable product:  CMS Utilities.  I think CMS
 Utilities became bundled in with VM (no additional charge) as of VM/ESA.

 It was chargeable in VM/SP, and forget about VM/XA.
 I don't recall it in the VM/370 BSE days.

 Tom Duerbusch
 THD Consulting

  Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/1/2008 10:24 AM 
 I have been using it for at least 10 years. I think it has been there as
 long as account records has.

 Scott Rohling wrote:
 
  So I guess it's on MAINT 193 :-) Thanks to everybody for the
  replies..  I wonder how long ACCOUNT MODULE has been out there -- I
  coded up an EXEC to do the tallying some time ago -- definitely not the
  first time I found myself having reinvented a wheel :-)
 
  Thanks again!
 
  Scott Rohling
 

 --
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
 email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-10-01 Thread dave
And for those situations where the ACCOUNT MODULE doesn't do
what is needed, one can always use the CMS Pipelines
ACNTDIFF, ACNTTALLY, and ACNTXPAND stages to process disk
accounting data. The SPECS stage could could also be
employed to tally and compute values from the accounting
fields in the accounting records.

The ACNTxxx stages are documented in the 'pipeline news'
file, found on the CMS Pipelines web page:
http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline

DJ
- Original Message -
From: Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:48:06 -0400

 It all started with IPF, the thing that was added in the
 VM/SP days, where you could order a naked VM, or a VM SIPO
 (System Installation Productivity Option ?), that had IPF
 as prereq, and you got quite some pre-installed stuff. 
 Remember VMUTIL,DISKACNT,  friends these servers ware new
 than, WAKEUP was the heart of VMUTIL, and ACCOUNT was used
 by DISKACNT.  Other tools where born then too: DIRMAP,
 SADT, DEVTYPE, FLIST, BROWSE, all part of IPF.
 With IPF came also panels, this section of IPF became a
 bit later ISPF.  The IPF panels gave VM a look like TSO
 has now, one could indeed enter things like  1.2.3 to end
 up in e.g. FLIST, or x.y.z to XEDIT something... VM's
 command base is too easy, and customers didn't use these
 IPF panels.  I guess that with VM/ESA IPF died, no more
 panels, but also no more a pre-installed
 VMUTIL/DISKACNT/SYSWATCH/  The modules became CUF (CMS
 Utilities Feature), a billabe VM/ESA feature.  Later the
 CUF stuff became part of the VM base, I guess with the
 arrival of z/VM, an incompatible change: CUF got installed
 on the Y-disk; in z/VM some landed on the S-disk, others
 on MAINT 193.
 
 2008/10/1 Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  It use to be part of the chargable product:  CMS
  Utilities.  I think CMS Utilities became bundled in with
 VM (no additional charge) as of VM/ESA. 
  It was chargeable in VM/SP, and forget about VM/XA.
  I don't recall it in the VM/370 BSE days.
 
  Tom Duerbusch
  THD Consulting
 
   Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/1/2008
  10:24 AM  I have been using it for at least 10 years.
  I think it has been there as long as account records
 has. 
  Scott Rohling wrote:
  
   So I guess it's on MAINT 193 :-) Thanks to
   everybody for the replies..  I wonder how long ACCOUNT
   MODULE has been out there -- I coded up an EXEC to do
   the tallying some time ago -- definitely not the first
  time I found myself having reinvented a wheel :-) 
   Thanks again!
  
   Scott Rohling
  
 
  --
  Stephen Frazier
  Information Technology Unit
  Oklahoma Department of Corrections
  3400 Martin Luther King
  Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
  Tel.: (405) 425-2549
  Fax: (405) 425-2554
  Pager: (405) 690-1828
  email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Colleen Brown
Colleen M Brown 
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 
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If you are referring to the account records generated by CP you can use 
ACCOUNT MODULE to process type 1, 2 and 3 records.  HELP ACCOUNT should 
get you information on it.

Colleen M Brown 
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 



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Disk accounting records...what to do with them.

Is there anything in VM that will allow you to process these records and 
if so where and what is it.

I've been asked to do something like offload these records and clean up 
accounting's A/191 disk.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks

BTW, also how about the EREP records, we do process the z/OS records would 
it also be a duplication to process the EREP records form z/VM?



Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I see ACCOUNT HELPCMS and it sounds great -- but no ACCOUNT MODULE..  Is
this provided as part of the base z/VM product?

Thanks -

Scott Rohling

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 If you are referring to the account records generated by CP you can use
 ACCOUNT MODULE to process type 1, 2 and 3 records.  HELP ACCOUNT should get
 you information on it.

 Colleen M Brown
 IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service


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  Disk accounting records...what to do with them.

 Is there anything in VM that will allow you to process these records and if
 so where and what is it.

 I've been asked to do something like offload these records and clean up
 accounting's A/191 disk.

 Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 Thanks

 BTW, also how about the EREP records, we do process the z/OS records would
 it also be a duplication to process the EREP records form z/VM?




Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
Look on MAINT 193.
 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 




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I see ACCOUNT HELPCMS and it sounds great -- but no ACCOUNT
MODULE..  Is this provided as part of the base z/VM product?

Thanks - 

Scott Rohling


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If you are referring to the account records generated by
CP you can use ACCOUNT MODULE to process type 1, 2 and 3 records.  HELP
ACCOUNT should get you information on it. 

Colleen M Brown   
IBM z/VM and Related Products Development and Service 



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Disk accounting records...what to do with them.

Is there anything in VM that will allow you to process these records and
if so where and what is it.

I've been asked to do something like offload these records and clean up
accounting's A/191 disk.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks

BTW, also how about the EREP records, we do process the z/OS records
would it also be a duplication to process the EREP records form z/VM?   






Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Thomas Kern
The ACCOUNT MODULE is on MAINT 193.

/Tom Kern


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wrote:

I see ACCOUNT HELPCMS and it sounds great -- but no ACCOUNT MODULE..  Is

this provided as part of the base z/VM product?

Thanks -

Scott Rohling


Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
It is on MAINT 193.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Scott Rohling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I see ACCOUNT HELPCMS and it sounds great -- but no ACCOUNT MODULE..  Is
 this provided as part of the base z/VM product?

 Thanks -

 Scott Rohling


-- 
Bruce Hayden
Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support
IBM, Endicott, NY


Re: Fw: Disk Accounting Records

2008-09-30 Thread Scott Rohling
So I guess it's on MAINT 193 :-) Thanks to everybody for the replies..
I wonder how long ACCOUNT MODULE has been out there -- I coded up an EXEC to
do the tallying some time ago -- definitely not the first time I found
myself having reinvented a wheel :-)

Thanks again!

Scott Rohling