Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Florian Bilek wrote: > Rob, > > I would also be interested to get this code. >>> Another userful thing that does not do what was asked for... I am >>> very fond of Perry's SWAPCONS that does fullscreen on a dialed GRAF >>> and linemode output on your normal terminal. Great if you want to >>> trace REXX code that drives (XEDIT) full screen. Perry just reminded me the source is (since 1991!) on VMSHARE: http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/read?fn=SWAPCONS&ft=NOTE&line=1 If people have trouble building and using it, we might need a package on the VM Download pages. R;
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
Rob, I would also be interested to get this code. Florian On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:41:15 -0400, Alex wrote: >is this code available, if so from where? > >Alex >- Original Message - >From: "Rob van der Heij" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:10 AM >Subject: Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session > > >> Another userful thing that does not do what was asked for... I am >> very fond of Perry's SWAPCONS that does fullscreen on a dialed GRAF >> and linemode output on your normal terminal. Great if you want to >> trace REXX code that drives (XEDIT) full screen. >> >> R; >> >> >> >> >> === >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15370) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ===
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
is this code available, if so from where? Alex - Original Message - From: "Rob van der Heij" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session Another userful thing that does not do what was asked for... I am very fond of Perry's SWAPCONS that does fullscreen on a dialed GRAF and linemode output on your normal terminal. Great if you want to trace REXX code that drives (XEDIT) full screen. R; === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15370) http://www.pctools.com/ ===
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
> I'll second what Mike said about TRACEXEC. It's a great tool. It's > not > going to do what you envisioned originally as far as working with two > screens, but you should consider TRACEXEC anyway. If you do go the two-userids-with-SFS route, also consider SESSION. It allows you to log into one userid, run SESSION PFx, and then you can switch sessions with a PF key. You can have lots of named sessions, each on a different userid. Again, not exactly what you wanted, but enormously handy for those moments when you need to check something on another id without having to start a whole new session.
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
Another userful thing that does not do what was asked for... I am very fond of Perry's SWAPCONS that does fullscreen on a dialed GRAF and linemode output on your normal terminal. Great if you want to trace REXX code that drives (XEDIT) full screen. R;
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
I'll second what Mike said about TRACEXEC. It's a great tool. It's not going to do what you envisioned originally as far as working with two screens, but you should consider TRACEXEC anyway. Jim On 7/6/2010 1:31 PM, Mike Walter wrote: Florian, By now you've received a number of excellent tips. Nonetheless, take a look at TRACEXEC on the IBM VM Download page. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TRACEXEC It never hurts to have more tools than you might need at the moment, or at least know about their existence. The brief package description includes -- TRACEXEC is a tool for analyzing and debugging EXEC applications. It does about five different things: TRACEXEC is an interactive debugger for interpreted REXX execs. You'll never need to modify code by inserting TRACE instructions again; just use TRACEXEC to set or clear breakpoints. You can set breakpoints using line-mode commands, or you can do it in a visual mode via an Xedit interface. If you don't need the full level of tracing control provided by TRACEXEC, you can still use it to specify that the EXECTRAC flag should be automatically turned on, or off, for specific execs. This can be useful for tracing a single exec buried deep within an application, as well as for tracing non-REXX execs. TRACEXEC is a run-time profiler for interpreted REXX execs. It can record both frequency of execution and CPU usage for each line within a REXX exec. TRACEXEC is a run-time profiler for EXEC applications. It records both frequency of execution and CPU usage for each EXEC within a multi-exec application. All interpreted and compiled EXEC languages are supported. TRACEXEC can be used to reveal the flow of logic in a multi-exec application, by displaying a message when an exec is entered (showing the exec name and arguments) or exited (showing CPU time and return code). All interpreted and compiled EXEC languages are supported. This is TRACEXEC Version 2.06. If you have questions or comments about TRACEXEC, contact Kent Fiala. -- I confess to never having tried it, but have read through the doc... pretty cool! Regards, Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Florian Bilek" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 07/05/2010 12:14 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Second screen in a z/VM CMS session Dear all, I am wondering if there is a utility available that would allow to use a dialed screen to a VM running CMS? As I understand, there is the possibility to make multitasking applications under CMS. Also full screen is supported nowadays. It would be great to have on one screen a REXX procedure edited while on the VM console that exec could be tested. Thank you very much in advance. -- James Bohnsack (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
Florian, By now you've received a number of excellent tips. Nonetheless, take a look at TRACEXEC on the IBM VM Download page. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TRACEXEC It never hurts to have more tools than you might need at the moment, or at least know about their existence. The brief package description includes -- TRACEXEC is a tool for analyzing and debugging EXEC applications. It does about five different things: TRACEXEC is an interactive debugger for interpreted REXX execs. You'll never need to modify code by inserting TRACE instructions again; just use TRACEXEC to set or clear breakpoints. You can set breakpoints using line-mode commands, or you can do it in a visual mode via an Xedit interface. If you don't need the full level of tracing control provided by TRACEXEC, you can still use it to specify that the EXECTRAC flag should be automatically turned on, or off, for specific execs. This can be useful for tracing a single exec buried deep within an application, as well as for tracing non-REXX execs. TRACEXEC is a run-time profiler for interpreted REXX execs. It can record both frequency of execution and CPU usage for each line within a REXX exec. TRACEXEC is a run-time profiler for EXEC applications. It records both frequency of execution and CPU usage for each EXEC within a multi-exec application. All interpreted and compiled EXEC languages are supported. TRACEXEC can be used to reveal the flow of logic in a multi-exec application, by displaying a message when an exec is entered (showing the exec name and arguments) or exited (showing CPU time and return code). All interpreted and compiled EXEC languages are supported. This is TRACEXEC Version 2.06. If you have questions or comments about TRACEXEC, contact Kent Fiala. -- I confess to never having tried it, but have read through the doc... pretty cool! Regards, Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Florian Bilek" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 07/05/2010 12:14 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Second screen in a z/VM CMS session Dear all, I am wondering if there is a utility available that would allow to use a dialed screen to a VM running CMS? As I understand, there is the possibility to make multitasking applications under CMS. Also full screen is supported nowadays. It would be great to have on one screen a REXX procedure edited while on the VM console that exec could be tested. Thank you very much in advance. -- Best regards Florian The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
Dear Peter, I looked already into Yvette some time ago but it does the other way roun d. It is a session manager. With Yvette you can logon to DIFFERENT VM guests from ONE screen. I would like to have multiple screens to ONE VM guest. A more appropriate tool is CONINT also from the IBM utility download site . It allows to switch between several tasks in CMS. Here the xedit session would be one task and the testing of the REXX exec is another task. It is possible to switch between those tasks but a second screen is also not supported. However CONINT doesn't run under z/VM 5.4. respectively the actual CMS versions. Seems that the proposal of Kris is the only real practical solution. Thank you for that. Kind regards, Florian On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:48:02 -0400, peter.w...@ttc.ca wrote: >Hi Florian, > > > >It sounds like you want Yvette from the VM downloads page. > > > >Peter > > > >-Original Message- >From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On >Behalf Of Florian Bilek >Sent: July 5, 2010 13:15 >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >Subject: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session > > > >Dear all, > >I am wondering if there is a utility available that would allow to use a >dialed screen to a VM running CMS? > >As I understand, there is the possibility to make multitasking >applications under CMS. Also full screen is supported nowadays. >It would be great to have on one screen a REXX procedure edited while on >the VM console that exec could be tested. > >Thank you very much in advance. > >-- >Best regards > >Florian > > > >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or tak ing any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the cont ent of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. >
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
I think its much easier to define yourself a second userid and place the code to test in SFS, yielding one user to test, the other to XEDIT the code. That's how I worked for years. Can e done without SFS too, but then the tester would have to reACCESS the code minidisk after each change. Multitasking is only really usable from C or Assembler programs (and by MtRexx), anyhow: for service machines. Special applications could indeed use dialed screens, but I don't know any. 2010/7/5 > Hi Florian, > > > > It sounds like you want Yvette from the VM downloads page. > > > > Peter > > > > -Original Message- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Florian Bilek > *Sent:* July 5, 2010 13:15 > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > *Subject:* Second screen in a z/VM CMS session > > > > Dear all, > > I am wondering if there is a utility available that would allow to use a > dialed screen to a VM running CMS? > > As I understand, there is the possibility to make multitasking applications > under CMS. Also full screen is supported nowadays. > It would be great to have on one screen a REXX procedure edited while on > the VM console that exec could be tested. > > Thank you very much in advance. > > -- > Best regards > > Florian > > -- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking > any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other > than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you > received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material > from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be > guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content > of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of > information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any > attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer > is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any > manner. > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session
Hi Florian, It sounds like you want Yvette from the VM downloads page. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Florian Bilek Sent: July 5, 2010 13:15 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Second screen in a z/VM CMS session Dear all, I am wondering if there is a utility available that would allow to use a dialed screen to a VM running CMS? As I understand, there is the possibility to make multitasking applications under CMS. Also full screen is supported nowadays. It would be great to have on one screen a REXX procedure edited while on the VM console that exec could be tested. Thank you very much in advance. -- Best regards Florian The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner.
