Re: [IceHorses] laminitis - thanks for the help

2007-05-10 Thread Skye Lee~Fire Island Farms

--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> one thing that works incredible and sounds ludicrously simple---
> stand the horse on a thick sheet of styrofoam and draw an outline
> around the hoof, cut it out, duct tape it to the feet.  you will
> not
> believe how it stays on, and it is like they have on bedroom
> slippers
> :)  works incredible for hoof soreness of any kind.
> Janice
> -- 
> yipie tie yie yo
> 




Yes that is extremly helpful in the beginning stages...Sally and I
use a foam kickboard that they sell over here, it has the similar
density that the Gene Ovineck site sells.   When Gene was here and
Sally got to study with him one on one for 2 full days he talked
about the styrofoam that they use.  They tested every type of
styrofoam they could find, and they use the one they sell one their
website because it produced the most comfort for the horses..not too
stiff not too soft...it comes precut, but buying any styrofoam will
help a lot if your horse is in any discomfort.

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Re: [IceHorses] laminitis - thanks for the help

2007-05-10 Thread Robyn Schulze
On 5/10/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> one thing that works incredible and sounds ludicrously simple---
> stand the horse on a thick sheet of styrofoam and draw an outline
> around the hoof, cut it out, duct tape it to the feet.  you will not
> believe how it stays on, and it is like they have on bedroom slippers
> :)  works incredible for hoof soreness of any kind.
> Janice

I've read this too--fantastic idea! Thanks for the reminder on it, Janice.
 I do like doing the barefoot thing too, altho Santana is ouchy enough
that I use Boas on him in the front. I may do the same w/ Shadow.
Kathleen uses Boas (I think) on her Icey mare and likes them--I don't
think she's had any problems.

Robyn


[IceHorses] double KK

2007-05-10 Thread Docnshop2
My preferred blade is the andis T84.  It is a wide blade.  It  leaves the 
hair slightly longer than the size 10 Oster blades.  The Oster  10 wide also 
works well and is a lot easier to find.
 
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Re: [IceHorses] Luke and the Kids

2007-05-10 Thread Cherie Mascis
The goatie kids are too cute.  Luke makes a good toy!

Cherie


RE: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?

2007-05-10 Thread Lorraine Voog

> 
> >
> > >>> I think the red chocolate term used by Rocky
> breeders is what
> >Icelanders call silver bay if I am not mistaken.
> 

Gorgeous horsie.

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Re: [IceHorses] Double KK owners?

2007-05-10 Thread pippa258
Raven wrote:
> Hi...to those who clip with the Double KK clippers, what size blades
> do you use on your Icelandics?   Thanks!
>   
Hi Raven,

I use the A5 blades that Country Supply sells10W.  They run between 
$16-$19, depending on the time of year they sell them.  I saw a blade 
the other day called the T85 (I think by Andis) and they are really 
wide.  Think I will try them next time.

Trish




Re: [IceHorses] Double KK owners?

2007-05-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/05/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/05/07, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi...to those who clip with the Double KK clippers, what size blades
> > do you use on your Icelandics?   Thanks!
>
> Hi Raven:
>
> I have an Oster Cryotech 3F - leaves 1/2" hair (I've used this on
> Gusti)  $69.99 (yikes)

I found it on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/DOG-CAT-Grooming-Oster-A5-Cryogen-X-Agion-Blade-3F-3fc_W0QQitemZ270119185086QQihZ017QQcategoryZ46304QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Re: [IceHorses] Double KK owners?

2007-05-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/05/07, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi...to those who clip with the Double KK clippers, what size blades
> do you use on your Icelandics?   Thanks!

Hi Raven:

I have an Oster Cryotech 3F - leaves 1/2" hair (I've used this on
Gusti)  $69.99 (yikes)

AND

I also have an Oster Cryogen-X 7F - leaves 1/8" of hair (this is brand
new) and I can't remember why I bought it.  It was slightly less dear
- priced at $59.99.

I won't be clipping until this fall when their winter coats come in
and it's too warm for them - so I won't be able to test it until then.

I think I'll be checking ebay for replacement blades.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Judy Ryder
> >>> I'm not sure that we're all talking about the
> same bit.  Can you point
> us to the bit on the internet somewhere?
> 
> I thought Virginia said she doesn't know exactly
> what bit she's using...?


That's sorta my point.

If we don't know what bit it is, we don't know the
mechanics of it, or how it affects the horse.

We can't give an answer if we don't know what the question is about.


Judy
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RE: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
 Maybe the bit is harsh and the horse is light to avoid the pressure, so
that coupled with not having to be a lesson horse anymore is changing how
the horse is responding.


And remember, no bit is ALWAYS harsh, if the rider has soft enough hands to
compensate for any possible harshness.   The bit some of us are thinking it
MIGHT be, a so-called Tom Thumb "Snaffle" (which isn't a snaffle at all) CAN
be a harsh bit...and probably often is.  But I know some horses who are
ridden in it who don't seem bothered by it.  Some of it probably has to do
with the individual conformation of the horse's mouth and how loose the
reins are.(One note: you may be aware that some of us often complain
about the use of the Icelandic bit in competition.   That bit is very
similar to a Tom Thumb snaffle, BUT I have NEVER seen an Icelandic
competition rider riding with anything approaching a loose rein...  A harsh
bit in hard hands is a no-no!)

Another thing not to rule out as a POSSIBLE factor in the horse's change.
You said she changed bits AND saddles, right?  The saddle change could just
as easily be the major factor here.  She could be moving with more energy
because this saddle is more comfortable...or she could be jiggy and antsy
because this saddle fits worse.  Some people might mistakenly view jigging
and antsiness as "more energetic" when really it only means the mare is
uncomfortable.

Karen Thomas
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RE: [IceHorses] This is the BIG weekend!

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Alex and Gat have their first show on Sunday--Mothers Day.  Should be
fun!  Except we have to be on site at 6:30 am and since the site is about an
hour away I won't be sleeping in on 'my' day!

I remember those days with fondness...except the leaving home before the
crack of dawn parts!   In variably they put the little ones first on the
program, so that means getting up awfully early.  Tell Alex that I'll be
thinking of her, and that Emily and Thunder wish her lots of luck!

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[IceHorses] Nancy's posts

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
I keep seeing people responding to Nancy's posts, but I haven't seen one
from her in a while - and I enjoy reading what she has to say!   I checked
my spam folder and they aren't going to spam.  Anyone have any idea why
yahoo would selectively block a particular user, and possibly just to me?  I
seem to remember this happening once, years ago, but I can't remember now
what was happening.

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RE: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I'm not sure that we're all talking about the same bit.  Can you point
us to the bit on the internet somewhere?

I thought Virginia said she doesn't know exactly what bit she's using...?



Karen Thomas
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[IceHorses] Long shank snaffle

2007-05-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
There is a long shank snaffle for sale on e-Bay Item #  170110318813

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170110318813&category=47303

Carefully used with light hands, this bit may be ok to use, but it has the 
potential to apply a nut cracker action to the horse's jaw.

I have always held that there isn't much you can't teach a horse in a regular 
D-ring or round snaffle.

Like most statements of that type, this one came back to bite me.  My Tennessee 
Walking Horse does not go well in a snaffle.  I tried a kimberwick.  That 
wasn't a whole lot better.  Finally, I joined my Arab-riding endurance friends 
and started using something they call an S-hack.  It's a gentle hackamore type 
bit.

A couple of days ago, after having owned Hunter for two years, I discovered he 
has a pretty good piece  cut out of the end of his tongue and a crease-like 
scar above that.

No wonder he wasn't comfortable with a bit in his mouth.  I feel pretty stupid, 
but I'm glad I had the sense to give up when I did.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] Luke and the Kids

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/10/07, Sue McKenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally uploaded something to YouTube.  Now onto the horses.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLrNugqWW2g


Awww, now that is cute!!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/10/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure that we're all talking about the same bit.  Can you point us to
> the bit on the internet somewhere?
>


I haven't seen the bit myself.  I'll ask my friend.
V


Re: [IceHorses] This is the BIG weekend!

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/10/07, Nancy  Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be hard to improve on Alex' s leg and foot position.  Very pretty 
> little rider.


She lifts her head up though and I asked her if it was because of
Gat's mane in her face but she said she didn't know--after this
weekend maybe we'll know because I'm going to try braiding.  :D
V


[IceHorses] Luke and the Kids

2007-05-10 Thread Sue McKenney
I finally uploaded something to YouTube.  Now onto the horses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLrNugqWW2g

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Re: [IceHorses] This is the BIG weekend!

2007-05-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
It would be hard to improve on Alex' s leg and foot position.  Very pretty 
little rider.

Nancy


[IceHorses] Parekki & Vaccines

2007-05-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
Really?

The sister of the girl who introduced us to Icelandics is disabled because of a 
childhood vaccine.  She uses her Icelandic Lina as a therapy horse.

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread bia
I have killed 2 rattlessnakes in my life ...I've been able to chase most of
them away... I killed them with the head of a flat shovel like a
guillotine...don't throw the head anywhere where another creature or child
can eat it though...




Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Judy Ryder
>> Picture?
>
> I doubt I could get a picture as my friend rides at another barn.


I'm not sure that we're all talking about the same bit.  Can you point us to 
the bit on the internet somewhere?


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Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/10/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The key is where the reins are attached - if they are attached even with the
> mouthpiece, the bit is a snaffle.  If the reins are attached at the end of
> the "long metal piece"  (below the mouthpiece) then the bit is a curb.
> Curbs can have either broken mouthpieces or one-piece mouths, just as
> snaffles can.


I'll find out. :D
V


Re: [IceHorses] Nasi color update

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/10/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> it is vaccinate, because Pat Parelli's son had a reaction to a shot
> that left him disabled.
> Janice


Ahh, I see.
V


RE: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Maybe the bit is harsh and the horse is light to avoid the pressure, so
that coupled with not having to be a lesson horse anymore is changing how
the horse is responding.

It could be...or it could be that the mare is perking up because she has a
relaxed rider that she trusts and now knows what to expect.   I bought my
old QH horse because he was a safe, been-there, done-that kind of gelding
that I could put anyone on, but after a few weeks here, he started relaxing,
and seemed to like me...and I in turn really started liking him.   It wasn't
long before he was fairly willing to move out when I rode him, and I'm
pretty sure it was simply because we meshed and bonded, not because of any
harsh tack.  He always seemed kind of lazy to other people, but I never had
to nag him to keep moving, not after we meshed.

This is why owning horses is so complicated.   The same symptoms can reflect
so many different things.   You need to see the symptoms in context to truly
grasp what's going on, and even then, it's often very hard.  :)

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RE: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>> I don't think it was a full cheek snaffle because my friend would
recognize that--she said it looked like a snaffle but had long metal pieces
coming down.

The key is where the reins are attached - if they are attached even with the
mouthpiece, the bit is a snaffle.  If the reins are attached at the end of
the "long metal piece"  (below the mouthpiece) then the bit is a curb.
Curbs can have either broken mouthpieces or one-piece mouths, just as
snaffles can.


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Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/9/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Ask her what part is similar to an English snaffle - does it have a
> broken mouthpiece?  Is she neck reining or direct reining?

She said the bit was broken like a snaffle.  And she is neck reining.


> The bit doesn't make the horse light - the rider, coupled with the horse's
> prior training makes him/her light.   Even things like saddle fit and fear,
> confusion can contribute to the feeling of lightness vs. heaviness.

Her horse was the most dead-broke, dull horse in the lesson barn that
all the kids and newbies banged on to make move--kicking didn't help
much so crops were used.  The horse was so dulled out she was like in
a comadead and heavy.

She moved to the new barn maybe 2 weeks ago and has had 2 lessons in
Western with the new bit and saddle.  According to my friend her horse
seems happier, lighter and more responsive.

It's possible the horse had been Western trained years before it
became a English lesson horse but I don't know.

V


Re: [IceHorses] laminitis - thanks for the help

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
one thing that works incredible and sounds ludicrously simple---
stand the horse on a thick sheet of styrofoam and draw an outline
around the hoof, cut it out, duct tape it to the feet.  you will not
believe how it stays on, and it is like they have on bedroom slippers
:)  works incredible for hoof soreness of any kind.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/9/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'm curious--is her horse lighter and more responsive because of the
> shanked bit?  What does a shanked bit do?
> V
>

probably so!  and if she ever accidentally yanks on him he will rear!
I put long shanks on my Jaspar one day and he wasnt used to it, he
started too fast down a steep steep hill and I jerked on the reins too
hard accidentally, and he threw himself sideways and fell down on his
rear over the side of the hill and I fell off.
Janice

-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
This horse's responses may also be getting better because she has only one 
person riding her and therefore only one set of aids to understand.

I can't think of anything more boring/depressing for a horse than being a 
lesson horse for several riders.

We bought the horse my grandson was taking lessons on and later, when Gabe 
outgrew hum, sold him to a teen beginner rider.  She uses him in high school 
equestrian team and takes the wonderful care of him that many girls lavish on 
their horses.  It's been a very nice move for Dakota.

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] Nasi color update

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/10/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking about worming...I was reading that the Parelli's do not worm
> their horse, or was that vaccinate .. maybe both, I forget.
> Interesting.
> V
>


it is vaccinate, because Pat Parelli's son had a reaction to a shot
that left him disabled.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] Double KK owners?

2007-05-10 Thread Raven
Hi...to those who clip with the Double KK clippers, what size blades
do you use on your Icelandics?   Thanks!

Raven
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Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/10/07, bia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [IceHorses] y!
>
>
> > Janice,
> > don't worry so much about snakes... ..Please don't kill snakes.
> > They are extrememly beneficial creatures.
>
> Not much you can do about the chickens though when you're not around! (had
> to add that!), LOL! They are fair game.
>
>
I dont kill snakes unless they are poisonous and in my yard.  If they
are poisonous and in my yard I have to kill them or relocate and
sometimes its dangerous to try and trap them.
Janice>


-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/9/07, Jeannette Hoenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> most western riders are using the full cheek snaffle, like the one Lyons has
> encouraged more use of.

I don't think it was a full cheek snaffle because my friend would
recognize that--she said it looked like a snaffle but had long metal
pieces coming down.

I'll ask her to ask her coach what it is.
V


Re: [IceHorses] Western/English

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 5/9/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Picture?

I doubt I could get a picture as my friend rides at another barn.


> Depends.  It depends on how the horse was trained; maybe whether he goes by
> "control" or "communication".  Does he respond to the rider's body more than
> the bit?


Her mare was a school horse used in English riding lessons--all the
kids and adult newbies rode her because she was/is very calm, but she
was ridden so much her hooves were worn down too much (according to
the farrier) so my friend wouldn't allow her to be used as a lesson
horse anymore after she bought her.  Then shortly after they moved to
another barn.  Since the move and the Western riding with new bit,
etc, my friend says her horse is waking up and is much more lively and
responsive.

Maybe the bit is harsh and the horse is light to avoid the pressure,
so that coupled with not having to be a lesson horse anymore is
changing how the horse is responding.

V


Re: [IceHorses] Nasi color update

2007-05-10 Thread Virginia Tupper
Speaking about worming...I was reading that the Parelli's do not worm
their horse, or was that vaccinate .. maybe both, I forget.
Interesting.
V


Re: [IceHorses] laminitis - thanks for the help

2007-05-10 Thread janine simonell
I was searching the archives when I wrote my last post and it got stuck to an 
old thread from 2003 so I’m starting fresh.  
  Thank you all for your encouraging words and sharing your wealth of 
information. 
  You brought up so many issues that I hadn’t even considered.  I’ve printed 
all your replies and I’ll be checking out all the links, lists & references 
you’ve sent.  It will also be good info to have on hand when we see the vet 
next Monday. 
 
  The mention of IR, Cushings and Thyroid have me most concerned, I have to 
question why my vet didn’t even bring this up, she just said “overweight”.  
I’ll pose this to her on our next visit and feel out her position on it.   If 
she isn’t receptive to looking into it I’ll find someone who is.  I had a blood 
test done when I first brought him home (3yrs ago) as a baseline.  I imagine if 
we did another something like this would show up. I’ll be diligent about his 
diet this may be the single most important thing I can do for him. 

  Judy asked about the supplement I’ve been giving him “born to win” by Purina. 
I’ve been giving him that along with grass hay.  Here’s the info on it. 
http://horse.purinamills.com/products/born_to_win.asp Susan and Sky gave me 
several more options.

  I did get the vet to concede on the 2 weeks stall rest.  For almost 4 days 
he’s been on 4” of cool damp sand and he doesn’t seem “ouchy” at all.  She said 
we can start taking walks tonight. I agree that exercise is very important.  
Once I see him walking on solid ground again I’ll be able to evaluate his 
progress. Karen, I’ll insist on the xrays if I don’t see improvement.  I hadn’t 
considered it earlier and it wasn’t suggested.  She did use a Hoof tester but 
didn’t get much of a response.   I’ll be more observant next visit

  You all seemed to concur that a good trim was very important.  Safi is almost 
always barefoot except for a couple of rough rocky campouts when my friends 
requested I shoe him so they wouldn’t have to cut their trip short if we got 
into some trouble.  I succumbed to the pressure and he didn’t seem any worse 
off for it.  After the ride we pulled the shoes and he was fine.  That was 
almost a year ago, he hasn’t had shoes since. I’m not opposed to shoes, 
slippers, and boots but certainly I’d prefer to go barefoot if it’s an option. 

  Our Farrier usually comes out every 8-12 weeks.  I was surprised by Safi’s 
growth ‘cause it had been less than 3 weeks since his last trim. It seemed like 
an awful lot of growth in a short time.  Also the way he was standing with his 
front legs sort of “parked out” made his foot look longer.  He’s standing 
straight with his legs underneath him now.   The new farrier is certified 
“natural Balance” and I believe he studied with Gene Ovnicks who Skye 
mentioned.  I’m also hookin’ up with Robyn she lives locally and can recommend 
her farrier, she’s also been very successful in trimming her own horse who had 
problems.

  I’ll be so busy reading and doing research I may not miss riding too much.  I 
did sign up to audit the Liz Graves clinic here.  What a shame that Safi will 
miss it, but we’ll both benefit from it.

  Thanks again, for taking the time to respond I know how valuable time is and 
I appreciate you giving so much of yours.
  Janine –n- Safi



 
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Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread bia
Subject: Re: [IceHorses] y!


> Janice,
> don't worry so much about snakes... ..Please don't kill snakes.
> They are extrememly beneficial creatures.

Not much you can do about the chickens though when you're not around! (had
to add that!), LOL! They are fair game.




RE: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> He could turn out  " sótraudur Hrimfextur " Liverchesnut with "frosty
mane"never found a word for Hrimfextur in English  Hrimfextur is not the
same as Glofextur =Flaxen mane & tale   Sótraudur Hrimfextur is pretty rare
and beatifull color.

I wondered about liver chestnut when I saw the colt, since his mane looked
so dark red...of course, I'm only guessing from pictures, and foals are hard
enough to see true colors even when you see them in the flesh.  :)


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] Re: New to lcelandics..all that HAIR!! Nancy

2007-05-10 Thread Nancy Sturm
Hi Zoe,

We had Saanens and Nubians.   Our daughters started off showing in 4-H and FFA 
and then we went on to show in the open shows.  We did go to the National show 
once but it was before we had our nicer does.

I really enjoyed everything about owning goats and still miss them, however not 
the necessity to be home at a given time twcice a day.  We were very rigid 
about our milking schedule.

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread bia
Janice,
don't worry so much about snakes... all snakes will avoid human contact
unless provoked in some way. It could be any kind of snake... black snakes,
which are HARMLESS get huge... I'm a snake lover. Unless you are attacking a
snake or near it's nest (or you are hiking and not watching your step) they
will leave you alone, even under your house. It's a good idea to keep rattle
snakes away from personal space because you will automatically provoke them
by trying to get them to leave the area. But they are NOT faster than you
when it comes to killing them first so don't worry. Usually a tap with a
stick will get them moving on. or a bee bee gun...Please don't kill snakes.
They are extrememly beneficial creatures.




[IceHorses] Re: New to lcelandics..all that HAIR!! Nancy

2007-05-10 Thread wcobpony

> Zoe:  You showed goats?  Us too.  And we did complete clips on each 
doe- what a job!  They were elegant and beautiful when clipped, however.
> 
> Nancy Sturm in Oregon
>

Nancy what breed of goats did you have? I had Nubians mainly Fra-jac 
 and Longman lines which were from Oregon. One breeder up here bought 
 most of the Fra-jac herd and another brought in quite a few from Betty 
 longmans herd.
 
 Zoe and Emmy( Ebla fra Ytri Skogum) in BC 
 



Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/05/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmmm  letseee,  bugs the size of cats versus ice cubes in water
> troughs the size of boulders, or leseee, bugs the size of cats versus
> icecycles growing six inches off your nose hairs, h, what do I
> choose what to choose
> Janice

Oh Janice...don't be such a chickenand we tend to clip our nose
hairs so icicles don't form ;)..

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Nasi color update

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/10/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/05/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nasi's color seems a little different this spring, somewhat lighter,
> > points very black, but he seems to be shedding very slowly for some
> > reason?!  Anyone know why that would be?
>
> Janice, I find that if one or two of my horses are shedding slower
> than the others, they may be carrying a bit of a worm load.   Everyone
> begins to sparkle after a deworming.  Right now, Solon is the most
> susceptible as he is the youngest.  He hasn't quite developed an
> immunity to worms yet.
>
> Wanda
>

I have wormed every 6-8 weeks since Gallant Boy came in october, but
every time a different type wormer so maybe he has a worm load of
something I havent wormed for yet!  next on the schedule is
strongid...
Janice

yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
  I have had two other silver bay foals by the same stallion in two
successive years and they were easy to classify as silver bays.

Do you see any traces of black anywhere on his lower legs?  I can't see it
in the picture.

>>>  I think the red chocolate term used by Rocky breeders is what
Icelanders call silver bay if I am not mistaken.

I think that's what it's supposed to be, but locally, I'm pretty sure some
of the breeders so badly want to see "chocolate" that they call about
anything and everything chocolate or red chocolate.:)  It's kind of
funny, but it's also sad, considering the price that breed has paid for that
"desirable" color.

Can you get a close up of the mane and tail?  Do you remember the pics of my
Tifa born last year?   I was certain she was "plain" bay, but she's
maintained some cream on her lower legs, with a good smattering of cream and
white in her mane and tail.  She most certainly isn't a typical bay, and
since her dad is s/d, I assume she is.   Even at birth, I could see traces
of black at her hocks and pasterns - but she never looked chestnut at all.
I guess I could have her tested, but she is what she is and she's a nice
filly whatever the color.  If I ever decide to breed her, I'll have her
tested for s/d, so we can start monitoring the incidence of ASD in our
breed, if it occurs.

 His mane does have a funny darker greyish cast to it so it is possible.

I'd like to see pics if you can get them.  Personally, I'm rooting for him
to be that very pretty chestnut of the mom.  I think it's a little sad that
the very pretty (but "normal") colors aren't more prevalent in this breed.
I don't see that many "plain old chestnuts" and to me, nothing is prettier
than a nice chestnut or red bay.  :)


Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/10/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Janice have you ever considered moving to Canada?  We do not have bugs
> the size of cats...
>
> Wanda
>

hmmm  letseee,  bugs the size of cats versus ice cubes in water
troughs the size of boulders, or leseee, bugs the size of cats versus
icecycles growing six inches off your nose hairs, h, what do I
choose what to choose
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?

2007-05-10 Thread IceDog
> I think this colt will be more of a wait and see fellow.
> His mane does have a funny darker greyish cast to it so it is
> possible.

He does look chestnut in this photo.

Cute boy!

Cheryl

ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm
Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
website: www.toltallyice.com


Re: [IceHorses] Nasi color update

2007-05-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/05/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nasi's color seems a little different this spring, somewhat lighter,
> points very black, but he seems to be shedding very slowly for some
> reason?!  Anyone know why that would be?

Janice, I find that if one or two of my horses are shedding slower
than the others, they may be carrying a bit of a worm load.   Everyone
begins to sparkle after a deworming.  Right now, Solon is the most
susceptible as he is the youngest.  He hasn't quite developed an
immunity to worms yet.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 10/05/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Are there snakes besides
> > rattlesnakes that get this fat??
>
> I've seen black snakes easily that wide across and they are nice to
> have around - definitely keep the rodent population down

About 300 miles south of us near Regina Saskatchewan, a farmer found
an 87 pound rattlesnake.  I'll probably never go to Regina again :).

Our mosquitoes have hatched and the wind came up and blew them all
away.  So therenow we've settled into spring.

Janice have you ever considered moving to Canada?  We do not have bugs
the size of cats...

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Laree Shulman
  Are there snakes besides
> rattlesnakes that get this fat??

I've seen black snakes easily that wide across and they are nice to
have around - definitely keep the rodent population down

-- 
Laree


RE: [IceHorses] yiiii!

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
 SHOULD I WORRY??  I came home to find this track in my driveway.

Now Janice...are you conspiring with Judy again to spring another PhotoShop
pic on us...this time of Janice riding the dread Florida Snake...?  :)

Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







[IceHorses] Re: clipping! No sweat...yay! [IH-7132]

2007-05-10 Thread Barbara Sollner-Webb
>  "wcobpony" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...it was hot again so I thought what the heck! I only clipped her  
> front end
> and tummy, plus ( I hate to admit it and I am sure I will get  
> strung up
> for this!!) I took half the underside of her mane off. She was SO hot
> under her mane even just standing still she was sweating there.
>
> Well it was AMAZING... today I went for a ride and it was hot and  
> she did not
> even break a sweat even going for a short gallop and climbing a  
> steep hill!
>
> Zoe and Emmy in BC

congratulations!
clipping does make such a difference!   your horse surely thanks  
you greatly for it!
now that summer is coming, many horses would love to be similarly  
clipped; mine are going to be this weekend.
and yes, clipping off the bottom half of the mane AND the bottom  
half of the forelock does help a great deal with keeping them cooler  
in the summer.
and even though mine get clipped, i still wet down their chests  
before and during rides, to better help them cool down.  as you say,  
it lets them work without sweating and panting, which they would  
otherwise be doing.
happy tolting.
yours,  barbara in maryland




Re: [IceHorses] Clipping! No sweat...yay!

2007-05-10 Thread Lorraine Voog
> Well Emmy must have been clipped before as she
stood> 
> Well it was AMAZING... today I went for a ride and
> it was hot and she 
> did not even break a sweat even going for a short
> gallop and climbing a 
> steep hill! 
> 
> Zoe and Emmy in BC
> 

Very good.  It took time for Scooter to get used to
the hotter weather.  Clipping really helped.  I just
ordered the Mars King.  I think that,s it.  He is
shedding big time.

 Happy Southwestern Trails


 

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Re: [IceHorses] Florida and Bugs

2007-05-10 Thread Janice McDonald
I gotta print this out!!  Its gonna be a huge office hit!
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?

2007-05-10 Thread Karen Thomas
 Looks like a bay too!


Bay?  A bay would have a black mane and tail, right?   His look red to me.
I don't see any traces of black along his lower legs anywhere either.

He looks beautiful, Denise.   Get some sleep!

Karen Thomas, NC


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