Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802

2009-03-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
It defiantly does get confusing. I was hoping RSU 0901 would be out and include 
the CMS SSL code before I undertook the SSL task. No such luck. Still I think 
it is an improvement over the LINUX approach, especially for non-LINUX shops.

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Thanks. Thats was it. I found the enablement PTFs and installed them. This is a
real PITA. From having to figure out that ssl needed to be enabled to finally
getting SSLSERV to initialize properly only after storing the database password
in a friggin stash file with the right permissions; made for a long day. I feel
cooked.


Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.






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I don't know.. do you have the SSL enabling PTF's on?

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Subject: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802


Testing out z/VM 5.4 and would like to implement secure telnet, ftp etc using
the SSL server. I have gone through the TCPIP configuration and certificate
database creation of the SSL server but I get the following from SSLSERV when
the server is autologged by TCPIP:


DTCRUN1022I Console log will be sent to default owner ID: TCPMAINT
DTCRUN1011I Server started at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)
DTCRUN1011I Running server command: VMSSL
DTCRUN1011I Parameters in use:
DTCRUN1011I  keyfile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb
VMSSL program functions are not available
14:14:16  * MSG FROM SSLSERV : VMSSL PROGRAM FUNCTIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE
HCPMFS057I SSLSERV not receiving; disconnected
DTCRUN1015I Server ended with RC=8 at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)


I seem to not be able to find out WHY 'VMSSL program functions are not
available'.  I can only guess that it might be because we don't have any crypto
processors enabled but I am pretty dazed and confused at this point. Any help is
appreciated.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.


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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Tyler Koyl
My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic SSL/TLS
connections? I have setup the Static SSL for Telnet by adding the following to
my TCPIP Profile:

 AUTOLOG
   SSLSERV  0
   FTPSERVE 0
 ENDAUTOLOG

PORT
  20   TCP FTPSERVE  NOAUTOLOG ; FTP SERVER
  21   TCP FTPSERVE; FTP SERVER
  23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 SSLSERVERID SSLSERV TIMEOUT 60

INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

I am using a sefl-signed cert and SSL seems to be working just fine. I have
tested this with x3270, c3270 and TN3270 (SDI) and I see the following in the
SSLSERV Log:

Client 10.254.3.81:36396 Port 23 Label ZVMCER01 Cipher RC4_128_SHA Connection
established.

So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or more
secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP log at
initialization:

 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS label
specified
.

I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the secure
connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request for the
secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Wondering if I am going box myself in here when I go to secure FTP connections
and PERFSVM web access.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.





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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I have something like this ..

  INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
PORT 992
SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED

TLSLABEL ZVMCER0

  ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS


Also:
In the SYSTEM DTCPARMS ... EXEMPT LOW makes it more secure..
:parms.KEYFile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb EXEMPT LOW MAXUSERS 200


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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:17 PM
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Subject: Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic
SSL\TLS


My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic SSL/TLS
connections? I have setup the Static SSL for Telnet by adding the following to
my TCPIP Profile:

 AUTOLOG
   SSLSERV  0
   FTPSERVE 0
 ENDAUTOLOG

PORT
  20   TCP FTPSERVE  NOAUTOLOG ; FTP SERVER
  21   TCP FTPSERVE; FTP SERVER
  23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 SSLSERVERID SSLSERV TIMEOUT 60

INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

I am using a sefl-signed cert and SSL seems to be working just fine. I have
tested this with x3270, c3270 and TN3270 (SDI) and I see the following in the
SSLSERV Log:

Client 10.254.3.81:36396 Port 23 Label ZVMCER01 Cipher RC4_128_SHA Connection
established.

So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or more
secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP log at
initialization:

 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS label
specified
.

I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the secure
connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request for the
secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Wondering if I am going box myself in here when I go to secure FTP connections
and PERFSVM web access.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.





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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Tyler Koyl
Sweet. The you would have to comment out or remove:

; 23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER


Tyler



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I have something like this ..

  INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
PORT 992
SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED

TLSLABEL ZVMCER0

  ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS


Also:
In the SYSTEM DTCPARMS ... EXEMPT LOW makes it more secure..
:parms.KEYFile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb EXEMPT LOW MAXUSERS 200


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Behalf Of Tyler Koyl
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic
SSL\TLS


My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic SSL/TLS
connections? I have setup the Static SSL for Telnet by adding the following to
my TCPIP Profile:

 AUTOLOG
   SSLSERV  0
   FTPSERVE 0
 ENDAUTOLOG

PORT
  20   TCP FTPSERVE  NOAUTOLOG ; FTP SERVER
  21   TCP FTPSERVE; FTP SERVER
  23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 SSLSERVERID SSLSERV TIMEOUT 60

INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

I am using a sefl-signed cert and SSL seems to be working just fine. I have
tested this with x3270, c3270 and TN3270 (SDI) and I see the following in the
SSLSERV Log:

Client 10.254.3.81:36396 Port 23 Label ZVMCER01 Cipher RC4_128_SHA Connection
established.

So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or more
secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP log at
initialization:

 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS label
specified
.

I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the secure
connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request for the
secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Wondering if I am going box myself in here when I go to secure FTP connections
and PERFSVM web access.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.





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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Yes and add the line for 992 ..
or just change your 23 to 992 .. 

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SSL\TLS


Sweet. The you would have to comment out or remove:

; 23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER


Tyler



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I have something like this ..

  INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
PORT 992
SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED

TLSLABEL ZVMCER0

  ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS


Also:
In the SYSTEM DTCPARMS ... EXEMPT LOW makes it more secure..
:parms.KEYFile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb EXEMPT LOW MAXUSERS 200


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on
Behalf Of Tyler Koyl
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic
SSL\TLS


My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic SSL/TLS
connections? I have setup the Static SSL for Telnet by adding the following to
my TCPIP Profile:

 AUTOLOG
   SSLSERV  0
   FTPSERVE 0
 ENDAUTOLOG

PORT
  20   TCP FTPSERVE  NOAUTOLOG ; FTP SERVER
  21   TCP FTPSERVE; FTP SERVER
  23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 SSLSERVERID SSLSERV TIMEOUT 60

INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

I am using a sefl-signed cert and SSL seems to be working just fine. I have
tested this with x3270, c3270 and TN3270 (SDI) and I see the following in the
SSLSERV Log:

Client 10.254.3.81:36396 Port 23 Label ZVMCER01 Cipher RC4_128_SHA Connection
established.

So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or more
secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP log at
initialization:

 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS label
specified
.

I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the secure
connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request for the
secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Wondering if I am going box myself in here when I go to secure FTP connections
and PERFSVM web access.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.





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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/11/2009 at 02:17 EDT, Tyler Koyl tyler.k...@viterra.ca 
wrote:
 My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic 
SSL/TLS
 connections?

That depends on your client capability.  Some older telnet clients can't 
negotiate a secure connection.



 PORT
 23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
 ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

 So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or 
more
 secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP 
log at
 initialization:
 
 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS 
label
 specified
 .
 
 I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the 
secure
 connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request 
for the
 secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Please call it in.  The following are wrong:
- The text should say Unable to negotiate secure connections with 
clients, no TLS label specified.
- The explanation in Msgs  Codes should be updated to say that static 
connections are not affected.

The REQUIRED parameter means that a session must be negotiated to be 
secure OR it be statically protected.  If a connection has been statically 
protected, the telnet server knows and will not negotate a secure 
connection.

So as it is now, DTC335E is overstating the case IF there is a label 
present on the PORT statement.  Of course, you won't really know if a 
static connection has a hope of working until you try it.  (BTW, for those 
who care, static SSL is the same function that z/OS calls AT-TLS - 
Application Transparent TLS.)

The general rule is that negotiating and non-negotating clients cannot go 
to the same port as, typically, the client will only connect in a single 
way rather than try both.  I don't know of any client that will try to 
establish a TLS session first and then, if that fails, try to negotiate a 
TLS session on the same port.

So to handle both static and negotiating telnet clients:
- Add the same TLS label to the InternalClientParms as you have on the 
PORT statement
- Add a second PORT entry for another INTCLIEN, e.g. 10023
- Add port 23 port 10023 to the InternalClientParms
- Decide whether most of telnet client negotiate or if they require a 
static connection.  This decides whether port 23 will require static 
connections.
- If majority are static, leave port 23 as you have it.
- If majority negotiate, move the SECURE option from port 23 to port 
10023.
- Assuming the telnet client software isn't smart enough to try both ways, 
the set of clients that lost the race for port 23 must change their 
configuration to go to port 10023.

 Wondering if I am going box myself in here when I go to secure FTP 
connections
 and PERFSVM web access.

FTP will most likely be negotiated, though I have seen static clients.  A 
word about static FTP clients:
- Only inbound connections are secured, so 'passive' ftp is required
- A special form of the PORT statement is required.  See the book.
- You cannot use CCC to revert the command connection to clear-text. 
Firewalls cannot see the PASV or PORT commands and will not open a hole. 
So...
- You must use the PassivePortRange FTP server configuration statement and 
pre-define the port numbers that the FTP server will use to accept data 
connections, and...
- You must force those same port numbers open in the firewall.  This can 
be a death blow to the use of non-negotiating FTP clients or those that 
negotiate but do not support CCC.

Which brings me to a point about the support for  CCC (Clear Command 
Channel) that was added in z/VM 5.4.  If you have SECURECONTROL REQUIRED 
in the ftp server configuration, the ftp cannot use CCC.   Likewise, if 
you have SECUREDATA REQUIRED, the client cannot use the (new) CLEAR 
subcommand to in order to transfer data without encryption.

[NB.  The TCP/IP admin book has some unfortunate misspellings under 
SECURECONTROL.  Where it says 'NOW allowed' it means 'NOT allowed'.]

For PERFSVM, see the Performance Toolkit Guide, pp. 49-50.  Static SSL is 
the only method available, but you must do more than just alter the PORT 
statement.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802 - Static SSL vs Dynamic SSL\TLS

2009-03-11 Thread Tyler Koyl
Thanks for the info Alan. I will open an ETR with IBM about the incorrect
message tomorrow.

I  have Telnet setup to negotiate sessions (TLS) now so I have done the setup
both ways. going to stick with negotiated for Telnet and ftp.

It took me 2 days, but I got it. :).

Again,

Thanks for your time.


D. Tyler Koyl
Management Analyst
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Viterra
Tel (306) 569-6122
Fax (306) 569-4382
mailto:tyler.k...@viterra.ca
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On Wednesday, 03/11/2009 at 02:17 EDT, Tyler Koyl tyler.k...@viterra.ca
wrote:
 My next question is whether I should be going with Static SSL or Dynamic
SSL/TLS
 connections?

That depends on your client capability.  Some older telnet clients can't
negotiate a secure connection.



 PORT
 23   TCP INTCLIEN SECURE ZVMCER01 ; TELNET SERVER

 INTERNALCLIENTPARMS
 SECURECONNECTION REQUIRED
 ENDINTERNALCLIENTPARMS

 So at this point I am assuming that my telnet sessions are secure (or
more
 secure). However, I do get the following disturbing message in the TCPIP
log at
 initialization:

 DTCSTM305I Telnet server: Secure Connections are REQUIRED
 DTCSTM309I Telnet server: TLS Label is none
 DTCSTM335E Telnet server: Unable to handle secure connections, no TLS
label
 specified
 .

 I believe this means that the telnet server itself will not handle the
secure
 connections (Dynamic SSL\TLS) but rather TCPIP will forward the request
for the
 secure port to the SSLSERV (Static SSL).

Please call it in.  The following are wrong:
- The text should say Unable to negotiate secure connections with
clients, no TLS label specified.
- The explanation in Msgs  Codes should be updated to say that static
connections are not affected.

The REQUIRED parameter means that a session must be negotiated to be
secure OR it be statically protected.  If a connection has been statically
protected, the telnet server knows and will not negotate a secure
connection.

So as it is now, DTC335E is overstating the case IF there is a label
present on the PORT statement.  Of course, you won't really know if a
static connection has a hope of working until you try it.  (BTW, for those
who care, static SSL is the same function that z/OS calls AT-TLS -
Application Transparent TLS.)

The general rule is that negotiating and non-negotating clients cannot go
to the same port as, typically, the client will only connect in a single
way rather than try both.  I don't know of any client that will try to
establish a TLS session first and then, if that fails, try to negotiate a
TLS session on the same port.

So to handle both static and negotiating telnet clients:
- Add the same TLS label to the InternalClientParms as you have on the
PORT statement
- Add a second PORT entry for another INTCLIEN, e.g. 10023
- Add port 23 port 10023 to the InternalClientParms
- Decide whether most of telnet client negotiate or if they require a
static connection.  This decides whether port 23 will require static
connections.
- If majority are static, leave port 23 as you have it.
- If majority negotiate, move the SECURE option from port 23 to port
10023.
- Assuming the telnet client software isn't smart enough to try both ways,
the set of clients that lost the race for port 23 must change their
configuration to go to port 10023

Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802

2009-03-10 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I don't know.. do you have the SSL enabling PTF's on?

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Behalf Of Tyler Koyl
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:31 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802


Testing out z/VM 5.4 and would like to implement secure telnet, ftp etc using
the SSL server. I have gone through the TCPIP configuration and certificate
database creation of the SSL server but I get the following from SSLSERV when
the server is autologged by TCPIP:


DTCRUN1022I Console log will be sent to default owner ID: TCPMAINT
DTCRUN1011I Server started at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)
DTCRUN1011I Running server command: VMSSL
DTCRUN1011I Parameters in use:
DTCRUN1011I  keyfile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb
VMSSL program functions are not available
14:14:16  * MSG FROM SSLSERV : VMSSL PROGRAM FUNCTIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE
HCPMFS057I SSLSERV not receiving; disconnected
DTCRUN1015I Server ended with RC=8 at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)


I seem to not be able to find out WHY 'VMSSL program functions are not
available'.  I can only guess that it might be because we don't have any crypto
processors enabled but I am pretty dazed and confused at this point. Any help is
appreciated.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.


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Re: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802

2009-03-10 Thread Tyler Koyl
Thanks. Thats was it. I found the enablement PTFs and installed them. This is a
real PITA. From having to figure out that ssl needed to be enabled to finally
getting SSLSERV to initialize properly only after storing the database password
in a friggin stash file with the right permissions; made for a long day. I feel
cooked.


Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.






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I don't know.. do you have the SSL enabling PTF's on?

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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:31 PM
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Subject: SSL Server on z/VM 5.4 RSU 802


Testing out z/VM 5.4 and would like to implement secure telnet, ftp etc using
the SSL server. I have gone through the TCPIP configuration and certificate
database creation of the SSL server but I get the following from SSLSERV when
the server is autologged by TCPIP:


DTCRUN1022I Console log will be sent to default owner ID: TCPMAINT
DTCRUN1011I Server started at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)
DTCRUN1011I Running server command: VMSSL
DTCRUN1011I Parameters in use:
DTCRUN1011I  keyfile /etc/gskadm/Database.kdb
VMSSL program functions are not available
14:14:16  * MSG FROM SSLSERV : VMSSL PROGRAM FUNCTIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE
HCPMFS057I SSLSERV not receiving; disconnected
DTCRUN1015I Server ended with RC=8 at 14:14:16 on 10 Mar 2009 (Tuesday)


I seem to not be able to find out WHY 'VMSSL program functions are not
available'.  I can only guess that it might be because we don't have any crypto
processors enabled but I am pretty dazed and confused at this point. Any help is
appreciated.

Tyler Koyl
Viterra Inc.


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Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-02 Thread David Boyes
 Chocolates!! What Chocolates? 

Comes with the paid support option. 

You have to settle for cinnamon rolls if you just mooch the free
version...

-- db


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Hans Rempel
Hi Brian. I'm just testing SSL for a client and I used SSLSERV Debian from Sine 
Nomine Associates. Very small foot print. All tailored. DDR restore and go. 
Also recovers well after someone forced it off. 

Hans Rempel
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From: Brian Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:22:08 -0600

Folks,

Anybody have any suggestions as to the distro to use for the SSL server 
for TCPIP?

We are going to be setting up SSL servers, and are thinkig about what base 
Linux to use, obviously it should be a small one, but does anybody on the 
list have a suggestion?

Thanks,

Brian Ferguson
EDS VM Capability

 





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Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread David Boyes
Only SuSE and RH are officially supported by IBM. Both are not
particularly small. We provide a small appliance configuration that
seems to meet some people's needs. 


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Thomas Kern
I second this recommendation. Sine Nomine's SSLSERV has worked wonderfull
y
since I put it in. As indicated, this is a DDR restore and run distributi
on.
No package selection, no maintenance needed for the linux operating syste
m.
Then you have to add the IBM VMSSL stuff on top and then add a certificat
e
and then customize your TCPIP stack to use it.

/Tom Kern

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:56:30 -0500, Hans Rempel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Hi Brian. I'm just testing SSL for a client and I used SSLSERV Debian fr
om
Sine Nomine Associates. Very small foot print. All tailored. DDR restore 
and
go. Also recovers well after someone forced it off.

Hans Rempel


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Jones
I can recommend the SSL appliance thingy that Sine Nomine Associates 
offers...it works well, installs easily via DDR, and comes with a nice 
box of assorted chocolates.



DJ

Brian Ferguson wrote:

Folks,

Anybody have any suggestions as to the distro to use for the SSL server 
for TCPIP?


We are going to be setting up SSL servers, and are thinkig about what base 
Linux to use, obviously it should be a small one, but does anybody on the 
list have a suggestion?


Thanks,

Brian Ferguson
EDS VM Capability


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Rich Smrcina

Tom,

Did you get chocolates too?

Thomas Kern wrote:

I second this recommendation. Sine Nomine's SSLSERV has worked wonderfull
y
since I put it in. As indicated, this is a DDR restore and run distributi
on.
No package selection, no maintenance needed for the linux operating syste
m.
Then you have to add the IBM VMSSL stuff on top and then add a certificat
e
and then customize your TCPIP stack to use it.

/Tom Kern



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Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread David Boyes
 Did you get chocolates too?

You can also choose the coupon for cinnamon rolls. Personally, I recommend
the rolls. Chocolate is so yesterday. 8-)

-- db


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Thomas Kern
I didn't know I was supposed to get chocolates with SSLSERV. They might h
ave
made my certificate problems more bareable. 

/Tom

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:57:27 -0600, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
e:
Tom,

Did you get chocolates too?

Thomas Kern wrote:
I second this recommendation. Sine Nomine's SSLSERV has worked wonderful
ly
since I put it in. As indicated, this is a DDR restore and run distribut
ion.
No package selection, no maintenance needed for the linux operating syst
em.
Then you have to add the IBM VMSSL stuff on top and then add a certifica
te
and then customize your TCPIP stack to use it.

/Tom Kern


Re: SSL Server for z/VM

2007-02-01 Thread Hans Rempel
Chocolates!! What Chocolates? I too had a lot of problems with the
certificates but once HummingBird provided me with the SSL code for 2006 and
Patch 14 it worked well. 
Hans Rempel

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Thomas Kern
Sent: February 1, 2007 2:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SSL Server for z/VM

I didn't know I was supposed to get chocolates with SSLSERV. They might h=
ave
made my certificate problems more bareable. 

/Tom

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:57:27 -0600, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot=
e:
Tom,

Did you get chocolates too?

Thomas Kern wrote:
I second this recommendation. Sine Nomine's SSLSERV has worked wonderful=
ly
since I put it in. As indicated, this is a DDR restore and run distribut=
ion.
No package selection, no maintenance needed for the linux operating syst=
em.
Then you have to add the IBM VMSSL stuff on top and then add a certifica=
te
and then customize your TCPIP stack to use it.

/Tom Kern