Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/08/2008 at 12:25 EDT, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The CMS Files to TSO XMIT is one part of the overall process. The other
> parts are CMS Files to VMARC, CMS Files to ZIP and CMS Files to TAR. The
> VMARC option is for people (like me) who would use these files on other 
z/VM
> systems. The ZIP option is for people who would only use these files on
> their Windows PC. The TAR option is for the people who would use the 
files
> on Linux/SUN/AIX systems. The XMIT option is necessary for those people 
who
> would use them on z/OS systems.

If folks feel that CMS and TSO netdata-style communications needs to be 
beefed up, please work with your fave user group to get those requirements 
open.  If you don't tell us, we don't know.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Kern
The CMS Files to TSO XMIT is one part of the overall process. The other
parts are CMS Files to VMARC, CMS Files to ZIP and CMS Files to TAR. The
VMARC option is for people (like me) who would use these files on other z
/VM
systems. The ZIP option is for people who would only use these files on
their Windows PC. The TAR option is for the people who would use the file
s
on Linux/SUN/AIX systems. The XMIT option is necessary for those people w
ho
would use them on z/OS systems. 



On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:15:20 -0700, Lionel B. Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>How about using VMARC to collect the files into a single transportable
>file and then on the PC you can use VMA from Leland Lucius
>
>VMA can be found at http://homerow.net/zvm/vma.htm
>
>The description is:
>
>VMA Utility
>VMA is a utility that allows you to list and/or extract subfiles from
>VMARC files.  It consists of a command line version that should run just

>about anywhere and a GUI version that should run whereever wxWidgets is
>supported.
>
>Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist
>


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-08 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
How about using VMARC to collect the files into a single transportable 
file and then on the PC you can use VMA from Leland Lucius

VMA can be found at http://homerow.net/zvm/vma.htm

The description is:

VMA Utility
VMA is a utility that allows you to list and/or extract subfiles from 
VMARC files.  It consists of a command line version that should run just 
about anywhere and a GUI version that should run whereever wxWidgets is 
supported.

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Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Kern
Two problems with this solution.
 
I need to get the XMIT file down to a PC. 
 
I don't have ISPF on this IFL.
 
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211


On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:51:48 -0600, Roger Bolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>If you have ISPF on VM you can use option 3.6 the SPOOL utility XM optio
n
>to send a whole set of files with the same lrecl and recfm to TSO as a
>PDS.
>For example,  If I have a set of JCL files on VM I can send the whole se
t
>as * JCL with XM, and it arrives as an xmitted PDS on TSO.  I get these
>messages:
>INMR901I Dataset A.ASTERISK.JCL from RBOLAN on BLDVMB
>INMR906A Enter restore parameters or 'DELETE' or 'END' +
>
>Roger Bolan


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Roger Bolan
If you have ISPF on VM you can use option 3.6 the SPOOL utility XM option 
to send a whole set of files with the same lrecl and recfm to TSO as a 
PDS.
For example,  If I have a set of JCL files on VM I can send the whole set 
as * JCL with XM, and it arrives as an xmitted PDS on TSO.  I get these 
messages:
INMR901I Dataset A.ASTERISK.JCL from RBOLAN on BLDVMB 
INMR906A Enter restore parameters or 'DELETE' or 'END' + 

Roger Bolan


The IBM z/VM Operating System  wrote on 
08/07/2008 09:22:33 AM:

> What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and package them
> together as a single data file compatible with the TSO XMIT and Windows
> XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked at the PIPELINES BLOCK NETDATA (I 
am
> 
> not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output files together
> (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT CLOSE), but this 
doe
> s
> not produce a usable XMIT file. 
> 
> Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files into a 
sing
> le
> XMIT data file? 
> 
> /Tom Kern
> /301-903-2211 


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Kern
The TAPPDS and TAPEMAC programs only read IEBPTPCH, IEBUPDTE and IEHMOVE
data files. 
 
The IEBCOPY program that I have is from a VM/SP 2 version of the Waterloo

Mods tape. It is M0091. It is also included in File 05 of the CBTTape whi
ch
is a REXX program (with assembler helper programs) to load the CBTTape to

CMS files. 
 
The OSPDS REXX and the XMITINFO EXEC (from PlanetMVS) are the most useful
 as
examples of decoding the IEBCOPY directory and data. I noticed that PIPEL
INE
has an IEBCOPY built-in stage to decode the directory and data. I wonder 
if
the old DECODE operand to it was removed because people hoped there would
 be
an ENCODE operand someday? 
 
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:27:35 EDT, A. Harry Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>OSPDS is a rexx stage for Pipelines that breaks apart a IEBCOPY file.
>http://www2.marist.edu/~pipeline/ospds.rexx
>
>I use it as:
>
>PIPE(name PDSREC)|',
>  'reader file' splid '|',
>  'find' '41'x '|',
>  'spec 2-* 1.80|',
>  'deblock netdata|',
>  'find {|' ,
>  'spec 2-* 1|' ,
>  'ospds' ft fm
>
>
>You may also find http://www.planetmvs.com/unxmit/index.html useful for
>some additional details.
>


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:22:38 -0400 David Boyes said:
>TAPPDS and TAPEMAC can reassemble unloaded PDSes on CMS. In looking
>around, also look for INMR123 REXX on your S disk. That seems to do
>something like what you might want.

OSPDS is a rexx stage for Pipelines that breaks apart a IEBCOPY file.
http://www2.marist.edu/~pipeline/ospds.rexx

I use it as:

PIPE(name PDSREC)|',
  'reader file' splid '|',
  'find' '41'x '|',
  'spec 2-* 1.80|',
  'deblock netdata|',
  'find {|' ,
  'spec 2-* 1|' ,
  'ospds' ft fm


You may also find http://www.planetmvs.com/unxmit/index.html useful for
some additional details.


>> I suspect that the 'some data' is an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS. Now I have
>an
>> assembler program that reads an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS but no program to
>wr
>> ite
>> one. I will have to break open the IEBCOPY program to see how a
>datastrea
>> m
>> is constructed. Maybe I can get a pipeline to create a compatible
>datastr
>> eam.


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread David Boyes
TAPPDS and TAPEMAC can reassemble unloaded PDSes on CMS. In looking
around, also look for INMR123 REXX on your S disk. That seems to do
something like what you might want. 

> I suspect that the 'some data' is an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS. Now I have
an
> assembler program that reads an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS but no program to
wr
> ite
> one. I will have to break open the IEBCOPY program to see how a
datastrea
> m
> is constructed. Maybe I can get a pipeline to create a compatible
datastr
> eam.


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Kern
More information:
 
An example of an XMIT file, taken from the CBTTAPE website contains 5 INM
R
control records. 
 
1) INMR01 with fromnode fromuser tonode touser information
2) INMR02 with an eyecatcher of IEBCOPY 
3) INMR02 with an eyecatcher of INMCOPY
4) INMR03 with some original file information
 some data
5) INMR06 to terminate the datastream
 
I suspect that the 'some data' is an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS. Now I have an
assembler program that reads an IEBCOPY unloaded PDS but no program to wr
ite
one. I will have to break open the IEBCOPY program to see how a datastrea
m
is constructed. Maybe I can get a pipeline to create a compatible datastr
eam.
 
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Kern
That alternative, I will keep in my back pocket for a last resort.
 
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:52:37 -0500, McKown, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just as an aside, the Java "jar" command can be used to create or
>"explode" ZIP type files. Most z/OS shops should have Java. It's free.
>
>jar xf some.file.zip
>
>will eXtract the files from soe.file.zip
>
>jar cf some.other.zip file1 file2 file3 ...
>
>Will create a ZIP file containing the files.
>
>I don't think it supports "legacy" z/OS datasets, only z/OS UNIX files.
>
>--
>John McKown


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:43 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream
> 
> The purpose is to have a datafile that can be transferred to a PC for
> archival to a CD/DVD and viewed with the XMIT Manager program 
> under Windo=
> ws
> and when the user gets a new job at a z/OS installation, the 
> file can be
> uploaded to that system and properly used by the TSO RECEIVE command. 
>  
> I cannot guarantee that the user will have an UNZIP at a new 
> z/OS job. =
> 
>  
> /Tom Kern

Just as an aside, the Java "jar" command can be used to create or
"explode" ZIP type files. Most z/OS shops should have Java. It's free.

jar xf some.file.zip

will eXtract the files from soe.file.zip

jar cf some.other.zip file1 file2 file3 ...

Will create a ZIP file containing the files.

I don't think it supports "legacy" z/OS datasets, only z/OS UNIX files.

--
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Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
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Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Dennis Boone
 > What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and package them
 > together as a single data file compatible with the TSO XMIT and Windows
 > XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked at the PIPELINES BLOCK NETDATA (I
 > am not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output files
 > together (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT CLOSE),
 > but this does not produce a usable XMIT file.

 > Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files into a
 > single XMIT data file?

Some combination of FILEDEF and MOVEFILE to make a PDS, then XMIT
_that_, perhaps?

De


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Kern
The purpose is to have a datafile that can be transferred to a PC for
archival to a CD/DVD and viewed with the XMIT Manager program under Windo
ws
and when the user gets a new job at a z/OS installation, the file can be
uploaded to that system and properly used by the TSO RECEIVE command. 
 
I cannot guarantee that the user will have an UNZIP at a new z/OS job. 

 
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211


On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:13:58 -0700, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
:
>How about PKZIP?
>
>Regards, 
>Richard Schuh 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:23 AM
>> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> Subject: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream
>> 
>> What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and 
>> package them together as a single data file compatible with 
>> the TSO XMIT and Windows XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked 
>> at the PIPELINES BLOCK NETDATA (I am=
>> 
>> not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output files 
>> together (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT 
>> CLOSE), but this doe= s not produce a usable XMIT file. 
>>  
>> Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files 
>> into a sing= le XMIT data file? 
>>  
>> /Tom Kern
>> /301-903-2211 
>> 
>
=
===


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Kris,
 I'd be interested in that even if the OP isn't.

Jerry Whitteridge
Safeway Inc
925 951 4184
  

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:29 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream
> 
> I sending the files in one MVS job that receives them automatically an
> option?  If yes, I've got a solution, I wrote such code for my former
> client to transfer accounting and alike to MVS; punched some JCL to
> call IKJEFT01 (that is TSO) with RECEIVE commands, and finally punched
> the wanted CMS files using PIPE's NETDATA stage.
> 
> 2008/8/7 Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and package them
> > together as a single data file compatible with the TSO XMIT 
> and Windows
> > XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked at the PIPELINES BLOCK 
> NETDATA (I am
> > not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output 
> files together
> > (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT 
> CLOSE), but this does
> > not produce a usable XMIT file.
> >
> > Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS 
> files into a single
> > XMIT data file?
> >
> > /Tom Kern
> > /301-903-2211
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kris Buelens,
> IBM Belgium, VM customer support
> 
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Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread David Boyes
Hmm. If the package passes through RSCS, since RSCS doesn't support
NETDATA with multiple datasets, won't the package get exploded on
transmission? 

> Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files into a
sing
> le
> XMIT data file?
> 
> /Tom Kern
> /301-903-2211


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Kris Buelens
I sending the files in one MVS job that receives them automatically an
option?  If yes, I've got a solution, I wrote such code for my former
client to transfer accounting and alike to MVS; punched some JCL to
call IKJEFT01 (that is TSO) with RECEIVE commands, and finally punched
the wanted CMS files using PIPE's NETDATA stage.

2008/8/7 Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and package them
> together as a single data file compatible with the TSO XMIT and Windows
> XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked at the PIPELINES BLOCK NETDATA (I am
> not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output files together
> (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT CLOSE), but this does
> not produce a usable XMIT file.
>
> Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files into a single
> XMIT data file?
>
> /Tom Kern
> /301-903-2211
>



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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream

2008-08-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
How about PKZIP?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:23 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: CMS Files to XMIT compatible datastream
> 
> What I would like to do is take a list of CMS files and 
> package them together as a single data file compatible with 
> the TSO XMIT and Windows XMIT-Manager programs. I have looked 
> at the PIPELINES BLOCK NETDATA (I am=
> 
> not that good a plumber) and at stacking NETDATA output files 
> together (SPOOL PUN CONT, NETDATA ... (NOSPOOL, SP PUN NOCONT 
> CLOSE), but this doe= s not produce a usable XMIT file. 
>  
> Does anyone have a procedure for combining multiple CMS files 
> into a sing= le XMIT data file? 
>  
> /Tom Kern
> /301-903-2211 
>