z/VM 5.1 on z196
The question came up today as to whether z/VM 5.1 will run on a z196. I know there are no 5.1 PTF's available for z196 support. How about z/VM 5.4, will it run WITHOUT the z196 PTF's?... Any guesses? or experiences? Thanks
z/VM 5.1 on z196
The question came up today as to whether z/VM 5.1 will run on a z196. I know there are no 5.1 PTF's available for z196 support. How about z/VM 5.4, will it run WITHOUT the z196 PTF's?... Any guesses? or experiences? As z/VM 5.1 was never tested on a z196 we cannot provide an outlook of how it will behave. However, given the nature of changes made to z/VM 5.4 and 6.1 to support z196, you may encounter unexpected, undesirable side effects. Given upgrading to z/VM 5.4, or better yet 6.1, is straight forward, why not pursue this avenue rather than rely on knowns? Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
Thanks Les, that is pretty much what I suspected. The problem is the upgrade path. We currently have a z9 so 6.1 is not an option on this machine. So when the time comes to swap CPU.s what OS can I IPL on the z196 that I have tested on the z9? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: The question came up today as to whether z/VM 5.1 will run on a z196. I know there are no 5.1 PTF's available for z196 support. How about z/VM 5.4, will it run WITHOUT the z196 PTF's?... Any guesses? or experiences? As z/VM 5.1 was never tested on a z196 we cannot provide an outlook of how it will behave. However, given the nature of changes made to z/VM 5.4 and 6.1 to support z196, you may encounter unexpected, undesirable side effects. Given upgrading to z/VM 5.4, or better yet 6.1, is straight forward, why not pursue this avenue rather than rely on knowns? Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt, wore it, and put it in a draw never to wear it again.. The path of choice given the hardware, software, expiration dates, and upward and downward compatibility issue is: z/VM 5.4 on z9 to z196 with the 14 APARs for 5.4 that support it and then move to z/VM 6.whatever but not 6.1 which: has a shorter expiration than 5.4 not much more function to offer than 5.4 does not run on a z9 anyway. Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/24/2010 04:32 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196 Thanks Les, that is pretty much what I suspected. The problem is the upgrade path. We currently have a z9 so 6.1 is not an option on this machine. So when the time comes to swap CPU.s what OS can I IPL on the z196 that I have tested on the z9? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Les Geer (607-429-3580) g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: The question came up today as to whether z/VM 5.1 will run on a z196. I know there are no 5.1 PTF's available for z196 support. How about z/VM 5.4, will it run WITHOUT the z196 PTF's?... Any guesses? or experiences? As z/VM 5.1 was never tested on a z196 we cannot provide an outlook of how it will behave. However, given the nature of changes made to z/VM 5.4 and 6.1 to support z196, you may encounter unexpected, undesirable side effects. Given upgrading to z/VM 5.4, or better yet 6.1, is straight forward, why not pursue this avenue rather than rely on knowns? Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
George, are you saying that even AFTER the 14 PTF's for z196 support z/VM 5.4 still runs on a z9? If so that clears up a misconception I had, and also makes life much easier. Thakns On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:00 PM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt, wore it, and put it in a draw never to wear it again.. The path of choice given the hardware, software, expiration dates, and upward and downward compatibility issue is: - z/VM 5.4 on z9 - to z196 with the 14 APARs for 5.4 that support it - and then move to z/VM 6.whatever - but not 6.1 which: - has a shorter expiration than 5.4 - not much more function to offer than 5.4 - does not run on a z9 anyway. *Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com* Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/24/2010 04:32 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196 Thanks Les, that is pretty much what I suspected. The problem is the upgrade path. We currently have a z9 so 6.1 is not an option on this machine. So when the time comes to swap CPU.s what OS can I IPL on the z196 that I have tested on the z9? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Les Geer (607-429-3580) * g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com* g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: The question came up today as to whether z/VM 5.1 will run on a z196. I know there are no 5.1 PTF's available for z196 support. How about z/VM 5.4, will it run WITHOUT the z196 PTF's?... Any guesses? or experiences? As z/VM 5.1 was never tested on a z196 we cannot provide an outlook of how it will behave. However, given the nature of changes made to z/VM 5.4 and 6.1 to support z196, you may encounter unexpected, undesirable side effects. Given upgrading to z/VM 5.4, or better yet 6.1, is straight forward, why not pursue this avenue rather than rely on knowns? Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
Not George here, but that is correct. 5.4 will get you from there to here and the ptfs will run on the z9 as well. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.1 on z196 George, are you saying that even AFTER the 14 PTF's for z196 support z/VM 5.4 still runs on a z9? If so that clears up a misconception I had, and also makes life much easier.
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
Running z/VM 5.4 with the 14 APARs now on z9. Thanks to Marcy PK97799 VM64656 VM64672 VM64747 VM64774 VM64793 VM64798 VM64799 VM64807 VM64818 VM64820 VM64879 VM64881 VM64891 They can be found at: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209dc=DB540q1=z196uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/24/2010 05:33 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196 Not George here, but that is correct. 5.4 will get you from there to here and the ptfs will run on the z9 as well. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.1 on z196 George, are you saying that even AFTER the 14 PTF's for z196 support z/VM 5.4 still runs on a z9? If so that clears up a misconception I had, and also makes life much easier.
Re: z/VM 5.1 on z196
Excellent!! Thanks, and have a happy Thanksgiving. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Not George here, but that is correct. 5.4 will get you from there to here and the ptfs will run on the z9 as well. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.1 on z196 George, are you saying that even AFTER the 14 PTF's for z196 support z/VM 5.4 still runs on a z9? If so that clears up a misconception I had, and also makes life much easier.
