Re: CTC change

2007-05-22 Thread Anne Crabtree
Do I have to logon TCPIP to detach it or can I do it from, say, MAINT?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 3:26 PM 
On Monday, 05/21/2007 at 10:04 AST, Anne Crabtree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
 WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
 doing OBEY or something?

No.  In fact, you will need to logoff/logon or DETACH the vctc and
DEFINE 
it anew.  Changing the configuration in the directory never changes the

active configuration.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: CTC change

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Bohnsack
You can use the NETSTAT command with the CP option.  Enter NETSTAT CP 
DET /cuu/.  You could also use the SECUSER (secondary user or console 
facility).  From a class A or C privileged userid, enter:


SET SECUSER TCPIP /yourid/ 


then

SEND CP TCPIP DET /cuu

/When you're done, enter:

SET SECUSER TCPIP RESET

Jim

Anne Crabtree wrote:

Do I have to logon TCPIP to detach it or can I do it from, say, MAINT?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 3:26 PM 


On Monday, 05/21/2007 at 10:04 AST, Anne Crabtree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  

What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
doing OBEY or something?



No.  In fact, you will need to logoff/logon or DETACH the vctc and
DEFINE 
it anew.  Changing the configuration in the directory never changes the


active configuration.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

  



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Jim Bohnsack
Cornell University
(607) 255-1760
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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
That will work.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: CTC change


I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using.  If I
want to change that CTC to be used by my second level VM, can I just
make the change in the USER DIRECT (comment out SPECIAL stmt in  linux
guest and add the SPECIAL statement to my 2nd level VM guest) and then
install the USER DIRECT...?  I don't want to mess up anything on first
level that is running.  I am trying to run a second level VM and,
eventually,want to start TCPIP and a linux guest on 2nd level so I am
trying to duplicate first level as much as possible.  

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351


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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Anne Crabtree
What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
doing OBEY or something?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 9:31 AM 
That will work.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: CTC change


I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using.  If
I
want to change that CTC to be used by my second level VM, can I just
make the change in the USER DIRECT (comment out SPECIAL stmt in  linux
guest and add the SPECIAL statement to my 2nd level VM guest) and then
install the USER DIRECT...?  I don't want to mess up anything on first
level that is running.  I am trying to run a second level VM and,
eventually,want to start TCPIP and a linux guest on 2nd level so I am
trying to duplicate first level as much as possible.  

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351


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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Once it is on 2nd level, you have to ATTACH / DEDICATE to whatever
virtual machine (TCP/IP, VM/VTAM, PVM) that will use it.

You have to have it assigned to your 2nd level VM Guest on 1st level,
then on 2nd level, assigned to the guest there.

What you do with it now is up to you.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CTC change


What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
doing OBEY or something?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 9:31 AM 
That will work.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: CTC change


I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using.  If I
want to change that CTC to be used by my second level VM, can I just
make the change in the USER DIRECT (comment out SPECIAL stmt in  linux
guest and add the SPECIAL statement to my 2nd level VM guest) and then
install the USER DIRECT...?  I don't want to mess up anything on first
level that is running.  I am trying to run a second level VM and,
eventually,want to start TCPIP and a linux guest on 2nd level so I am
trying to duplicate first level as much as possible.  

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351


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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
If Linux is a guest on the same system where the 2nd level VM is running
or is a guest of the 2nd level system, you can use a VCTCA instead of
the real one. In fact, you will almost assuredly have to use VCTCA as
there will be only one device defined and it cannot be attached to 2
different guests. 


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI)
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CTC change

Once it is on 2nd level, you have to ATTACH / DEDICATE to whatever
virtual machine (TCP/IP, VM/VTAM, PVM) that will use it.

You have to have it assigned to your 2nd level VM Guest on 1st level,
then on 2nd level, assigned to the guest there.

What you do with it now is up to you.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CTC change


What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
doing OBEY or something?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 9:31 AM 
That will work.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: CTC change


I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using.  If I
want to change that CTC to be used by my second level VM, can I just
make the change in the USER DIRECT (comment out SPECIAL stmt in  linux
guest and add the SPECIAL statement to my 2nd level VM guest) and then
install the USER DIRECT...?  I don't want to mess up anything on first
level that is running.  I am trying to run a second level VM and,
eventually,want to start TCPIP and a linux guest on 2nd level so I am
trying to duplicate first level as much as possible.  

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351


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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread David Kreuter
It is a virtual ctc first level. The ATT/DEDICATE is for the 2nd level system 
to attach to TCPIP or any other 3rd level guest machine capable of driving it.
David

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Mon 5/21/2007 11:34 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CTC change
 
If Linux is a guest on the same system where the 2nd level VM is running
or is a guest of the 2nd level system, you can use a VCTCA instead of
the real one. In fact, you will almost assuredly have to use VCTCA as
there will be only one device defined and it cannot be attached to 2
different guests. 


Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI)
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CTC change

Once it is on 2nd level, you have to ATTACH / DEDICATE to whatever
virtual machine (TCP/IP, VM/VTAM, PVM) that will use it.

You have to have it assigned to your 2nd level VM Guest on 1st level,
then on 2nd level, assigned to the guest there.

What you do with it now is up to you.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:05 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CTC change


What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
doing OBEY or something?

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/2007 9:31 AM 
That will work.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anne Crabtree
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: CTC change


I have a CTC defined to TCPIP for a linux guest we are not using.  If I
want to change that CTC to be used by my second level VM, can I just
make the change in the USER DIRECT (comment out SPECIAL stmt in  linux
guest and add the SPECIAL statement to my 2nd level VM guest) and then
install the USER DIRECT...?  I don't want to mess up anything on first
level that is running.  I am trying to run a second level VM and,
eventually,want to start TCPIP and a linux guest on 2nd level so I am
trying to duplicate first level as much as possible.  

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351


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Re: CTC change

2007-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/21/2007 at 10:04 AST, Anne Crabtree [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 What about the SPECIAL statement in USER TCPIP?  If I change it from
 WVLNX5 to VMTEST, will it know about it without recycling TCPIP or
 doing OBEY or something?

No.  In fact, you will need to logoff/logon or DETACH the vctc and DEFINE 
it anew.  Changing the configuration in the directory never changes the 
active configuration.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott