Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
Quoting Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And for those, you might look at VSSI's VTAPE product. It can use a virtual tape for SPXTAPE. It might be cheaper than a tape drive (+ controller + cables + maintenance contract). I don't know what size your system is, but the VSSI products are priced based on MSU. You can check their website http://vsoftsys.com/ for information. Regards, Richard Schuh Don't forget Dave Jones' posting from last week: Can't use SPXTAPE dump as we have no tape drives attached to either of the VM systems.Is there a way to save the DCSSes and NSSes without a tape drive? Yup, there sure is we've got a freebie spool file backup/restore utility that can backup (to CMS files) and restore all types of spool files; DCSS, NSS, NLS, IMG, UCR, and unit record (PRT, PUN, RDR). Drop me a note off list if you'd like a copy of this free utility. (It sounds great to me, but we already have that functionality as part of the V/Spool commercial product) He is at www.vsoft-software.com - sorry I can't show an email address, but the archive hides them. Shimon
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
Quoting Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] For some reason this post came in right justified and reversed right-to-left. Is this a side-effect of writing in Hebrew mode, Shimon? If so, it's really cool. Easily amused today, -- db
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
You need a better email reader. Thunderbird displayed it fine. The only thing was that the vertical line that shows copied text was on the right margin. David Boyes wrote: Quoting Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] For some reason this post came in right justified and reversed right-to-left. Is this a side-effect of writing in Hebrew mode, Shimon? If so, it's really cool. Easily amused today, -- db -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
And it is not even Friday. Regards, Richard Schuh For some reason this post came in right justified and reversed right-to-left. Is this a side-effect of writing in Hebrew mode, Shimon? If so, it's really cool. Easily amused today, -- db
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
Support for 3590 tape drives was added to VM in version 2. Looking at model E11 there were no upgrades required for VM. I don't know of any manual that lists what hardware is supported by which level of VM. However, it is easy to search the IBM website. I did a search on 3590 Opened the announcement on 3590 model E11 and E1A. Scanned that to see that VM and VSE did not need any upgrade but OS/390 did. I looked in the 3590 Technical Guide and saw that support was added in VM version 2. It took me longer to type in this email than to look up the information. Collinson.Shannon wrote: Is there a manual or webpage somewhere that references all the types of hardware that will work under various versions of zLinux and zVM? Or could someone tell me where I could confirm that a Magstar 3590 model E11 standalone tape drive would work under zVM 5.3 and/or SLES9 SP3? We’re new to the zVM/zLinux world—just finished with our POC and now trying to ready an LPAR for production use—and didn’t realize till just recently that we’d need a tape drive to do a standalone dump of the zVM lpar. We have some no-longer-in-use 3590s available so thought we’d put them on the lpar as a temporary solution, but don’t know how to ensure they’re supported. Thanks! -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
In my 35 years of working on or around VM, I have never once had to take a stand alone dump of VM. In the past, the PSW RESTART dumps were sufficient. Now, you have that and the SNAPDUMP command. The only times that the stand alone dump tape got used was for the production TPF systems when I was at Piedmont Airlines. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collinson.Shannon Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:24 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM? This is cross-posted on the linux-390 and ibmvm listservs... Is there a manual or webpage somewhere that references all the types of hardware that will work under various versions of zLinux and zVM? Or could someone tell me where I could confirm that a Magstar 3590 model E11 standalone tape drive would work under zVM 5.3 and/or SLES9 SP3? We're new to the zVM/zLinux world-just finished with our POC and now trying to ready an LPAR for production use-and didn't realize till just recently that we'd need a tape drive to do a standalone dump of the zVM lpar. We have some no-longer-in-use 3590s available so thought we'd put them on the lpar as a temporary solution, but don't know how to ensure they're supported. Thanks! Shannon Collinson l Mainframe Operating Systems l ETI l SunTrust Banks l 404.827.6070 (office) l 404.642.1280 (mobile) Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
I was going to say the same (except I don't have nearly that many years :) We stopped making SA dump tapes long ago since we never ever used them. PSW Restart has always worked. And more recently, SNAPDUMP has been used here quite a bit. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:04 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM? In my 35 years of working on or around VM, I have never once had to take a stand alone dump of VM. In the past, the PSW RESTART dumps were sufficient. Now, you have that and the SNAPDUMP command. The only times that the stand alone dump tape got used was for the production TPF systems when I was at Piedmont Airlines. Regards, Richard Schuh _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collinson.Shannon Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:24 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM? This is cross-posted on the linux-390 and ibmvm listservs... Is there a manual or webpage somewhere that references all the types of hardware that will work under various versions of zLinux and zVM? Or could someone tell me where I could confirm that a Magstar 3590 model E11 standalone tape drive would work under zVM 5.3 and/or SLES9 SP3? We're new to the zVM/zLinux world-just finished with our POC and now trying to ready an LPAR for production use-and didn't realize till just recently that we'd need a tape drive to do a standalone dump of the zVM lpar. We have some no-longer-in-use 3590s available so thought we'd put them on the lpar as a temporary solution, but don't know how to ensure they're supported. Thanks! Shannon Collinson l Mainframe Operating Systems l ETI l SunTrust Banks l 404.827.6070 (office) l 404.642.1280 (mobile) Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
As Richard says, VM dumps SO rarely that buying a tape drive for that purpose is probably a waste of money. The only thing you absolutely need a tape drive for is to back up spool files and NSSes such as CMS and GCS. SPXTAPE can't deal with non-tape devices.
Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM?
And for those, you might look at VSSI's VTAPE product. It can use a virtual tape for SPXTAPE. It might be cheaper than a tape drive (+ controller + cables + maintenance contract). I don't know what size your system is, but the VSSI products are priced based on MSU. You can check their website http://vsoftsys.com/ for information. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 3590 tape drive support in zLinux/zVM? As Richard says, VM dumps SO rarely that buying a tape drive for that purpose is probably a waste of money. The only thing you absolutely need a tape drive for is to back up spool files and NSSes such as CMS and GCS. SPXTAPE can't deal with non-tape devices.
