Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-04 Thread LOREN CHARNLEY
Thanks for all of the replies to this request. I think that I have
enough information to make an informed reply to my management.

 

Thanks again,

Loren Charnley, Jr.

IT Systems Engineer

FAMILY DOLLAR

(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327

(704) 814-3327

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of LOREN CHARNLEY
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Monitor for zVM

 

I have been mandated by management to seek a lower cost performance
monitor than our currently employed ESAMON from Velocity Software. The
reason for this is that we are in the throws of down sizing what we are
running on our current z800 with zVM 4.3. There is also talk of
eliminating zVM altogether, but that is a discussion for a later date.

If anyone can suggest something of zero cost or at least lower than
ESAMON, I would appreciate it.

TIA,

Loren Charnley, Jr.

IT Systems Engineer

FAMILY DOLLAR

(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327

(704) 814-3327

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-03 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Depending on what you need HOBIT (a freebe) may work for you.

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LOREN 
CHARNLEY
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Monitor for zVM



I have been mandated by management to seek a lower cost performance monitor 
than our currently employed ESAMON from Velocity Software. The reason for this 
is that we are in the throws of down sizing what we are running on our current 
z800 with zVM 4.3. There is also talk of eliminating zVM altogether, but that 
is a discussion for a later date.

If anyone can suggest something of zero cost or at least lower than ESAMON, I 
would appreciate it.

TIA,

Loren Charnley, Jr.

IT Systems Engineer

FAMILY DOLLAR

(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327

(704) 814-3327

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-03 Thread Barton Robinson

zMON at $1200/year?


Huegel, Thomas wrote:


Depending on what you need HOBIT (a freebe) may work for you.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LOREN 
CHARNLEY
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Monitor for zVM



I have been mandated by management to seek a lower cost performance monitor 
than our currently employed ESAMON from Velocity Software. The reason for this 
is that we are in the throws of down sizing what we are running on our current 
z800 with zVM 4.3. There is also talk of eliminating zVM altogether, but that 
is a discussion for a later date.

If anyone can suggest something of zero cost or at least lower than ESAMON, I 
would appreciate it.

TIA,

Loren Charnley, Jr.

IT Systems Engineer

FAMILY DOLLAR

(704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327

(704) 814-3327

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-03 Thread Thomas Kern
HOBBIT is indeed a nice package, and it is free, but it is not
self-contained, it does require a server that acts as a collection/displa
y
point for multiple systems. We have ours running on a spare solaris syste
m,
others have theirs on linux/x86. When the next release (4.3) comes out, I

will be trying to put up my own hobbit server in one of my z890 linux
instances. 

It is nice and free but better if you already use it for monitoring other

systems in your network. If there is no Hobbit, BigBrother (hobbit's
ancestor) or Nagios to monitor systems, suggest Hobbit and let someone el
se
buy the linux server to put it on.

/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211


On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:09:05 -0500, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro
te:

Depending on what you need HOBIT (a freebe) may work for you.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of LOREN CHARNLEY
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Monitor for zVM


I have been mandated by management to seek a lower cost performance moni
tor
than our currently employed ESAMON from Velocity Software. The reason for

this is that we are in the throws of down sizing what we are running on o
ur
current z800 with zVM 4.3. There is also talk of eliminating zVM altogeth
er,
but that is a discussion for a later date.

If anyone can suggest something of zero cost or at least lower than ESAM
ON,
I would appreciate it.

TIA,

Loren Charnley, Jr.


Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-03 Thread Adam Thornton

On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Rich Smrcina wrote:

Hobbit is a network services monitor.  Even though a z/VM client is  
available, it is very high level stuff and does not give the level  
of detail that ESALPS or zMON does (and certainly couldn't hope to).


Loren appears to be looking for a lower cost performance monitor,  
zMON may be the right fit here.


Well, and, honestly, if $100 a month is too expensive then he's in a  
hopeless situation anyway.


Adam


Re: Monitor for zVM

2008-06-03 Thread Rich Smrcina
Hobbit is a network services monitor.  Even though a z/VM client is 
available, it is very high level stuff and does not give the level of 
detail that ESALPS or zMON does (and certainly couldn't hope to).


Loren appears to be looking for a lower cost performance monitor, zMON 
may be the right fit here.


Huegel, Thomas wrote:

Depending on what you need HOBIT (a freebe) may work for you.

-Original Message-
*From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *LOREN CHARNLEY
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:59 AM
*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
*Subject:* Monitor for zVM

I have been mandated by management to seek a lower cost performance
monitor than our currently employed ESAMON from Velocity Software.
The reason for this is that we are in the throws of down sizing what
we are running on our current z800 with zVM 4.3. There is also talk
of eliminating zVM altogether, but that is a discussion for a later
date.

If anyone can suggest something of zero cost or at least lower than
ESAMON, I would appreciate it.

TIA,



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