Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
If doing the DDR from MAINT try using 123 (the virtual address of res) as your input CUU.. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Hello Bobby Bauer, Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. You should be able to link to maint 123 127a RR. Then redo your DDR. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Your input / output must be on virtual addresses of the guest doing the DDR. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Thanks everybody. Didn't realize I needed the virtual device. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Your input / output must be on virtual addresses of the guest doing the DDR. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Unless of course the volume is free and you can attach it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Thanks everybody. Didn't realize I needed the virtual device. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Wandschneider, Scott Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Your input / output must be on virtual addresses of the guest doing the DDR. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
It has to be attached to you - not the system.. or you can: DEF MDISK 127A 0 END 540RES Or, as others pointed out - if you're on MAINT - the 123 disk should point to the res pack as well. Scott On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] baue...@mail.nih.gov wrote: I’m attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote: I’m attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. #1, define a covering minidisk from a user with DEVMAINT privs. #2, have the primary system down. Your RES volumes probably shouldn't be DDRed while in use. As with Linux guests and an unclean shutdown you will probably get away with with after a FORCE start when you come up in production, but, well, you're going to production! Since #2 makes #1 hard, maybe a better solution would be to IPL standalone DDR and do it that way. Adam
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
I copy xxxRES all of the time .. The only problem I have ever seen is that you cannon do a warm start of the new volume.. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Adam, I get away with it too but I do CP Q SYSTEM first to see which userids have r/w mdisks on the sysres; I shutdown things like SFS servers that have an mdisk on the sysres before I flashcopy or DDR it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
I have an exec I used to backup the res volume. If anyone would like a copy of it, I would be happy to share it... Alyce From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Adam, I get away with it too but I do CP Q SYSTEM first to see which userids have r/w mdisks on the sysres; I shutdown things like SFS servers that have an mdisk on the sysres before I flashcopy or DDR it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Don't forget to relabel the volume(s) after the ddr. Duplicates can get you into trouble. Bob _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Adam, I get away with it too but I do CP Q SYSTEM first to see which userids have r/w mdisks on the sysres; I shutdown things like SFS servers that have an mdisk on the sysres before I flashcopy or DDR it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam _ This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Love to see it baue...@mail.nih.gov Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Austin, Alyce (CIV) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I have an exec I used to backup the res volume. If anyone would like a copy of it, I would be happy to share it... Alyce From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Adam, I get away with it too but I do CP Q SYSTEM first to see which userids have r/w mdisks on the sysres; I shutdown things like SFS servers that have an mdisk on the sysres before I flashcopy or DDR it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
DDR, in this case, works with device addresses. Since you are trying to run DDR from MAINT, 127A has to be attached to MAINT. Since this is 540RES, thus cp owned, you can't detach it. As the others have suggested, use 123. Edit your user directory and find USER MAINT, scroll forward from that point and you'll see that 123 is associated via and MDISK with 540RES, 122 with 540SPL, etc. Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Hello Bobby Bauer, Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. You should be able to link to maint 123 127a RR. Then redo your DDR. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
DO you have a full mdisk link to the input volume? Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 It is fun to do the impossible. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I'm attempting to clone our pilot VM system to a production lpar since it looks like a couple of applications might actually have a real future (a quiet hurray!). Attempting to copy the res volumes fails q 127a DASD 127A CP OWNED 540RES 83 then ddr input 127A 3390 540RES HCPDDR704E DEVICE 127A NOT OPERATIONAL Any suggestions would be helpful. Bobby Bauer Center for Information Technology National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892-5628 301-594-7474
Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume
Alyce, Might I have a copy too please ?. Kind Regards Jim From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Austin, Alyce (CIV) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:37 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume I have an exec I used to backup the res volume. If anyone would like a copy of it, I would be happy to share it. Alyce _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:11 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume Adam, I get away with it too but I do CP Q SYSTEM first to see which userids have r/w mdisks on the sysres; I shutdown things like SFS servers that have an mdisk on the sysres before I flashcopy or DDR it. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCPDDR704E error attempting to copy res volume On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Edward M Martin wrote: Typically Maint has 540RES as 123 MR. I should not answer questions before coffee. Yeah, there already *IS* a covering minidisk, isn't there? Question: is it actually safe to DDR the RES volume from a live system to another system? I always *thought* that was one of those things that you usually got away with but weren't supposed to do, but I will admit to perhaps being conditioned by growing up in the Unix world, where doing that kinda stuff with mounted filesystems is a Bad Idea. It would be very nice to know if it is in fact not risky; it will save me the time of going back after I've done all the user volumes, shutting down the system, and using standalone DDR on the RES volumes. Adam _ This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00
