Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-23 Thread Jim Elliott
> I know that I can do this easily from z/VSE, but what about z/OS?

Frank:

Get my MVSCPCMD package from
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/mvscpcmd.html

Jim


Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:29:02 -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers 
 wrote:

>...I know that I can do this easily from z/VSE, but what about z/OS?
>
> 
>
>Let me explain further.  This past Saturday, we performed our first DR
>test with our current setup (1 z/OS system and 1 z/VM with
>multiple-z/VSE).  Since we have not been able to get the backup
>performance from either z/VM or z/VSE that z/OS provides, we backup both

>systems (2 z9s) from z/OS.   During recovery, the z/OS system DSF's all
>devices to LABEL them and then restores them from the library.
>
>Well, the setup is a z/VM "floor" system with z/OS and "our" z/VM under
>it.  All of the DASD is MDISK DEVNO'ed in 1st level VM.   After a DASD
>label has changed it's not reflected on the 1st level VM until a VARY
>OFF/ON is performed.  Since z/OS is performing the labeling, it would be

>best for it to do the VARY OFF/ON.
>
> 
>
>Other thoughts?

Since your DASD is given to your 2nd level DR guests via DEVNO your 1st 

level system doesn't care what the label is.  I submit that varying them 

OFF/ON is not needed at all.  We've conducted many DR tests as 2nd level 

guests, relabeling every volume, and never cared what label the 1st level
 
system thought it was.  When interfacing with the 1st level provider refe
r 
to addresses not labels.

Brian Nielsen


Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread David Boyes
NJE connection to RSCS or NJE Bridge would also work (without having to
write any code). 


Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/22/2010 at 12:12 EDT, John Harris  
wrote:
> A simple REXX based socket listener running on a disconnected z/VM guest 
could 
> accomplish this quite easily. 
> Commands can be sent from z/OS directly (or any other platform) from a 
Batch 
> Job/TSO or the console via System REXX. 

Don't forget TLS/SSL + userid + password.  If user is validated, then 
issue the FOR command and send the response back.  The good news is that 
if you have RACF on both z/OS and z/VM, you can generate a PassTicket on 
the z/OS side and use it to authenticate on z/VM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread John Harris




A simple REXX based socket listener running on a disconnected z/VM guest could accomplish this quite easily.
Commands can be sent from z/OS directly (or any other platform) from a Batch Job/TSO or the console via System REXX.



Regards
John Harris



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   From: David Boyes 
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  AFAIK, there’s still no IBM-supported way to do this. VSE put the VM interfaces in ages ago, but they’ve always been a bit smarter about playing nice with hypervisors. 
  
   
  
  There’s a nice mod on the SHARE mods tapes that teaches JES to CP CLOSE spool files via DIAG 8 and also provides a utility that will do CP commands read from a input dataset, also via DIAG 8. 
  
   
  
  

  
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…I know that I can do this easily from z/VSE, but what about z/OS?

 

  

 
  








Re: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread David Boyes
AFAIK, there's still no IBM-supported way to do this. VSE put the VM interfaces 
in ages ago, but they've always been a bit smarter about playing nice with 
hypervisors.

There's a nice mod on the SHARE mods tapes that teaches JES to CP CLOSE spool 
files via DIAG 8 and also provides a utility that will do CP commands read from 
a input dataset, also via DIAG 8.

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Frank M. Ramaekers
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:29 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

...I know that I can do this easily from z/VSE, but what about z/OS?



Issuing VM commands from z/OS...

2010-06-22 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
...I know that I can do this easily from z/VSE, but what about z/OS?

 

Let me explain further.  This past Saturday, we performed our first DR
test with our current setup (1 z/OS system and 1 z/VM with
multiple-z/VSE).  Since we have not been able to get the backup
performance from either z/VM or z/VSE that z/OS provides, we backup both
systems (2 z9s) from z/OS.   During recovery, the z/OS system DSF's all
devices to LABEL them and then restores them from the library.

Well, the setup is a z/VM "floor" system with z/OS and "our" z/VM under
it.  All of the DASD is MDISK DEVNO'ed in 1st level VM.   After a DASD
label has changed it's not reflected on the 1st level VM until a VARY
OFF/ON is performed.  Since z/OS is performing the labeling, it would be
best for it to do the VARY OFF/ON.

 

Other thoughts?

 

 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

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