Re: [IceHorses] Foxes

2007-09-08 Thread susan cooper

--- Nancy  Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I went out for a climbing conditioning ride with
grandson Gabriel this morning and we saw two different
foxes. <<

I caught a glimps of a fox the other day, myself. 
Only the second one in 7 years here I have seen. They
are pretty shy around here. These are some kind of
small desert fox, don't know exactly what they are called.

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[IceHorses] Foxes

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
I went out for a climbing conditioning ride with grandson Gabriel this
morning and we saw two different foxes.  They were not particularly wary and
just moved off the trail a few feet then looked back over their shoulders at
us.  The fox population seems to be on the upswing.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] Microchip Implants

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh great - and I had my much-loved young dog microchipped.

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] Gaited Appy / IL

2007-09-08 Thread Robyn Schulze
On 9/8/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A boy named Sioux:
>
> http://crosswindseqresq.org/sioux.html
>
> What gait:  http://crosswindseqresq.org/photos/sioux/siouxhires.wmv

Wow! Hard to believe that he's a "rescue"!  Nice little horse. I'd say
a stepping pace, not a RW. With a better rider, the canter would be
nicer, and the back up would come more quickly.

Robyn S


[IceHorses] Microchip Implants

2007-09-08 Thread Judy Ryder
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120


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[IceHorses] Sugarcreek Sales Report

2007-09-08 Thread Judy Ryder
By Tiffany:

  Sugarcreek Sale Report...

  We arrived at 9:45AM to begin evaling horses and the
barn aready had 
  quite a few horses. There were lots of really VERY
nice horses, so 
  it made our task that much harder. I was surprised
to see lots of 
  drafts for this time of year. Mostly Belgian and
Perchies and a few 
  draft crosses. Lots of gaited horses, including a
2yo double 
  registered TWH/SSH mare. She was very cute and was
advertised as 
  started. Super quite, poor baby. A few TBs and some
Stbs. There 
  were even some Mustangs - arugh, they were titled.
Lots of 
  palomino's, quite a few paints and quarter horses.
Nine camp 
  horses. There was an abundance of appys and POAs.
And sadly, quite 
  a few weanlings, yearlings, and long yearlings. We
had our yes 
  column, and once the (supposed to be) one (ended up
being two) that 
  was coming home with us was bought, we left so we
didn't stay for 
  the whole auction. Here's a summary price list (we
missed some of 
  them)...

  Number - horse, shape $$$
  327 - palomino, fit 185
  328 - long ears, fit 150
  329 - bay, fat 375
  330 - 200
  331 - 260
  332 - maybe 10ish grey w/ blanket app mare, fit,
skiddish but nicely 
  put together 350
  333 - young stunning leopard app gelding, built like
a TB, had a 
  slight unknown swelling on hind, lanky/thin, 125
  335 - red roan QH?, 275
  340 - 8 yo stocky chocolate dapple pony - Rocky
Mountain Horse? 
  Needs farrier work, EASY keeper
  345 - knee issues, Stb
  347 - leg issues, Stb
  348 - nice POA mare w/ liver spots, stocky but had a
cough $?
  349 - nice short stocky 6yo paint mare, built like a
tank, 450
  350 - lovely little cremello-ish POA
  384 - we called this belgian House - BIG BOY - 550
  383 - 375
  385 - 450
  386 - 410
  387 - lame, 350
  389 - 400
  373 - wounded Belgian, 275
  375 - 5yo gelding QH?, fat
  377 - WOWZA App mare, clean legs, tall, red
roan/varnish markings, 
  built like a TB, super fit
  390 - 9yo white faced QH/Paint? mare, sound
  393 - thin baby stallion
  401 - sorrel gelding, fat 450
  402 - black gelding TB?, thin, 60
  403 - riding horse, 560
  404 - 6yo morgan cross gelding, fit 330
  405 - 10yo grey TB broodmare - stunning and alert,
clean legs, baby 
  last year, didn't retake on breeding, araby head,
fit
  406 - 425
  407 - 410
  408 - 10yo nice spotted draft (painty), clean legs,
fat, 510
  409 - TB, lanky, 250
  410 - TB, lanky but tall gelding, 325
  411 - TB, lanky, 275
  413 - 435
  414 - 360
  416 - stud, thin, 60
  417 - 2yo double registered TWH/SSH mare, eyes were
blue/grey and 
  she may have had corneal ulcers or juvenile
cataracts, started, 
  sound, papers included, 185
  419 - TWH
  422 - 7yo sorrel QH mare with papers, fit 650
  423 - 14yo sweet sorrel QH gelding
  424 - 12-14yo bay TWH mare, super fat, 450
  426 - 4yo young sorrel paint mare, riden, fat
  427 - 14yo paint mare
  428 - 5yo bay roan gelding, fit, 375
  429 - 14yo grey fleabitten QH gelding, fat, sound,
riden
  430 - 14yo mare riden, fit, 225
  431 - 20+ Stb gelding, 230
  432 - 7yo Stb gelding ride/drive, thin
  433 - Stb sweet mare, lame, thin
  434 - 14yo sorrel gelding, tad aggressive
  435 - 8yo gaited mare, cute, cute, laminitis rings,
sore on her 
  fronts, but not in founder stance and not 'off'
  436 - cute black gaited 3yo mare, not friendly, told
she kicks, but 
  she never attempted to with me, thin, 210
  438 - friendly 17yo papered QH stud, bloodlines out
the wazoo, thin, 
  110
  439 - QH colt, 60
  440 - 7yo sorrel gelding, 235
  441 - youngish belgian or belgian cross, thin, 100
  442 - 425
  443 - 385
  444 - 7yo blk/wht paint mare, riden, 300
  445 - 260
  446 - 485
  447 - lame? 15yo paint gelding, 160
  448 - 185
  449 - 7yo gelding, broke, chews wood, 275
  451 - black mare w/ lots of chrome white face,1 blue
eye, JR brand, 
  sound w/ papers, 585
  452 - 200
  459 - looked Andalusian, flighty/scared/sensitive,
didn't get a good 
  eval of her, found out she was a titled mustang, 225
  460 - mustang, fat, 210
  461 - 2yo broke to ride, fit 250
  465 - 12yo palomino gelding, broke, sound, 585
  467 - lame (but oh so sweet) Stb, thin
  469 - 14 - 18 month sorrel, 60
  478 - 8yo reg 1/2 arab sorrel cross, big stocky
mare, injured hind 
  left, effects hock
  484 - 5yo reg QH with papers, 335
  497 - camp horse, 275
  498 - camp horse, 310
  481 - baby, 80
  518 - 5yo paint gelding, sound, fit, no saled at
$600
  519 - 9yo mare, fit, 460
  520 - 3yo buckskin mare, told she was broke, sound,
cute, 150
  521 - 8yo mare sound, riden, 450
  522 - 2yo paint mare
  524 - long yearling, big baby, sorrel colt, 20
  525 - 10yo grey mare TBx, sound, sweet, 100
  526 - lame sorrel 
  539 - stocky palomino gelding, was stallion until
last year, unknown 
  age, fat
  933 - sweet jenny, nice, fat

  There were many more lined up to run through, but we
had two and 
  couldn't take any more. Lots of donkeys and minis
(donks and horse) 
  too. An exhausting day, but at lea

Re: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Robyn Schulze
> I would've thought that coyotes wouldn't bother dogs -- aren't they
> similar lineage somewhere down the line?

Yes, but they will definitely pick off a dog or cat, no problem. I
wouldn't even let a bigger dog out, but then, both of ours stay in a
yard and come in at night mostly b/c I've had problems w/ neighbor
dogs bothering my animals, and I don't want mine to be a nuisance too.
 But I won't take the chance on coyotes.
 I once watched a coyote (a very hungry female, apparently) go after
the neighbor's dogs, at about 4:30 in the afternoon in the summer. The
people were gone, left their dogs out loose--2 med sized and 2 small
ones. The coyote would chase the dogs up to the house, where the dogs
were more comfortable, at which point they would turn and chase the
coyote away to the edge of their safely zone. Then THEY would turn
around and run back towards the house, w/ the coyote chasing THEM.
This went on for about 45 min., and the coyote almost caught one of
the little ones a couple times.

Robyn S


Re: [IceHorses] Anniversaries

2007-09-08 Thread Anneliese Virro



On 9/4/07 12:41 PM, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Congratulations for everyone with an upcoming anniversary!
> 
> Thirty-two years is wonderful!
> 
> We've had seven years of marital bliss seven out of 30 is not bad!
> 
> Just kidding!
> 
> We're at thirty years... that's a long time!

For us it will be 41 years on September 24. I cannot believe it's been that
long and where did all the time go? Looking back, I can say that just about
all of it was good!

Anneliese




Re: [IceHorses] Gaited Appy / IL

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
What a sweet horse.  I really hate it when horses start bouncing like that.
Too bad he's so far away.  Our adult daughter would love to have a
pony-sized mount.  She's quite small and prefers ponies.  I have to get her
up on Tosca.  She's going to love her.

Nancy



[IceHorses] Gaited Appy / IL

2007-09-08 Thread Judy Ryder
A boy named Sioux:

http://crosswindseqresq.org/sioux.html

What gait:  http://crosswindseqresq.org/photos/sioux/siouxhires.wmv


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] Riding Styles

2007-09-08 Thread Judy Ryder

> Yes, there are lots of riding styles, but the majority of US riding style 
> is western.


By Joan:

I showed western pleasure for two years after many years of dressage.

It taught me to hold myself up; and let the horse hold their frame by 
themselves.

This helped me become a better rider.  Many people are seen holding onto the 
horse's mouth to hold themselves on the horse.  The horse is relying on the 
rider to hold up their front end.

Joan



RE: [IceHorses] a sad thing happened to my old gelding (a bit off topic)

2007-09-08 Thread Karen Thomas
 THANKS EVERYONE for the positive thoughts. I would be a little more
optimistic if he was younger but... well... I am going to think
positively!!!


Thunder was 24 when he had his horrible spider bite and he came out
unscathed.  It was a miracle.


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Re: [IceHorses] a sad thing happened to my old gelding (a bit off topic)

2007-09-08 Thread Bia
>
> Oh, Bia, I'm so sorry!  I hope he's better soon.  Do you remember the
> horrible wound that our Arab had back in 2004?  >
>
> Karen Thomas

Thanks Karen... yep, I remember that. I will keep my thoughts positive so 
that maybe I will at least be able to get on him for an hour in the flat 
pasture for some exercize. he is a real trooper...
Bia 




Re: [IceHorses] a sad thing happened to my old gelding (a bit off topic)

2007-09-08 Thread Bia
> Poor baby...the hopeful thing is, large muscle wounds, even when deep
> often heal pretty well. Let's hope that happens with your gelding.
>
> Cherie

Cherie... I am noticing today that he is walking a bit better. he was almost 
unable to walk 2 days ago. I gave him some bute that night to ease his 
pain...The vet doesn't want me to give him any bute because he wants me to 
be able to see the improvement so so far that's the only night I've given it 
to him... The wound looks terrible but it's draining and that's what I 
want...so... hopefully enough of the muscle is left to, like you say, heal 
properly. he lost alot of it! Amazing yes, what they can do and leave no 
trace or clues of what might have happened.






Re: [IceHorses] a sad thing happened to my old gelding (a bit off topic)

2007-09-08 Thread Bia
> Think positive, Bia!
>
> We will all visualize that he is walking good, feels good, heals properly,
> and loves to be ridden.
> Judy

THANKS EVERYONE for the positive thoughts. I would be a little more 
optimistic if he was younger but... well... I am going to think 
positively!!! 




Re: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 08/09/2007, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But when we lived in Edmonton I am pretty sure we lost a
> little dog to coyotes, can't be certain but that is what we think happened.
> In our case it wasn't that they came very close to the house, it was when
> the dogs were out in pastures beyond that was more of a problem.

Yes, Jenni was definitely out of the range of the yard when we heard
the trouble yesterday.

There was one time last year I was out feeding in the half darkness
and I heard coyotes barking and yipping up near the house.  Marty was
with me, and he hesitated and then looked back at me and decided to
stay with me.  I know they were right near the house because the
sensor light came on.  They were probably checking Marty's dish for
food.  When we got back to the house there were tracks everywhere, but
they had managed to slip away without me every seeing them.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Karen
>>>Oh no, I was trying to be nonchalant about this, but you guys are giving
me chills

I would just be sure to watch, especially your little dogs,  we have lots of
coyotes around here and while two of our dogs, Shadow and Shawnee who I
think you met, used to actually play with the coyotes.  I saw it when we
were riding.  But when we lived in Edmonton I am pretty sure we lost a
little dog to coyotes, can't be certain but that is what we think happened.
In our case it wasn't that they came very close to the house, it was when
the dogs were out in pastures beyond that was more of a problem.

Robyn

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[IceHorses] Belly Lift with CT

2007-09-08 Thread Judy Ryder
>From the ClickRyder list, one of the gals is combining CT and the belly lift 
to see if she can get the horse on cue to tighten her own abs.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l3CYr7UOOg


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Re: [IceHorses] Differences -- Janice

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
I'm staying out of this, having experienced only the one TWH, but here's
Hunter's grandsire:  http://www.walkerswest.com/Champs/PridesGenerator.htm

Oregon endurance types who ride TWH's  like ranch-bred horses from Canada
amd Montana for trail horses and suggest staying away from the show-bred
horses.

Hunter is not spooky at all, but has enough energy for several horses his
size.  He's just sort of a goofy horse who keeps me swinging between
annoyance and appreciation.  I drive up the road a mile at 5:00 am to give
him a supplemental morning feed.  This morning he was just zooming around
his pen in the dark, eyes wide.

He'll be out at pasture when I go back to ride him later - pray he has
settled down.

Nancy




Re: [IceHorses] Differences -- Janice

2007-09-08 Thread Janice McDonald
there are breed generalities, but just in my relatively tiny herd each
horse, even of the same breeds, are so incredibly different one to the
other.  In my large rides tho I have developed generalizations over
the years,   but any time I mention them on these lists so many come
swarming out with "but i had one of those and it was the calmest horse
on earth!"  but generally, paso finos and peruvians to me ACT so hot
it would make me nervous personally to ride one.  The ones I have seen
that were well trained were hot, squirrelly, exactly like arabians I
think!  I personally believe, and have seen, and it has been my
experience, that "modern" bloodline walking horses are not good trail
horses, they are too hot and goey for me.  Old foundation walking
horses are the best.  Some people think by old I mean ebony
masterpiece but I mean old OLD like handshaker, mack K, Dement,
mcCurdy.  Gosh I only have two icelandics and they are as different as
nite from day, but one isnt under saddle and it has also been my
experience that you NEVER know from the ground how a horse is gonna
turn out under saddle  he can be a lazy potatoe on the ground and
a hot wire under saddle...
janice--
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[IceHorses] a sad thing happened to my gelding

2007-09-08 Thread Docnshop2
Hang in there Bia.  A similar thing happened to my first prize  pregnant mare 
soon after I bought here.  I went out to the pasture to check  on the horses 
and she came up with a huge puncture wound in her chest.   Luckily it went 
down toward the shoulder instead of through the thoracic  cavity.  It did chip 
the bone in her shoulder.  She was lame with a  gaping hole for awhile.  She is 
fine now.
 
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Re: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
We've always had a mix of dogs from big to tiny  and coyotes very close to
the house and have not lost a dog.  However, there are certainly anecdotal
tales of coyotes picking off small household pets.

We know for sure that no one in our area is able to keep cats outdoors.
They all disappear.  We have two cats that have never set foot out a door.
I know they are missing a lot of cat fun, but they are both alive.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/8/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> He's so gregarious, he'd probably
> just want to make friends with the coyote...


I would've thought that coyotes wouldn't bother dogs -- aren't they
similar lineage somewhere down the line?
V


Re: [IceHorses] Hawaii foals

2007-09-08 Thread Nancy Sturm
They have such sweet faces.

Nancy


RE: [IceHorses] The coyote enters the Majan Empire

2007-09-08 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I'm glad you only let them out when you're out with them. I don't know
if coyotes have learned to pack-hunt back your way, but they do it here. One
will lure a dog away, and then the others circle back around
and close in on the dog.  Our neighbor in SW Colorado almost lost their dog
to a coyote pack, and their dog was about 50#, so not a small dog.


Oh no, I was trying to be nonchalant about this, but you guys are giving me
chills!


I think I'm going to have to buy that bumper sticker I saw last month, "My
house is dog-broken."  I was making good progress potty training Frank, but
now I'm getting terrified to let him out.  He's so gregarious, he'd probably
just want to make friends with the coyote...


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Re: [IceHorses] hay

2007-09-08 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island

--- Bia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> renee where are you in NC... I'm near durham and would buy 50 bales
> from you 
> if you're close by...
> Bia 




Wow!  50 bales would cost $1,500 here.we get the tripled
compressed short bales over here, plus we get timothy pellets as
well, but its from california..


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