Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Mark Pace
Assuming that z/OS controls the IOCP throught HCD share the CHPID and the
Devices with the VM partition.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote:

 We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
 DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
 quite nicely.

 Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
 z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
 reconfiguration.

 So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
 use existing paths to the DS8100.

 There are 8 devices on this new path.

 I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
 certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
 option for me.

 Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.

 
 James R. Hughes
 TSG, Problem Solver
 NH Department of Information Technology
 603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
 www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Hughes, Jim
Two separate systems sharing a DS 8100. The z10 and z890 don't share an
HCD.

 

I cannot vary something online to the z890 that doesn't exist.  Am I
making sense or missing the point you are trying to make?

 


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To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

 

Assuming that z/OS controls the IOCP throught HCD share the CHPID and
the Devices with the VM partition.

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov
wrote:

We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
quite nicely.

Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
reconfiguration.

So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
use existing paths to the DS8100.

There are 8 devices on this new path.

I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
option for me.

Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Mark Pace
No I'm sorry, I read but didn't comprehend that there were 2 separate Z
systems.

You can dynamically add everything from z/VM, however I've used HCD on z/OS
so long now that I'm afraid I can't help with the proper CP commands to add
the devices in z/VM.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov wrote:

  Two separate systems sharing a DS 8100. The z10 and z890 don’t share an
 HCD.



 I cannot vary something online to the z890 that doesn’t exist.  Am I making
 sense or missing the point you are trying to make?



 
 James R. Hughes
 TSG, Problem Solver
 NH Department of Information Technology
 603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
 www.nh.gov/doit

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 Assuming that z/OS controls the IOCP throught HCD share the CHPID and the
 Devices with the VM partition.



 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov
 wrote:

 We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
 DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
 quite nicely.

 Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
 z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
 reconfiguration.

 So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
 use existing paths to the DS8100.

 There are 8 devices on this new path.

 I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
 certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
 option for me.

 Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.

 
 James R. Hughes
 TSG, Problem Solver
 NH Department of Information Technology
 603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
 www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
How did you create the IOCP for the machine that has the VM partition in
question?  Go there and change the definition of those channels, control
units and devices to include the VM partition.  Dynamically activate the
changes.

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:49 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

 

Two separate systems sharing a DS 8100. The z10 and z890 don't share an
HCD.

 

I cannot vary something online to the z890 that doesn't exist.  Am I
making sense or missing the point you are trying to make?

 


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:45 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

 

Assuming that z/OS controls the IOCP throught HCD share the CHPID and
the Devices with the VM partition.

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hughes, Jim jim.hug...@doit.nh.gov
wrote:

We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
quite nicely.

Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
reconfiguration.

So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
use existing paths to the DS8100.

There are 8 devices on this new path.

I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
option for me.

Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
See DEFINE CHPID|PATH|CU|DEVICE statements.

 
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Dynamically adding 3390's

We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
quite nicely.

Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
reconfiguration.

So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
use existing paths to the DS8100.

There are 8 devices on this new path.

I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
option for me.

Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I would think that if this DS8100 was already being used by this box, then the 
CHPID and PATHs are already defined.  If this is a new controller for you, then 
you need to do the DEFINE for the controller using the existing paths.

In all cases, you would have to do the DEFINE device(s) for the new volumes.

Then, you can vary on the devices and be off and running.

When done, be sure to update your IOCP and put it in the next slot.  Otherwise 
a Power On Reset, will loose any dynamically defined IOCP stuff.


Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com 1/5/2011 1:57 PM 
See DEFINE CHPID|PATH|CU|DEVICE statements.

 
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
 
 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Dynamically adding 3390's

We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
quite nicely.

Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
reconfiguration.

So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
use existing paths to the DS8100.

There are 8 devices on this new path.

I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
option for me.

Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit 

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Kris Buelens
Here some code. I used it to define extra disks defined on a DS6000.  Remark
that I first deleted a control unit.  Maybe not required in your case.

'/* Some new disks in DS6000 */
address command
'CP SET CONFIGMODE ON'

'CP VARY OFF SUBCH 7700-775F'
'CP VARY OFF SUBCH 7800-785F'
'CP DELETE IODEVICE 7700-775F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A09'
'CP DELETE IODEVICE 7800-785F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A08'
'CP DELETE CU 5A08'
'CP DELETE CU 5A09'

'CP DEFINE CU 5A0A TYPE * UNITADD 00-5F CUADD A CHPID 57 2B'
'CP DEFINE CU 5A08 TYPE * UNITADD 00-5F CUADD 8 CHPID 57 2B'
'CP DEFINE CU 5A0C TYPE * UNITADD 00-5F CUADD C CHPID 57 2B'
'CP DEFINE CU 5A0E TYPE * UNITADD 00-5F CUADD E CHPID 57 2B'


'CP DEFINE IODEVICE 7700-773F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A0A PARTITION BCRSPROD'
'CP DEFINE IODEVICE 7800-783F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A08 PARTITION BCRSPROD'
'CP DEFINE IODEVICE 7900-793F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A0C PARTITION BCRSPROD'
'CP DEFINE IODEVICE 7A00-7A3F UNITADD 00 CUNUMBR 5A0E PARTITION BCRSPROD'


'CP SET CONFIGMODE OFF'


2011/1/5 Tom Duerbusch duerbus...@stlouiscity.com

 I would think that if this DS8100 was already being used by this box, then
 the CHPID and PATHs are already defined.  If this is a new controller for
 you, then you need to do the DEFINE for the controller using the existing
 paths.

 In all cases, you would have to do the DEFINE device(s) for the new
 volumes.

 Then, you can vary on the devices and be off and running.

 When done, be sure to update your IOCP and put it in the next slot.
  Otherwise a Power On Reset, will loose any dynamically defined IOCP stuff.


 Tom Duerbusch
 THD Consulting

  Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com 1/5/2011 1:57 PM 
 See DEFINE CHPID|PATH|CU|DEVICE statements.


 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.



 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
 Behalf Of Hughes, Jim
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:42 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Dynamically adding 3390's

 We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
 DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
 quite nicely.

 Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
 z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
 reconfiguration.

 So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
 use existing paths to the DS8100.

 There are 8 devices on this new path.

 I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
 certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
 option for me.

 Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.

 
 James R. Hughes
 TSG, Problem Solver
 NH Department of Information Technology
 603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
 www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Hughes, Jim
Got it. Thanks.


James R. Hughes
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Subject: Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

See DEFINE CHPID|PATH|CU|DEVICE statements.

 
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
 
 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:42 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Dynamically adding 3390's

We want to define a new controller for some new dasd volumes on our
DS8100.  Our Z/OS z10 system has them defined and is working with them
quite nicely.

Our z890 z/VM system doesn't have them in its IOCP.  I've checked the
z/VM system using CP Q DYN STAT and discovered it does allow dynamic io
reconfiguration.

So, my question is how do I get the new dasd online to z/VM?  It will
use existing paths to the DS8100.

There are 8 devices on this new path.

I've never done this sort of thing to a running system and have a
certain respect for keeping it up and working. Experimenting is not an
option for me.

Thanks in advance for hints, tips, and an education.


James R. Hughes
TSG, Problem Solver
NH Department of Information Technology
603-271-5586(w); 603-491-3071(c)
www.nh.gov/doit

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Re: Dynamically adding 3390's

2011-01-05 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Over the years since dynamic IOCP changes became possible,
I have had several occasions to use them. At first I ran into problems
of not being able to activate the newly saved IOCDS (RC=88, I believe)
because I had somehow or other gotten out of sync. So I created a special
machine just for dynamic IOCP stuff, named, obviously, DYNIOCP.

This machine presents a panel, which:
- tells me if current status is DYN ON or DYN OFF
- allows me to change the DYN status
- records EVERY command entered, *AND* its resulting message(s) in a dated
log file
- allows me to scroll backward/forward through an unlimited number of
   previous commands
- has a PF for FILELIST enabling me to look at log files, etc.

So, I can be totally sure what changes I *did* do, and what I did *not*,
and can create an IOCP source exactly matching the new hardware setup.

I recently had to set up new dasd on the fly, after a long time with
no new hardware, and using DYNIOCP made it a breeze!
Seeing a successful result to SET IOCDS_ACTIVE is a real pleasure.

Available on request, of course. (Pre-req: my XFS panel display program)

Shimon