Re: [IceHorses] Curious Foal...
Wanda Lauscher wrote: I thought this was a neat pic.. http://www.bushfarms.com/images/EileensFoal9.jpg What a striking photo...dancing with chickens! Trish
RE: [IceHorses] Curious Foal...
What a striking photo...dancing with chickens! I'm sure that a Janice Chicken Parable will follow... :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/851 - Release Date: 6/16/2007 12:50 PM
[IceHorses] File - Editing, Responding to the List
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[IceHorses] E-mail blocking - OT, and sorry for the private subject
I got a private e-mail from a woman in the Midwest last week inquiring about my horses. I tried to reply, but her e-mail server has returned my responses from every e-mail address I tried to send from. If you have contacted me and haven't heard back, please e-mail me again with an alternate way to contact you. Apologies to the list, but I couldn't think of another way to get up with her... Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/851 - Release Date: 6/16/2007 12:50 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Curious Foal...
Oh yes, Karen. Come on Janice.He who dances with chickens has a fowl roost? He who dances with chickens, lies down with ... hhhmmm Come on Janice, there's a life lesson here somewhere. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: saddle history
I forgot to mention that I think Janice needs one of the plume headdresses. The last time I was in Tibet I tried to find one of the forehead pieces but no luck. ann
Re: husbands and horses, was Re: [IceHorses] Stolen Icelandic
On 6/14/07, Robyn Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my husband is color-coordinated to match the dog and the ponykins. makes them seem more like a set, and a pity to break it up ;) ? ? ? Does he have red hair? Robyn no, he wears black tack :) haha janice-- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] horse shopping PSA
A Janice Public Service Announcement: Its really terrible if someone sells a horse with problems and represents it as perfectly happy and sound with no probs. But then sometimes I think innocent novice sorta buyers are taken in when someone says a horse has had some terrible problems and they are all completely cured. What prompts me to write this--- my friends whose horses were snakebit and died are horse shopping and I am this very moment trying to save them but they are so guillible I dont know if I can help. I am in a race against time to try and find them good horses before they succomb to their grief and yearning for a new horse and purchase a horse someone I know is trying to sell them. She has a registered AQHA mare that I know someone who bought it and returned it because if it ever broke faster than a canter it had a hip problem and couldnt go. So my friends have an autistic daughter and her horse is the only one that survived the snake attack and this girl, like most autistics have something they just unbelievably excell in, is am amazing rider and loves to go fast so they are a sorta galloping type family. But anyway i told them this horse has hip probs, they asked and the seller said oh she did but it went away. of course it went away, she has been standing in a roundpen with four other horses for 2 years and hasnt even gotten up to a dogwalk for more than thirty feet in all that time. I am just posting this as a sorta buyer beware for the gullible. if you know any gullible buyers please help them. it is a buyers market now,. buyers get to pick and choose from wonderful horses. So please browse carefully. For one thing, a horse that has problems that went away is gonna be stressed by moving to a new home, no matter if its an improvement, a wonderful home etc. Its just stressful on them to move! and then probs often return. Also, gaited horses--- they can gait wonderfully because they have sore feet. did you know that?? Walking horse breeders/sellers founder horses on purpose so it will appear that they are wonderfully gaited barefoot. there are ways to tell. If you are horse shopping take someone with you or show a video to someone who really knows horses. This is just my horse shopping PSA. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] lots o' gaits, i expect :) - why I like to see head nod
On 6/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you think of the more lateral gaits? he generally becomes more evenly four-beat if i turn him or half-halt when i feel him becoming more lateral (i feel it in my seatbones or hear it in his footfalls; i shall have to look for it in his head now :) are they a part of the best repertoire for a horse who does them naturally, or is it something that should be discouraged under saddle for some reason? my stonewall, wonderful racker, will be going really really fast and I will hear his feet lose even beat even before i feel it in the saddle, and I take the little finger of one hand and with a subtle, barest of pressure I make a steady pul with just that little finger and its like it is a ribbon tied to his feet, he smooths right out. Its really interesting and thrilling to me when it happens, knowing what subtle pressures are associated with gait... janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what age to drive a cart
Good suggestion about ground driving though...I should start training Solon to do that.. Wanda yes and lets not forget the all important walking up the mobile home steps so critical in any young icelandics training schedule. pronounced that the way prince charles does shedd-yool janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] what age to drive a cart
i know they are different... but I talked to a man that breeds mini donkeys. And he said just as soon as they are weaned he gets them ground driving with a halter and no bit of course all over the yard. Then he puts it away so to speak til they are grown. Altho its donkeys i think thats a good plan for horses, one i practice, not driving, (yet :) but doing elementary horse stuff when they are very young. Trailer loading while it is still fun, obstacles, something they can do while small and curious and unafraid of anything, wear a saddle, I have even had saddle and sidepull on nasi and he is only three. He walks around in his saddle and doesnt even flinch when he sees it coming. Of course it is a real lite treeless. And I put the sidepull on him with no reins a couple of times, then one time I had him do a flex with reins and he acted like how interesting. So much better than keeping a horse out in a 40 acre field til grown and then terrifying them by breaking them to ride in a day or two through harsh cruel cowboy methods! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandics For Sale
http://iceryder.net/roka.html Speaking of Roka...here are some new pics. She'll be one year old on June 20th!How time flies! http://picasaweb.google.com/SeahorseCherie/Roka607 roka is a cutie patootie! and a reasonably priced yearling for what you get! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] New address corection (alzheimr's???)
Hello everyone: I sent a notification of our new official address to all the contacts in my computer yesterday and was told by my husband that I had made a terrible mistake before I even was fully awake this morning. Oh yes, I did make a mistake by adding an extra 4 into our new zip code. Is it dementia approaching? I hope not not; but we'll soon know. Anyhow, here is the corrected mailing address: Olaf and Anneliese Virro P.O. Box 231 Hustonville, Kentucky 40437 U.S.A. All the best, Anneliese (our Evanston address will soon become obsolete) but we are still residing at the address below, only the mail box at the road is not secure. -- Anneliese Virro UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS 1800 Carter School Road Stanford, Kentucky 40484 606-346-4963 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] O/T Black Dogs
Here's a pic of a black dog that looks like he could use a good home. http://3113.com/cute_pet_costumes/hippie_dog.jpg It's pouring rain here so I'm stuck in the house at the computeryou can probably expect more of this. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Fwd: saddle history
On 6/16/07, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention that I think Janice needs one of the plume headdresses. The last time I was in Tibet I tried to find one of the forehead pieces but no luck. ann oh my gosh I MUST have one i MUST. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: husbands and horses
my husband is color-coordinated to match the dog and the ponykins. makes them seem more like a set, and a pity to break it up ;) ? ? ? Does he have red hair? no, he wears black tack :) haha hee! actually he was Terribly Goth when we met; our first conversation (that we both remember) was about nail polish. now he's a hippie like me, we just painted his room and he has one wall purple and the others white and gold. :) --vicka, bad influence
Re: [IceHorses] O/T Black Dogs
On 6/17/07 1:01 PM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a pic of a black dog that looks like he could use a good home. http://3113.com/cute_pet_costumes/hippie_dog.jpg It's pouring rain here so I'm stuck in the house at the computeryou can probably expect more of this. Wanda Hey Wanda: That's a cute picture but while you have nothing better to do - could you concentrate your mental energy on sending us some of your rain? We have had less than one inch during the last 6 weeks. Our grass is turning brown and if I want any vegetables from the garden I have to water every day. And it is too darn hot to ride. Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Inquiring minds want to know....
They are just plain gorgeous and kissable...is that a color? Trish ;-)
Re: [IceHorses] New address corection (alzheimr's???)
Anneliese, I am going to delete this post from the archives as it includes all of your friends and relatives private email addresses, which exposes them to spammers who spider YG specifically for these types of situations. To everyone, please do not send messages to the list with multiple cc's (and that includes other lists). Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Inquiring minds want to know....
They are just plain gorgeous and kissable...is that a color? I think that's the color all my horses are. :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Black puppies for adoption - OT
Timely, hopefully...my good friend just picked up three stray puppies, probably about 2 1/2 - 3 months old. There are two black ones, and a yellow one, mixed breed, flop ears (as opposed to erect ears) and would appear to be somewhat bird-dog-ish, a good chance part lab or golden - she said the yellow/golden one is awfully soft. She just got picked them up and had to run pick up her son from his grandparents, but if anyone in the general NC area would be interested in one, I'll be happy to go get pictures. She says they are friendly and seem excited to see people. Her first impression is that they will be on the small side for labs, but I'm sure we'll be able to guess better later. The yellow one and one of the black ones is a male and the other black one is female. They were dumped beside the road, and the yellow one has an injured leg or paw - but not seriously apparently. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] New address corection (alzheimr's???)
On 6/17/07 1:50 PM, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anneliese, I am going to delete this post from the archives as it includes all of your friends and relatives private email addresses, which exposes them to spammers who spider YG specifically for these types of situations. To everyone, please do not send messages to the list with multiple cc's (and that includes other lists). Thanks! Judy: I appreciate it; thank you so much! It was accidental - I meant to delete non-personal addresses. -- Anneliese
Re: [IceHorses] Bits and Leverage
I think probably some of Scooter's training was missed. It should not take a bit to stop a horse. What do you suggest Judy? By the way. My Dagur is coming in a couple of weeks. I watched a video of him. He looks great. Lorraine Happy Trails from Lori Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: [IceHorses] Dogs and Dagur
On 17/06/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Dagur a common name for Icelandics? That is my new horse's name. Unless I change it of course. I usually do. Lorraine I'm not aware that it was common. In fact I'd never seen it before Cara decided to call him that. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Dogs and Dagur
Is Dagur a common name for Icelandics? That is my new horse's name. Unless I change it of course. I usually do. Lorraine Hey Lori, who did you decide to go w/ for shipping? I'm glad you found someone who will work out for you. Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] Janice too? Happy B'Day
--- Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy birthday to Janice and Judy ! Cherie Me too. A couple of weeks ago. Happy Birthday. Happy Trails from Lori Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222
Re: [IceHorses] Dogs and Dagur
Then Cara and I went out to 'scare Dagur' Is Dagur a common name for Icelandics? That is my new horse's name. Unless I change it of course. I usually do. Lorraine Happy Trails from Lori Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [IceHorses] Bits and Leverage
On 17/06/07, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think probably some of Scooter's training was missed. It should not take a bit to stop a horse. What do you suggest Judy? That's a qood question. This isn't just a question for you Lori, but for anyone that's found themselves in this situation. You've purchased a horse and you begin to find areas where extra training is needed. What have others done that have found themselves in this situation? Personally, I took lessons on Hreggur from a local trainer. It made a world of difference to both of us. He was 22 years old and didn't know anything about yielding to my leg... Anyway The main thing is to stay safe. I know a woman who had a horse that had a rough start...rough training. He had learned in his early days that when in doubtGO...and when he was confused he would do the thing he knew best and would take off... She finally resorted to using a Myler combination bit when she took him out on the trail. He gradually learned that stop means stop and she has switched back to a regular Myler. But she spent hours and hours in the ring with him. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Bits and Leverage
When I buy a new horse whose training is different from what I would expect in a mature horse, I just go back to the beginning and start over. Remembering, of course, that I am now in my mid-sixties and wouldn't have bought an outlaw in the first place. Occassionally I get in trouble. Hunter, my TWH, is primarily an endurance horse, but he certainly could use some work in the arena. One winter day when it was icey on the trails, I friend and I decided to work in the arena instead. I asked Hunter to step over a cavaletti made from PVC pipe. That was my first mistake. A cavaletti should be heavy enough that when bumped, it doesn't move freely. Hunter dropped his head, took a good look, stepped bravely over, touched the cavaletti with the back of a front foot, whereupon it rolled backward into his rear feet. He leapt straight up and spun, still tangled in the cavaletti, then (now facing in the opposite direction) did two huge leaping bucks. He might have kept going, but at that point I had becone airborne. Helpful hint to younger riders: if you're 65, you should not land hard on frozen sand. Dumb DUMB mistake - sorry Hunter. It was weeks before he stopped freaking out every time he bumped a twig or branch on trail. Nancy
[IceHorses] gas colic
Stella (24yo, Cushings) has an episode of gas colic this weekend. I have never seen colic before and it was terrifying. I had just given her some banamine powder mixed with rice bran for her laminitis and within 5 minutes she was rolling getting up rolling some more, trotting, rolling with some times of laying on her side ,legs straight out and lips curled back and eyes wide. I was so scared, ran up to the house, called the vet and went back to Stella. I started doing the belly lifts I learned at the TEAM training. She would lay down at times and when I could get her up I would start in again. The vet arrived quickly about 45 minutes later. By then it was over, she was down and resting but no spasms. I told the vet I had done the belly lifts and asked it he was familiar with them. He said yes and that usually when people did them, the colic was over by the time he arrived. This type of colic is scary but usually has a good outcome. I read later that it may be associated with too easily digestible food so maybe was the 3/4 cup of rice bran. I will use the tube rather than the banamine powder and luckily as this laminitis seems to ebb and increase, it is ebbing and I have cut the dose in 1/2. All I can say is thank you to Robyn and the gang at the Icefarm for teaching me this technique. it not only helped Stella but gave me someting useful to do while this was happening. She is feeling just fine now, for a Cushings horse with laminitis that is. Ann
[IceHorses] help with bug bites
Hi all, I have a problem with one of my horses being very sensitive to the bites from different insects here... I'm in North carolina. Does anyone have this problem? My mare is very sensitive and gets welts from just about anything. I have been giving her a shot every 2 months which does work but I am wondering if anyone has success with summer sheets ? Do they actually keep biting bugs away or are they just to protect from the sun?...
Re: [IceHorses] horse shopping PSA
recommend a complete vet check. raven
[IceHorses] Boring trail pictures
Here are a few pictures of the trails on our property. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.3occoojfx=0y=-jczw3 I've sent similar in before, but I thought the light was better today than usual. This is just one trail - we can ride for about 1.5-2 hours from our property if we do all the loops. It's not a lot of trails, but they are nice and quiet, a good place to start young horses...and mostly we don't have to load up tack and horses beforehand. My hip has been bugging me for a few weeks. I rode more yesterday than I have in a few weeks, so I didn't ride long today. I finished up by hand-walking Melnir part of the way. He's fun to take out - wasn't it Bill Dorrence that said that it should feel like you're taking the lead line for a walk, that the horse should be so light? Melnir certainly is. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Boring trail pictures
It's so very beautiful there Karen - I can't remember where you live. Is the surface of that trail as wonderful as it looks? I can hardly wait until at least one of our Icelalndics is old enough to start. Well, actually, Tosca is four, but we're still working from the ground. I've done just about everything there is to do except get on. I was sort of hoping I could get a soft-handed youngster to do the first couple of rides. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Bits and Leverage
Remembering, of course, that I am now in my mid-sixties and wouldn't have bought an outlaw in the first place. What is an outlaw? Happy Trails from Lori Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] lots o' gaits, i expect :) - why I like to see head nod
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 07:00:46AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: my stonewall, wonderful racker, will be going really really fast and I will hear his feet lose even beat even before i feel it in the saddle, and I take the little finger of one hand and with a subtle, barest of pressure I make a steady pul with just that little finger and its like it is a ribbon tied to his feet, he smooths right out. Its really interesting and thrilling to me when it happens, knowing what subtle pressures are associated with gait... stjarni can keep up a completely lateral pace with tremendous evenness -- when he is doing a two-beat gait sometimes i actually have to look down to figure out if it is a jog or a slow smooth pace. (his fast trot is otoh quite unmistakeable, as is his fast i-guess-flying pace) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Dogs and Dagur
Hey Lori, who did you decide to go w/ for shipping? I'm glad you found someone who will work out for you. Robyn AAA Horse Hauler. Very reputable around WA. Happy Trails from Lori Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [IceHorses] Boring trail pictures
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a few pictures of the trails on our property. Not boring. Looks like KY. Just came back from there. Very green and beautiful. Happy Trails from Lori Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [IceHorses] Inquiring minds want to know....
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:35:31PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: Melnir's eyelashes... So...are they white, or are they taupe? This is an important detail I need to get worked out... i'd have to go with silver :) --vicka
RE: [IceHorses] gas colic
She is feeling just fine now, for a Cushings horse with laminitis that is. I'm glad she's better. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Reiki
I just wanted to share my news. Today, I become a Level 2 Reiki Practitioner. In early spring I become a Level 1 Healing Touch for Animal Practitioner. I'm excited about this! Can't wait to use my new skills and tools. Bright light sent to ALL ! Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chick, the Barn Goddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] Video of Andi learning to come to the mounting block
Here is a video with me standing on the mounting block and having Andi come up beside me. I havn't actually put my leg over him yet. I have just laid across his back on my belly. Andi will do anything for the clicker! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96qzX5SSQ4U Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
